I'm a pervert and I want to talk about the philosophies and history involving sex
>>1088628
how bout you just go jerk off and not spread filth on my board, degenerate?
>>1088644
Hi christian.
Hows the chastity belt?
seems it sums up to
controception discovered = Let's fuck!
STD discovered = whoa man shut that down
Is there such thing as objective beauty? Or is beauty in the eyes of the beholder?
>>1088604
I think its a bit of both.
There are certain things that a majority will always find attractive, but humans have individual personalities, likes, and dislikes, which leads to minority opinions on beauty.
>>1088604
eyes of the beholder
>Source: An anon who finds things attractive that causes nightmares in some people.
>>1088613
>There are certain things that a majority will always find attractive
Since 1932 the University of Birmingham has had, among its collected works, a virtually full two page fragment of the Qur’an. Recently they decided to see if they could come up with a date for these pages. And so they had a carbon-14 dating done. The results are nothing less than astounding. See, e.g., http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/23/opinions/quran-manuscript-analysis/index.html
Carbon-14 dating dates organic material based on the deterioration of its carbon-14 isotope, and so can give a range of dates that are statistically determined to be of relative accuracy. This dating is remarkable. The dating was done by a lab devoted to such things in Oxford. There is a 95% chance that these pages were produced between 568 and 645 CE. The prophet Mohammed was engaged in his active ministry in 610-632 CE. These pages may have been produced during his lifetime or in a decade or so later.
In case anyone is missing the significance of that, here is a comparison. The first time we have any two-page manuscript fragment of the New Testament is from around the year 200 CE. That’s 170 years after Jesus’ death in 30 CE.
The Bible has hundreds of thousands of discrepancies in known early manuscripts. Whereas these fragments perfectly match the modern Qu'ran.
Why is it that Muslims have done such a perfect job of accurately preserving the text of the Qu'ran compared to Christians?
Is it because Muslim scholars were guided by God?
Parchment has been known to be used time and again because shit's expensive.
Also
>martyrs get a bunch of grapes and a nice shade instead of virgins in early editions
You do aware that parchment was often reused in the middle ages? The mere fact that material is old doesn't mean a writing on it as old too, I can go and paint "AYY LMAO" on Egyptian pyramids, that won't prove aliens visited Egypt 4500 years ago.
>>1086549
Because Muslims believe the Koran is the literal word of God.
Christians do not think this except for a few extreme sects
Is this literally Good Goy: The Philosophy?
>>1081111
It's just the most uninspired, banal philosophy the greeks ever shat out. You know it's lame shit when the romans adopt it wholesale.
Also nice quads.
>>1081147
top kek
you're an actual retard
>>1081147
Why, because it offers practical and useful advice? Would you rather read obsolete theories about forms or motion?
There are two types of smart people. Those that realise the implications of relativism / Stirner / Munchhausen trilemma and admit it, and those who realise it and ignore it (those who don't realise it are dumb).
People who ignore it are usually navel gazing, house of card building, obscurantist, pretentious charlatans / academics. Most people who admit it aren't even involved in philosophy. A few people who admit it, such as myself, point out how all talk of ethics, metaphysics, etc is based on feelings and has nothing non-trivial to tell us.
Of course religionfags and philosophyfags try their hard to associate themselves with things of people who are seen as respectable or intelligent or other things. So they will lie and dissemble, all out of self interest.
>>1092873
Yup. Two types of folks, the quick and the dead.
Stirner is one of the dead.
>>1092873
Well, if you really admit Munchhausen trilemma, you can't even justify natural sciences nor mathematics.
>>1092873
>A few people who admit it, such as myself, point out how all talk of ethics, metaphysics, etc is based on feelings and has nothing non-trivial to tell us.
taking it a wee bit too far. stirner never says ethics and metaphysics are trivial. he just says you own them.
>Of course religionfags and philosophyfags try their hard to associate themselves with things of people who are seen as respectable or intelligent or other things. So they will lie and dissemble, all out of self interest.
stirner himself is not a psychological egoist. it is not true that EVERYTHING people do is out of self interest, stirner just believes you can find self interest in many things people do believe.
i've read stirner a fucking lot too so don't try to condescend
So /his/, was the Temperance Movement a good idea? Were these women justified in physically blocking entrances to bars in an attempt to discourage drinking?
>>1092235
They are lucky they didn't get hurt or killed
This is the general kind of shit that makes me wonder if Martin Luther was wrong.
>>1092235
Buncha frigid cunts 2bh
ITT People who don't deserve the title of "great" and why.
