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I'm writing a novel set in Sub-Roman Britain. Would anyone here knowledgeable in Saxon or Romano-British culture be willing to help?
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>>1324669 (OP)
>Would anyone here knowledgeable in Saxon or Romano-British culture be willing to help?

British, roman and anglo-saxon culture were basically all the time. The standard narrative about britons being taken over by romans and adopting their culture, and then a foreign culture invading or settling and rising up is basically a misconception based on historical myths and legends. It was all the same people from britain to germania
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>>1324852

so basically with your story, you could tell it a bit differently to the status quo historical narrative by having roman-british culture being rooted in the neolithic rather then just the colony of a foreign invader, the anglo-saxons as kinsmen of british clans/tribes enlisted to defend briton after the collapse of rome, as they were roman military themselves
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>>1324669
There are very few sources for sub-roman Britain. If you want a rough picture try the Confessio or On the Ruin and Conquest of Britain

How were minorities other than black people(latinos,chinese hawaiians,etc) treated during the civil rights era? Did they have better treatment/rights than blacks?
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>>1324591
I once read this book on Mississipi Chinese immigrants. It shines an interesting take on the AmericChinks as they saw the discrimination on their asses as similar to what they had in China: class discrimination. Most Chinks who emigrated out of the dying Empire/shaky Republic were peasants and faced the same difficulties and discrimination back home.

So their solution for most problems was basically "upward mobility: keep working, they'll soon forget that we're shitty peasants."
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There was that Japanese chick who promoted Marxism and Black Nationalism so as to weaken the US so Japan could break free, remilitarize, and reestablish the East Asian Coprosperity Sphere under the Emperor (and fuck up China). I can't remember her name. She was on the Google page a few weeks or so ago.
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>>1324591
What an incredibly intelligent question. Such a rare occurrence on /his/. I don't know, but I look forward to the discussion.

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Melting pot, not a tossed salad. There are americanized versions of all cultures, including Islam. All cultures can get along I'm harmony if they respect the values of american freedom.
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>>1324324
in harmony
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>>1324324
Amen
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>>1324324

Unfortunately that isn't how it works

The US is a nation that constantly imports it lower class. Discrimination of an immigrant group ends when said group fits into the American definition of "white". The problem with this system is that some groups are never going to be "white" so while Irish and Italians manage to get away with it, everyone else is treated as perpetual foreigners. This create social unrest and leads to the creation of ethnic enclaves when all the nonwhite groups rightly believe that they have no stake in assimilation if acceptance is always off the table

American freedom doesn't mean shit when Americans don't adhere to it themselves

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What would life be like for those who live inside the Union if it was still existant today?
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>>1324300
i imagine if soviet union survived it would be like china today. state capitalist
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>>1324300
Look at Belarus, it's still a Soviet republic for all intents and purposes.
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>>1324300
why did you post a map of USSR partitioned between Germany and (a ridiculously big) Finland?

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Hero or villain?
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>>1324062
How about you tell us his fucking name
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>>1324063
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Kelly
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>>1324062
Retarded Aussie goes around in full shitty homemade armour and robs people in the Outback of Straya. He's my hero.

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>he thinks Zeitgeist was accurate in any way
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The Time Ghost is just a metaphor for the culture of a period, anon. It's not literally a ghost.
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>>1323655
Not sure if troll or stupidity.
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>>1323622

If you are talking about how the section on Christianity was inaccurate because they got some of the stuff about similarities with Egyptian mythology wrong it hardly makes a difference.

Its clear to anyone who looks into it that Christianity and Judaism were both just rip-offs of Zoroastrianism that resulted when a run-of-the-mill bronze age tribal/city cult came into contact with Persian Zoroastrians.

And when I say that I'm not even trying to denigrate those religions or say that they don't offer valuable teachings/lessons/insights etc but just because Zeitgeist is wrong on some parts doesn't change that the Abrahamic religions are basically fan-fiction.

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What's your opinion on this person?
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Served up a good batch Kool Aide I hear.
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>yfw he was right
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he was literally a crazy San Francisco SJW

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How come Japan get colonised by a European empire?

How come Japan industrialised so quickly?
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>>1323042
August 1945
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America opened the ports.

The "unfair treaties" weren't unfair to clans like the Satsuma or Japanese merchants who operated more or less tax free. Imports flooded into the country and Japan was already highly urbanized by pre-industrial standards so the economy adapted rapidly. No european power attempted to ban the transfer of technology or sale of high tech goods or capital goods (except the sale of arms, but even this had little effect), this is a myth stemming from the modern era's hysteria over racism which forces me to write the below disclaimer.

This can be contrasted with China which was in turmoil over the Taiping rebellion at the time. Some Chinese merchants became very wealthy, but it wasn't an ideal place for large capital investments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howqua

disclaimer: not saying colonialism was justified, technology could have transfered with or without it
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>>1323042
Which European country colonized Japan and when?

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What would you do with the power to turn back time?
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>>1322992
make sure they won
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>>1322992
Can't. No point dwelling on it.
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>>1322992
Win lottery and be a neet with a castle and a collection of very expensive cars

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Why didn't the Soviet Union incorporate into itself the post-WW2 Eastern Bloc states as SSRs? Is it solely because of Yalta?
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>>1322889
Because Stalin was a realist who understood putting numerous different peoples who don't speak the same language into a union is unworkable in everything from demdemograp harmony to language barriers.
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>>1322906

>putting numerous different peoples who don't speak the same language into a union

But the USSR was exactly that to begin with, fuck you talking about?
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>>1322910
Yes, and Stalin spent the entitity of his rule forcefully migrating people who looked like they were going to start shit. He worked within the parameters he was given.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_transfer_in_the_Soviet_Union

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How inaccurate is this?
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>>1322634

Pretty inaccurate.

