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This is a thread open to all discussion regarding Oceanian peoples from Madagascar to Easter Island.

Language, genetics, culture, technology, etc...

Pic related is a New Zealand Maori woman
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>>309639
>Oceania
SHOUT, SHOUT OUT HIS NAME!
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Anybody else studying the history of Austronesian languages? Why are hacks like Sagart allowed to have jobs?
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Famadihana the ancient celebration of the ancestors, Malagasy Highlands

>>309644
...what

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Why did monotheism take off? Why did it become so much more popular than polytheism? What are the historical reasons for this dramatic religious shift?
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>>309618
>"what is finding security in the unknown void after death?"
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>>309618

"Monotheism" didn't take off. Christainity and Islam took off, but you have older forms of Monotheism like Judaism, whatever that Amhotep religion was, and Zoroastrianism, and those never really spread much beyond small ethno-groups.

Christianity spread because it gave an answer to the inevitable suffering in life, and promised both a meaning and a reward for said suffering.

Islam, I'm less sure of. The obvious answer is that it spread by the sword, but you see other polytheistic religions that were also spread forcefully and those didn't have the same kind of lasting impact.
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because monotheism is true

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What are some of histories biggest retcons?
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>>309556
I think we're witnessing one in progress with Christopher Columbus going from celebrated navigator to literally Hitler.
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>>309556
Cathars don't exist
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>>309578
>implying he wasn't a shit explorer and a cruel tyrant who only got a day named after him because of Catholics and itialian communities in the U.S.

Step up

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Were Jesus and the people of the Galilee region even Jewish?

There is a book that decisively states, with a lot of good reasons, that Jesus was a gentile, the author claims Phoenician, which is a bit of a stretch to conclude, but the point is that there is good evidence Jesus did not follow Jewish law and scripture as a Jew would.

http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Phoenician-Karim-El-Koussa/dp/1620065789

Just read this and see what you think about:

http://eli-kittim.tumblr.com/post/106110545257/jesus-is-a-gentile-the-evidence-from-the-gospels

Judaism...
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>>309529
What you first need to understand is that all OG Israelites were indistinguishable from their pagan Canaanite neighbors. The only difference was in religion/culture.

Secondly, they also didn't control nearly as much of the region as the Bible says they did, but for some reason the Romans called the whole thing Judea. I think this kind of gave all the natives within that border the Jewish identity. It's very possible they didn't have the fully codified beliefs their brothers from deeper in Jewish territory had.
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>>309539
During the times of King David, they likely did not control as much land as thought. However, before the Romans invaded, the Maccabean and Herodean Kingdom had fairly well-defined borders spanning most of the area.
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>>309529

He was a direct descendant of Daniel, the original king of Israel. Of course he was Jewish.

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This triggers logical positivists!
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This make analytical philosophers to shit their pants
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Actually that makes Aristotle shit his pants. Are you sure you know anything about the history of logic?
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Was a black Swan ever actually a big deal? Surely you could look at other birds, eg rooks, and conclude birds can be black. Then you could look at sheep or albinos and conclude, just because many are one colour some can be a different colour. Ergo, black swans are perfectly possible.

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So whats the deal with these guys? Were they guilty or not? What is the consensus?
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>>309057
Innocent. As found by Pope Clement at the time, when he found them not guilty, and restored them all to full sacrament.
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Innocent.

French king didn't want to pay denbts. It was also convenient to get rid of such a powerful multi national enterprise.
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>>309141
>multi national enterprise.

It was mostly French (which is why he got rid of it so easily)

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>tfw you realize the illusion of free will amounts to and is indistinguishable from the reality of free will
>tfw you realize determinists are btfo
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Pretty much this

If determinism is true my agency still feels as real as ever.
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>>308795
Determinism was always fishy. People who use it are always excusing some shitty event.

That probably prompted the search to find the shitcake.
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>>308795
An illusion can break down, the truth can't.

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what do you guys know about doggerland/the cultures that lived there?

it is proposed to be the genesis of haplogroup r1b, correct?
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>>308691
>it is proposed to be the genesis of haplogroup r1b, correct?
No.
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Ok I'm interested.
There were people living there?
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>>308761
Apparently. There were cro-magnon and neanderthal inhabitants of what is now the British Isles well prior to that, and they were actively hunting in the area. I know a bunch of mammoth bones have been dredged up from the Dogger Bank, and we all know how delicious mammoths are.

I've seen some really based summarizations of stuff on 4chan. Could any if you guys give me some sweet musky knowledge on the history of relations between these two red giants? Every time somebody gives a good explanation of stuff like this it really clarifies current day scenarios.
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They don't like each other
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>>310067
This, IIRC they almost nuked each other.
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They like each other

What race were the Ancient Egyptians, /his/?
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Mixed African / European / Semitic
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They were pure white Nordic Aryans.
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>>308638

ARYANID, BUT THE EGYPTIAN PEOPLE ITSELF AS A WHOLE WAS COMPRISED OF SEVERAL ETHNICITIES, SOME MORE ARYAN, OR LESS ARYAN, THAN OTHERS.

'Everything can be explained through natural force, laws, and observation'

>laws break down when explaining the most crucial aspects/events of the universe.

>science changes its views and theories every decade (half the time contradicting what was considered concrete evidence)

>all atheist shoot down religion but st-start stuttering when they try to convey how nothing became everything.

>free will is not possible if consciousness...
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>>308550
>>all atheist shoot down religion but st-start stuttering when they try to convey how nothing became everything.
Citation needed
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atheists abstain from opinions until science tells them otherwise. their viewpoints rely on the data, whereas religion just believes whatever a book tells them to regardless of certain things being disproven
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>>308567
>well you see it started with the big bang
how did that start
>w-well we think its an infinite cycle of collapse of expansion
how did that start
>w-w-well we think there are virtual particles that can borrow energy from vacuums and immediately explode and that the big bang is the maximal amount of energy that can be released from this
how did that start
>w-w-well u-u-uh

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what do you think about Göbekli Tepe?
it's rather extraordnary
>over 9 000 BC
>megalithic structure predating Stonhenge by thousands of years
>buried around 7 - 8 000 BC for unknown reasons
>predates agriculture
>built by hunter-gatherers

thoughts? I find it fascinating, but I wonder who built it. there were no Semites in the area at that time. was it the proto-Sumerians?
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link for everyone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe
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>>308520
There's no reason hunter-gatherers would be incapable of building monumental structures its that they have less reason to aggregate in one area than agriculturalists although sites such as starr carr saw seasonal occupation and hence more developed structures.
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>>308520
Could one group have started it as a shrine, another group finds it and adopts it as such, and instead of fighting over it they both agree to use it in cooperation, and the whole thing snowballs from there?

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Thread for atheists and those who are interested in being atheists. Questions and answers welcome.
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Tell me about the Armenians /his/
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Basically the last remnant left of Alexanders dream of a united Persian-Greek empire.
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>>308376

Why do they wear the green?
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>>308419
Could you elaborate?

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What caused continental philosophy to become to laughingstock of the intellectual world? Was it their unwillingness to side with science?

Also who are you favorite analytical philies?
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>>308340
>>308340
>Why do people who agree with me share my distaste for a certain group
hurr durr

It is and isn't a laughing stock depending on the university you are in, even down to the department.

Also
>implying the historical context of a philosophy isn't incredibly important.

Why is more important than when and what.
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They thought that by writing gibberish, they would appear smart. Eventually, people started parsing their texts... To find out it had no meaning.
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>>308373
Find me one example of a continental text that is "nonesense".
And I will show you how you have completely failed to understand it.

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