Hey guys I have a neat idea, every now and then we should have a thread were we do an ideological deconstruction of some aspect of chan "culture".
For this one lets discuss the idea of normiedom.
What does it mean to be a normie?
How different boards interpret normiedom and why they interpret it the way they do.
How to reach a state of nonnormiedom?
And any other questions you guys can ask and answer.
*snifs*
>>1235358
i dont understand how this works
> Let's Deconstruct
Okay. The meaning of every text is deconstruction.
Zizek doesn't do deconstruction. He's firmly opposed to the Heidegger/Derrida gobbledigook.
One day humans will look back on the period between 200 BC and 2100 AD and think "what the fuck were we thinking?"
In the future all of our resources will focus on escaping the earth. We will try to escape this place and explore the galaxy, but ultimately fail because of our fragility.
Not because of racism, or religion, or want for food or land.
We will fail because we are too fragile to make the journey. But as we approach that point we will look back and marvel at the pathetic history that we left behind, and the path away from it that we were intelligent enough to to build.
Wrong. Our destiny is in the stars, it will be achieved even if it takes centuries.
>>1236890
>implying we're not in a simulation
>>1236890
>plays civ 5
>wins spaceshio victory
>faps off to rocket
> realizes he wastes 16 hour on game
>realizes man not going to space anytime soon
>goes to clean up fap mess
>mommy calls me to dinner
>pulls my shlchubby ass upstairs from moms basement
>Pic what you wish you were but never will be
>eats dinner sadly
Im pretty conflicted on how i feel about German history. I mean on one side of the coin they had some of the best military leaders and one of the most interesting cultures imo. Yet they have a habit of fucking up Europe to amazing levels and losing then letting others clean their shit up, only to fuck it up again.
>>1234994
>Germany fucking up Europe
More like Europe fucking up German every time they get big. See : HRE, Prussia, 3rd Reich.
>>1234994
just in case you think germans destroyed the roman empire like everyone who starts these threads claims, it was goths who sacked roman and they were scandinavian in origin and spread to eastern europe
The English ruined Europe by being scared of mainlanders uniting
Should people engage in premarital sex?
>>1234843
>should anyone do anything
Depends what you set out to accomplish.
if it suits their culture why not
>>1234860
Should people engage in premarital sex based on accomplishing the good (however defined)?
I'll start with Trofim Lysenko
>Soviet Biologist/Geneticist/Agricultural Scientist
>Rejected Mendelian genetics in favour of his own Lysenkoism similar to Lamarckism
>Developed pseudo-scientific agricultural practices which may have contributed to Russian and Chinese famines including the idea that crops should be planted extremely close together and that soil should be tilled to a depth of 1 or 2 meters (much deeper than normal)
>Used the Soviet political machine to silence any skepticism. Allegedly had scientists who argued with him discredited and shamed
>Was finally humiliated by journalists thanks to Perestroika and Glasnost.
Also...
>Looks like a Nazi/Bond Villain
>>1234676
One of the things he invented was so-called "square-nest" sowing technique. There were several seeds planted together in a single hole, and said holes had equal distances separating them from each other, like a grid. The idea was getting more seeds to survive and making all the plants have equal access to sunlight.
Turns out birds were smart enough to figure out the patterns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Snezhnevsky
Do you guys ever feel like killing yourselves when you read about accomplished people in history?
>>1234556
Good lord no.
>>1234556
Suicidal thoughts only arise after thinking too much about oneself, reading about others thus compels me not to suicide.
No, because ive accepted the fact that I am an inferior male that will never know love or success in my life.
I'm a stupid guy that flunked out of college with basically zero social experience when interacting with women, and at this point I'm too old to ever make up for all this lost ground.
It's pointless to be jealous of success as if I ever had the chance or ability to attain it.
Once I run out of money I'm just going to kill myself.
Were the Crusades a success?
a 1-1 draw for the visitor team
Yes, the middle east is 100% Christian to this day.
>>1233831
Dear God no.
Really makes you think, huh?
>>1233822
No, no it does not. Makes me think of Greek and Roman vomitoriums.
>>1233822
*tips xiphos*
>>1233822
"Evil" in humans is actually God's curse from the punishment for original sin. That is what the allegory depicts, the tendency of every human to be biased, cruel, self-serving, or in some other way blind to the welfare of others, and acting in an accordingly negative manner. Evil is not sickness, because sickness is part of the natural world when things break down or fail to resist pathogens/parasites, nor is it particularly "fate", the just-shit-happens aspect of living.
Evil exists, but it is not supernatural. So you'll ask, "What about Satan?", well, what of him? The curse of original sin on us from God is more powerful in our minds, our psychology, it's permanent, in the condition of all mankind, not in a particular instance of demonic possession or the like. We're all "born good" and we're all "born evil", and that is the illustration.
