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let me start
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This guy: >>1126970
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This guy. Also Yeltsin.

I'm not sure which is the bigger faggot.

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Does Christianity/Judaism allow for the existence of other Gods?

*The plurality of Gods is directly stated in Genesis when it says the Gods descended to earth and had children with mortals. Because it uses the plural "Gods" this means there must be more than one God.

*God never really denies that other Gods exist, just that you should not worship them.

*Dead Sea Scrolls outright mention other Gods existing and being in a relationship with Yawheh.

*Hellenistic Jews even thought it was ok to "venerate" Greek Gods as long as you did not worship them.
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Who cares?
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>>1126567

Apparently OP does.
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>>1126562
>*The plurality of Gods is directly stated in Genesis when it says the Gods descended to earth and had children with mortals. Because it uses the plural "Gods" this means there must be more than one God.

isn't is "sons of God" not just Gods?

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Why is everyone so obsessed with Hitler/Nazis?

I'm not just referring to /pol/ fags. Everything seems to be obsessed with the nazis.
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>>1126386
Literally memes, even before the Internet
They’re the big bad guys with funny habits that everyone knows about
Same thing with the Soviets, but it never got quite to the same extent
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>>1126386
last time i checked a world war was a pretty big deal
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it's cool to have a meme of evil, you know.

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Hey there, would anyone suggest any books or articles regarding the Mesoamerican countries? Including Mays, Aztecs, Inks etc.
It would be nice to find out how these people have lived over the centuries.

Thank you!
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>>1126326

Have you tried Google?
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>>1126326
I think you will be very hard pressed to find any actual reliable first hand sources on the subject. I am also bumping for interest though.
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Guns, Germs and Steel

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How did Russia and Japan feel about being on the same side during World War 1 after having just fought each other in the Russo-Japanese war?
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anyone?
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The same way the Britts could ally with their old rival I suppose and France could ally with their old Rival England.
Germany was pretty good at making enemies turn into friends, got to give them that.
And Japan really didn't do much at all through the way, the most I know of was taking the German Pacific Islands.
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>>1126013
Probably uneasy. Everything that Japan has done seems to be for its own gain and nothing else.
>Go to war with Russia
>Go to war with Germany
>Go to war with China
>Cry like a bitch when Russia still has islands north of Japan taken in WW2

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https://www.newscientist.com/article/2087924-world-war-zero-brought-down-mystery-civilisation-of-sea-people/

>The Trojan War was a grander event than even Homer would have us believe. The famous conflict may have been one of the final acts in what one archaeologist has controversially dubbed “World War Zero” – an event he claims brought the eastern Mediterranean Bronze Age world crashing down 3200 years ago.

>And the catalyst for the war? A mysterious and arguably powerful civilisation almost entirely overlooked by archaeologists: the Luwians.

>By the second millennium BC, civilisation had taken hold throughout the eastern Mediterranean. The Egyptian New Kingdom coexisted with the Hittites of central Anatolia and the Mycenaeans of mainland Greece, among others.

>In little more than a single generation, they had all collapsed. Was the culprit climate change? Some sort of earthquake storm? Social unrest? Archaeologists can’t seem to agree.
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>pop his
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>>1125814
Pretty good game
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>>1125814
I think the article is wrong about Troy and the Luwians being the origin of the sea peoples. and of the Trojan war itself. Like a bad egg, that theory just doesn't sit well with me.

But it is reasonable to think that the Mycenean civilisation collapsed shortly after the time of the Trojan War, with the war being placed at 1210-1180BC, and the destruction of the Greek cities happening around 1180. The rest of Eastern Mediterranean civilisations were destroyed shortly thereafter, yes; from Anatolia to Syria and Canaan, toppling like dominos. Pic related, unlike the OP (what is Indiana Jones to do with it?)

I believe there was a long and large scale war between a league of Greeks, and Troy and its Anatolian allies (Lycians, Phrygians, Carians etc.) as recorded by Homer and made plausible by archeology. The war would have concerned the control or plunder of Troy, which was ideally placed to grow rich from the benefit of trade, as it was situated between the Black Sea and the Aegean, East and West.

The war probably created social upheaval and unrest at home, of which Homer records the cultural memory in the Odyssey, when Odysseus returns home from Troy to find his palace affairs being ruined by 'suitors.'

So when the Greek cities tumble among the unrest (civil war) this negatively effects trade in the wider region, so the rest of the Eastern Mediterranean suffers. Out of this the mysterious sea peoples appear, and I think these are merely a barbarian-like confederation of displaced Myceneans, Anatolians, and other Aegean folk. Add to this the drought in the Levant and several natural disasters, and everything collapses short of Egypt.

Nevertheless it is a fascinating topic that always draws interest, so speculations like this still appear - and I will read it every time.

