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i dont understand the theistic chatter about " objective morality "

a typical atheistic definition of morality is for example " moral is that which intends to reduce overall harm"

so a moral action can be true with respect to that goal

but i dont get what that word "objectively true " confirms if you attribute it to theistic morality

the answer its objectively true because it reflects the nature of god seems to be a tautological nonanswer that doesnt add any content to morality

morality seems to lose its meaning...
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>sophistry is sophistry

You don't say
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>>1383080
Things are objectively true whether you believe them to be true or not.
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>>1383095
yeah my questions is what it means to be " true " in the moral sense

on the atheistic perspective its true or good to act in ways that reduce harm for example but i dont see something similar on the theistic side

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>Christianity owes more to Greek mystery religions than Judaism in terms of its theological concepts.


Agree or disagree, and why?
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Disagree, its core is the absolute division between good and evil and the end times scenario, which are two themes that were specifically developed in the Middle East
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Where is the evidence for these greek mystery religions
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>>1382692
If you stick to Catholicism/Orthodoxy, yes.

But if you go protestant, you subscribe yourself to the full desertnigger origins of Christianity.

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Was it just a meme weapon?
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Sure you could call it that.
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>>1382637
Nah it had a meme blade but the grip wasn't exactly memey imo
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>>1382637
If I recall correctly it was made strong with smart techniques they applied to their shit metal resources. It was good for them, but not anyone else.

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Why is the political system of Roman Republic so complex ?

Can someone explain it in a more simple way ? How did it work ?
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>>1382553
its not its simple
turn out in centric spiral and mine all the gold along the way
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>>1382553
like a big crop harvester
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>>1382553
No it really can't be simplified it was really a mess and changed alot. That isn't even considering that by the late republic what the law said was often very different than reality. Hell even the emporers were really treated as such until the end of the third century. It really was a mess.

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The samurai era in Japan, specially during the Kamakura Bakufu period, was the height of human civilization as we know it.

In no other place or point in history, has mankind developed such a refined sense of honor, loyalty and self sacrifice. There's also a whole artistic and humanistic movement that towers over the so called renaissance period.

A samurai warrior was not only a master of the sword (katana), but he was skilled in the bow, hand to hand combat, and well versed in poetry and religion. The samurai armor provided protection but also movility. An...
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>>1382520
>bait thread
Regardless, gaijin and gun powder showed up after the Sengoku Jidai had already begun. Go be a weeb faggot on /jp/ or literally anywhere else.
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>>1382520
Yeah, Samurai may be the supreme god warrior. But stop trolling and contribute something interesting to the board.
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>>1382520

>The samurai era in Japan, specially during the Kamakura Bakufu period, was the height of human civilization as we know it.
No. Not even close.
>In no other place or point in history, has mankind developed such a refined sense of honor, loyalty and self sacrifice. There's also a whole artistic and humanistic movement that towers over the so called renaissance period.
I'm sorry what?
>A samurai warrior was not...
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Question to the Muslims of /his/:

If you could program a Burqa with a generic robotic face that mimicked the expressions of the wearer, would that satisfy whatever fucking part of your religion that says women can't show their face to men?
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>>1381923
That sounds terrifying, why would you do that? I'd prefer pic related over that

Anyway there's nothing to say that she can't show her face, it's just that some societies take the need for modesty to an extreme level
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>>1381937
I always found that cloth way too creepy desu.
I'd prefer seeing that robotic face than this shit.
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>>1381923
>Robots

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Can we discuss the morality of usury? I know the advantages argued for it, but let's also consider the disadvantages: would things like houses and cars be so expensive if they couldn't be bought on credit (especially the cost of housing raised by ambitions landlords and speculators)? Consumer goods as well are probably made more expensive by credit cards. All these things are probably more expensive because credit makes people more likely to pay for more expensive things. It's gotten to the point where you must take on debt to even get by, for if you don't start early, you will not have a good credit rating and can't afford life's necessities. None of this even touches on our retirement system, which is eroding the pension system in favor of an usurious system.

The Orthodox Church condemns usury

>Not only in Psalm 15:5 is this teaching found. It is a fundamental principle throughout the Word of God. In Exodus (22:25), Leviticus (25:37), and Deuteronomy (23:19) the charging of interest on loans is forbidden. Prophets like Ezekiel (18:13, 22:12) thundered against usury. Charging interest is clearly and strictly forbidden by God.
http://holytrinity-lansing.org/index.php/news/102/109/The-Sin-We-Stopped-Feeling-Sorry-For/d,betterDetails.htm

>Business expectations in lending, often ghostly becomes more profitable than the production of tangible goods. In this regard, it must be remembered about the moral ambiguity of the situation, when money is "make" new money without the application of human labor. Declaring credit sphere to be the main engine of the economy, its predominance over the real economic sector comes into conflict with the moral principles, reveled by God condemning usury.
http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/93828.htm

cont
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>>1381880
>Debt is usury and usury is enslavement, and enslavement is always a source of evil. Therefore, debt is always to be avoided as far as possible; at best it can only be a temporary necessary evil. Usury was and is forbidden by the Church. Catholicism, which for many centuries kept much of the heritage of the Church from the first millennium, forbade usury until the late 18th century.

http://www.events.orthodoxengland.org.uk/tag/usury/

>Dmitri Lubomudrov,...
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>>1381881
in fact Catholicism prohibited usury. Thomas of Aquinas wrote some brilliant pages about it.
Islam prohibits usury as well, that is why there are Islamic bonds and Islamic banking according to Shariah states that the bank and the user must share the same % of risk.
pretty cool if you ask me
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Good fucking luck competing in a modern marketplace without it. Polities don't survive on morals.

