Have battles ever come down to single combat and champion warfare? Is there any documented cases or is it all just legends and memes?
>>587413
I know there has definitely been 1 on 1 dogfights, but flying in a plane isn't quite "muh honorable single combat"
>>587413
Also examples of it would be cool if you guys know
>>587425
Well that still counts, I was just thinking further back
In this topic, we will discuss history books.
I'm in the middle of reading pic related, so I chronicle some interesting things I come across I would like to share with /his/.
Discussing the origins of the Schlieffen plan:
>To achieve decisive victory, Schlieffen fixed upon a strategy derived from Hannibal and the Battle of Cannae. The dead general who mesmerized Schlieffen had been dead a very long time. Two thousand years had passed since Hannibal’s classic double envelopment of the Romans at Cannae. Field gun and machine gun had replaced bow and arrow and slingshot, Schlieffen wrote, “but the principles of strategy remain unchanged. The enemy’s front is not the objective. The essential thing is to crush the enemy’s flanks … and complete the extermination by attack upon his rear.” Under Schlieffen, envelopment became the fetish and frontal attack the anathema of the German General Staff.
>>587400
>we will discuss history books.
So don't post a picture of a book written by a journalist that is eisegetic.
Hey, /his/ what's a good book on the Akkadian Empire?
What's a good book on the life or Zarathustra/Zoroaster?
>>587504
thus spoke zarathustra
How exactly did this brilliant son of a bitch unify all of the german kingdoms under one flag?
>>587305
It was his duty to unite the german people under one flag
I'm polish and I love this man
by revolutionizing german thought
>Sufism will never replace wahhabism and batshit Sunnis as the majority sect in Islam
>Islam will never be glimmering desert cities and wise old sultans in the public imagination ever again
Patience and ye shall receive.
I've just had to listen to two of my mates going on about how Islam is shit and how it ruined the Middle East and nothing good came out of the region since the people became Muslims.
SandNinjas and oil jews isnt that bad. The middle east is currently really tryhard with their government and may have 15 thousand gdp per capita 20 years from now. Right now its 5k, one fifth of united states gdppc.
>lol bro, we actually won our war after 20 years of massacres and napalm baths
>fucking awesome man, now we only have to do one thing: annex south vietnam
>you're right. We should do something to show we are liberators!
>yeah, but what? Improving foreign trade relations, announcing quality of life improvements, what?
>hey man I just got this fucking amazing idea, lets take saigon and then commit genocide!
>oh wow you're a fucking genius! Why didn't I think of that? That's the best way to summarize the 20 years of blood we've spilled trying to liberate these people from the evil imperialists!
>yeah but how much genocide should we do?
>hmm, how about 165,000 people?
>but wait there aren't even that many people in saigon at the moment.
>it's cool bro, we'll genocide them slowly so that we can wait until they have kids, then genocide them for double points
>alright good shit man! I'll get to work on this right away!
> don't forget the re-education camps!
American detected.
>implying saigon wasnt full
American detected.
>implying saigon wasnt full of capitalist scum
Did Europe ever sent fully conventional armies overseas to fight before the industrial revolution occurred? I'm talking heavy cavalry, artillery and crack infantry troops.
Correct me if I am wrong but I almost always see the conquering force is composed largely of sailors and navy personal or light infantry and light cavalry like the conquistadors.
>>587251
Are we counting the English chanel as overseas? The War of Spanish Sucession and 7 years war had troops everywhere.
Most pre-Industrial European powers were more concerned about their next door neighbor than someone across the sea.
>>587251
Your typification of pre-1830s militaries is junk.
>>587251
Portugal has frequently attempted to gain possession of the coastal forts in Morocco.
At least 6000 Portugese (At least half of which were knights) attempted to seize Tangiers from the Moroccans in the 1417.
In 1471 the Portuguese deployed 30,000 men and at least some heavy artillery.
The last major conflict, Ksar El Kebir, saw the Portugese amass an army of some 18,000 and 40 cannons.
>In 1290, King Edward I issued an edict expelling all Jews from England. The expulsion edict remained in force for the rest of the Middle Ages.
Was this justified expulsion or another example of antisemitic persecution
Definitely self-defense.
>>587206
Hello, /pol/.
>>587206
>>587212
>>587215
before jumping to conclusions, is there anything to explain why he expelled? And was this policy forced on others as well?
I don't understand people who claim Jews are always to blame for being exiled or punished. Christians chased away and repressed pagans non the less, and yet stormfags go on and on about European traditions in regards to paganism.
What made the latin people so successful compared to their germanic counterparts ?
The UK was indeed successful, but it was also heavily influenced by the french.
The germans didn't have as much colonies as the brits and the spanish. The colonizing of the new world was a priority of those two and the french rather than the germans.
Which, of course, if someone can explain what led to this? Why germans didn't conquer so much teritories as the others?
>>587298
Germans had nowhere to go but east. Baltic is cold as balls. Half of Europe is modernized becuase of Germanization eastwards by Austrians, Prusians, etc.
