Sassanians and Romans sometimes collaborated to fight against the nomads of the North. In fact, sources tell us how at least one of the causes of war between both empires could be disagreement on this matter.
With the death of Khosraw II, the end of the last war and the rise of the Rashidun Caliphate, persians and romans had now another common enemy. Yet in the few battles of muslim expansion I've heard about the arabs fight either persians or romans, not both. Did the two empires try to collaborate to defeat the arabs? Are there famous battles were both persians and romans fought against the muslim expansion? Did it work or were they defeated too when collaborating?
I'm interested too, so bump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Firaz
>>345158
Neat. Was this the only one?
Can we have a thread on the ancient ancient world? Like Sumer, Phoenicia, Assyria, Scythians etc.
Some questions to consider:
Was Sumer really the first civilization?
How did the specialization of labor take place? What was early human trade like?
What type of armor and weapons did ancient ancient warriors use?
When did horseback riding begin?
Was anything else going on in the world, or was the middle east the only place civilization was taking place? Surely something was happening in China during this time period.
Additionally, when did civilization arrive in Europe? In Africa? In the New World?
>>345069
>when did civilization arrive in Europe?
Minoans
>>345329
ebin post.
I bought this, did I fuck up?
>>345027
>"I loved it." -- Niall 'dicks in my mouth' Ferguson
It's not looking good, OP.
>>345027
I have no idea what this is, but
>Niall Ferguson
>>345055
Is Milhouse a meme yet?
Hey /his/
I was wondering if someone could translate this, I have no clue what language it is in, I am assuming it is the Archangel Michael, but I am unsure.
Thanks.
>>344973
It's old Slavonic, which is still used in most East-European Countries.
In Russian, it would be "cвятoй мyчeник Apхaнгeл Гaвpиил"
= Saint Martyr Archangel George
>>345004
in most East European Church iconography, that is; not spoken language.*
>Hitler was a master politician
LOL
Damn, if it wasn't for artillery's miscalculatons that damn thing could have failed
>>344862
>poland
que?
>>344884
Soldiers from occupied countries led by the Americans and Brits. There were Norwegian soldiers fighting in the pacific for the Americans.
Sup /his/? I find myself interested in the history of alcohol consumption among Muslims.
Alcohol consumption strikes me as one of the unifying elements of human civilization. From what I understand, virtually every culture and era of history has enjoyed the pleasures of a few drinks. But as we all know, alcohol is forbidden in the Islamic religion. However, I've read a bit about moonshining in contemporary Islamic nations, and of course we should all be well aware that just because something is prohibited by religious doctrine doesn't mean that followers will actually obey.
So if any of you could enlighten me about the presence (or lack thereof) of alcohol in Islamic civilizations throughout history, I would appreciate it.
>>344553
The ones in Al-Andalus liked to get shit-faced on whine.
>>344553
The only Somalis who drink wine are those decadent Djiboutians.
The French are never good news
Post the gods of your pantheon and tell us about them.
>Pic related is Shango, from the Yoruba pantheon.
>God of thunder, lightning and fire.
>He was a human king and after his death, he became a god.
>He can breath fire and cast lightning from his war axe.
I don't worship any single pantheon (with polytheism, what's the point of limiting yourself?), but I really like this depiction of Zeus. I prefer my Gods to look a bit more inhuman than most, and I think the image really hammers home the power and majesty of the King of the Gods.
Shango is Patrician tier though, as are most of the Yoruba pantheon.
Bumping to start a conversation of polytheology. So, how do y'all view the Gods? Do you see Gods with similar functions as being the same being (i.e. Zeus and Thor are both a single thunder God being experienced through different cultural lenses)? Or do you think all Gods are their own independent entities? Or something in between?
>>344396
>shango
>Orisha
>Yoruba
>Not being in the superior Palo
ATR Newfag please go
What would America be like if they never rebelled against Britain and gained independence?
Probably not much different than today. It would have become fully self-governing before long in any case.
>>344394
I have a question.
Did the concept of manifest destiny exist during the empire?
If so would it be reasonable to say that the expansion would have happened at a delayed rate, and as such other colonies may have thrived outside the borders of those original 13 colonies?
>>344394
I would think they would be related to Europe to a certain extent. We wouldn't have independence from British laws and rules.
