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post historical figures that genuinely meant to do good but

-something backfired
-they were prevented
-random stuff happened

>inb4 Adolf Hitler 14/88 hurr durr

keep the /pol/ memes to yourself, I mean real tragic figures of history
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does oda nobunaga count?
He really tried to unite the japanese mainland and end the sengoku jidai, in the most bloody way possible, and almost managed to do it, but then got assasinated and everything he build up just crumbled back into its old state
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>>529128
>I mean real tragic figures of history
so... hitler?
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What does /hist/ think of the upcoming miniseries War & Peace?

>You can watch the first episode online right now is you aren't a complete speglord.
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>>528818

>upcoming

Hello, America!
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>>528829
Ya it hasn't been released yet bro.
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>>528836

Get a UK proxy from ZenMate and watch it on BBC iPlayer.

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>"thou shall not kill"
>continue to use hand sanitizer
>kill 99% of bacteria
I'm going to hell.
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>Do not wear blended cloth

Polycotton t-shirt
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>Eat pussy
>Violate leviticine dietary laws
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>>528807
When I was kid I didn't feel shit when killing a bug but when a grow up I feel bad about killing an ant

especially hearing the crack sound when I crash them

Russians keep saying they have never been conquered.
>Except that one time Naploeon captured your capital Moscow.
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>Manletpoleon
>relevant
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Mongols raped Russians back to stone age, and Poles conquered their capital.
Swedes were pretty close to destroying their capital as well as Turks.
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>>528697
well i guess the british conquered the united states in 1812 then

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Was it autism?
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I don't know because you can't know nuffin
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What's an entry level work to get into his philosophy?
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>>528573
You don't

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Here's one for you lads.
Did he ever stand a chance of winning? Or was the South just too resource poor to win? Could he have done more to achieve European recognition.
How could he have better handled the Bragg affair?
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>>528553
>Did he ever stand a chance of winning?

yeah, kinda. The south was winning up until about 1863.

But then again, as the late great Shelbey Foote said, the North was fighting the war with one arm behind its back, and if it really got desperate enough, it would have just gone all out
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>>528553
>Did he (Jefferson Davis/The South) ever stand a chance of winning?

Actually yes. In the initial stages of the war, when both sides were particularly even in force standing and minus Staff Generals, The South had its greatest chance. The strategy of both sides was to effectively make this a quick war.

Even then that's only accounting for manpower. Unfortunately the Confederacy was out gunned at sea. What was the major disadvantage to the south though was it was very agrarian. Although it had sectors that were industrialized, its majority was food production as well as textiles. Where as the North not only had industrial power but also the food production abilities out of Ohio.

The South needed a quick victory because The South didn't have the ability to uphold a long running war.

If the first few battles went more into the Confederacies favor as well as an early hard pushes into Kentucky, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. It may have been a hugely different story. Most of the battles even though went into confederate favor or were indecisive. The victories were not significant enough to lay claim to a stable advantage.

As >>530133 said about 1863. The South had lost the ability to fight the growing advantage of the northern industrial power and man power that the North was able to maintain.
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>>530429
>leaves out that tons of Indians fought for the confederacy

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I'm not sure exactly where this question belongs but how exactly do nations eliminate both high level and petty corruption (Not to say that there is no corruption in Western nations but as far as I know petty corruption is largely extinct)? It seems to me that corruption is one of the biggest problems facing developing countries so my question is, how did Western countries manage to eliminate it? To add a further element, how was it dealt with in the past, in the Roman Empire or Qin China or any major civilization or note?

Pic unrelated.
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>>528508
>Pic unrelated.
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>Pic unrelated
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I wondered the same, so here's a non-cute bump.

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What does /his/ think of Austria-Hungary's role during the First World War? Do you think they contributed to the Central Powers or not? I'm really interested in hearing your opinion on this.
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They suffered a similar fuckup as Germans in the beginning, name had to suddenly redeploy divisions from Balkans to Russia.

However how they held the frontline in the Alps, consistently outnumbered against Italy is commendable.
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>>528504
They did pretty badly, being wrecked in Italy as well as the Russian front. Even the Ottomans ] had more victories IIRC
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They got absolutely BTFO by Serbs initially, until Potiorek got replaced and Germans stepped into the fray.

