ITT: High quality historical banter.
>>27904
I.e. Zaporozhian Cossacks: The Thread?
A saying goes that Vyshnevetsky after being tortured was thrown out of a high tower yet got his rib stuck on the hook from a wall (or he got hanged by the rib on the hook on purpose). He lived for three days after that, constantly loudly swearing at Turks and their faith. In the end someone got so offended at his sacrilege, he got shot dead from a bow.
>>27904
>"America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization."
Why did Germany attack France in WW1? Was it really because the French refused to declare their neutrality?
B8
Because the French had an alliance with Russia which could have meant a two front war.
An alliance signed exactly because of the fears of a German invasion, a very realistic fear given the war only a few decades back and aggressive Germany policies in the years leading up to WW1.
>>27882
Germany could never manage a two-front war against France and Russia so the plan was the swiftly knock France out of the game while Russia was still mobilizing, which would take a lot longer due to their infrastructure and organization being a few notches behind the other European powers.
>>27928
>aggressive Germany policies in the years leading up to WW1.
Can you give any examples? The balance of power that Bismarck established set the most peaceful and stable decades Europe had seen in a long time. If anyone was aggressive I'd say the revanchist French were, as they were still sour after the Franco-Prussian war. The Germans were unified, had acquired colonies, their industry was booming - they, if anyone, were content with their position.
Who was the most benevolent ruler in history?
The one in your pic, no doubt.
Literally gave everything for his country, encouraged free speech, national unity, ended slavery and was the most educated motherfucker on the western hemisphere.
Lee Kuan Yew, obviously. Despite being authoritarian, he always had Singapore's interests in mind. His legacy speaks for itself.
>>28174
>ended slavery
>ex-slaves can now work for wages
>ex-slaves can now buy things with their money
>the economy grows
>everyone benefits
Come again?
>>>/pol/
Why were the Belgians so evil?
>>27630
Money.
>>27630
they share a border with the Dutch
belgium isn't a real country
Can we have a Historical Arms and Armor thread?
ITT: Lets discuss prominent female contribution to herstory! Keep shitposting to a minimum.
THIS WEEK IN HERSTORY
NOV 2nd
On November 2, 1986, Norwegian distance runner Grete Waitz wins her eighth New York City marathon
Nov 3rd
On this day in 1976, Carrie, a horror film starring Sissy Spacek and based on Stephen King’s 1974 best-selling first novel, opens in theaters around the United States.
Nov 4th
On this day in 1842, struggling lawyer Abraham Lincoln marries Mary Anne Todd, a Kentucky native, at her sister’s home in Springfield, Illinois.
Nov 5th
On this day, columns by the 20-year-old Willa Cather begin appearing in the Nebraska State Journal.
On this day in 1977, 31-year-old future President George W. Bush marries 33-year-old Laura Welch at the First United Methodist Church in her hometown of Midland, Texas.
Nov 7th
On this day in 1916, Montana suffragist Jeannette Rankin is elected to the U.S. House of Representatives. She is the first woman in the history of the nation to win a seat in the federal Congress.
BIRTHDAYS:
Paige Hyland (15)
Aishwarya Rai Bachan (42)
Jenny McCarthy (43)
Selma Ergec (36)
>>27548
Nice one OP
>Keep shitposting to a minimum.
>>27548
>Keep shitposting to a minimum
It's kinda hard when thread is about shitposting.
Underrated Generals
Antony would have won if
1. Egypt didn't have a Malaria outbreak
2. The war was 100% land battles
>>27411
>Underrated Generals
Alternate History General
Won what? His right to make the roman people starve to death for the lulz?
They killed Caligula and he was really just a bit of a weirdo.
Sorry for le meme pic, but I was wondering about the historical accuracy of this depiction. Is it really fair to say that socialist ideologies have only ever failed due to external interference?
>>27402
I can only talk about Allende, but I can say he is a myth more than anything. He was weak and incompetent and caused his own ruin. He didn't had enough authority to stop the radical communist movements from terrorizing the common people, and that bited him in the ass at the end. Did you know that by the end of his goverment the food shortage was so bad there were the so called "Committees of Supply and Prices", that prioritized the members of the party over the rest of the people?
Now I'm not telling you that Pinochet was a godlike figure, but at least he saved the country from starvation.
>>27653
Thanks.
Anyone else?
>>27402
Not OP, but bump for interest
My political views have always been based around republican values. Values that held our great democracy to be the best possible government that we can aspire to. One that would protect our freedoms and allow ourselves to fulfill our lives. Of late though I have begun questioning these beliefs as America slowly circles the drain. I often wish that someone would take hold America drive home what we need. Abandon all republic tradition and process and just do what needs to be done. To take responsibility and make the tough calls that we so badly need. I see this reflected as America begins its search for a President. We want a strong leader, one that will lead us with both hands.
I wonder if it is all we've really ever wanted when it comes to government. Someone that they can stand behind and call their King or God or President or whatever. Someone that they can thank for getting them where they are address grievances with when they don't.
Humanity wants to be ruled by a strongman, we're just too afraid to admit.
So /his/, do you want an absolute ruler?
