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I am from the land where humanity stepped their first

I will no longer bow down to this Euro-Semitic cult that was brought to my lands through blood shed and enslavement!

Why should I worship a God who doesn't even look like me?? Didn't He make us in his image? I am thoroughly disgusted when I read about people on this forum debating the nitty gritty and ideological differences between different dosages of the same POISON. If I should burn eternally for it, let God heap my pyre. My skin was made for the heat
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Africas horn had a Christian presence long before Europeans got there if that's what you are referring to
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>Implying Jesus wasn't black
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>>1294101
He wasn't black, he was brown at most. Look at native semetic Muslims in Palestine today if you want an accurate representation of what Jesus probably looked like. Not a faggoty white blue eyed bitch.

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What was the Japan's war plan? Did they really want to invade America?
Their attack on Perl Harbo[s]u[/s]r was rather arrogant. Did they had ambitions to invade say.. California? What did they going to do if they didn't fail to destroy American fleet? All I could find is Kantai Kessen doctrine but it describes only the planes of destroying the nival forces and has nothing to do with invasion. Did they want to invade? What is the point of war then?
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>>1293792
>Did they really want to invade America?
They didn't
>What was the Japan's war plan?
They hoped that the war won't escalate and that they will defeat the US quickly in few major sea battles which will bring Americans to peace table as Japanese hoped that public opinion in the US won't support the war for few islands on the Pacific they don't care about. The peace terms were very simple as well - few islands on Pacific Ocean and lifting embargoes, nothing exorbitant or unacceptable.

The Pacific bases here would be just for the negotiation purposes as well - you always want to get more than somebody else can offer, the main point of Japanese attack was to lift the embargoes and allow them to expand freely in Southeast Asia and China.
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>>1293812
>you always want to get more than somebody else can offer
I'll rephrase it - you always ask for more than you need
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>>1293812
>The peace terms were very simple as well - few islands on Pacific Ocean and lifting embargoes, nothing exorbitant or unacceptable.
Thank God for someone saying this. Why must people always imagine for themselves that Japan and Germany would've invaded America.

Both would have simply requested neutrality from the US. I can't even imagine why people would think that the Axis powers would put themselves through the hassle of invading the US. That seems so impractical.

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Kilroy was here.
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ye olde meme
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I wonder what kind of shitposting each ancient culture had.
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>>1293717
The once and future meme.

did the Saar offensive have a chance of winning the war for the French?
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>>1293664
Had the british not retreated cowardly at Dunkirk and the morale for undertating the Saar offensive not been depleted you mean?

I really couldn't say. There'd have been a far higher likelihood of a stalemate though, with french troops looming dangerously on Germany's entire industrial region in the West, and german troops lingering just as dangerously some kilometers from Paris.

It'd have been have a "he has my balls in his hands, but I have his in my hands, so everything will be fine so long as none of us make a move" narrative really.
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If the French had done things right they might have won.
But they only made mistakes.
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None, the French were still stuck in WW1 and it took them ages to advance their army.

>>1293715
Saar """"offensive""" happened before Dunkirk retard

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To further the idea of "History repeats itself", I had a little thought. White Americans grew culturally much long before African-Americans did obviously -- blacks were slaves until the 1860's. But at that that point of emancipation, would have blacks technically started there culture at the point of being free men? I am not trying to demean or demoralize black people by saying they are a step behind in culture -- though there will be outliers that don't fit the criteria -- but maybe black people are behind in cultural advancements. EG) A ton of black people look up to the famous, wealthy, and professional athletes. Many will dress flauntingly (wearing expensive Jordan's, LV belts, etc.). It seems like this is reminiscent of the 1920's with the creation of credit and glorification of having objects of prestige. Even dancing -- with moves like Nae Nae, Whip, Dab, Jerk, Reject, Stanky leg, Quan (not joking) -- we know about dancing and it's impact in the 20's -- like with flappers and dancing was glorified in "The Great Gatsby". This seems racist ( Black people are lower the Whites) although this is 4chan, I am not trying to be racist but rather propose a hypothesis for certain trends and behavior in the majority of the black community. What are your thoughts /his/? Perhaps there are high rate of crime and violence from White population earlier in America's timeline that can coincide with the rates of the black population currently? Maybe I am retarded, but I would be interested in seeing if they could be mildly true.
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Don't you think it's pretty silly to imply that every culture must go through the same steps in the same order? Culture doesn't really work like that. Also why would slavery put on hold cultural developments? Slaves still had a culture particular to themselves even while slaves. Not to mention not all blacks were slaves.
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>>1293655
Then i guess the first taste of freedom and liberty is a path that branchs out limitlessly. Like if two isolated societies were given weapons, they would be violent. But black people weren't given the same obstacles throughout their use of freedom. So yeah, I definitely agree. I was seeing if there was ant sense in my little connections
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>>1293663
Are you autistic? You realize that African American's in the south have the exact same culture as other southerners right?