>>587205
Spain and France were the biggest colonisers of the Latin countries and both were into that game quite early and they were relatively centralized.
Germany didn't exist, Austria had to deal with the Ottomans. Poles, Swedes and such had to deal with Russia and each other.
The only 'germanic' people with access to the Atlantic were the Dutch and English really and they absolutely flourished.
Mali used to be richest country in the world when Mansa Musa ruled it, what went wrong /his/?
>>587183
Guns and Moroccans
>>587183
He got involved in a land war in Asia.
>the richest country in the world
When will this meme end? Mali wasn't "the richest country", the king of Mali was the richest person at the time, because the rest of Mali were busy mining gold for him. They had no real economy except, well, gold mines.
Is this true?
>via 9gag
>>587161
No
We dupe ourself into thinking we have free will by way of our conscience.
Ultimately our brain is in total control.
Can anybody tell me whom this pendant is depicting?
>polished nails
r u a grill?
the imaginary picture of ali bin abi talib.
>>587143
Imam al-Mehdi
Why do people overemphasize the side of Nietzsche that isn't against master morality?
It seems the first lesson people take is "hur hur being strong is the only good, so i should go lift weights and take fighting classes".
It's just such a disappointment that the most boring parts of Nietzsche are so emphasized.
It's because many view his (and other's) work as simply a self-improvement guide in a 'how to get alpha' style.
It's been appropriated as self help by people who have The Art of Manliness as their homepage.
It's like people who call themselves nihilists because 'hurr durr le universe is really big, lyfe has no meaning' while still caring about wearing nice clothes and getting laid.
>>587136
Except that's not true at all.
At all.
Nietzsche doesn't mind you choosing certain morals, he just wants you to choose them from strength, not from weakness.
>>587138
>It's been appropriated as self help by people who have The Art of Manliness as their homepage.
You think so? I don't associate with that sort of person so I don't know what they think.
Does anyone want to form a new movement: Anti-anti-anti-religious people? I don't meant anti as an intensifier or a negator. We're not anti-religious. We're anti-the people who are anti-the anti-religious people. I.e. we're anti-the below articles author
http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2016/01/why-humans-find-it-hard-do-away-religion
>>587116
t bh the most genuine friends i've had are the so-called "douchebags" and the most insufferable judgemental assholes are the self described "nice guys". I'm not trying to go reddit here , and i'm saying this as a nerdy brown virgin.
>>587116
So you're against people who are against assholes, that makes you pro-asshole, gotcha.
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/01/21/remains-earliest-known-massacre-victims-uncovered-in-kenya.html
January 21, 2016
Remains of earliest known massacre victims uncovered in Kenya
Scientists say they have uncovered the remains of the earliest known massacre victims, dating from approximately 10,000 years ago.
Archaeologists believe the victims were members of an extended family group of hunter-gatherers who were slaughtered by a rival group.
According to the scientists' report in the journal Nature, parts of 27 skeletons were discovered near Lake Turkana in northern Kenya. Ten of the twelve relatively complete skeletons showed signs of a violent death, including smashed skulls and faces, broken ribs and evidence of arrow wounds.
cont.
>>587098
Partial remains of 15 other skeletons were also found and are believed to belong to victims of the same attack. The group included the skeletons of at least eight women and six children. A fetal skeleton was also found in the abdomen of one of the female skeletons.
"The ... massacre may have resulted from an attempt to seize resources – territory, women, children, food stored in pots – whose value was similar to those of later food-producing agricultural societies, among whom violent attacks on settlements became part of life," said lead study authorDr. Marta Mirazón Lahr of the University of Cambridge.
The find offers compelling evidence in the scientific debate about whether human aggression was passed on to us from our primate ancestors or emerged after the development of agriculture and settled, hierarchical human societies. The earliest known so-called "war grave" before the latest discovery was found in Germany and dated to approximately 5000 B.C.
"I’ve no doubt it is in our biology to be aggressive and lethal, just as it is to be deeply caring and loving,” study author Robert Foley of the University of Cambridge told the Daily Telegraph. "A lot of what we understand about human evolutionary biology suggests these are two sides of the same coin."
FIN
>>587135
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> > 10,000 years ago
> WE
Yes, the beings 10K years ago qualify as anatomically modern humans; "WE".
>>587145
It paints a compelling picture though. Monkeys love to fight and be loud.
Lets talk about this man.
>>587076
His role in the Napoleonic wars is underrated.
Why does everyone talk about this kraut instead of pic related?
>>587076
An interesting theoriest, but I think he's over-applied myself; a lot of the stuff he talks about, like the primary strategic implement being the army itself, and not the population base, held true for pre-industrial warfare but doesn't work so much in a modern total war framework.
>>587610
Because most of his works were about operational level stuff, not strategic level stuff. Most plebs who aren't serious military historians or military personnel find tactics interesting, they find strategy interesting, but the stuff in the middle tends to bore.
