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Who are your personal heroes, /his/?

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As a child I loved Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo, and I still do. I love both of them not only because of their works, but also because of their personalities. I admire Leonardo’s curiosity and his will to know everything and to master every topic (although it’s an impossible task*). As for Michelangelo, I love his extreme capacity for work, his endurance, his capacity of using his enormous egocentrism as fuel to his art (and not simply as a bitter fungus that would eat him up while he sat silently in the dark, as it happens to so many people).

As I grew up Shakespeare also became one of my heroes. He is one of the few people in history who was able to produce quality poetry. Most poems and poets (even a great number of famous ones) seem dull, especially in contrast to Shakespeare. I love his indulgence in rhetoric, his great love for language and his exuberance in using metaphors. No other poet is so fanatic for metaphors and colorful poetic imagery as Shakespeare is. I also like the way Shakespeare seemed to accept all human beings, taking interest in all sorts of people.

I don’t know much about music, but I always loved Beethoven. His works are sublime, and, although I like Bach, Mozart and Brahms, Beethoven remains my favorite. I also admire his strong personality and, like Michelangelo, his capacity for hard work. I love to see his many manuscripts and drafts, the hundreds of corrections he made while working: he modeled and remodeled his ideas several times, discarding many original concepts before he came to his final form. I deeply admire this man who, in spite of suffering a lot to really achieve what he wanted, simply kept moving forward, refusing to give up or to produce anything simpler than his colossal ideals.
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>>416233

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I also love Tolstoy. I think he is the greatest novelist and short-story writer of all time, but he is also an inspiration for me for the same reason as Michelangelo and Beethoven: an enormous capacity for work, and the magical chemistry of taming an unprecedented egocentrism and use it for the making of sublime art. Tolstoy was extremely proud, always paying attention on others, as if to compete with them, always trying to be the best at everything that he did, and constantly writing is his diaries the life-long struggles that he faced while trying to dissolve every single one of his defects and transform it in a virtue. Later in life his philosophical and religious views became so distorted by his huge appetite for fame and influence that he became boring at a lot of times, but the early and middle-aged Tolstoy has always been an inspiration for me: he was a powerhouse of a man, and a great example of how to face difficulties.

As for fiction, I love the Myamoto Musashi created by Takehico Inoue in his manga, Vagabond. I like to see a man who feels, like everyone feels, several stings and bites of weakness (fear, anxiety, laziness, lust, pride), but who manages to keep walking toward his goals in spite of this attacks. This work shows that the difference between strong people and weak people is not in the fact that the strong don’t feel fear, or laziness, etc., but that, although they feel this things, just like the weak person, they refuse to give in.
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>>416240

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*I must refuse some of the ideas that the general public have about Leonardo, stating that he was a botanist, and inventor, a mathematician, an anatomist, and other things. The fact that he made drawings of trees and flowers does not make him a botanist: he never catalogued species, or reasoned about their reproductive method, or imagined how their organisms work: he merely drew them – that’s not what a botanist is. As for anatomy, it is true that his drawings of the human body are sublime, some of the best ever made. However one must aknowledge that he worked with specialized people who helped him dissect the bodies, and that he had no insight about how the human body worked (nothing that was original for his own time, except some observation on one of the hearts valves). As for his inventions, many of them were simply fantastical drawings, works of the imagination that would never work on real life: they were reproduced in large scale, but they did not work. As for mathematics, he was actually pretty bad with arithmetic’s and did not have facility or a gift with this field. He was, however, more at home with geometry, although he did not contribute to any field of mathematic: he was a student of it, and not a very gifted one.

All of this, however, does not take away the merit of Leonardo’s deep curiosity, his enormous vigor for study and observation, his sublime art, his talent for drawing (he is one of the best, if not the best, draftsman in history) and some of his insights, like, for example, the tought that, since there were shell-fossils on the top of mountains, that soil should have been, sometime in the long forgotten past, under the waters.

As for Audrey Hepburn, she is (in my opinion) the most beautiful woman of all time.
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>>416233

Jesus and Hitler

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What do you think is most interesting thing in religions.
I need to write a paper on a specific religious topic, but I have trouble finding something really original which is also covered in academic writing.
I was first thinking about satanic groups or something, but maybe you can come up with something better.
Please do not come up with 'the role of women in *this religion*', thats not my thing.
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>>416119

I always thought that the most interesting thing about religions is how they often appropriate from older religions,and then perform incredible feats of pretzel logic to try to take what was obviously never meant to support the new position into saying that it does.