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>man is the animal
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>>1293578
yes humans are animals, and we are just as if not more savage than the other animals
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>>1294968
FYI kangaroos tear each other's testicles off when they fight for a mate
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>>1294974
That seems extremely counterproductive.

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What is the historical value of cultural diversity?
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What?
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>>1293551
Everyone loves cultural diversity and it always works f a m just look at RomE.It wOrkED perfectly fOR theM.
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Destroying your empire.

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Wtf I hate rome now.
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Same, I never thought of it that way
I am #votingforher now
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>History channel

They only have shitty reality shows and american propaganda.
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Wow, I guess I am now truly #SickforAlaric

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>The displacement of the political consequences of wage labour relations away from the metropolis is not an incidental feature of capital accumulation, as the economic purists aligned to both the bourgeoisie and the workerist left assert. It is rather the fundamental condition of capital as nothing other than an explicit aggression against the masses. (..) Capital has always sought to distance itself in reality – i.e. geographically – from this brutal political infrastructure. After all, the ideal of bourgeois politics is the absence of politics, since capital is nothing other than the consistent displacement of social decision-making into the marketplace. But this ideal of total de-politicization, or the absolute annihilation of resistance to market relations, is an impossible megalomaniac fantasy, and Marx’s contention that labour trading at its natural price in an undistorted market (equal to the cost of its reproduction) will tend strongly to express an equally ‘natural’ political refusal of the market, continues to haunt the global bourgeoisie. The only practical option available to the rulers of capitalist societies has lain in the global disaggregation of the political system, accompanied by a regional distortion of the world labour trading system in favour of the working classes in the metropolitan regions (,welfare capitalism’).
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>This is why a deep complicity has continued to exist between the form of the ‘nation state’ as international political agent and an economic order based upon the commodification of labour. Since it is of systematic necessity that the economic conditions of an undistorted labour market are accompanied by political crisis, the world order functions as an integrated process based upon the flow of market-priced labour into the metropolis from the Third World (on the basis of the economic form of capital production), and the export of political instability to the Third World from the metropolis (on the basis of the political form of autonomous national sovereignty). The global labour market is easily interpreted, therefore, as a sustained demographic disaster that is systematically displaced away from the political institutions of the metropolis. This process of displacement, which is the ultimate ‘base’ or ‘infrastructure’ of capital accumulation, is dependent upon those issues of ‘kinships’ or ‘marriage organization’ (the sexual economy of gender and race) which Marxists have often tended to consider as surface features of an underlying mode of production.
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>These two aspects, the genealogical and the logical, are functions of a position of abstract masculine subjectivity coincident with the patronymic. This position is the proto-cultural fundament of everything that is able to count as the same. The tradition is thus rooted in a communication between culture and population, whose medium is the stability (‘identity’) of the male line. Modernity is not merely a compromise between novel forms of commercially driven social organization and this archaic cultural pattern of patrilineal exogamy, but more fundamentally, a deepening of the compromise already integral to any exogamy that is able to remain patrilineal. It is only by understanding the inhibitive function of patriarchies in relation to exogamic dissipation (an inhibition that is supremely logical in that it conserves identity, and which is for this reason violently xenophobic) that we can make sense of capital production and its tendency towards the peculiar cultural mutation that was baptised by Mussolini as ‘fascism’ . This is because the restriction of cultural synthesis, based upon a strenuous endogamy at the level of the national community, is the ultimate outcome of the concerted ‘liberalization’ of kinship organizations within (metropolitan) industrial societies
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>The women of the earth are segmented only by their fathers and husbands. Their praxial fusion is indistinguishable from the struggle against the micro-powers that suppress them most immediately. That is why the proto-fascism of nationality laws and immigration controls tends to have a sexist character as well as a racist one. It is because women are the historical realization of the potentially euphoric synthetic or communicative function which patriarchy both exploits and inhibits that they are invested with a revolutionary destiny, and it is only through their struggle that politics will be able to escape from all fatherlands. (p. 78)
If feminist struggles have been constantly deprioritized in theory and practice it is surely because of their idealistic recoil from the currency of violence, which is to say, from the only definitive ‘matter’ of politics. The state apparatus of an advanced industrial society can certainly not be defeated without a willingness to escalate the cycle of violence without limit. It is a terrible fact that atrocity is not the perversion, but the very motor of such struggles: the language of inexorable political will. A revolutionary war against a modern metropolitan state can only be fought in hell.

