Historical events that no one talks about but influenced history more than people think.
I'll start.
Boshin war.
Just imagine how irrelevant Japan would have if the Shogunate won.
lol dis nigga must have had a bad time
>be imperial infantry
>get charged by tokugawa yari cavalry
>spear penetrates lower leg
>samurai pulls up spear
>you go up, feel several Gs, the pain of a spear in a highly sensitive part of the body
>cavalry continues to charge
>you get dragged arround the battefield because your foot is stuck to a spear
>people run over you, a horse steps on your elbow, knee gets shot, etc
rip in pepperoni
Iran-Iraq War. It set the stage for the 1990-91 Gulf War, radicalized the Iranian regime, relaunched Iran's nuclear program, and Western military presence in the Gulf was strengthened (navies guarding ships in the Gulf during the war, and Gulf monarchies negotiating big arms deals).
>>401088
The shogunate was not anti-modernization or anti-western.
vikings are the most overrated warriors in history
samurais come in at a close second
Why
They were great navigators and (slave) merchants, but yeah, they're militarily overrated. They basically just attacked defenseless monasteries and primitive Slavic tribes.
>>400900
Lump in ninjas with samurai and Varangians with vikings
Then:
Wehrmacht 1939-1941
US marines
Spartan hoplites
Underrated:
Polish winged hussars
Generally greek hoplites
Ghurkas
WW2 ANZAC
Napoleonic French Army
Who would be ruling East Russia? Manchu clans? Turkic tribes? Japan? Mongols? China?
>>400649
Probably whomever stopped the Russians from expanding East.
>>400649
I imagine the Japanese would expand into the more desolate areas that couldn't be fully claimed until the 1800s.
The less barren areas would probably be Part of China.
>>400649
This map is wrong. Estonia and Livonia were conquered by Russia in 1710~1721.
What explains the survival of provincial Latin in some places that eventually developped their own Romance language, but not elsewhere? Later peoples invaions? Differences in province organization/development?
Dalmatia and Pannonia for example were quite developped, and part of Rome for lot of time, while you got Dacia that Romans only held onto for less then 2 centuries. And still theres no Pannonian but theres Romanian.
Actually there was a separate Romance language in Pannonia back in the day, but it got wiped out by Magyars.
because the trojans were a lost tribe of dacians or somesuch, thus they all had more or less the same language
>>399784
Why is Romania not slavic
Like seriously who the fuck are they
How come this board is overwhelmingly Anti-Protestant?
What do you guys thing of the different sects (ie. Anglicanism, Lutheranism, Evangicalisn etc.)
>>399734
>How come this board is overwhelmingly Anti-Protestant?
Except it's overwhelmingly anti-papist
>"If thou, illustrious Prince, had informed thy subjects that thou wert coming to visit them at an unnamed time and had requested them to be prepared in white garments to meet thee on thy coming; what wouldst thou do, if, on arrival, thou shouldst find that instead of robing themselves in white they had occupied themselves in violent debate about thy person -- some insisting that thou wert in France, others that thou wert in Spain; some declaring that thou would come on horseback, others that thou would come by chariot; some holding that thou would come with great pomp, others that thou would come without train or following? And what especially wouldst thou say if they debated not only with words but with blows of fist and strokes of sword, and if some succeeded in killing and destroying others who differed from them? 'He will come on horseback.' 'No, he won't; he will come by chariot.' 'You lie.' 'No, I do not; you are the liar.' 'Take that' -- a blow with the fist. 'You take that' -- a sword-thrust through the body. O Prince, what would you think of such citizens? Christ asked us to put on the white robes of a pure and holy life, but what occupies our thought? We dispute not only of the way to Christ, but of His relation to God the Father, of the Trinity, of predestination, of free will, of the nature of God, of angels, of the condition of the soul after death, -- of a multitude of matters that are not essential for salvation, and matters, in fact, which never can be known until our hearts are pure, for they are things which must be spiritually perceived."
pretty much summarises how I feel about denominational infighting
Anglican was by far the best Protestant bunch, but then they started ordaining female clergy in the 1970's and went downhill. Now the American Church in Anglican communion (Episcopalians) as well as the Canadians, have gay marriage, and it is only a matter of time before the CoE does.
Lutheranism is awful. All except for a handful of holdouts (Church of Norway, for instance), a given Lutheran denomination is either creationist, or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bWHSpmXEJs
...That actually applies to Protestantism in general, actually.
By "evangelist", what do you mean? Fundamentalists?
