Was the concept of virginity of women important before the abrahamic faiths spread into europe ?
>>960070
You ever hear of the Vestal Virgins?
>>960076
Nope what are they ?
What is Vestal Virgins.
whats the scoop on this old guy
Its nice to hear someone know what they're talking about even as they know nothing about what they're talking about.
Gary Oldman's best role imo
he makes a lot of buddhists buttmad
not really sure why given that he explicitly says "I am not a buddhist" multiple times
given the way he died, is a good example of how anyone can lose their way in life even someone as apparently switched on as him
i started listening to him to relax my nerves
How would Europe look if the central powers had won or fought to a draw, would there have been a second world war, rise of the nazi party and cold war and so on?
>nazi
You mean National Socialist.
They never called themselves "nazi". It's a term coined after the war by the Jews in an attempt to demonize Germany.
>>959263
well, I thought they did as it is "Nationalsozialismus" in german, there for Na-zi, but I may very well be wrong
>>959263
http://www.rarenewspapers.com/view/629454?list_url=%2Flist%3Fq%255Bdate_range_end%255D%3D1945-09-30%2525q%255Bdate_range_start%255D%3D1939-09-01%2525q%255Bquery%255D%3Dnazi%2525q%255Bsearch_method%255D%3DAll%2BWords
>April 6, 1941
Which war was it after?
>refused to fight in WW1 due to pacifism
>when he was too old to fight in WW2 he conveniently decides that some wars could be worth fighting
I would've refused to fight as well but bare lols that his """""""philosophy""""""" couldn't stand one dose of reality. What a load of worthless pseudo intellectual mental masturbation.
>>956382
>says war is ok
>actually fought in a war
Also too cowardly to debate the Eternal Anglo
>>956382
Coward.
>If one goes back to the childhood of nations or if one comes down to our own day, if one looks at societies in every possible stage of development from barbarism to the most advanced civilization, war will always be found.
...
>There is, moreover, good reason for doubting if this violent destruction is in general as great an evil as is believed; at least, it is one of those evils that play a part in an order of things in which everything is violent and against nature and which has its compensations. First, when the human spirit has lost its resilience through indolence, incredulity, and the gangrenous vices that follow an excess of civilization, it can be retempered only in blood. It is far from easy to explain why war produces different effects in different circumstances. What is sufficiently clear is that humanity can be considered as a tree that an invisible hand is continually pruning, often to its benefit. In fact, if its trunk is hacked or if it is pruned badly, a tree can die, but who knows the limits for the human tree? What we do know is that a great deal of bloodshed is often connected with a high population, as has been seen particularly in the ancient Greek republics and in Spain under Arab domination. The platitudes on war mean nothing: no great intelligence is needed to know that the more men killed, the fewer at that moment remain, just as the more branches are cut, the fewer remain on the tree. It is the results of the operation that must be considered. However, to stick to the comparison, the skilled gardener prunes less to ensure growth as such than to ensure the fructification of the tree; he requires fruit, and not wood or leaves from the plant. Now the true fruits of human nature - the arts, sciences, great enterprises, noble ideas, manly virtues - spring above all from the state of war. It is well known that nations reach the apex of the greatness of which they are capable only after long and bloody wars.
Is he right?
>>955989
>It is well known that nations reach the apex of the greatness of which they are capable only after long and bloody wars.
WWI and WWII gave us post-modernism and modern art. He's wrong.
>>956185
also gave us the very internet you typed your shitpost on you humongous hypocrit
>>956202
>Arts are corrupted by the Bourgeoisie
>Great enterprises are corrupted by Globalization
>Noble ideas are corrupted by Political Correctness
>Manly virtues are corrupted by feminism
>Sciences became a dogma, replacing religion or/and any kind of transcendental union
"But atleast w-we've got the internet, right g-guys?"
De Maistre himself would be fucking crying if he was still alive.
How was Latin replaced by Italian in the Italian peninsula?
>>957768
Because Italian is just Latin after a few hundred years.
Language evolves and shit. Especially among the common people. Multiple dialects existed in Italy up until Italian was standardized in the 1800s.
>>957773
>Because
The question is "how", not "why".
As opposed to, say, Semite religions like Christianity?