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Anyone have any more examples of this? I'm extremely fascinated by this idea. The Greek god Boreas and the Shinto Deity Fujin are the same god, having been brought by the Greeks through Bactria, to into India, the Buddhists taking it to China, and finally reaching Japan.
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>>1125694
Well every indo-euorpean god and story derive from the same source. Its why so many similar themes pop-up from India to Ireland.
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>>1125694
Vajrapani, a demigod with a club that guards Buddhist shrines is Heracles. Basically the same thing happened as with that god you mention.


The notion of Satan being God's adversary, rather than God's servant who's an adversary to Man, comes from Zoroastrianism, not Judaism.
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>>1125694

I am an Konkani speaker. There are some words in English which come from our language (sugar, sakkar) and also vice versa (bottle, batli). In terms of gods however we mostly retain Hindu Indian deities.

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>alchemy was just proto-chemistry
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>Alchemy was proto spirituality
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>>1125567
>alchemy
>just more limpid, shallow spirituality
>not a genuine initiatic art

I SHIGGY

I DIGGY

I SHIGGY DIGGY DOOOOOO
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>Trust me, God and universal law are deeply intertwined! Watch this lead turn to gold through His will!

Does he have a point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGekFhbyQLk
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>>1125540
>consciousness doesn't real
top kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt9HSQZMQYM
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I ain't clicking that shit.
Present argument.
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>>1125707
The argument: "What is consciousness is the wrong question."

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Should Germany look like this today?

I've been reading about how the allies wanted to redraw Europe. I know that the allies agreed on the Oder river as the German border from the start. They just did not know what to do when the river split. I know the Soviets wanted to push Germany as far west as possible. I think the Americans and UK wanted Germany to keep territory east of the Neisse, but west of the Oder river that now goes into modern day Poland. Also, they wanted to keep Stettin to stay German. I may be wrong.

Thoughts?
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>>1125333
>Should Germany look like this today?
no
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>>1125341
what if the Soviets did not get their way when it came to eastern Germany?
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bump for discussion

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I've heard a few times now that the war wasn't as righteous as is commonly believed, but is there a reasonable way for it to have been prevented?
I've heard some people say that independence was supported primarily by business owners who didn't want to pay the British taxes, would that make the war inevitable?
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Allow Americans to kill Amerindians and take their land, and tax the commoners rather than the rich merchants and the people who own printing presses.
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>>1125250
Don't send Hessians to the colonies
Don't pass the intolerable acts
Keep only tiny garrisons of soldiers
Talk about potential representation in parliament, accept the Olive Branch petition.

That's it, no one would be the wiser.
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They should have taken more Irish instead of the blacks. The Irish can't fight wars like that. They can only get themselves killed to whip up public sympathy

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i just wanted to tell you guys how much i love this board! /his/ is an amazing place where i can finally talk to people who do not only respond with "muh nazis", "muh WW2" and "muh holocaust" whilst asking them about their historyknowledge.

you guys truly care about what happened before WW2 and WW1 wich i think is amazing. since everyone here in germany has a stiffy if the topic is WW2 because everyone and their fucking mom know about WW2 and that's it.

also: September 52 BC was an insidejob
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leave now before you get spooked
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>>1125138 how should i get "spooked" ?
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>>1125111
What do you think about a certain pre-modern German agglomeration, then?

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How did bread come to be? It seems like a lot of steps each of which one normally wouldn't think of doing.
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Convenience I assume

>man this grain is really hard
>oh, if you mash it up it's easier to eat
>but now my mouth is dry like a desert
>I'll add some water
>probably should heat it up to avoid sickness
>hmm, if I heat it up in an oven it turns into these tasty blobs
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>>1124615
What about yeast?
And I know there are variety of types of bread based on cultures and time in history. How did the culture and time periods shape the kind of bread they produced.
Or conversely how did the type of bread eaten at the time reflect the time and people?
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>>1124610
Eating hard grains is shit so folks would naturally try to grind them.

From there on it's easy to make a porridge like substance or flatbread.

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Hey /his/ I have this old wax seal and would like to use it but I have no idea what it says. Is there anyone here who can translate it for me? Googles translations are quite... unintelligible.

Pic related.
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The base as well.
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/int/ might be able to help you more than /his/
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>>1124477
Looks Japanese. Would help a bit if first pic wasn't so blurry. The second pic you posted is also upside down.

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What is it about Sikhism that makes them so bro tier?
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>this meme again
nevertheless

>fight against Muslims
>better hygiene than Hindus
>turban looks kind of cool
>come from one of the more interesting parts of India
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They've had to learn the art of war, diplomacy and civility to last so long in a land dominated by Muslims and Hindus. You respect them, but you also fear angering them.
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A religious symbol that looks like Starcraft, and carrying a dagger everywhere religiously.

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