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Why is Critical Theory always aligned with the Left Wing? I generally agree with it but it almost always leads me to moral relativism which in turn leads me to very Right Wing beliefs. Is there an inherent bias already in academics who use Critical Theory so that they always come to Left Wing conclusions?

To describe my thought process. Like Critical theorists, I tend to see hypocrisies in all orthodox ideologies leading me down a path of moral relativism and materialism. Basically, humans are slaves to their emotions and desires, they will seek all avenues to fulfill...
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What happens in marxist circles stays in marxist circles, basically. Same reason current social justice has a weird comic book obsession, two discussions which take place in the same network will tend to merge into one if their contradictions aren't great enough to cause a split.
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>>528491
Because you are thinking of post-structuralism, which is not Critical Theory. The french deconstructivist school leads to New Right.
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>>528491

>Is there an inherent bias already in academics who use Critical Theory so that they always come to Left Wing conclusions?

No, there's an inherent bias in people who aren't critical of the Left-Right paradigm to view product of critical theory as "Left"

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Why on earth do Africans follow the Abrahamic faiths? Christians and Muslims enslaved them for centuries and many used theological justifications like the Curse of Ham
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>>528455
>Why on earth do Africans follow the Abrahamic faiths?
Africans were some of the first christians, m8
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>>528455
Because, for one, enslavement was not something unusual in Africa even prior to the arrival of Muslims and Christians. Many of the ones that were sold into both Christian and Muslim slavery were captured by their fellow Africans, regardless of religious standings.

Secondly, when it comes to the Christians, only West Africa really saw enslavement, and most of the people in Africa today don't have that great of interest in the past slave trade outside of general Post-Colonial resentments. Most of the conversions...
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>>528455
For the same reason Slavs, Turks, South Asians, and South Americans do. Integration into the gravy train that was Christian/Muslim economic and diplomatic world.

Is he right, /his/?
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>Philosophy

We tried that, didn't work.
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That is an unbelievably ignorant statement lol
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But science is just natural philosophy.

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How can one man fall so far

>Supported by John Maynard Keynes
>Supported by George Bernard Shaw
>Supported by Aneurin Bevan
>Supported by Franklin D. Roosevelt

>Supported by all the major papers
>Supported by supporters of both the Conservative and Labour party


from

>The greatest comet of British politics in the twentieth century...an...
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>>528370
He probably would have done much better if he hadn't tried to emulate Italian fascism so much.
The whole 'uniforms and shoulder button shirts' thing was very alien to British culture.
Forming the actual Blackshirts was his biggest mistake because it meant violence started by communists at Olympia could be turned around and blamed on him because of the harsh reaction of the blackshirts.
If he'd instead run it as a normal party, with a normal membership structure he could have had a shot at power.
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>>528510
His uniforms were based upon the British officer uniforms >.>
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>>528370

He made himself a laughing stock with the paramilitary thing.

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Any /his/tory teachers here? How do you engage your students and have them appreciate/enjoy/understand the subject without overwhelming them? Got any horror stories?
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>>528164
My concentration for my students is to teach them historical thinking skills.

>pic related

If they can demonstrate in their own words how to apply these skills to the historical content we are covering, then we are both succeeding; them as as student and I as a teacher.

I do a lot think pair share, project based learning, and interactive roleplaying. Toward the end of the year I really stress how history is contingent by asking them how events could have been different,...
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>>528164
>>528199
Forgot pic
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>>528164
I'm going to be on for about an hour, feel free to ask me more specific question OP while I'm here.

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Who were the mysterious "people of the sea"?
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Batavian terrorists
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>>528016

13th century BC Bahder-Meinhoff copycats.
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>>528016

I dunno but they sure got btfo by Egypt.

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Based Egalitarians thread.
Or just anyone who were more progressive than their surrondings.
Who else in history had their beliefs stuck in a century which deemed them radical?

Here's Thaddeus Stevens. A man who believed that Natives, blacks, and women among others deserve fair and equal treatment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaddeus_Stevens
http://www.historynet.com/thaddeus-stevens.htm
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>>527929
May have jumped the gun there. He definately believed the blacks deserved equality, I forgotten if he thought total equality for women was good and he simply wanted to protect the native americans from having their reservations taken control by the states.
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>Based
>Egalitarians
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>based
>egalitarianis

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