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Hey /his/,

There are many people who believe that the Europeans brought "civilization" to the New World. However, numerous complicated ancient civilizations existed before Europeans arrived on the American continents. Civilizations like the Anasazi Indians.
-form your own opinions, mine will be in the post that follows-
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As we recall the various times America has been declared a “New World”, we must ultimately direct our attention towards its true age. In fact, the “New World” is really an “Old World” when we look aforetime during the pre-Columbian cultures. Specifically, looking at North America, a vast assortment of other Natives grew upon the land.

For example, beginning 12,000 to 15,000 years ago (among the Western Hemisphere), Siberians supposedly traveled across the Bearing Strait to reach Alaska in search of large game animals. After finding themselves in the American territory, these nomadic groups dispersed among the land and settled down.

Speeding time up a little bit, a lifestyle of crop cultivation, animal breeding, and the production of archaic weapons was already created and being used throughout the Native Americans when Christopher Columbus and other Europeans showed up. From there, it was only a short amount of time before North America was compelled to join the Spanish Empire (i.e. land was taken, Indians became slaves, etc.) and take on their living standards.

You could say that it was a clash of cultures as the Spaniards began to dominate the land. Later, Spain’s achievements caused great challenges as they ignited an uproar of other nations to want their own claims of land.

In conclusion, this “New World”, which really turns out to be an “Old World”, marks a key stage of history. The pre-Columbian culture of North America left behind many remarkable Native emblems such as: cities, agriculture, civic/monumental architecture, major earthworks, and societal hierarchies. As well as, the culture commenced a great civilization to follow afterward. This reinforces the belief that North America was not a “New World” after all.
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>>596119
Indians were relatively civilized in some areas, contact with Europeans really devastated them through disease. It was going to happen at some point or another.
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>>596168
>Indians were relatively civilized in some areas
Civilized in what way and relative to what?

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ITT: Post your /his/ waifu
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>not Florence Nightingale

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Who are the greatest historical figures of all time /his/? Pic related.
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Is this really a question?
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Napoleon's face is something impressive on its own. He reminds me of Mads Mikkelsen.

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Why are these people not part of Mongolia? They are literally Mongolian.
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>>595811
Russkies quietly annexed them while WW2 was still going on.
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There's a documentary called Tuva - Independent People that explains what happens there.
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>>595811
Russia didn't want Mongolia to have a monopoly on throat singing

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Who was the first prophet to exist in history?
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>>595601
Melchizedek
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>>595601
Jim of Africa

>Hey guys I'm Jim of Africa
>I saw some lightning kill a goat, so it must've been a greater being trying to tell me something.
>I can speak to this greater being, nobody else can.
>Suck my dick

something like that.
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>>595601
He was Anonymous, may be a writer of Ancient Egypt tales or Ancient Sumer tales.
And often modern people do not call him prophet because his religion dead now, because religons are mortals.

What must it have been like to be a French soldier, when Napoleon returned from exile?

It must have been like watching Christ resurrected. What a crisis of loyalty it must have caused.
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>>595448
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffeOvwBYkf4
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>>595448
Well, you had to choose between a fat incompetent old king who had executed thousands of your fellow veterans for "treason" and had already managed to get the pleb butthurt at him in a few months of ruling, or the godlike Emperor who ruled the country in great fairness and lead the armies to glory countless times
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>>595473
And yet many of the Marshals didn't return to his side.

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What was Anglo-Saxon Christianity like?
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Orthodox Christianity with Western style icons, vestments and rites.
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>>595339
It was predominantly Celtic based at first with men like St. Aidan and St. Cuthbert being its chief architects.

However, St. Wilfrid lead a movement that ultimately allowed Roman influence to become primary.

And of course the Anglo-Saxons were the first of the Germanic peoples to embrace Christ so their Northern heritage added a unique element to the mix
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Are they any good books on the subject.
For like rites and the theology of their beliefs.

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Can we really coexist with eachother?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aspn2k9qko8
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>>595299
Yes. Empires have been quite successful at that before Nationalism duped groups into thinking they're special snowflakes.
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>>595299
is this you OP?
you look and sound like a twat
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>>595299
> not having hammer&sickle
Nope. I'm afraid you'll have to be liberated by the Red Army.

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Dear /his/, enlighten me on the history of Iberia.

>How has Spain and Portugal managed to live together for so long without clashing, or am I wrong on that point altogether?
>How did the Portugese manage to end, and stay on the western side of the region?
>What happened to the Moors?
etc. etc.
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>How has Spain and Portugal managed to live together for so long without clashing, or am I wrong on that point altogether?
They fought each other a lot, mostly Spain trying to annex it. Usually Portugal and England vs Spain and France.
>How did the Portugese manage to end, and stay on the western side of the region?
The County of Portucale was given to Henry, the father of the first portuguese king.
>What happened to the Moors?
Reconquistas, deus vult
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>>595029
Basically this

>>594966
It's also necessary to mention that there were attempts to unify the Iberian Peninsula through marriage. All of which failed as you can see. Closest to there being a Iberian union was after D.Sebastião's death, with Philip II of Spain.
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>>594966

>etc. etc.
Seriously?