>and then he said neurobiology has solved the hard problem of consciousness
>>399691
>and then he said """hard""" """"problem"""""""""of"""" """"consciousnes"""""
>>399712
m8 I think you're about to get a stroke.
>>399691
I don't know anybody who has said this, only people who are optimistic that in the future it will.
>Guys, biological animation will never be reduced to biochemisty and physical mechanics, organisms move because of chi!
Did the Ottomans contribute anything of value to the areas they conquered?
yep, they've built a train from turkey to medina, however, abdulaziz blew it up based on orders from britain.
>>399541
Hospitals, schools, bridges, roads, mosques, bridges.
Depends on which area you talking about.
In Hungary and Balkans:
Mosques, baths, some vital infrastrcutrue stuff.
Not much otherwise, and they destroyed lot of christian/medieval heritage.
What was life like for the average person in Nazi Germany?
Like the book 1984
>>399518
/thread
>>399472
Similar to any other european life. Exept they had modern health campaign such as "cigarettes are bad for your health ! Even the fuhrer stopped smoking" and of course anti jewish propaganda.
The common mistake is to believe germans were different from us in the way they handled their population.
Diabolisation of nazism is still strong nowadays but in fact even america liked the national socialism movement before the war.
If he hadn't been overthrown and killed, would he be regarded in a much more positive light à la Napoleon?
>>399125
Winning is always a good way to improve your reputation.
was there ever a technocrat with higher ideals who was regarded well afterwards? thats how high the chances for robespierre are.
Why were all Jacobins ugly motherfuckers?
The complexity of vedic Sanskrit literature suggests a large and highly organized civilization.
Areas of Hindu influence such as Angkor and Prambanan has magnificent structures, with similar designs suggesting there was once large structures in India from which they were modeled from.
How likely is it that the turbulent history of India including the Islamic invasion has erased traces of a grand civilization and temples?
>>399085
>The complexity of vedic Sanskrit literature suggests a large and highly organized civilization.
Well there's rarely an Indian Empire. Most of India's default existence in history consists of Culturally Similar yet Disimilar states fighting each other.
>>399103
I'm not talking about Medival India. I'm referring to the Vedic era.
Most pooinloos I meet online are nationalistic as shit, and defend that Vedic India was the greatest and most advanced place in the world, and had technology not found anywhere else.
Is this true to an extent, or are they just WE WUZ VEDAS?
>Agincourt actually happened
Are there any other historical events you find unbelievable even though they're true?
>>398402
>archers behind pikes pwning undisciplined knights
Not so unbelievable desu
Holocaust
>>398424
where the fuck did they get undisciplined knights?
what country has a comparable history?
>born out of rebellion
>instituted a form of democracy and capitalism that would be emulated worldwide
>ended the use of slaves
>pioneered science, engineering, and mathematics
>kickstarted worldwide modernization due to two industrial revolutions
>helped develop central america and south america with things like the panama canal
>saved the world in two different wars
>became a beacon of culture through entertainment, science, fashion, and city-planning
and that not even including the 21st century you pleb
>begins clapping
>born out of rebellion
>instituted a form of democracy and capitalism that would be emulated worldwide
>ended the use of slaves
>pioneered science, engineering, and mathematics
>kickstarted worldwide modernization due to two industrial revolutions
>helped develop central america and south america with things like the panama canal
>saved the world in two different wars
>became a beacon of culture through entertainment, science, fashion, and city-planning
>gets shot
>>398076
>>born out of rebellion
>>instituted a form of democracy and capitalism that would be emulated worldwide
>>ended the use of slaves
>>pioneered science, engineering, and mathematics
>helped develop central america and south america with things like the panama canal
>saved the world in two different wars
>became a beacon of culture through entertainment, science, fashion, and city-planning
Sounds like China.
Great achievements of your family thread.
My great grandfather sunk Blucher.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_cruiser_Blucher
My grandfather designed/invented the Penguin missile.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penguin_(missile)
My ancestor was the Templars Confanonier at the Battle of Montgisard
You know my father was at Waterloo. He got his colonelcy after that. And my great-grandfather, he was the johnny who knelt beside Wolfe at Quebec.
You make it sound like they did those things single-handedly.
Why are people from irrelevant countries like Poland, Norway, and Australia always so quick to be obligatorily patriotic about their irrelevant heritage.
What is the difference between soldiers and warriors?
>>397594
Nothing.
>>397594
Literally synonyms
>>397594
soldier is a profession, warrior is a more romantic idealistic based fighter. Not someone just doing it for the pay
Why were the Mongols so based?
Being savages yet staying united.
>>396279
good leadership and being dedicated fighters
>>396279
Because they are the exception.
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