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How comes that most religions before Christianity and Islam had a view on the afterlife where generally the brave, kind or generous were rewarded no matter what their faith was while those two had a view that says that you don't really have to be good to be rewarded, but have to believe in a certain deity to not be punished?
How could the two later world views out-rival the earlier ones so relatively quickly?
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>>1121204
Monotheism is a good model if you want to have political control. You have one God and one priesthood that controls the church. So the only access to divine is through the church door and the priesthood are the key masters.

It gives an immense amount of control to the priests. The same thing happened with the Zoastrians and the Jewish Monotheists.

In other cases methods of control other than religion were used. Because of this a more free-form type of religion would not disrupt power because religion...
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>>1121204

It's a variation on Pascal's wager. If the Greeks say that most people end up in Hades and Elysium is only for heroes while the Christians say that you can go to heaven by just believing in Jesus following his teachings and if you don't then you'll go to a place worse than hades, this gives Christianity an edge.

The Greeks actually had mystery cults that claimed you could go to Elysium if you were inducted into their secret society, but these societies were exclusive while Christianity...
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>>1121453
>Worse than Hades
Was Hades really a bad place to be at though?

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Hear me out. You can go and prevent the fall of any empire, kingdom etc or alter the course of history as you see fit, through any means you want.
Eg.
> Time travel and impersonate a God, tell civilization watdo.
Or
>Omnipotent being doing wat u want.
Wat do?
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>>1115759
i would go back 3-5 years and prevent myself from jacking off to some sick shit that i regret
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>>1115759
Stop the decline of Catholicism, unite Europe under its banner. Watch as the world unifies under the banner of the pope, and then we bring His will to the stars.
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Nothing major, because I am not a retard. The only reasonable thing might be to prevent or lessen atrocities and the like, or save the lives of geniuses.

...Actually, I might change recent history to eliminate radical islam, or just get HW Bush to finish off saddam back when he should have.

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ITT: Historical people that did nothing wrong.
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What the fuck happened to Zimbabwe?

Inb4 'niggers', not everywhere descended into total chaos after the end of colonialism (Namibia has done okay, as an example), but Zimbabwe was pretty much first world, and is now an absolute shithole.

What happened?
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When the English ruled Rhodesia they had guns germs and steel. Once the Africans took over they mismanaged their stock of guns germs and steel. The rest is history.
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>>1107310
Zimbabwe was actually white, other colonies' whites were just to check on the blacks and get lucky with business. Zimbabwe went from 5 to 1 while other nations went from 3 to 2
Also the more forceful the blacks were the more they wanted to do the exact contrary as the previous leaders: scrap the constitution, destroy business, invest in idiotic shit, burn down good looking houses.
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>>1107310
M*gabe
Literally all his fault.

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>Itt: Military Coups throughout history.

Are they effective?
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>>1105930
The most laughable dictator ever came to power as a result of one so there's that.
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>>1105930
Effective how?
Do they bring people in power? Yes all the time
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Yes.

It baffles me how the U.S. Army never attempted one of those. I think MacArthur actually come close but he backed off in the end.

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What did something historically relevant either on a national or international scale that your state/region/equivalent has done in the past 50 years?
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White flight
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I live in the Netherlands.

That is to say, nothing.
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>>1100975
Why wouldn't Abe recognize Missouri?

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In this thread, we fix whatever is wrong with the English Language and make it a more viable AuxLang.

We all agree there's something wrong with it, so what would you do to repair it?
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I think we should make all weak verbs strong
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>>1100140
>the weak should fear the strong
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>>1100079
First of all you'd need a spelling reform.
It's pathetic that they never matched their spelling and their pronunciation.

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Why were the Nazi's such embarrassing failures?
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>>1118172
>unironically counting china as part of the Soviet sphere of influence
wew
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>>1118172
Because 3 reichs, your out.
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>>1118189

I'm pretty sure thats just a map of gommunism in general

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Is the reason that Christianity managed to spread so quickly throughout the Roman Empire because of the empire's massive slave population?
Think about it. All of the areas that Abrahamic religions have dominated are all areas that have had extensive slavery - whereas places that have never extensively practiced slavery (China, Japan, India) have also never had any Abrahamic religions set up shop (Except for parts of India because lol Mughal conquests)
Basically what I'm asking here is: Do the Abrahamic religions, Christianity especially, thrive in cultures that...
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>>1118023
Islam spread in India in certain communities because the caste system was more lax, as in in the Malipas. I'm not entirely sure about Christianity or Judaism, but Islam spread because of it's radical idea of equality regardless of race, caste, or ethnicity. This was especially seen in Bengal.
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>>1118023
Abrahamic religions are much more cult-like and communal than the religions that followed before them.

They appeal to those living unsatisfying and harsh lives on Earth who desire easy salvation in the afterlife. It lacks any sort of deeper thought-process than "Follow these easy steps to get eternal salvation!". No real philosophy, self-determinism, existentialism, etc. is inherent in Christianity.

As far as Religions go it is 100% plebeian-tier.
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>>1118321
Yeah, pretty much.

Goddamn death cult.

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Looking at it objectively, the US lost in Vietnam.They only fought to bail out the french who themselves were completely incompetent as well. The mission was to protect the french colonies in "Indochina" and to stop the spread of communism. The french jumped ship, and communism spread not only into Vietnam, but into Laos and Cambodia too. Remind me again how the US is some kind of superpower?
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DELET THIS
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Even the best teams sometimes lose to a complete shit team in sports.
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>>1107596
The US lost Vietnam because it went in with poorly defined objectives, did not have a coherent exit plan, and overall did not understand a god damn thing about the people of Vietnam, why they were fighting, and how they saw them.

Alot of that can be said about Iraq and Afghanistan as well.

>Remind me again how the US is some kind of superpower?
Aircraft carriers, nukes/ICBMs and a powerful economy. Are you implying the US is NOT a superpower?

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If the catholic church is not the true faith, why would God send Our Blessed Lady to Fatima to give us a message? Why would she ask for Catholic bishops to consecreate Russia to her Immaculate Heart, instead of asking Orthodox bishops?

Honest question, protestants need not apply
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God bless, OP.
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They will deny the miracles, in the same way they deny the saints. It's easier for them to pretend there is a huge catholic conspiracy.
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>>1118350
To be clear, there actually is a catholic conspiracy: catholicism is a huge conspiracy of God, but it is open and doesn't work in the same way non-catholics think it does.

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>'good' and 'evil'
>not quite literally spooks that were literally made up by some random butthole from Persia 3 millenia ago

Pick one, my properties
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I literally cannot.
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>moral relativism
PoMos get out
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>>1114140

>Not keeping the 'good' and 'evil' dichotomy alive so you can take advantage of the people

You are my property, little spook

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Korean History general

Get in here, niggas
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besides Admiral motherfucking Yi are there any other Korean figures I should know about

well I guess the Kim family and the guy who saved South Korea
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>>1113161
Ko un is pretty cool if you like poetry

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According to /his/, was Muhammad real?
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yes if we hold the evidence to the same standards applied to many other historical figures generally accepted as real
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Unfortunately yes.
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>>1118647
There's a Syriac account from the 7th century that mentions his name, so he was real. That's about all we can really be sure of. He's not all that different from Jesus in that regard.

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Let's have a jack chick general.
What do you love the most about Jack?
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I personally love those that cover history, always makes myblood pressure rise.
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>>1111930
So Augustine indirectly founded Islam?

Interesting.
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>>1112070
I think he is claiming it was more directly.

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