So, it turns out that the A-bombs did not force the Japanese to surrender, and thus were not necessary.
http://apjjf.org/-Tsuyoshi-Hasegawa/2501/article.pdf
In fact, the Soviet threat played a much more crucial role in forcing the Japanese to surrender.
It has been established that the A-bombs were dropped on Hirosima and Nagasaki mainly because:
1. The US had spend millions (that's a fuckload of money for the 1940's) on the Manhattan project that was kept secret from the US citizens (the Soviets knew about it). If the Americans ever found out that Roosevelt and Truman had spend millions on a project that didn't produce any result(s), they would have buttfucked the US political and military leadership to oblivion (BUY OUR BONDS LADIES & GENTS AND WE WILL USE THE MONEY ON A PROJECT THAT WOULDN'T DO SHIT TO SAVE YOUR LOVED ONES THAT ARE FIGHTING THE GOOD WAR!). We are talking about millions of $$$ that could have been spend on conventional weapons, aircraft, armor, ammunition, and other GI gear and military supplies that could have made a huge difference on the battlefield.
2. The US wanted to scare the USSR. Didn't fucking work though. Stalin got most of what he wanted.
3. Another reason the bombs were used was to observe, record, and measure their destructive affects upon real humans and infrastructure. Also, the reason the US dropped TWO bombs wasn't because Japan did not immediately surrender right after Hirosima, but because Little Boy was a uranium gun-type atomic bomb, while Fat Man was a plutonium implosion-type bomb. US scientists wanted to record and compare the destructiveness of these two different types of A-bombs. This is also evident by the decision to bomb two cities that were largely untouched by the constant fire-bombing of major Japanese cities by the US.
I thought nagasaki was bombed because whatever place they wanted to bomb instead was too cloudy
>>715248
Nice brainfart.
>>715233
Fuck. Made a typo on the title.
I meant Hirosima & Nagasaki.
Do words have meaning?
That smirk on her face makes me think she is lying to us
>>714024
Words have meaning but I doubt her and I would agree on the meaning of many words
Words require definition, emotions require feelings. Hence poetry literature etc.
Words only have meaning when those using the words can mutually agree on the meaning, or a power enforces it.
Also, colonization and indigenous people are social constructs.
Why do most modern historians seem to dismiss all forms of honor, selflessness, and nobility of spirit?
Every good deed, or nice word, or service is assumed to have a shrewd political or economic motive, and if it doesn't then it's clearly a sign of lunacy. Is it really so hard to believe that great people in the past actually did some things out of the goodness of their hearts?
>>711789
All of that is subjective
Examples?
>>711789
Don't know what kind of works you read but I come across Historians who recognize such driving forces in people.
>Western Society demonizes suicide
>Eastern Philosophy welcomes death
What the fuck am I supposed to do?
I don't want to be part of a world founded on death, lies and blind competition.
If I kill myself, it means my enemies won, and I'm a pussy.
If I live, it means I give into capitalism, corporatism and years of deceit constructed by more lying assholes.
How do you cope with life?
You stop making vague over generalizing statements about concepts and fields you know nothing about.
life kills you eventually anyway and it does it for free
stop being so impatient wait for a while and you will suicide by natural causes
its not like your time is valuable to you anyway by the sounds of things
Get out of the house, smell some roses, build or fix something with your hands. Realize that the world you're talking about is just another construct in your head you can discard for a few hours and then come back and re-examine with a more sober, critical eye.
What does the average Chinese know about the histories of the Greeks and the Romans?
Do they know pretty much nothing just like the average Westerner knows pretty much nothing about Chinese history?
Well they had legends of Da Qin (Rome), which was seen as a sort of mythical counterpart of China mirrored on the other side of the world. The average peasant would probably know about as much about Rome as medieval peasants would have known about China.
>>710546
*Medieval Roman, I meant
>>710546
I think that reflects the attitude of the time of trying to use China as the yardstick for everything.
This is by no means bad, in any way. It's just interesting. Then again, I might be more sympathetic to China due to my fetish for asian girls.
ITT: We analyse the theological beliefs found in popular media.