With often a side of bad translation.
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>>416119
I'm not the best person to ask, but I find the rise of monotheism interesting. Even without the abrahamic religions society was trending towards monotheistic ideals and the early monotheistic religions like mithraism, sol invictus, manichaeism etc. all developed at roughly the same time. Many of these religions have spiritual descendants today.
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>>416139
I could write a muchhh larger paper about that, but I need something more specific now. I can only use about 2500 words.

I know there is some religious group who praises an angel who went against god, but later came back to heaven. Now they are often compared with satanists, but i cant remember or find the name of that group....

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Is it true Jews and Muslims used to get along reasonably well until recently?
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>>416114
It's more complicated than that.
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>>416114
If you consider dhimmitude, were you have to pay a special tax for existing and do not have the right to defend yourself against people attacking you, getting along reasonably well, then yeah, they did.
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>>416114
Redpill me on E and S.
They look awesome

What would the Song Dynasty of China be like if the Jurchens didn't fuck them sideways and take the north for the Great Jin?
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Theyd be less fucked up I guess.
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>>416088
>generally more resources

>norther Chinese plain fertile for horse herding

>former Jin controlled area makes good wheat farming land

>in Jurchen homeland, tons of wild game and fish-rich waters

Basically they would have more resources and room for economic expansion which would push their industrialization a bit further and give them more leverage against the Mongols.

The Song might even end up surviving the full brunt of the Mongol horde.
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>>416088
Perhaps hitting the industrial revolution somewhere in the 1500s

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GOD TIER:
1. ATTLEE
2. CHURCHILL (FIRST TERM)
e. THATCHER :^)
3. BLAIR

DECENT TIER:
4. MACMILLAIN
5. WILSON (FIRST TERM)

MEH TIER:
90. CHURCHILL (SECOND TERM)
100. CAMERON
105. DOUGLAS-HOME
199. WILSON (SECOND TERM)
200. BROWN

OH SHIT M8 WHAT ARE YOU DOING TIER:
999999999999999999. MAJOR
9999999999999999999999997. CALLAGHAN
9999999999999999999999998. HEATH
9999999999999999999999999. EDEN
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>>415955
Can you provide sources and reasons for the rankings op?
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>Blair
O I am laffin
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>blair

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Countries with overrated histories

Pic related
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USA
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I always cringe a this threads massive anglophobia. Don't get me wrong, I'm not English and I hate the crumpet chewing traitor monkeys as you do but fuck me, they have done so much for the world if not more than your country whomever is posting.
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>>415968

what country has a comparable history?

>born out of rebellion
>instituted a form of democracy and capitalism that would be emulated worldwide
>ended the use of slaves
>pioneered science, engineering, and mathematics
>kickstarted worldwide modernization due to two industrial revolutions
>helped develop central america and south america with things like the panama canal
>saved the world in two different wars
>became a beacon of culture through entertainment, science, fashion, and city-planning

and that not even including the 21st century you pleb

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Can we all agree that Salafis are the scum of the planet? They are behind 99% of everything bad associated with Muslims
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>>415785
No arguments here, but lets lump in their non-Muslim masters and brethren.
>pic related
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>Can we all agree that Salafis are the scum of the planet?
Pretty much, yeah.

>They are behind 99% of everything bad associated with Muslims.
Also pretty much true, but most Muslims are generally not great either.
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>>415785
You forgot the Wahhabis.

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Death can't seriously be the end.. can it?

There's just no way. There has to be some sort of reincarnation, as reusing our consciousness is far more parsimonious than discarding it completely.
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>>415761
Do you remember what your life was like before you were born?

Death is like that
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>>415761
Oh, experiences will continue, as to what you think you are, it never existed to begin with
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You're misunderstanding what consciousness is.

>The actual is rational, and the rational is the actual
>The Whole alone is the True, and the True is the the Whole

What did he mean by these?
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>reading Hegel translations
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It's basically saying that when a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, it doesn't make a sound... and there's no tree. Or forest...
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>>415881
It isn't saying that at all, what is wrong with you?

