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You're chillen by the Sea of Galilee doing some fishing with your brother when this guy walks up to you and saith unto you, follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.

What do?
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>>676683
Hey aren't you John's disciple who is bitterly pissed about the socio-economic conditions of non-hellenized Jews and want to overthrow Roman occupation?

Good luck with that.

>Cast out my fishing net
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You fish fish you retard now fuck off
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>>676683
What should I do with men? Fuck them? I'm not a persian, also why are you white?

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What does /his/ think of pic-related?
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they are alright

yet lacking any real originality
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For briefing on philosophy and history and such, they're okay. In their other videos I think they're too busy trying to forcing their own world view onto you.
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>>676634
This. Wish they just stuck to quick overviews of dead people. Then it'd be a good intro channel for newbies.

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Was he right?
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>>676385
He changed his views significantly over the course of his career. If "right" is a meaningful category, I think he may have gotten closer than he did, given a longer life.

But the question that needs to be asked, to clarify, is : "Was he right about what, OP?"

or alternatively:
"The hell you on about?"
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>>676413

Is philosophy just a result of misunderstanding language?
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>>676423
I think the academic discipline of philosophy could be views that way without losing any of its significance, function or meaning.

On the other hand, metaphysical reality could be see as existing independently of its communication, yeah?

Does nature have rules?
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Yes, energy cannot be created or destroyed
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>>676347
Define rules?
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Take this to /sci/ where you'll get answers slightly more informed than this
>>676352

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Were there any legitimate kings before Charlemagne?
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>>676122
Were there any legitimate kings after Charlemagne?
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Wuz we kangz and shiet?
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Considering that Slavs use his name as a word for a king, probably not.

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Can Protestantism and Eastern Christianity even be said to be the same religion? I find so many glaring differences in approach to faith and relationships with the Divine that it's hard to imagine they're anything but wildly different worldviews united in name only. Take for example:

>Protestant deemphasis on ritual and sanctified religious buildings
The argument I see in favor of this is that you don't need ornate rituals and decorations in order to be in the presence of God, since He is with you all the time, but I feel like reducing a relationship with the divine to just a simple idea that is always "there" misses the point on what experiencing God is truly supposed to feel like. Yes, it is true that His presence is universal, but humans aren't wired to bask in it all the time the time unless there are powerful sensual reminders of His holiness. If you stop, right now, and say "God is right here with me," you might get a *little* bit of comfort from that, but you can't really grasp what that actually entails by trying to rationalise it alone. It's no secret that even non-believers often find holy rituals and churches immaculately designed to welcome His presence uplifting and spiritual. Trying to live through the mundane life with the idea that God is watching your back all the time usually doesn't have the same powerful reminder that He REALLY has your back all the time that you get from attending divine services.

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>Once you are saved you always have His grace, and your relationship with Him should be about living life according to the Bible and submitting to His will.
Now I understand the comforting universal appeal of such a world-view, but honestly it misses the point of what a relationship with God is ACTUALLY trying to achieve, and comes off to me as too superficially contractual. A lot of devout, sincere Protestants go through life always trying to have a relationship with God, but the actual impact it has on how they operate and their ability to overcome adversity might never actually change for the better. On the other hand, Eastern theology is always about coming ever closer to God and gaining revelation through His energies, in a process that never ends until death and will always challenge even the most life-long devotee. It's not a coincidence that early Christianity was called "the Way," since that implies a continuous, unending journey that one must make the utmost effort to walk, rather than a simple contractual obligation to accept Christ as your Lord and then have him act as a simple mediator in your mind whenever doubt arises.

Now, despite all this, I'm not claiming that there's not profound things in Protestantism that many people can and do benefit from, and I know that these are just generalisations since a lot of Protestant sects don't even subscribe to these beliefs. Plus I'm not discount the countless genuine spiritual revelations that many Protestant faithful have had which have led them to live sanctified lives of faith, but I'd wager these are the exception, not the rule, and that most Protestants go through their whole spiritual life without ever truly experiencing the depth and profoundness of what the Christian Way can lead to.

What are your thoughts on this /his/? Are there any Protestants who'd like to refute some of my claims? I'm open to any and all (polite) discussion!

God bless.
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>>676117

Protestant here.

We don't deny it's true that we are material creatures, attuned to the material. We do not (except in the most stupid and debased forms of Protestantism) neglect the importance of tradition, church, and even art. We do de-emphasize the ultimate importance of these things purely in themselves, and I think this is a good thing.