Like they do on Earth. Like shit
>>1233448
Cute girls. No exceptions
>>1233448
Nothing, because there is none in Heaven.
People seems to have this childish idea that Heaven is just a continuation of earthly life.
It's really not. But it seems that scripture says that there is wine in Heaven, "And I say to you, I will not drink from henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I shall drink it with you new in the kingdom of my Father. ".
What do you think Hindenburg's last thoughts were?
>>1233082
"This Bohemian is going to destroy everything. Kaiser, I have failed you."
>this chair is uncomfortable
>I wonder what Ludendorff is doing right now
>this guy is creepy
>I wish I was sending millions to die right now
>>1233082
"only a monarch can save germany, but fascism is better than the forced democracy of the entente"
to bad he didn't witness what a failure national socialism was
Can anyone recommend a good book about the Ottoman Balkans? I'm particularly interested in daily life and the interaction between different religions and ethnicities.
>>1232133
I truly wish I could, this is an incredible topic that is almost never undertaken let alone considered in the west.
The only insight I could provide is not a book but to phenomenologically track the progression of the theology/mythology in the region, maybe start with Mircea Eliade, gl, give us updates if you find some interesting aspects.
>>1232133
>different religions
Islam vs christianity?
Christians had to pay heavy taxes and generally were living under the darkness of a tyranny who could kill them just cause
>>1232133
Django shitty knock off movie.
Has anyone been able to rebut Bertrand Russell's famous argument In Marriage and Morals? Einstein even gave great praise to the work
>Love as a relation between men and women was ruined by the desire to make sure of the legitimacy of children.
>The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot coexist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue.
>Even in civilised mankind faint traces of a monogamic instinct can sometimes be perceived.
>I should not hold it desirable that either a man or a woman should enter upon the serious business of a marriage intended to lead to children without having had previous sexual experience.
>Science enables us to realise our purposes, and if our purposes are evil, the result is disaster.
>Joy of life... depends upon a certain spontaneity in regard to sex. Where sex is repressed, only work remains, and a gospel of work for work's sake never produced any work worth doing.
>Gluttony is regarded by the Catholic Church as one of the seven deadly sins, and those who practise it are placed by Dante in one of the deeper circles of hell; but it is a somewhat vague sin, since it is hard to say where a legitimate interest in food ceases and guilt begins to be incurred. Is it wicked to eat anything that is not nourishing? If so, with every salted almond we risk damnation.
Russell's father allowed Russell's mother to sleep with Russell's tutor, and Betrand Russell grew up to be a genius and win the Nobel Peace Prize.
Russel is a cuck, stop spamming him or i'll smash your mothers pussy
>>1230582
How about a reason-based argument instead of ad homs?
>>1230582
Which one was more influential?
>>1225216
Byzantium. Ottoman "Empire" did jack shit.
>>1225216
are you fucking kidding me. Byzantine of course. the turks destroyed it and degenerated it to assfucking and kebabsucking.
If there is God, Constantinople will be free again.
>>1225216
The Ottomans since we barely hear of Byzzies in the Western popular consciousness.
Meanwhile Ottos have Kebabs, Coffee, and the Coffeehouse.
What was Italian American sentiment during the Second World War?
To my knowledge, Americans of German heritage generally didn't feel too much connection to Germany, and their era of mass immigration (mostly) was decently earlier than that of the Italians in America, who came at the turn of the century. Therefore I wonder, since Americans of Italian heritage arrived later to the country, how their feelings were towards Italy's fascism/alliances/etc across the ocean. Watching Raging Bull made me curious, since the protagonists are Italian Americans and the year start of the film is 1941, and it goes through the rest of the 40s too.
Also on that note, is Italian American diaspora overwhelmingly Sicilian and southern Italian? It seems like common portrayal of Italian Americans that they're dark haired, tanned, and have that southern Italian accent. Most of my friends who are of Italian descent are southern Italian. I can only think of one or two who weren't southern Italian, and many who are and who look it too.
Because after the "unification" of Italy, the Savoy plundered all the men and resources from the South to fuel the wars in the North so most southerners fled the country to start a new life in the USA.
Northern Italy is richer so you would have little motivation to migrate in the first place, and apparently Northerners who were poor enough to consider migrating would prefer South America as a destination.
The rest is connections and communities, bringing more and more of their own families and former neighbors from Italy.
>>1222756
Italian nationals were interned in camps much like the Japanese and German nationals, though they were usually let out much earlier.
We haven't had one in a long time. Good ol fashioned Romaboo thread
Hey bitches, this is now a Sulla thread
