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Is he the greatest general in human history? Are the stories about him more legend than history?
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>>72338

>Is he the greatest general in human history?

I'm not even sure I'd rate him top 5.

I mean, you have either Genghis Khan or Subotai, depending on which one you credit as the real geinus behind the Mongolian conquests, you've got Napoleon, you've got Alexander, you've got guys like Guo Ziyi and Khalid Ibn Al-Walid. Do you think Hannibal is better than any of them?

>Are the stories about him more legend than history?

Probably...
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>>72338
>Is he the greatest general in human history?
No, he couldn't even take Rome. I would personally probably say Belisarius was the greatest in history simply because he conquered Italy and North Africa as well as frequently defeating the Persians and Bulgars despite often having too few soldiers.
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>Hannibal
>a man living in Africa at the time
>white
When will this meme die?

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What was in your opinion the biggest cause to the start of the First World War?
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>>72191

Nationalism mixed with the teaching of Darwinism, like survival of the fittest
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>>72191
the french revolution
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Guarantee of Belgian neutrality.

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Let's discuss one of the most interesting countries on the African continent. What do you know about Ethiopian history?

Some starters:

>Is one of the oldest Christian countries, having adopted it in the 4th century
>One of the only nations in Africa to resist colonialisation
>Only country in Africa with its own unique alphabet
>First country to cultivate coffee
>Is apparently the final resting place for...
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>Build churches in a way that just seems impractical
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>>72115
all that I know is that they are the worst african country with even worse iq scores than other africans.
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>>72115
I wish people would stop making generals.

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Let's talk about overrated generals. Why and how did they capture the attention of the pop history crowd despite their copious lack of success.


Pic related is most famous for a campaign that he lost as many battles as he won, defied his orders, wasted a shit ton of his supplies on attacks that went nowhere, and ultimately failed in every single one of its strategic aims.

Yes he's lauded as a general almost without peer, despite being a walking embodiment of the Peter Principle.

Who is your favorite overrated general?
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As opposed to who?
Allied generals that win through superior numbers & supplies?
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>>71899

As opposed to generals who were actually good at their jobs. Guys like Kesselring, or Manstein if you want to stick to WW2 Germans.
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>>71881
>Yes he's lauded as a general almost without peer, despite being a walking embodiment of the Peter Principle.

I think him turning into a secular saint is based on
* The importance of Egypt (Suez Canal) to the British war effort,
* His involvement in the plot against Hitler, but most importantly
* Rommel wasn't involved in the Eastern Front, and so never got tainted by atrocities committed there

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>God tier
Knights Hospitaller
>Mid tier
Knights Templar
>Low tier
Everything else
>Ultimate shit tier
Teutonic Order

Prove me wrong.
Protip: you can't/
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>>71816
Templars were the ultimate shit-tier, that's a fact.

They were fucking bastards, sodomites, failed every military action they tried, and at the end of their reign, they became merchants obsessed with earning gold.
They were such fucking cunts that they even refused to pay the ransom of Saint-Louis, King of France, who was the only King of Europe who still waged a crusade in the Holy Lands.

They deserved being put to the torch by Philippe le Bel.

Hospitallers are cool though.
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>>71816
>>Ultimate shit tier
>Teutonic Order
butthurt Pole detected
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>>71816
>>Ultimate shit tier
>Teutonic Order
Seriously? They managed to establish their own empire in Europe, quite impressive in my opinion. Also the richest order +bonus for sexiest armours.

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Based of the amphitheater density I would say France and England (together with Tunisia) were the most important parts of the Empire?

Is this wrong?
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>>71745
Western Europe was of very little importance to Rome apart from parts of Spain which were heavily urbanised or gold rich, and parts of Gaul near the frontier and the main roads. Britain wasn't very important at all and Italy less so as time marched on. The most important parts of the Roman world were western Anatolia and Constantinople, the province of Africa, Egypt and Syria.
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Amount of fertile land = wealth/importance
Follow the crops
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>>71799
Following up. The reason more amphitheatres have been excavated from western Europe is because modern day western Europe is rich as fuck and can afford to generously provide for museums and universities to dig shit up. Places like Libya and Iraq, despite sitting on a goldmine of antiquities have barely unearthed many of their greatest treasures.