In 1939, the American navy tonned equally with the RN and had, on average, more modern ships. With the naval treaties expiring, by the time it entered the war, it was well ahead of the RN in warships, and when the Essex class vessels came out, it wasn't even close. The claim that the RN was the best, or that the Americans couldn't defend their coastlines, is absurd.

Also, the Luftwaffe is pretty infamous, and the Americans did quite a bit to batter it down in the daylight raids from 42-44, while the Brits mostly bombed at night which had correspondingly fewer losses on either side of the air war.

Also, the Battle of the Atlantic was significantly impacted by American actions. Americans provided a lot of raw material and later Lend-Lease to the British. People talk about how much aid the Soviets got, but the Brits got almost 3 times as much as the USSR received. They also, even before officially entering the war, created an expanding security perimeter upon which they shot at German subs (although generally ineffectively)


The Middle East was not a big exporter of oil during the 40s. Rommel's orders were to hold Cyrenica to prevent an Italian collapse, deciding to conquer Egypt had nothing to do with seizing oil, and a lot to do with securing the med, as well as violating direct orders from his superiors in OKW. Rommel was actually a pretty shit general, at least at the job he was most famously assigned to.

He incredibly simplifies the North Afrtican campaign, but so do a lot of people. Oh, and at El Alamein, roughly 35% of Monty's tank force were American tanks, I'm not sure about planes, artillery, and other supplies.

Also, he totally ignores the American landings in Morocco (operation Torch) which is what forced Rommel to pull all the way back to Tunisia instead of making a shorter pullback into Libya and re-striking, the way he did after losing the battle in 1941, Crusader, that pic guy conveniently fails to mention.


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>>1322701


Military deaths being about 80% on the Eastern Front is a bit old these days, although most modern estimates put it to 70%; that's somewhat deceptive though, because

A) Most of the Luftwaffe losses were on the western Front.

B) The Western Allies did a lot more bypassing than the Soviets did. Bordeaux, troops in southern France, the stuff sent to the Balkans and Greece to stop invasions that never came, the 13 division in Norway, etc; the Western Allies forced the deployment of millions of troops who never saw combat, which are effective losses as far as the war is concerned.

D-Day wasn't America's "first day at war", they had been in North Africa since 42, and Italy since 1943, and had far more of the reserve troops ready to flow out once the beaches were secured.

Oh, and guess whose planes did most of the interdictive bombing so that the beachheads couldn't be easily reinforced or counterattacked at.

He also amusingly completely fails to mention Dragoon, the operation launched a month later, which was about 80% American and the remainder Free French.

CBI was a pretty small theater. It wasn't any bigger than the Solomon islands campaign. And the British barely deployed at all against the IJN, and when they did, they got crushed.

If his point is that Britain was an equal contributor to the war effort as America, quite frankly, he's wrong.
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>>1322705
>>1322701

Thanks.

So, /his/, how was Nazi Germany economy like? I know that the germans are generally associate with hard work and the like, but I heard that the Third Reich economic policy and administration was actually fairly inefficient, so does anyone can explain that to me?
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Bump for interest.
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This is a really good book on the aviation side of things, covering the fuckups and dumb ideas
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>>1322022

What Native American tribe was the most violent and why was it the Comanche?
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Aztec
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>>1321969
>tribe
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The Crow

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What do people think is the main motivation for building an empire.

Throughout the whole history of the human race, man has cooperated and conquered.

Clear motivations are:

>security of people
>wealth
>prestige

However to what degree does 'Prestige' or 'Imperium' influence a state or tribe to seek the means to colonise or build an empire.

Also to what degree does wealth come into it, yes it's very important and wealth was the reason more so as the seventeenth century endured, however wars are expensive and there's no guarantee of success.


Doing this topic for my dissertation at university. I'd be interested to hear all of your thoughts and opinions regarding this matter.
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OP here

I'll get the discussion rolling.

I think that after the Roman empire, a precedent was set that had spread across the known world, something to emulate and strive towards.

With the increase in naval technology, trade was increasingly profitable being able to exchange goods from places such as India in the seventeenth century.

Security of people whilst initially maybe, it greatly surpassed that. Britain in its efforts to maintain and expand their world-encompassing empire, had largely neglected it's citizens. Victorian London was rife with disease and unsanitary conditions, whilst the empire enjoyed it's most progressive era.
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Wealth. That's the story of every empire ever.

The elite get rich for a while, then eventually people fight back.
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>>1321931

What about Alexander the Great?

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Did Greeks checked Olympus for Zeus? Or it idea of mountain was the metaphorical one, like text of modern Bible?
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Nah, the Bible is to be interpreted literally. It was written by dumb nomadic sandnigs that couldn't even wash their own foreskin
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>>1321312
Holy shit, Why do actual illiterate people start so many threads asking idiotic questions?
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The gods could make themselve invisible. Did you even read the Odyssey? If the gods wanted you to see them you would see them even on Olympia.

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