Also how do you like my new tattoo /his/?
It is an Aryan religion
But if you're not Iranian or North Indian then you're retarded
Indo-Iranian, which I guess makes it Aryan (though that's sort of a silly term to use.)
Zorastrianism is a Iranic religion as is therefore Proto-Indo European (Aryan). It cant be said if it is an evolution of an Aryan Proto-Religion, even if such a religion existed and influenced later ones. If you mean to say, is it a religion of an Aryan peoples, then yes, it is.
Are you personally a Persian though?
>"Wellington was a better general than Napoleon, because he beat him. End of story."
Aren't you forgetting someone else?
>>956538
Blücher was shit. Did nothing of worth against ol' Nappy.
>>956564
Truly, the Eternal Anglo graces us with his presence
How did the discoveries of quantum mechanics change the philosophical conception of metaphysics and ontology?
>>954275
It made metaphilosophy completely irrelevant but philosophers aren't good enough at math to truly comprehend how badly QM bent our fundamental understanding of reality on its head so they persist in their meaningless mind exercises.
>>954275
They didn't from a Nietzschean perspective.
>>954322
Some philosophy is still useful - but only as an adjunct to scientific inquiry. Most useful philosophy of the last few centuries was either inspired by science or dealt with science.
Meanwhile, the most useless and vacuous philosophy (a la French "critical theory" and postmodernism) is a disgrace at a level that is found nowhere in science.
What do you make of antinatalism?
Personally I agree with it, and practice antinatalism (I don't, and wont have children).
Human life is fundamentally bad. We are biological machines who must constantly struggle to maintain bodily homeostasis (of warmth, ph, blood pressure, hydration, blood glucose, etc, etc,), and we must also constantly struggle to maintain our mood, which relies on things like self-esteem, social contact, having things to look forward to, etc, etc.
If we don't maintain all these things within a narrow range, we will suffer. Eventually we will die. Even if we maintain perfectly we will eventually die anyway.
Essentially, life involves a perpetual struggle to avoid suffering. What we are rewarded with, for this struggle is not pleasure but rather a state of "not feeling bad". This soon turns into boredom, which must be struggled against. If you want to experience pleasure you must first struggle to maintain homeostasis, and then work to produce pleasure. Pleasure is not guaranteed in life, only suffering. The amount of suffering in life far outweighs the pleasure. Children cannot consent to being born. Non-existence children are not harmed by not being born. Non-existent children are not suffering, which is a good thing. We should leave them with their non-existence. There's no need to disturb them. The prevention of suffering is a far greater concern than the production of pleasure. For example we should give starving people food rather than entertainment, and people would think you're mad for doing the other way round. This should also apply to our thoughts about having children. It is more important to prevent our children from suffering, than it is to have them experience pleasure. Therefore we should not have children at all, because it prevents EVERY experience of suffering that a child would have. And because the child does not exist, they are not harmed by not experiencing pleasure. Because they can't feel deprivation.
people can suicide if they want so there is no need
>>953457
well that's like saying confining people to concentration camps in ww2 wasn't wrong because they could have suicided if they wanted to
I'm not talking about suicide, I'm talking about STARTING a life.
Is there any nation that resisted more concerted attempts at genocide?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0zBlHlnR4Y
>more than 80%
>gay marriage by popular vote
Paddies are the worst Catholics
Is there any thread that has been posted more times?
>>953012
>DUDE GOD LMAO XD
>DUDE ATHEISTS LMAO XD
Two more threads
Can we get a naval warfare thread going?
What are your favorite historical naval battles?
Favorite historical naval power?
Favorite naval commander(s)?
When do we finally get a quality Horatio Nelson biopic?
Any good, reasonably accurate historical/historical fiction naval films?
>>951892
>Horatio Nelson biopic
The problem with that is any nelson biopic would have to walk a very fine line between wankery and a hit piece.
Take for example on the one hand how he was beloved by his men, a fact supported by contemporary accounts of nelsons general charisma. they call it the nelson touch for a reason. On the other hand he was a bit vainglorious and craved the limelight.
How does a nelson biopic deal with Lady Nelson and Lady Hamilton?