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Wow, really? Why do Christians always produce stupid "philosophical" concepts and then push their agenda for our money & inslavement?
https://youtu.be/DH53uFBOGbw?t=4m41s
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>>1293398
The argument is entirely correct.
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To get rid of their cognitive dissonance. If you insist that your system is 'perfect' and 'flawless' and reality shows it's any but, you have to resolve the internal conflict in some way.

Apologetics is basically built around this set up. It's basically nothing more than Christians trying to bullshit their way out of the obvious contradictions of their own beliefs
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>>1293408
lol this lol

fuck cuckstianity

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i was wondering if i could get help with a question i was asked the question is
>Outline hatshepsut's claim to throne
i have many points to this but i was wondering if i could get some insight on this.
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>>1293219
She played nicely with the priesthood. The power of the priests cannot be overstated; it was they who really got to choose the pharaoh. Since they had a direct line to the gods, they were trusted in ecclesiastical matters, and thus could decide if the pharaoh had divine right to rule, or was a divine at all. Hatshepsut could either let her son Thutmose III rule by himself (as a direct puppet of the priesthood) or she could act as a regent while still obeying the priesthood more or less. She did great things in her own, don't get me wrong, but she didn't do anything against the will of the priests. She would have been out of there if she had; look at Akhenaten for example.
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>>1293227
Thanks man was wondering if the family tree would be important for a question like this cause she used family right to claim the throne
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>>1293233
Yes, she was the daughter of Thutmose I. She was sister to Thutmose II, as well as his wife, and mother of Thutmose III. She had royal right, and as such was later censored by future pharaohs who thought that if her claim could support a pharaoh so splendid, others may think their claim just as good. So they censored her to prevent ideas from spreading. But given her position in the royal family it isn't surprising she took power.

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What is the best history documentary, preferably available on youtube or other site for free? Pic related
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The battlefield series is my favorite although alot of them were taken off youtube. It has some minor errors of course. I like it because it leaves politics mostly out and focuses on the military situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAfcOYKMPP4
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>>1293169
"Most evil" ~Though to me it is just interesting to watch. I don't think it is necessary to feel as if being or becoming evil watching them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxK-qR14pVg

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22KIQ1QNnhE

is the holy trinity along with "the world at war"

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If the Moors weren't pushed out of Iberia, meaning Columbus couldn't "discover" America, and the Ottoman Empire continued Westward into Europe.
Would the Muslims treat the Native Americans any different than Christians?
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>>1293097
They wouldn't, lol.
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I don't think Ottomans ever really had the technology or drive for transoceanic voyages. The Chinese or Brits would've probably been the first discoverers in that case.
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>>1293126
I believe they did, but the Spaniards cock blocked them

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Martin Luther is in Hell, and John Calvin is too. All Protestants are heretics and heathens and pagans. End of discussion.
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If you didn't want a discussion, then why did you open a thread?
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>>1293037
Nice spooks

>>>/wsg/1132596
>listen to 2:30-2:40

If that doesn't bring the patriotism out in you, then you can get out.
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Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.
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>>1292941
I would argue that Americans have unique and special grounds to be patriotic. Americans can and should be proud of their nation in a way that no other nation on Earth can be proud, because unlike all other nations, America was explicitly founded on a set of principles and ideals. We are a nation of ideas and dreams.
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>>1292968
So are communist countries.

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