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Before I start Freedom of speech != freedom to disturb the peace(screaming stuff at people or forcing them to listen to you), let's make that clear.

>United States
>Companies often fire employees for holding viewpoints that they disagree with
>This kills the C.V.
>without a job you starve to death during the winter
America is nothing special and all our jazz about freedom is bullshit.

>Britain
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You're not allowed to hold politically incorrect views, because if you do, you will be scrutinized and lose all opportunities forever.
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>>410895
>>people sentenced to ten years + of taxpayer funded jailtime for swearing
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>>410909
https://www.google.com/search?q=britain+sentanced+to+jail+for+speech&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

What if Athens won the Peloponnesian War? How would this change the course of Western history?
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>>410429

If they could withstand the rise of Thebes then that would have further impact on the Rise of Macedon and eventually the rise of Hellenism and Rome.
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>>410429

Almost certianly very little would have changed. You'd still have the plague, you'd still have them bankrupting themselves on lengthy expeditions with big fleets and big fortification projects, and if they ultimately prevailed over Sparta, they'd be in the same prostrate position that Sparta was in after it "won".

Thebes becomes the most powerful state in Greece immediately after, mostly by virtue of staying out of it was much as possible.
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>>410429
Well the reason the war started in the first place was because of fear of Athen's growing power.

So perhaps another coalition of Boeotian or Peloponnesian City-States would form to to rival Athens? Perhaps headed by Thebes?

Why is it call "China"?
"Middle Kingdom", "Central Nation" or "Medium Country" seem much more meaningful right?
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>>410336
Qin.
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>>410336
Is this a troll thread?
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>>410345
>Qin
So Qinland or Chinland?
Why Chin-a?

Let's go.
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>tfw you will never fuck a trebuchet

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Are swords basically just a meme weapon?
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>>410300
>meme [noun]

2/10, made me reply
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No, if you could afford it you would use them as a side to your spear. They where excellent at fighting lightly armored enemies, such as hard leather, and even had some workarounds to fighting enemies with armor.
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Yes. Most medieval battlefield casualties were caused by arrows or pole arms. If you are actually using your sword, things were going wrong.

Of course, they are incredibly important as a symbol, both of social status and martial prowess.

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>you will never
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She was pretty hot, then again, pussy is pussy.

There's really nothing new under the sun.
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>>410026
superior qt coming though
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>>412537
>though
through

Is the Roman Empire the most overrated empire of all time? I never found Rome or it's period interesting at all. It's boring as fuck. It's all Caesar or barb stomping then Rome gets shit on by barbs. Almost any history anywhere else past Christ's death is more interesting than the Rome era, except for Africa.

Romefags always circlejerk over Rome and how glorious it was, and for every "if Germany won WWII" alternate history, there's 3 "if the Roman Empire survived" alternate history with shitty Roman colonization of places and some other shit.
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Sorry, but the title of the most overrated civilization goes to the "hellenic" Greeks.
Fucking jews.
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You can't "overrate" the most influential state/civilization in history. If anything, the western part is overrated and whole "Roman empire collapsed in 476" meme should die already.
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>>409903
Have we already reached sufficient board maturity for hipsterism?
Welp, let's hope it's not today Rome haters, tomorrow Hegelboos.

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Who is correct, /his/?
And by the way,
>ITT historical weapons
And whyLindybeige
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF_kxAqS_8k
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Skall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk0GBKaMcgE
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Lindybeige is love, Lindybeige is life. Well mate, though he sounds very ambigious at times and without grounds, it ceirtainly is "more" correct. A Longsword and a Bastard sword are not the bloody same thing. And Lindy manages to get his point across.
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How can one man be so beige?
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>>409628
Im not exactly knowledgeable in the subject but from my understanding the longsword and the bastard sword are two individual swords generally determined by their length and weight.

Though from what I know Lindybeige mixed the two. The larger two handed sword was the bastard sword and the shorter hand/hand and a half sword was a longsword. Though maybe I'm misinformed.

Did the ancient Egyptians deliberately hide evidence of the Exodus and the Jews building the pyramids? Does this have any basis in fact?
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>>409622
Yes, the Egyptians were notorious for pressing the delete key on events and peoples.
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>>409622
pyramids were known to have been built by paid laborers and volunteers .
There is literally no evidence corroborating the exodus
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>>410338
>There is literally no evidence corroborating the exodus

Except for like Goshen.
And all those Egyptian records from preserved by non-Egyptians.
Stay delusional.