What is /his/' answer?
People are not good nor evil at birth. They're just infants. Almost everything they do is because of the enviroment.
what do you even mean by evil
>>344243
It's not who you are, but what you do that defines you.
![112%20Arab%20Islamic%20Caliphate%20Expansion%20Eras%20632-750%20Map[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/A7wJWVh.jpg "112%20Arab%20Islamic%20Caliphate%20Expansion%20Eras%20632-750%20Map[1]")
How numerous were arabs at the time of their expensions ? How did arab tribes living in the desert outnumber the big empire at the time ?
Also if they zerged the middle east i can understand that they would just mix with local and change them into arabs after a few generations, but if they were less numerous than the locals they should be the one to be assimilated
Hope i was clear
>>344050
You can actually aculturate dominated peoples. That was Arabs did in the North Africa for example.
>How did arab tribes living in the desert outnumber the big empire at the time ?
Justinian plague
It killed over 50 million inbetween both empires which was a lot since the overall world population was estimated at around 200 million back then by different historians.
Also, Rome and Persia had been fighting each other on and off for almost 700 years which gave them little to no time to rebuild their numbers.
Especially the Sassanids, who didnt use a standing army but trusted border security/warfare to noblelords and their vassals.
>>344050
I think about 100,000 expanded out of Arabia, newly united.
They became the new upper class elite in the societies they conquered, so the natives changed their culture to the new rulers, not the other way around. Kind of like the Saxon invasion of Britain, if you become the dominant class, people will change to you, if you emigrate and are at the bottom, you will change to the society.
Do you push fatty in the way and save the 5, or let fatty live and kill the 5?
A fat person wouldn't stop a trolly in time. That'd be six deaths.
>>343997
just as planned
>>343945
The answer is always multi-track drifting.
What are some of the better arguments against Platonic and Aristotelian philosophy?
inb4 muh teeth
>muh essence of things
>muh forms
Literal garbage philosophy if you actually read all the way up to now. Things don't have essencez n shitz.
There is none, Plato got everything right. Retards can't even understand forms and want to say shit, kill yourselves them you dumbfucks lol.
>>343927
World of forms might actually be one of the worst philosophical ideas ever.
Most of the West thinks there is absolutely nothing worth preserving in the so called Muslim world and they should all be properly civilized.
I'm sure this is a normal point of view and many civilizations in history thought the same of their opponents. Yet after they obliterated them completely, future generations felt nostalgic and attracted to long lost civilizations. Will the Muslim civilization be one of them after we build fast food chains and start digging oil from Aleppo to Islamabad and everybody starts speaking English, French or Russian?
>>343598
>Most of the West thinks there is absolutely nothing worth preserving in the so called Muslim world and they should all be properly civilized.
Who, like /pol/?
Most of the west would be angry at israel if they decided to blow up the Dome tomorrow.
>>343613
>implying
>>343613
Do you have a source for any of your claims?
How did the battles between two groups of pikemen looked like? Were there some people trying to flank them while the pikemen were poking each other or was it just a huge pokefest?
>>343265
a lot of guys trying to stick other guys with their pointy end.
now that I think about it, it sounds awfully homoerotic
>>343265
Are yuo me? I was just looking up the concepts of "push of pike" and "bad war"
Anyway, here's some things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTYuYxmICGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbhANeJL_T4
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/22lrkx/push_of_pike/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2yw9qv/what_happens_when_a_renaissance_pike_square/
>>343265
>swiss
Those are moors m9
My history teacher in high school said that the CIA introduced drug culture to alienate young people. From 0 to 10, how true is this?
Also, do we have any accounts of a government deliberately trying to make people stupid? Not like a socialist country imposing values of communism on it's people, that's sort of a assimilation to the government's values. I mean like a government literally trying to make people stupid because it's better that way.
>>343173
X tier. That's some tinfoil hat nibimaru shit man
China has banned foreign media in vietnam since 40 or so years ago.
Drugs probably rise up rural areas were cops have little funding. I know one farming village in michigan where nearly everybody smokes pot and hunts out of season, it's like a state trooper feeding ground.
Well they did introduce a lot of shit. They smuggled drugs in to the US, tried drugs on people all over Europe and in the US as well then studied said peoples behaviour.
