Often times you will mention a Western male (usually white) bringing up a woman's tallness as her main point of beauty, and emphasizing the attraction of her slim figure (regardless of actual shape or composition) as her main point. When I look at old standards of beauty in Europe for centuries it was usually more shapely or bigger women. Why and how did it change?
Pic related. Though this is the late Victorian/Edwardian standard that emphasized the curves more than usual, but it still shows that curvy shapes in general we preferred even up to the 20's where erotica featured heftier or shapelier women.
I see the changes in the 70's but I'm not sure why. A lot of modern European men are repulsed by these bodies from the 50's and 60's glamor girls or not as interested.
>>479209
>tall skinny women
tall and skinny women shows that they do not need to store food, therefore they shows that they have the means to eat whenever they want, contrary to those peasants who are always fat in old age or if they do not work and skinny once they work hard to get food.
now, beauty and wealth are connected, with beauty attracting wealth and wealth attracting beauty. there fore, you have more beautiful women who are thin.
>>479228
That being said, working class beauty standards and middle/upper class standards have always been different. Can we really say all that has changed for the majority of women, especially when we get into non white communities where curves are still numero uno?
>>479303
>>479228
Women have always been more relatively fatter and less toned than men are. For some reason the media is really pushing thin woman-fat man married couples a lot. I'm not sure if this is worse than the past because it puts more pressure on the girl and says its okay for a guy to be a lazy slob and an idiot because "hey, women are better and smarter" hmm..
at least in the past women and men were both expected to look good ,and it was acknowledged women were plumper/weaker, not more athletic and taller like the media has been confusing us for the past 30-40 years
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Brothers and sisters, I am here to tell you that I charge the white man. I charge the white man with being the greatest murderer on earth. I charge the white man with being the greatest kidnapper on earth. There is no place in this world that this man can go and say he created peace and harmony. Everywhere he’s gone, he’s created havoc. Everywhere he’s gone, he’s created destruction.
So I charge him. I charge him with being the greates kidnapper on this earth! I charge him with being the greatest murderer on this earth! I charge him with being the greatest robber and enslaver on this earth! I charge the white man with being the greatest swine-eater on this earth. The greatest drunkard on this earth! He can’t deny the charges! You can’t deny the charges! We’re the living proof *of* those charges! You and I are the proof.
You’re not an American, you are the victim of America. You didn’t have a choice coming over here. He didn’t say, “Black man, black woman, come on over and help me build America”. He said, “Nigger, get down in the bottom of that boat and I’m taking you over there to help me build America”. Being born here does not make you an American. I am not an American, you are not an American. You are one of the 22 million black people who are the *victims* of America.
You and I, we’ve never see any democracy. We didn’t see any… democracy on the-the cotton fields of Georgia, wasn’t no democracy down there. We didn’t see any democracy. We didn’t see any democracy on the streets of Harlem or on the streets of Brooklyn or on the streets of Detroit or Chicago. Ain’t no democracy down there. No, we’ve never seem democracy! All we’ve seen is hypocrisy! We don’t see any American Dream. We’ve experienced only the American Nightmare!"
— Malcolm X
Where is the reverence *my* cause deserves to be paid?
>>486376
Yeah Malcolm X was pretty dope, desu
>>486376
And now American blacks have experienced the exact same legal rights and even a preferable status by institutions for decades.
Yet the problems seem to persist.
Is quoting Malcom X truly relevant in modern society? Could he honestly hold those same views in 2015?
Why were Bosnia and Albania so effectively converted to Islam while the rest of the balkan countries conquered by the Ottomans weren't?
>>481271
Your mistake is taking peoples' will as an object and not a subject. Bosnians and Albanians were -not- converted to Islam: They converted to Islam
>>481289
Fair enough, but still, why?
>>481300
Benefits
Why aren't you reading the best philosophical work of this century?
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http://mundusmillennialis.com/
tl;dr
Attila the Hun was born in Hungary
Germanic tribes had an empire in north africa
>>469393
>Germanic tribes had an empire in north africa
yea, a little piece if land that can only fit like 12 people
>>469393
the vikings were one of the most feared warriors in their time, roman and arab scholars praised their tactics, weaponry, and heart. It took the combined forces of the brits, the french, and the italians to stop them
If you're under the impression of germanic tribes as "white people" having a,
>empire
in north Africa, you're sorely mistaken.