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What went wrong?
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>>409548
Just about everything.
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nothing
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communism destroys everything it touches. and people still have the ignorancy to support it

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What the hell happened ? why weren't all the communists killed early in the war, and later in the war why did a american trained and backed army with the latest weapons loose ? What am i missing ?
>also general chinese civil war thread
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>>409350
no input guise ?
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>why did a american trained and backed army with the latest weapons loose ?

Because American trained armies with the latest weapons have a shitty track record, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq. Also because when the Japs invaded they were effectively fighting a two front war against both commies and Japs.
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>>409350
>why weren't all the communists killed early in the war
They were allies VS. the warlords initially, as KMT and CCP were buttbuddies in the fight against the Northern Generals.
When that was over, the KMT tried to actually Order 66 the CCP, but the nationalists didn't get everyone. CCP then staged a fighting withdrawal now known as the Long March. Which consolidated the frontline between KMT and CCP

And then Japs had to ruin everything

Which was the most successful WW2 warship of each of the major countries? In the case of USA it's a no-brainer that it's Big E, but what about UK, Japan, France, Germany, Italy?
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You would honestly be better off asking for the most successful type of warship. For Germany it'd be uboats, America it'd be aircraft carriers, etc.
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>>409277

Otto Kretschner sank over 250,000 tonnes of shipping in a mere 2 and a half years of world war 2. He commanded several different U-Boats tho so the honor is split amongst them.

As for Japan's ships, it's hard to say. Most of their victorious early warships were sunk at Midway. Yamato, maybe?

No idea of what British, French or Italian ships. The British performed exceptionally bad in the Pacific for being so experienced at sea.
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I imagine it would be only minor, pyrrhic successes for the French and Italian warships.

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Any history of political/economical contacts between the Incas and the Mayas?

How connected were the premcolumbian people of America?
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>>409144
They raided each other for human sacrifices.
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>>409144
The Maya were no longer really relevant at all by the time the Incas were a thing. Plus, they were a collection of city-states too busy feuding with each other to go that far south.

The Aztec Empire had some distant contact and trade with the Incas, but basically the relations between the Aztecs and the Incas were like those between Rome and India: they were vaguely aware of the others' existence, but as far as they were concerned that was basically the edge of the world.
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The greeks were kinda like that it didn't prevent individuals from trading with India and other far reaches of the world much later on.

I assumed the Aztecs weren't big on trade but how was the trade network of pre columbian America? Did they maintain sea lanes running for thousands of kilometers along the coast or was it limited to caravans and intermediaries, and which other states were involved?

It's hard to find literature on the subject.

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The Scriptures prove that the giants of Genesis 6:4 died out. Genesis 7 tells of a worldwide Flood that God sent to destroy "all flesh" upon the earth (verse 21). Since these giants were simply a natural, genetic variation of human beings, they died along with the rest of the earth's population. The only humans to escape that catastrophe were Noah and his family.

Since Noah was of a stock of smaller people, most of his descendants were of his stature. However, some of the genes to produce giants survived through the wife of Ham, one of Noah's sons....
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The Nephilim were not giants. Their name literally means "fallen."
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>>408908

I don't think this is correct. Nephilim is the untranslated pronunciation, it means giants. You are right that they may have been the offspring of fallen angels although another explanation is that they were descended from Seth.
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>>408894
Hebrew bible found in the dead sea scrolls gives goliaths height as four cubits and one span which is about 198 cm or 6 foot 6 inches. He was literally just some really guy, not a giant. Later versions of the text have just upped his height for dramatic effect.

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Point out the flaws in my logic, /his/:

>Germany is famously blamed for starting both World Wars. However, I've always thought this as rather fallacious
>In WW1, the German Empire entered the war as an ally of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Shortly after, she declares war against Russia and France.
> At the end, Germany is largely blamed for the war (i.e. escalating a local conflict into a global war)
>Fast forward to WW2, Germany invades Poland,...
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but germans are stupid and nationalistic
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>>408206
Austria is to blame for both
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>>408206
>If Germany is to blame for WW1, given the circumstances, then by that logic Germany cannot be blamed for WW2
How so? You have not shown this.
>If Germany is not to blame for WW1, then the punishments bestowed on Germany for losing that war are unjustified, meaning Germany had casus belli to invade Poland
Actually, getting unjustly punished by someone doesn't give anyone a legitimate reason for attacking someone else, so, no, no casus belli.

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