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Alas, the Great King has fallen, Alexander son of Phillip had fallen ill and perished on the year of 323 BC, It is now the year 322, There is huge unrest among the successor states of Alexander.
On the West, we have the Aetolian League, who is fighting through thick and thin to keep it's small holdings.
Pyrrhus, king of Epirus, is raising a huge army to expand into the Italic region.
Sparta pulled a Switzerland on us and remained neutral.
The usurper Cassander took over the Macedonian throne and now rules with an iron fist.
Lysimachus has taken Thrace, and a part of Macedonia.
On the East we have:
Ptolemy I Soter has declared himself Pharaoh of Egypt and he has claimed all of Alexander's Egyptian holdings.
Seleucus I Nicator is the holder of the Persian lands and currently has the biggest Empire.
Antigonus I Monophthalmus has the Athenian city-state and most of Asia Minor and the Levant.
You're an influencial Greek nobleman with an ideology of Hellenic Unification, same as Alexander, any kingdom you join is most likely to succeed in destroying the other kingdoms.
You have a huge disdain for Barbarians (so, no Romans, Armenians, or Carthaginians).
Choose a hellenistic succesor state and give your reasoning for it.
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Seleucids because I like their roster in RTW.
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The Mauryans are on there for some reason so them
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>>594851
(HUGE DISDAIN FOR BARBARIANS)

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What television shows, films, books, etc... are the best example of bad history being portrayed as real history/accurate reenactments of history?

>pic fucking related what the fuck
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>>594601
Rome.
Vikings
Any x-treem history channel show, there has never been a good one, ever.
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>>594607
Rome isn't that bad. It's actually pretty enjoyable and they at least manage to get the broad strokes right and the set design is top fucking notch and period accurate.

Agree about Vikings and most other historical fiction shows.
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>deadliest warrior
>they have samurai defeating vikings despite vikings having mail armor with katana getting over 100 kills in the simulation while viking spear gets fewer despite Japanese having no real armor
>Atilla defeats Alexander the Great
>Washington defeats Napoleon
>they put 15th century knight against 18th century pirate
>put up ming warrior against french musketeer
>comanche (with no firearms) defeats mongol
>they actually do an episode on zombies vs vampires
>treated as scientifically and historically accurate
>mfw

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Let's talk about the Battle of Jena-Auerstedt of 1806.

Want went right for the French?
Want went wrong for the Prussians?
What were the ramifications with respect to European politics, as well as to military theory and political thought?
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>>594594
>What went right for the French?
Napoleon
>What went wrong for the Prussians?
Their generals
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Can't ___ the Davout
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>>594594
Battle of Jena was standard stuff, nothing impressive, just basic-Napoleon.

However, the battle of Auerstedt is so god damn impressive I don't know how it could go like this...

Davout was meant to go to a secondary position. He asked Bernadotte to help him, but this smug bastard refused. Davout went toward this small village and then shit happened.

Basically Davout's soldiers were outnumbered 3 to 1. But because he used light infantry to harass the germans, and because the prussians shat themselves thinking they were fighting a much bigger force, they did not concentrate their army like they should have.
After a lot of quick, violent actions, Davout's men prevailed over retreating prussians.

Davout is the only marshall of Napoleon's army to have NEVER been defeated. At Austerlitz he even managed to hold his line while outnumbered 10 to 1, which allowed Napoleon to do his grand maneuver and win the battle.

Basically it was the golden age of the french army, which ended in 1809.

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Post an old flag from a country that is better than the current one
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>>594583
All old flags are better Anon. This is /his/.
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There's already a flag thread, m8. Anyway, l'll bring up Taiwan again.
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Grorius Nippon

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https://youtu.be/50By01L7uzY

>that Ancient Chinese

Language Thread
>What language(s) are you studying?
>How would you rate your level?
>What languages would you like to learn?
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>>594557
yeah ancient chinese sounds like a drunk guy trolling

>What language(s) are you studying?
Portuguese.
>How would you rate your level?
Meh. I don't really practice anything other than the memorization of a few poems. Can read fairly well with a dictionary. No fluency.

>What languages would you like to learn?
Persian, Arabic, German, Italian, ancient/koine Greek.
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>>594557
OP here, I'll weigh in with a lil bump and explanation of my own situation

>What language(s) are you studying?
Pretty basic bitch, but Spanish.

>How would you rate your level?
I think I'm squarely at intermediate. I'm studying abroad in Spain right now and living with a host family, so I'm definitely learning at an advanced rate, and can hold a conversation, but still having troubles. I think part of it is because I'm friends with a lot of international students and due to varying levels we sometimes talk more English than Spanish, even though we try to speak Spanish amongst ourselves. Don't have the "full" immersion feeling yet.

>What languages would you like to learn?
Arabic, Korean, Portuguese (pretty natural segue), French, Russian.

Any polyglots on /his/? How many languages do you speak? And what did you do to learn them? What's your "secret"?
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>>594557
ryukyuan.... so kawaii

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Post old maps

The less accurate the better
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What's so bad about accuracy?
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>>594503

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