I'll start.
>The Legend of Korra is literally Nestorian.
Arslan Senki
>Lusitania uses vaguely christian symbols and a western medieval style of armor and weaponry but its actually basically muslims.
Harry Potter is incredibly gnostic.
>>709055
>but its actually basically muslims.
But it's not. The original story was written by Muslims.
How legit is Myers-Briggs and Jungian Psychology?
I just had mine done for school and it's eerie how similar I am to the stereotype of my mbti. Is there any good reads on how to function as a person with INTJ because I feel like a fucking autist.
>>708415
>Not being superior ENTP
>>708417
I agree, INTJ seems to suck dick. I googled some INTJ forums but everyone seemed like such an insufferable cunt.
>>708415
>How legit is Myers-Briggs and Jungian Psychology?
Not even a little bit. Even when it was fashionable, it was dismissed by academics. Now, 100 years later, only kooks pursue it. A lot of what is commonly called "New Age" mysticism is derived directly from Jung.
Is Hungary the most butthurt country about its territorial loses?
Argentina is butthurt about territory they never even owned.
>>707665
I don't live in Europe and I don't know any Hungarians so it's hard to say, but Mexicans like to complain about the territory they lost to the United States.
Sorta related question. Why is some people saying Versailles was unfair when Austria-Hungary got it alot worse? At least the germans kept most of their land.
Let's settle this shit.
Are they Christian?
>>705791
Yes they are Christian
They believe in Christ, therefore they are Christian.
they are polytheists
here's mine
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
I shall either find a way or make one
-Hannibal
>>705055
You're one large individual.
- Dr.Bane
I
>>705138
MUST
What happened to Britain after the Romans left? Why did the Island go from Romano-British to Anglo-Saxon?
>>703300
Britain experienced a series of migrations/invasions in the centuries following the Roman retreat. The Angles, Normans, Vikings, etc. all had their turn raping and pillaging the land. However, native Britons are probably still the majority ethnic group in the isles. The invasions had more cultural, rather than genetic, implications.
>>703312
this
the romano-british were basically dissipated through a series of barbarian pillages without the legions to protect their way of life in comparison to the native britons.
>>703312
>he invasions had more cultural, rather than genetic, implications.
But that's wrong
I'm starting to learn about the history of the Roman Empire but at the moment I don't really know where to start
I know the basics e.g. kingdom->republic->empire, the story of Julius Caesar, Constantine and the split etc, but besides that I am relatively ignorant
tl;dr explain Roman history to me like I'm five
>>701569
I'm trying to learn about the Romans too, can anyone recommend any books the gives a good overview before I study in greater detail?
>>701569
you seem to already have roman history as a five year old could retell it under your arm, what more do you want you greedy shitbag
go read about the punic wars or something
Is there anything more cringey than "ironic" "religions"?
>>700491
>Is there anything more cringey than "ironic" "religions"?
Sincere religions.
>>700512
*tip*
People who convert to Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy because of the aesthetic.
Ego linguam latinam disco sed ego amicos non habeo. Ego amicos cupio.
PREPARABIT TAURUM
Tu ad /pol/ revenis
>>687964
>implicans ullum participem hujus situs tenere amicos ullos
Praeterea:
>fans "ego"
Can we talk about modern Macedonia, seeing how its independence was about 25 years ago?
I am interested in the origin of the Macedonian people and nation, and that one is sure to be further in the past than the official country anyway.
>>742589
Well, after the WW2, Yugoslavia started to promote the idea of the uniqueness of the macedonian people and remove any bulgarian self-determination.
Although the said self-determination somewhat became diminished after the second balkan war and the ww 1.
As genetics go, the today macedonians are mainly of slavic descent mixed with what was left of the original population before 6th century.
As of today, they try to define themselves by separating from their neighbors as they are considered a thread to the macedonian identity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Pulevski
>that map
dumbest fucking shit i saw all day
![Jung-pipe[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lJuG5ii.jpg "Jung-pipe[1]")
![MapAD400[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WG7yBGp.jpg "MapAD400[1]")