Was Rome an Etruscan city that was overtaken by Latins or was it an independent non-Etruscan enclave that eventually overran its surroundings?
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According to what I know of the subject, the Etruscans traded with the Latins, and gave the Latins the alphabet that we use today, which came to the Etruscans from the Phoenicians.

Other than that, I don't really know. I guess you can imagine that there had to be some cultural overlap between the two peoples in order for them to start using their alphabet though.
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>>415549
iirc romans like other latins belonged to an Italic ethos that, at the time of your map, was dominated by Etruscan culture.
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Rome began as a refuge for bandits, brigands and people who became disenfranchised from their homes elsewhere. They stole Etruscan culture and women and eventually stole empires.

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Thoughts on this abomination /his/?

AIDS has provided a greater service to humanity than this channel.
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Hehehe nice one op! That piece of shit channel is a waste of fucking time. I'm here to talk about real history not lame aliens and hitler! At least we know better;)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the History Channel at one point respectable. Or was I just too young to know any better.
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>>415514
It was fine through the early 2000s tbqhwy. Not sure what changed but by 2010 it was definitely unwatchable. New producers or management?

Too much focus on WW2 by 200 but there were some great documentary series from that time, particularly "War of the Century" about the Eastern Front (although I think that was basically just a rebranded/redubbed BBC series).

Also they had some great stuff on the American Civil War in the 1990s and early 2000s.

What was al-Andalus like?
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The Umayyads wanted to be seen as intellectual rivals to the Abbasids, and Cordoba had libraries and educational institutions to rival Baghdad.

Many contributions were made in the fields of medicine (the field of surgery in particular), architecture, art, philosophy (Averroes, Abu al Wahid ibn Ruchd )

Christians who were executed deliberately courted martyrdom by publicly declaiming against Islam inside mosques and insulting Muhammad.
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>>415523
doesn't get rid of the fact that they had to go though
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>>415531
Why?

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Why did it take so long for USA to abolish slavery and why didnt they do it when they become independent?

It was something already frowned upon on Europe and it was the time when they started to abolished all over Europe and America, hell, it was one of the first thing the Spanish colonies did when they became independent.

I guess we could also ask why it took so long for Brazil.
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>>415459
What other country apart from the USA and Brazil had such a big region with an economy based on slavery? And at the same time was big and distant enough to resist external pressure to follow the abolitionist trend from (for example) the British Empire?
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>>415468
Dominican Republic is the biggest I can think of, and I can guess the whole West Indies, but then again it is part of UK.
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>>415459
Brazil didn't abolish slavery in 1871 precisely because they were afraid of a civil war breaking out after having watched what happened in the U.S.
Instead they agreed on a very slow process of abolition, involving laws that freed any new-born and old-aged slaves.

>nazis were good guys
>they dindu nuffin, they just wanted that lebensraum and defend the german volk
Are stormfags ironic or do they actually believe that crap? I can't see how anyone can be sympathetic to the nazis unless they're underage kids going through their edgy phase.
These guys murdered millions of people and planned to enslave millions more and they worship them.
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>>415433
>These guys murdered millions of people and planned to enslave millions more and they worship them.
Well make it equally as bad to worship the Soviets and Imperial British, which a lot of people still do, and they might see some sense.
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It's entirely possibly depending on what you've read.

Of course, you can always be intellectual dishonest with yourself and actively search for shit supporting your shit. But at the end of the day it's a matter of justification.

Someone who rarely read stuff contradicting his world-view and spend all their time on metapedia is perfectly justifiable to think that the nazis where the shit.
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I don't know which is worse, Naziboo or Commie boo.

Post righteous people from history.
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>>415289
>American revolutionaries
>Righteous

"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance."

I know of no new offices erected in America in the present reign, except those of the Commissioners of the Customs and their dependents. Five Commissioners were appointed, and four Surveyors General dismissed; perhaps fifteen to twenty clerks and under officers were necessary for this board more than the Surveyors had occasion for before: Land and tide waiters, weighers, etc. were known officers before; the Surveyors used to increase or lessen the number as the King’s service required, and the Commissioners have done no more. Thirty or forty additional officers in the whole Continent, are the Swarms which eat out the substance of the boasted number of three millions of people.
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>>415363
Fuck off britshit
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>>415390
Have an American tell you the truth instead, then :^)

https://radishmag.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/american-rebellion/

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