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anyone else here listen to classic music just because? I dont understand shit about it, I just listen to whatever sounds nice. It gets tiring to discover only 30 minutes albums over and over
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Literally everybody, special snowflake.
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I don't particularly """understand""" music either, but I practically only listen to classical and jazz because they happen to tickle my fancy

And also I can tell myself I'm more cultured than my pleb friends and nothing feels as good as that sense of superiority
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>>1418352
I mainly just like Shostakovich and Prokofiev. real "classical" like Bach I can't get into

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Is it more intelectually acceptable to be into paganism than being into christianism?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCyod8ziZpo
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You Paganfags are worst than Christfags
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>>1417462
THIS

fuck religoin..
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>>1417453
Who cares.

If you are a Christian, love your neighbor.

If you are Pagan love your neighbor.

How come northern Europe never developed?
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but it did
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>>1424043
>>1424047

Yeah now it is, but that's imported civilization. How come they never deceleration on their own?

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Do animals go to heaven?
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Do humans?
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Goats go to Muslim heaven.

You know those 72 virgins?
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>>1421320
They have to otherwise what would we eat in heaven?

At what points do the external or internal threats to a nation merit said nation abandoning concepts like liberty, due process, democracy etc?

Does only the threat of total annihilation qualify or do other, lesser threats merit softer dictatorships? What about economic threats? Can a looming depression/recession merit abandoning a democratic constitution?
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>>1426832
>At what points do the external or internal threats to a nation merit said nation abandoning concepts like liberty, due process, democracy etc?
There is no point that should ever be a possibility. If there is an internal or external threat, you don't appease it and try to prevent it by giving more powers to surveillance agencies. You fight that threat. You bomb the shit out of them. You arrest them. You make them fear you more than you fear them.

>Does...
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>>1426832
Please mention one practical instance in which you believe restricting personal freedoms can help fighting one of those "threats". I'll start off by refuting the ideas you brought up.

>total annihilation
The closest we'll ever get to that is a MAD scenario. And I don't see how you're going to increase the effectiveness of the nuclear triad by telling media to shut up. Freedom of speech does not affect the trajectory of ICBMs in a nuclear war, so...
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You can't win the war if you lose the argument.

Or can you? America won the Cold War, but only by conceding the argument over whether strict top-down control was the best way to organize a state.

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Let's have a monarchy thread!

Who did monarchy best?
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Medieval Hungary probably, but then again I'm biased.
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>>1424829
The French
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Clearly France.

>all the kings were actually French
>all the same line from 888 to 1830, and without interruption from 987 to 1792
>each king the direct successor of the previous one by the exact same rules of succession
>absolute monarchy, none of that parliamentary aristocrat puppet bullshit
>also happens to be the most powerful dynasty in history

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>tfw ywn be a duke of some Mediterranean island during medieval times
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Wouldnt I have to fight muslims then?

Not that I wont have to do that soon anyway once the world collapses
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>ywn blast mujahideen from a Hind wile playing Кинo during the 80's Afghan war
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How many mediterranean Islands had Dukes, other than Sicily for a little time?

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Redpill me on the civil war.

In school I was always taught that it was fought because of slaves, but on /pol/ they say it wasn't.

What was it really fought over?
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>>1419765
don't believe anything /pol/ says. in fact, almost always go with the opposite of what they say and you have your answer.
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>>1419765
I rather wonder why the North just didn't let the South secede.
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>>1419765
>but on /pol/ they say it wasn't.
shocking.
It was about states rights OP. [spoiler]in particular the right to own slaves.[/spoiler]

Have you ever watched a show that takes place in pre-bathroom era and wondered how bad people must have smelled ?
Like, they didn't have access to toothpaste nor deodorant.
Imagine trying to perform cunnilingus to a girl from those times.
Disgusting
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People smelled fine. Modern plumbing fixtures diminish the time spent on hygiene and support the infrastructure for a larger population rather than make people cleaner.
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>>1426267
>pre-bathroom era
No such thing. Without-Bathroom cultures makes more sense

Anyway, body odours are full of pheromones which invoke things in humans but are now mostly dead.
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>>1426267
satantango by bela tarr has a nice ass/vagina wipe scene

do check it out if you have the chance, hungary's finest

What caused the Anglo proclivity for liberalism?
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>>1428554
Disenfranchised dirty masses in periods between insurrection requiring placating. Also the inner nignog inside all lazy people who expect someone else to provide or they go chimp like entitlement whores.
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>>1428554
Jews.
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>>1428582
Germany had more

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Why did Young Earth Creationism and creation science/intelligent design evolve in American theology?
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It didn't, it's simply the logical conclusion of Christianity, which states that everyone and everything should pander to Christians, even reality itself, and that if it doesn't, they're going to throw hissy fits, yell, lie, scream and swindle until they get what they want
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>>1428379
Christianity wasn't an arm of the state as in Europe, allowing heresy to flourish.
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Because American Christianity is mostly Protestant. In Europe Catholics managed to reconcile Science and Theology or rather just them keep separate. European Protestants close by just followed the example.
Those in the US developed separately.

Help me out /his/

Christian: Something can't come from nothing
Atheist: Then where did God come from?
Christian: He has always existed
Atheist: If God has always existed, it would have taken an infinite amount of time to get from the beginning to today, meaning it would be impossible for it to be now.
Christian:
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>>1428299
Stop applying rationale from this universe to a being that's obviously from a higher one.
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>>1428299

1. TIME IS NOT A THING IN ITSELF, BUT ONLY A MEASURE FOR EVENTS, AND PROCESSES.

2. EVENTS, AND PROCESSES, ONLY OCCUR, AND TRANSCUR, IN THE KOSMOS; ID EST: TIME IS EXCLUSIVE TO THE KOSMOS.

3. GOD PERSISTS BEYOND THE KOSMOS; TIME DOES NOT APPLY TO GOD.
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> If God has always existed, it would have taken an infinite amount of time to get from the beginning to today, meaning it would be impossible for it to be now.

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What do non-religious philosophers say we should do after having done something immoral?

Everyone slips up now and then, and we come to realize what we've done was immoral. Should we punish ourselves? Just move on as if it's nothing?
Looking specifically for what acclaimed philosophers have wrote/said about this (not just your own personal opinion).
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>>1427932
First of all, if you are not religious you do not have morales. Morality comes from righteousness. If you are not religious then you do not believe in a 'right and wrong' but instead you have integrity.

For example I do not think killing is wrong. But I would not kill another human being. Because that goes against my integrity, I would be stripping that person of their freedom. Their life.

So what to do when one acts in a manner that defies their own integrity. Will punishment do anything? You...
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Don't do it again.
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>>1427932
Determine and implement a course of action that will lead to non-recurrence of this mistake in the future.

For some things punishment might be the way that you keep yourself from making further mistakes but that's up to the individual. For some things society may decide it needs to become involved in the process of ensuring non-recurrence of the mistake.

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>You stumble upon a simply designed empty dog house in a desert
>"someone must have designed this dog house!"

>You live in a incomprehensibly complex universe, with a incomprehensibly complex pink lump processing information in your head
>"product of random processes of mindless nature"

how does this make sense to atheists
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I'm not an atheist, but there's no contradiction there. You just need to understand the evolutionary processes and the timescales involved.
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>>1427278
>You just need to understand the evolutionary processes and the timescales involved.
okay... well I'm waiting
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>>1427286
For what? You want me to explain to you how evolution works? Didn't you learn that in school?

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Is logic and reason objective, or simply a product of nature?
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uhh
objective.
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>>1427070
both
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>>1427070
either, both or neither

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