For the Protestant there is, as in all spiritual paths, a risk to the soul in using material images, namely, the temptation to (whether explicitly or implicitly) over-exalt the material to the point that it obscures the spiritual, committing a kind of idolatry. I wouldn't say that it's impossible to be a good Catholic or Orthodox and still maintain healthy spiritual practice, but I would say that it's got risks even with the best intentions and the Protestant does well to err on the side of caution in this respect. If we give up a little extra richness this side of heaven, it's better than accidentally becoming a pious idolater. The Vale of Tears is a risky place, and it's best to proceed with caution.

For all that, however, the Protestant thrives on sanctifying ordinary and private life, the inner life of the individual believer. It is there, in the salvation of the individual, that the encounter with God first occurs (corporate goods flow from this). Hence the Protestant emphasis on private devotion and the sanctification of our innermost selves, which balances our de-emphasis on merely external signs. The emphasis on reading scripture for oneself, at its best, is to facilitate just this kind of encounter, which cannot be mistaken for a merely sociological phenomenon. In my own case, I can say that I truly do see ordinary life lit up with rays from Heaven, even as I can see that it will all pass away and I hope for something better.
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>>676128


Interesting that you call it "contractual." The Protestant emphasis on faith as the only gateway to salvation is precisely an effort to free our practice from some sort of crude economic exchange of virtue for reward. Once we are assured of our salvation, we aim to act out of love of God, and to give effect to the new, eternal life which has been kindled within us.The best Protestants are always against their guard against complacency, and never are Protestants urged to be satisfied with mere belief.

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If you could bring any one person in history to the future to show them how they have impacted the world today, who would you bring?
Pic related, if you didn't know, it's from an episode of Dr. Who where the doctor brings Vincent Van Gogh to a museum where his paintings are on display.
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Jesus, duh.
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>>676005
That'd be some funny shit tbqh senpai
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Hitler.

I think he might be a little upset about having become a byword for 'evil'.

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ITT: We post good people that were on the bad side

pic related
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there were no good sides in WW2, they were all shit except maybe a few bumfuck partisans around the place
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>>675940
>Rommel
>good person.

Meme harder. Sure, he was involved in the July plot, but that's after riding Hitler's coat tails for years; shooting Nazi propaganda films, volunteering to head his bodyguards when on international trips, appealing to the Fuhrer to override his Heer superiors when guys like Halder told him he had dumb ideas. The guy was hardly a political innocent.
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How come no one remembers Heinrich Luitpold Himmler..for real he help start the damn holocaust
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He looked like a nerd
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Because they do
Hes probably most famous of the nazis after Hitler
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>>675854
Surely Goering holds that title.

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What can I do in the private sector with a PhD in History?
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Work for a private university, join an institute/think tank, self publish your work.
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>private sector

y m8
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>>675839
HAHAHAHAHA

>PhD in history

nice going retard.

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Should the humanities be taught to all members of society? Or should it be the domain of specialists like, in a sense, science? How do you feel about the oft prophesied "death of the liberal arts"?

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>>675793
Sorry. Wrong pic.
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>>675793
The western canon is problematic and triggering, we should teach slam poetry instead.
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All people should simply be taught literacy and how to learn. Everything else is for fun.

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If correlation doesn't equal causation, what does? And why can't you trust it even when variables are isolated? Why statistics?
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>>675761
what if they are both caused by the same thing
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>>675761
You can't control for all variables till you know all variables. And there are unknown unknowns so this is impossible.
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dude i thought that was a vagina

Should the U.S. have annexed the Philippines?
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>>675749
yes
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>>675756
why is that? to get those sweet, sweaty, flip """resources""", what's the point in colonizing if they are going to be a proxy state that nobody gives a shit about

it was a port so that merchants had a place to stop on their way to relevant places
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>>675759
Nah, we just wanted the benefits of being American, like healthcare, better standard of living and shit actually getting done by our politicians.

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It's Ash Wednesday, /his/.

Remember that you are dust, and to dust you will return.
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Fuck off
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>>675714

Is there anything preventing me from receiving ashes from two different services? I don't think so but have no source for that. I'm going to Catholic, not Anglican, services. thank you
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>>675714
I'm pretty sure i was a bunch of genetic material prior becoming an embryo.

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>9th Grade U.S. History lesson
>learning about the Revolutionary War
>teacher suggests watching a movie
>it's the fucking Patriot
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>European history teacher says the Romans salted Carthage
>same teacher says inventor of the guillotine was guillotined
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>>675569
You think they'd accept the most realistic Revolutionary War film knowing its a musical? None of these millennial plebs appreciate musicals, even the Disney ones.
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>>675636
>not watching Disney Princess movies and picking out the historical inaccuracies

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