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Logic is good because it's the most objective tool available to us. But why is objectivity good? Why should I care about what is objective?
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>>1340719
>But why is objectivity good? Why should I care about what is objective?
Because it is reality, the only thing that exists, superretard
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>>1340727
Why is reality good?
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>>1340771
Because its your friend trust it and you will be better off

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Don't know if this is an overdone topic since I don't normally go on this board but what does /his/ think about Jury Nullification?
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In my opinion it's a good thing. If an entire jury, rigorously selected, agrees that a "crime" isn't worth being punished for, then it shouldn't be.
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Leaving the task of making a balanced and well thought out legal decision up to a bunch of random assholes is usually not ideal in the first place. Add a dash of having lawyers who actually research how best to manipulate juries and you've got a jolly old time.

There's a place for juries, but you can't assume they'll be rational.
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It will get you rejected from jury duty quicker than a rock in compton

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Read through the following list of 20th century crimes against humanity and post whether they happened, happened but modern interpretations are over-exaggerated, or didn't happen and are 100% hoax:

>Ottoman genocides during WW1 (Greek, Armenian, Assyrian)
>various funstuff committed by commies during the Russian Civil War
>Holodomor
>Stalinist purges
>Rape of Nanking
>Holocaust
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>>1340400
>No
>Happened
>Yes
>Sure
>Of course
>Yep
>Yeah
>Indeed
>Pretty much
>Definitely
>Obviously
>That was broadcasted on fucking radio
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>>1340457
qeq
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>>1340400
Nice b8 m8

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Machiavelli wrote The Prince as a guide for how princes should maintain power, where morals DONT matter. How would Aristotle or Plato respond?
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>>1340390
Don't be a jerk because you succumb to base desires like the lust for power.

You should want to do good, not see good and evil as a means to an end.
Good is an end in itself.
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>>1340390
we all know Intro to Western Political Thought is a tough class, friend, but we're not writing your paper for you.
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>>1340390
>Machiavelli wrote The Prince as a guide for how princes should maintain power, where morals DONT matter.

"no"

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Would anything have turned out differently had France and England declared war on Germany after invading Czechoslovakia?
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>>1340356
Poland would be free
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As i recall Czechoslovakia was in a better position to defend itself than Poland ever was due to the terrain and already in place fortefications.
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>>1340433

This is true, and as an added effect, Germany wasn't nearly as strong in 1938 as they would be in 1939.

However, I'm pretty sure that Britain and France were also considerably weaker, although I haven't done a lot of reading on how much, but I know Britain for instance almost doubled her defense spending post-Munich.

How that new equation would turn out is something I don't feel qualified to make claims about.

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I'll start with Cesare Borgia.
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>>1340344
Underrated in what sense? What did that incestuous, spoiled brat ever accomplish other than a failed military career and being son of a corrupt pope?
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>>1340350
Being the source of modern jesus portraits?
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How was he underrated? Machiavelli wrote a book about him. A book that's part of the canon in most countries.

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Tell me about Antoninus Pius. Was he a good emperor? Marcus Aurelius admires him a lot, and he is generally considered one of the best emperors.

Can anyone rec me a book on the lives of the emperors?
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>>1340265
Little is known about him because little was written down in his time. His reign was so peaceful and comfy that historians couldn't think of anything to write about.
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>>1340265
Hadrian intended him to be a stop gap between himself and Marcus Aurelius. Unfortunately he just kept living. Antoninus benefited from the success of Hadrian and was an able administrator. However he lacked the vision and initiative that defined the reigns of his predecessors. This would lead to a difficult reign for Marcus Aurelius where many of the problems ignored by Antoninus exploded with disastrous results.
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>>1340629
Basically everything that could be said about him.

He does deserve props though for not letting the Senate and patricians drag Hadrian's name through the mud and stood up for him, even though he knew he was just a stop gap for Aurelius.

Was there ever such a thing as honor or glory on the field of battle?
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Yeah sure why not.

ALTERNATE POST:

>honor
>glory
>stirner.jpg
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>>1340251

Yes. In ritual battles and war. Also some glory in raiding. As soon as combat was switched from ritual warfare to massed engagements, most of the honor was lost. With the advent modern (total) warfare, there-s little glory to be gained either.
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>>1340295

Also, ww2 sniper duels were among (if not THE) the last forms of semi-ritual warfare left.