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How effect was America's foreign policy during the Cold War. Specifically was it a mistake to support many third world dictators who would fight "Communism" and ally with the United States at the expense of causing many populations to resent the United States.
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>>71725
In the Cold War, it was worth the anti-American sentiment in the region, as the Soviet Union was always the bigger problem. Now, we're still feeling the long term repercussions. Ultimately, no, we didn't really have a choice when the USSR did the same thing elsewhere.
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>>71725

>Specifically was it a mistake to support many third world dictators who would fight "Communism" and ally with the United States at the expense of causing many populations to resent the United States

You have to ask two questions:
1. To what extent are you willing to go to fight Communism?

JFK and Reagan were willing to watch the world burn in a end-game nuclear exchange. That's obviously excessive and self-defeating.
If, like the second of the men mentioned...
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>>72233
Yeah, I guess a part of my question was related to >>72523 where it wasn't always about fighting communist as it was about keeping economic privileges for the United States.

>>72523
Do you think the US foriegn policy has cost or helped the United States economy in the long run.

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This thread is dedicated to Our Lady. Theotokos. Mary Mother of God. Post icons, paintings, music and so on glorying Our Mother.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpRyYWnzCvQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy3fpoeDTSQ

So Protestants don't think Mary is the Mother of God:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Mary-mother-God-theotokos.html

But isn't that implicit Nestorianism? I don't see how it couldn't be. Could a Protestant explain to me how that isn't Nestorianism?
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One of my personal favorite Marian hymns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXLV2Hbhmuw

Who /St. Louis de Montfort/ here? True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin is a life changing book.
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>>71658
Can we post good ones or just Orthodox art?
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>>71724
Nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwoF8fzjitI

>>72049
You can post whatever you want. I'm Orthodox, but the art I posted in the OP isn't. The Orthodox Church prohibits realism in art as its modernist (not in art in general, I just mean in Church sponsored art and art used for religious devotion at home).

Why is Swiss military /his/tory so based ? most wanted mercenaries in all of Europe. few pike men fucked up a sizable french army. Shit.
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>>71600
>Why is Swiss military /his/tory so based ?

It is?
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>>71600
No fear of death judging by their fighting style between 1400 and 1800.
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>>71736
>their fighting style between 1400 and 1800

Their military history ended in 1515 though

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What lead to Greek mythology being the most influential and having such a long standing interest? Of course other mythologies such as Norse have had a recent revival, but none have yet to captivate the interests such as the greek ones. Also Poseidon best god
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>>71589
It's probably because:
1. The importance of Greece (and Rome, who highly prized Greek philosophy etc) in Western civilisation, and
2. There's far more written evidence about Greek mythology than other European pantheons
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>>71589
It's the one with the most documented material
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>>71589
Greeks identified constellations with their gods.

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What were the Greeks doing in the Middle Ages. Did they like, have castles and knights and shit? Because you never hear about those.
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>>71583
Ever heard of Byzance?
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They were the Byzantine Empire.
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>>71583
They were busy being Roman.

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Let's talk about Latin American history, Columbus-Present

>inb4 what history
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WOO SAN JACINTO! REMEMBER EL ALAMO! GIT SUM!
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>>71516
what happened?
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>>72046
independance was a mistake

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This is the Borderline General.
>Borderline? What's that?
The board rules state that anything discussed on this board must be at least 25 years old. The Borderline General is for discussion of anything exactly 25 years ago.
It's 2015, so until New Years Day, the discussion topic is the year 1980.
I'll start off with an easy one - The Empire Strikes Back made its theatrical debut in 1980. What do you think it was like to see it brand new? If you were there, how did people feel about it?
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>>71390
My dad told me he waited all day for it, after a pal saved a spot for him in line the night before. It was a big fuckin deal obviously.
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>>71452
What was his reaction to the Darth Vader reveal?
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it should be 15 years

we cant discuss the gulf wars

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What went wrong?
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>>71365
Fighting on two fronts.
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Having a meme emperor.
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>>71365
0 allies, low man power, decadence etc..
being a 1000 year old empire in the pretty much modern age does that.

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Can we have a thread about the origins of various holidays?

I'll start. Christmas is pagan.
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>>71134
They timed Christian holidays to pagan holidays so pagans didn't have to do much cultural transitioning with this method in place.
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Independence day (July 4) is Marxist.
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Halloween is Buddhist

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