>inb4 Edgy
>inb4 Statist Scum
America isn't so much a nation as it is an Empire at this point. Nations, as per the Latin word, need a common root - And America is just a bunch of different racial tribes who increasingly hate one another. That's why you feel the need for an absolute leader, because Empires require absolute leaders, Republics only work with homogeneous populations. Not that the US was a Republic after later Presidents introduced mass democracy though.
What makes America so important? Why does it need to be powerful? I want a democracy and a country that doesn't shove it's nose where it isn't asked or needed
what does /his/ think about Dan Carliin/Hardcore History? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGT0cPukJ4o
An absolutely great, engaging, entertaining way of being introduced to a subject. It is genuinely fun.
However, people listen to it and take it as gospel.
inb4 >but he says he's not a historian!
That might be true but I feel it is a bit of a cop out, weasely behavior on his part. Like 'oh of course my work is sometimes wrong or not properly researched or purporting bad pseudohistory, after all I am not a historian!' you get the idea.
Still having said that it's great fun. Just don't go on the internet pretending you are an expert after listening to it.
>>27430
what is inaccurate?
>>27430
Can you actually point out major errors ?
ITT we talk about one of the most badass historical figures ever, the Cardinal de Richelieu. Multiple posts pasta incoming.
>This is the story of a badass, infamous, iron-fisted clergyman who served the French Royal House of Bourbon during the height of the seventeenth century and utterly demolished all enemies of France, both foreign and domestic – the notorious Armand-Jean du Plessis, better known to history and Three Musketeers novels as Cardinal Richelieu.
>>27179
>Armand-Jean du Plessis was born in 1585, the third son of a down-on-their-luck family of French aristocrats who were on the downswing of the “good old days”. Armand-Jean was skinny, not particularly strong, and got sick a lot, and from a very young age was forced to rely on his wits to stay on his feet.
His dad was a French soldier who got his ass killed during the Wars of Religion, leaving the family in crushing debt, financially ruined, and with little more than their manor and a hereditary title of Bishop of Lucon to their name. France, meanwhile, was also completely broke, and the recent assassination of King Henri IV meant that the country was now ruled in name only by a pre-teen King whose balls hadn’t dropped yet.
France was a feudal realm full of local medieval-style knights, Catholics and Protestants were murdering each other in the street on the regs, and the ancient enemies of France -- the hated Hapsburgs of Austria -- had powerful family members ruling over Prussia, Spain, and Italy… meaning that in addition to internal religious anarchy, France was also completely surrounded by pissed-off Germans that basically just wanted to kill all French people anywhere they could be found. Bitchin.
>>27216
I am physically excited.
Continue, wise bard. Regale us of stories of soldiers and Kings.
>>27216
The first time the phrase “the pen is mightier than the sword” appears in print is in a play written by Edward Bulwer-Lytton in 1839.
The words are being spoken by Cardinal Richelieu. Even though he may never have actually uttered the words in real life, the phrase fits, because without ever unsheathing a blade on the battlefield, fucking Armand-Jean du Plessis still managed to grind France into what would be the most dominant military, economic, and political force on the European continent for nearly a century.
By the time he was done, this sickly poor kid from the countryside would be known as L’Eminence Rouge – “The Red Eminence,” and people would be naming goddamn World War II battleships and Paris Metro stops after him.
Richelieu had two older brothers, but the eldest inherited the family manor and the middle bro decided he’d rather peace out and become a monk than have to wear one of those silly bishop’s hats.
Eager to do his duty to help out the family, Armand quit the military academy and resolved to become the most badass priest in the history of the Catholic Church. He was only 21 and technically wasn’t old enough to be a bishop, but it didn’t stop him – he traveled to Rome and convinced the Pope to appoint him Bishop of Lucon anyways.
DID THE HOLOCAUST REALLY HAPPEN?
While it may have happened, the numbers are HIGHLY exaggerated.
I'm pretty sure many here can accept that it did happen, but not at such an exaggerated scale. There were many other factors that lead to so many Jews being killed, and even then 6 million is a bit much.
>>27137
All history before 1970s was faked in order to control humans.
Is linear historical progress a myth?
linear? yes
progress? no
Yes, Marx just appropriated the ideas of Hegel (Historical Materialism).
Today's libtards just unconsciously channel it without really realizing that what they believe in is something that has ideological roots.
Progress in what? Technology? Mathematics? Science? Morality? 'Civilisation'?
Post em, /his/torians
>>/int
Prokudin-Gorskii was a genius, his photos quality is incredible considering they were made in 1911
Pic related is Alim Khan, last emir of Bukhara.
>In March 1918 activists of the Young Bukharan Movement (Yeni Bukharlylar) informed the Bolsheviks that the Bukharans were ready for the revolution and that the people were awaiting liberation. The Red Army marched to the gates of Bukhara and demanded that the emir surrender the city to the Young Bukharans. As Russian sources report, the emir responded by killing the Bolshevik delegation, along with several hundred Russian supporters of the Bolsheviks in Bukhara and the surrounding territories. The majority of Bukharans did not support an invasion and the ill-equipped and ill-disciplined Bolshevik army fled back to the Soviet stronghold at Tashkent.
Kek, shame it all went to shit regardless
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