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What is /his/'s opinion of Evolution of Evil on the American Heroes Channel?

A well rounded take on history or just a list American enemies throughout history with nothing but cherry picking?
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>>1340188

Never heard of AHC.

>Stalin
Legit psychopath, reputedly enjoyed signing death warrants so much he would stay up late into the night to do it.
>Hirohito
Not evil in any sense, just a figurehead "ruler" with no power.
>Qaddaffi
Malignant narcissist and child killer, legit evil.
>Hitler
Romantic idealist who drank so deeply of the ideological kool-aid that he...
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>>1340236
>Hirohito
I believe that is Tojo.
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>>1340249

You're right. They all look the same to
me. Anyway, Tojo was man caught on teh horns of a dilemma, not evil even tho the military he ordered committed many evil acts, just a ruthless racist (which was the norm back then.)

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Do you hold historical scientists morally accountable?

Joseph Goldberger, assigned to study pellagra by the surgeon general, fed prisoners a restricted diet which he believed would induce pellagra. But this diet of corn, coffee, and cabbage was considered healthy by most people at the time, only Goldberger thought it would be harmful. No one accepted he was right until after the pellagra-stricken prisoners were released
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>>1339962
>Goldberger
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>>1340026
Your scare-greentext doesn't really work if it's the man who discovered how to cure pellagra
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I suppose it depends on what you view as wrong and whether or not the benefits of such horrible experiments were good for humanity.

As far as I am aware of, they tested Smallpox vaccines on orphaned children and prisoners before providing it to the aristocracy, and they used orphans to carry cowpox across the pond to the USA to start treatments there. Obviously the benefits of smallpox vaccines are apparent.

As a scientist and someone who loves to engage in philosophy, I kinda have a weird perspective into both worlds, considering I have seen people who'd...
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Waterloo movie appreciation thread?
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Back in the late 70's they used to run this late at night. Never during the early evening though.

Lost a lot of sleep watching this whenever it came on.
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Damn good film.
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Weirdest thing is that the movie was made by the Soviets and used actual soviet soldiers as extras.

>tfw I finally understand what this means
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>>1339367
But if you know nothing, how do you know you truly understand the quote?
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>>1339367
No you don't. I do on the other hand. Trust me. I'm a genius.
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>>1339369
the quote is more about being aware that eventually you know nothing and that you should always seek knowledge with an innocent manner, as if you don't know anything and always wish to learn more, it's a manner of approach to knowledge so you won't get too self-confident and make ethical mistakes, not to reject all knowledge as unattainable.

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'm writing an article about how Lebanon from being major Christian state became muslim majority country. Maybe you could tell me about this or maybe you could send me some statistics about population growth/decline?
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>>1339194
You're obviously not qualified to write this article. Who commissioned it? Was it a major news organisation?
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No. I belong to organization against mass immigration to Europe. Basically what I've read that christian/muslim population changed during 2nd part of 20th century. But I can't find any statistics more or less about Lebanon population in 1910s, 1920s. And I have a bacherol degree in history as history teacher
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>>1339205
I sincerely hope the article is not in English.

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>The Classical Greeks were a society of homosexuals
>The Classical Greeks were a society of pederasts

How true are the above statements?

Are they firmly grounded in fact, or are they primarily a product of smears by later conquerors?

Or is it just our modern prudishness that magnifies something which wasn't a big deal or particularly significant back then, and so shouldn't be now?
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>>1339139

Not doing your homework for you.
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Basically in Ancient Greece is was seen as strange to walk in public with a women but a young male was a status symbol, whist may believe the relationship was homosexual in truth it was more a business arrangement with the young male mingling with the upper classes and the older male being seen as strong and rich
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>>1339152
Apollo Akbar :^)

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Redpill me on Waterloo
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>>1338856
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I think Waterloo is the most important battle of the Napoleonic wars, France lost and he was sent to St. Helena to rot and Europe was at peace for the first time for hundreds of years.
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>>1338856


Not that big of a deal. Napoleonic France was nowhere near as strong as it used to be. If he had somehow won, another coalition would have formed, more troops would have been mobilized, and he'd have been stomped.

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