Was this genocide even avoidable? The two continents were going to meet at some point. Would it have been better or worse for the Native Americans if the Asians had landed on the west coast?
>>485099
Native americans having a shitty immune system does not constitute a genocide.
>the biggest genocide in human history didn't occur in Nazi Germany
I'm glad that they are at least aware of how blown out of proportion that genocide actually is
The only way to avoid it would have been if the encounter with other continents didn't happen until modern vaccines were developed. And even then, I am fairly sure nobody who met the Azteks would have just let them be.
Fill me in on why this book is shit /his/
A cookie cutter anti-euro opinion piece. With that being said it really isn't "Shit" but rather a book no one with an already defined history knowledge should bat an eye to.I wouldn't recommend it regardless.
>>484959
I've heard arguments that it's pro-euro. Basically reducing colonialism to a deterministic process instead of a violent conquest
>>484991
Not completely, but it is referenced to. But it's essentially an anti-euro bias. Especially when talking about "The Old World."
“Not until the beginning of the 20th century did Europe's urban populations finally become self-sustaining: before then, constant immigration of healthy peasants from the countryside was necessary to make up for the constant deaths of city dwellers from crowd diseases.”
Does anyone else find it so strange that women (~half the population at any given time) have such a small role in a non-feminist reading of history? I don't mean to sound like an SJW or something, but it borders on the unnatural
Of course maybe it's because we focus too much on Great Men, but even from a broader perspective, you don't get many females. Can anyone hazard a guess as to why this is the case?
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>>483410
Because women weren't pressured to pursue greatness. There weren't any expectations for women throughout history to achieve something big. All such pressures must come from within, and therefore any female that has attained greatness are all excellent, such as Noether and Mirzakhani.
Feminism thus must encourage women to introspect such that they can realize and actualize their own greatness, instead of extrospect and blame the lack of female representation in industry on the strawman that is patriarchy.
Historically, women haven't exactly had the most praiseworthy of roles in society. Until the development of modern Western civilizations, women have generally been viewed as child-bearers and housekeepers.
Historically, women haven't exactly had the most praiseworthy of roles in society. Until the development of modern Western civilizations, women have generally been viewed as child-bearers and housekeepers. There shouldn't be any excuse going forward.
Top 5 greatest generals
1. Caesar
>greatest general of the greatest empire in history
2. Alexander the Greek
>conquered all the relevant world of his time + remained undefeated
3. Napoleon
>conquered all the relevant world of his time but defeated at the end
4. Gengis Khan
>conquered mostly nothingness but on such a huge scale he deserves his place up there
5. Robert R. Lee
>stood up for his rights
Lee never stood behind slavery; he only fought for the Confederacy as a loyal Virginian, defending his homestate.
>>480428
>Alexander not first
even Caesar was an alexboo
Where is Scipio?
Is the Irish famine considered a genocide?
To my understanding only the irish call it a genocide. Everyone else calls it the irish potato famine.
>>479804
Didn't the British government contine to export food from Ireland through the entirety of the famine?
>>479815
Yes. From what ive read they even had military escorts to make sure starving people wouldnt attack the shipments. Usually when theres a famine in a country they ban exporting food. Of course during the famine no such ban was put because the merchants were being whiny about profits.
Hostorical "War is Hell" pictures thread
Keep pol and other bullshit out
>>475971
why have so many cultures and religions thoughout history hated gays? is there something we dont know?
>>482715
Most haven't really had any conception of "the gays" as we understand them.
>>482715
Fags are disgusting. Those cultures were correct. But liberals refuse to consider that they might have been right.
Its because of abrahamic religions
Outside of them its not a big deal or its more ambigious
Why this man's vision of a united and free South America ultimately fail?
It hasn't been long enough for that to fail
Because everyone was busy staring at his engorged wang?
Local oligarchies didn't want to share their power
What's the earliest account of women on the battlefield? What was their role?
>>480361
Whores
Your mom in the battle of Salamis. She was used as cushion for the boat-pushing
There's multiple mentions of female warriors in pagan literature, such as the Celtic and Norse works
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