Nelson is a beloved figure in England so how far do you go in examining his record critically with out attacking the man
>>952058
Why does a biopic have to be critical of someone? Just present the facts as they happened at the time, rather than spinning a narrative out of it.
Not sure about films, but John Keegan's The Price of Admiralty is a cracking good read on naval warfare from Napoleonic times to the Second World War.
Favorite battles, probably Coronel and Midway.
One day Eusebius of Caesarea, a Christian historian and polemicist, endevoured to criticize and mock the religion of the Phoenicians in his book praeparatio evangelica.
Keep in mind that, in Eusebius' head, he was disclosing to his readership the most ridiculous and idolatrous beliefs ever contrived. But what does it say exactly?
According to Eusebius, the Phoenicians believed in
>one Elioun, called Hypsistus, (the most high); and his wife named Beruth, and they dwelt about Byblus.
What are you doing Eusebius? For our own holy book says:
>Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High [El-Elyon!], (Genesis 14:18 NIV)
And The Most High had a wife named Beruth? That sounds an awful like the Queen of Heaven... Anyway continuing with the Phoenicians:
>By these [Elioun and Beruth] was begotten Epigeus or Autochthon, whom they afterwards called Ouranus (Heaven)... and Ge (Earth)
Eusebius no! For the inspired word of God says:
>and he blessed Abram, saying, "Blessed be Abram by God Most High, Creator of heaven [Ouranos] and earth [Ge]. (Genesis 14:18 NIV)
Later on we find that the Ouranus had a son named Cronus, and
>the auxiliaries of Ilus, who is Cronus, were called Eloeim
The Elohim! Eusebius! Why?
>>961093
Finally, we discover that
>when there happened a plague with a great mortality, Cronus offered up his only begotten son as a sacrifice to his father Ouranus, and circumcised himself, and compelled his allies to do the same
>offered up his only begotten son as a sacrifice
>Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, whom you love--Isaac--and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you. (Genesis 22:2 NIV)
>circumcised himself, and compelled his allies to do the same
>And every male in Abraham's household, including those born in his household or bought from a foreigner, was circumcised with him. (Genesis 17:27 NIV)
Ouch! Proto-Abraham disclosed as a Phoenician deity.
How does it feel to find out that the great patriarch of Judaism, Christianity and Islam is merely an euhemerized Pagan god?
EUSEBIUS YOU STOOGE! NOW THE GOYIM KNOW! THAT'S WHY YOU WILL NEVER BE A CHURCH FATHER!
Oh Eusebius... Better luck next time! I'm sure you're gonna make it to Church Father one day!
Source on the Phoenician theology:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/af/af01.htm
Do you have sources for this?
>Cold War
>use central planning to get people to the Moon
>build up a spectacular army using the state budget and central planning
>attract brilliant minds and learn make nuclear weapons and nuclear power thanks to central planning
>imply to the rest of the world that this somehow proves how inefficient central planning is, and how free markets are superior
Americans, explain yourselves. How the fuck is generating great innovation and achievements using your form of central planning prove that free markets are better at everything? Most of great innovation (the Internet, nuclear power, tactile screens, etc.) came from the state, not the private sector.
>>960310
>growth of a massive tumour-like military-industrial complex
>poisoning the well of any even slightly leftwing ideas
>inspiring a false sense of invincibility that has led to imperial over-reach
Defeating the USSR without firing a single nuke is an impressive achievement, but the Cold War was a massive waste of resources all round.
>>960348
>waste of resources
Most of modern technology would be impossible without the US (and to extent Soviet) central planning employed during the Cold War.
This ranges from nuclear power and the Internet to LCD displays and your tactile shit gadgets.
>>960310
Central planning is a great way to throw money at technological/scientific projects, but not a great way to sustain societies in the long term.
So, I think I just need a little bit more clarification on the subject:
What is the Holy Spirit supposed to be?
When we pray to one part of the Trinity, do we pray to all parts of it?
Also, not really related but slightly: when is mentioning the name "God" blasphemy? If, I was doing some type of meditative prayer, but was repeating His name over and over again in my mind, would that be multiple accounts of blasphemy? Do I need to attribute the word to something else?
Holy Spirit is divine wisdom
>>960075
It's a ghost, like Casper.
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