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Do you guys have any interesting bits of family history that you know of?. My grandmother recently emailed me and interview of my great great grandfather who fought in WWII. He had a very interesting story. I'll post the news paper article in segments if you guys are interested. Pic related is him and his award. Feel free to post your own stories in the thread.
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>>1381341

I have some stories, just stating this as a bumb so the thread gets more attentíon before we put effort into typing.
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Nazi Germany certainly has these really mysterious things about it where we might not ever get a real answer, and that makes it really interesting to me.

Obviously Hitler had a lot of grand plans, such as those Super-heavy tanks, the Maus, and those planned land-ships that would have carried battleship guns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1000_Ratte

But I'm pretty vague on the details on a lot of stuff. Didn't Hitler have this huge future construction project to completely remake Berlin, or something like that?

How about Project...
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Soviets were also strange
They had a massive secret military base in Kazakhstan with the form of a satanic pentagram
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They were trying to restore the glory of the Roman Empire in Europe.

In the context of the hidden occult aspect of the Nazi intelligentsia, they were engaged in the New Age pseudo religion Theosophy, which was created in the late 1800's and designed to reconcile a religious narrative with the emerging concepts of Darwinian evolution and wove a mythohistoric antediluvian prehistory of the world centered around the lost continent of Atlantis. The Nazis claimed to be in psychic communion with the ancient Aryan super race of Atlantis, who colonized northern Europe and...
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>>1381291
People don't like to talk about it, but Satanism has been extremely prevalent in high ranking military figures throughout the 19th and 20th centuries. People always scoff at these notions like they're just crazy, but a man who's at that high of a level of society with so much power and influence would absolutely be drawn to the ideas of various Satanic ideologies.

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Anyone know where I could find a full transcript or recording of the 1934 debate between Huey Long (U.S. Senator and former Governor of Louisiana, and founder of the short-lived Share Our Wealth program) and Norman Thomas (leader of the Socialist Party of America)?
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>>1381213

Huey P. Long was killed by FDR before the election to make sure that America would fight for Judeo-Communism and against the Third Reich.
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>>1381238
I don't about that, but I agree that there were plenty of people at the federal level who WOULD have done something like that if it came to it, if someone else hadn't got to him first. And I agree that the United States would have been somewhat less likely to have entered the European war if he'd lived to become president, or at any rate, it would have been handled very differently.

No knowledge on any sauce for that debate, then?
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>you will never go back in time and save him

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Find a flaw.

>pro-tip: you can't
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>>1380451
He has slanted eyes and looks like a turko-Mongol much like Himmler.

Also

>open borders will now usher an utter destruction of the western world because if you don't give welfare non-whites will not come in mass

Guess what they will come anyway because even without gibs white societies are still infinitely better than everything they have and/or will ever achieve. Plus ficki ficki
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>>1380645
>He has slanted eyes and looks like a turko-Mongol much like Himmler.

This.
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>>1380645
I obviously meant a find a flaw in his work/theories. Literally perfect.

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How could anyone be so wrong?
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That isn't Voltaire.
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>>1379718
Care to elaborate without resorting to Voltaire-tier primitivism slander?
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>>1379846
>guise we're all just good people its the government and capitalism that makes us bad

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>The School of Life
Must be mentioned of course. They have good entry level YT-videos on philosophy, art, psychology, etc. Very simplified and somewhat cult-like, but a good starting point nevertheless.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwxNMb28XmpdJpJzF2YRBnfmOva0HE0ZI

>Three Minute Philosophy
Funny Australian guy using MS paint to shittalk about philosophers general concepts.
https://www.youtube.com/user/CollegeBinary/videos?sort=p&view=0&flow=grid

>Power...
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>>1379383
I'll stick with binge reading a high diversity of books, thank you very much.
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>>1379383
>The School of Life
Consider suicide
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Google Arts & Culture

Wikiwand

Why the hell did they not lie down?
You're a smaller target and harder to spot

Or atleast have carts with them filled with sandbags they could deploy...
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Do you have 10feet long arms
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>>1379279
Those things are really god damn hard to reload while laying down.

It wasn't until the Prussians invented the needlegun that you were able to properly reload while prone, which is why they so decimated the French in the Franco-Prussian war.
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>>1379279
Sounds like something a faggot from Genoa or Milan might say.

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Guts' Golden Age helmet. I'm curious on what it's based on as well.

[spoiler] Stealth armour thread? [/spoiler]
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>>1379232
I hope you don't mind getting stabbed in the face.
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>>1379288
He only did lose an eye when he wasn't wearing it.
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It's a galea with a visor. It was probably made up.

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