>Had his whole army handed to him and was already in a position of power
>Famous for taking down a weakening empire
>Died without a heir causing the collapse of his empire
>Was too damn ambitious that led to distrust between him and his men
>His legacy was wiped out by the Arabs
>>1089869
I'd like to see you do half as well
>>1089869
>Had his whole army handed to him and was already in a position of power
What? He literally had to beat his own father in order to get where he was?
>Died without a heir causing the collapse of his empire
It continued long he died and was the cause of Hellinization, arguebaly the most importaint thing in the development of the western world.
>His legacy was wiped out by the Arabs
Last I checked the culture spread by Hellinzation were still number 1 and Arabic culture is confined to a minor part of the world.
>Famous for taking down a weakening empire
You mean the only world power that really rivaled Greece in the region?
>Was too damn ambitious that led to distrust between him and his men
If he managed to win while having his men distrust him that would actually make him greater.
John Green please go home.
>>1089869
ITT butthurt plebs who use introspection to deduce that there are no great men in this world.
Can you follow two religions? Maybe even two or five at once? What is maximum number that you could realistically combine to outplay Pascal's wage?
>>1081428
depends on the religions. you definitely couldn't do it with Abrahamic religions though. worshipping several gods being banned is pretty damn central to them
>>1081446
"It's just a metaphor bro"
"BRO STOP HITTING ME IT'S JUST A METAPHOR"
t. Christian YouTube prankster
>>1081446
>you definitely couldn't do it with Abrahamic religions
But they all worship the same god?
Seems like it would be easy to game the system between the three of them.
Well?
Heaven/Gehenna is the spiritual dimension which intersects with the material, but we are blind to it from sin. With more sensitivity to it, the more acutely you become aware of God permeating everything. This is increasingly blissful light if you love God, or increasingly tormenting fire if you hate him.
>>1093479
get that gay shit out of here. this is hell.
>>1093479
This.
God is inescapable. Your soul determines how you experience his all-consuming love.
Why didn't the British kill their monarchy?
>>1087941
They did once, it ended badly
>>1087947
>badly
>>1087947
>it ended badly
Went pretty well for a bit. If you were protestant.
>Enter germanic forest
>it ain't me starts playing
Did this nation really emerge from WW2 as a global superpower? Events before and during WW2 make me really skeptical of such a view.
>Have a feudal political system up until 19th century
>Industrialise much later than other established powers
>Lose most of your navy in the Russo-Japanese War
>Experience years of political turmoil
>Undergo a revolution
>Lose WW1
>Undergo a civil war
>Lose millions on the Eastern Front and have much of your infrastructure destroyed
>>1082687
Nah. It was a meme to scare Americans into everything their powerful people wanted.
People pretend like Russia pre-revolution was some kind of irrelevant backwater but that's pretty much just a meme. It was a top 5 great power easily.
>>1082699
>It was a top 5 great power easily.
Based only on the sheer size of its army. Russia was way behind western Europe in just about every way.
How can any reasonable person deny moral relativism?
SHUT UP AND ACCEPT CHRISTIANITY
DON'T YOU KNOW THAT IT IS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR CULTURE??????
Because its quite easy to think that all cultures/civilizations have the same basic goals and intentions which they consider good, its just that their means of acheiving said goals can be different as a result of a different set of facts or lack there of.
>>1090405
They can't.
You'll notice their arguments against moral relativism tend to boil down to LOL WHY DONT I JUST RAPE YOUR MOM THEN NO MORALS NO LAWS
Can we get a history of labor struggles thread?
Has there ever been a time where labor was treated with respect by capitalists? As far as I can tell, the history is mostly greedy capitalists forcing and manipulating people to suppress wages and keep themselves powerful.
I nominate the Ludlow massacre for the shittiest event in labor history.
>>1094120
>I nominate the Ludlow massacre for the shittiest event in labor history.
I'll raise you Ludlow with Kronstadt.
As much as I sympathize with labor, it seems like whenever laborers are given too much power, society collapses and all the stability the elites strove to maintain is erased. What's the deal with that? Can we not do that next time?
>>1094156
Can you cite what you're talking about?
What is a "language game"? Does Wittgenstein ever attempt to give a simple explanation?
>>1093730
Do you know the builder/slab example from Philosophical Investigations?
>>1093748
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know it, but I feel like I'd have a really hard time explaining it to someone who doesn't get it.
>>1093766
One of the builders says to the other:
"Please bring me a slab"
or he says
"Slab!"
Does the meaning of these two different utterances differ? An analytic philosophy autist could talk all day about how their syntactic forms differ, but Wittgenstein's claim is that the two don't differ in their meaning here because they have the same role in the language game between the two builders.
