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Are cellular automata useless?
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more or less
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>>8203433
They are too simple to be useful models, they are nice as examples that simple structures can be very hard to analyze and have surprising properties because you can visualize them (in contrast to e.g. lambda calculus)
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>>8203433
I tried reading A New Kind of Science by Wolfram, he goes on and on about how his analysis of automata will have a profound impact in every field of study, but it comes across as 100% bunk.

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Am I wrong?

kilogram = SI unit for mass
mass = measure of matter irrespective of gravity
weight = measure of force applied by a mass under gravity

heaviness denotes weight and thus because lead is denser than feathers, a kg of lead would apply more force than 1kg of feathers under earths gravity??

THIS IS NOT A TROLL
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>>8203212

That is weight is measured in newtons.

Therefore 1kg of lead is heavier.
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Being more dense doesn't change anything if the weight total is 1 kg.
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>>8203218

Yeah I just realized I am an idiot. Thanks Yahoo! Ansers :)

"1 kilogram is a mass. Weight is mass times the accelleration due to gravity, which on earth is about 9.8 meters per second squared. Thus both the feathers/butter and the lead weigh about 9.8 newtons or 2.2 pounds. "

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Does anyone have the 2016 puzzle?
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tfw i learned about that in number theory last semester and actually know what it means c:
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>>8203362
Please do tell
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>>8203368

it's euler's function and it gives the carnality of the group of units mod(n)

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This book is a proof that psychology is a real science and that it's actually useful, and not a meme.

What do you think about it /sci/?
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>>8202389
Well, maybe it is because this is a commercial book and not a research paper.

I mean, if I was a psychologist looking to make easy money then all I would have to do is spend some time looking for the 30% of psych research that is not bullshit, compile it into a book for the average reader and then sell that shit.
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>>8202389

It's a layman friendly text that uses analogies and doesn't really go into any depth regarding the neuroscience aspect of psychology.

It's a good start.

If you want a similar thing that goes into a bit more detail and also has a narrative, then I’d recommend Memoirs of an Addicted Brain by Marc Lewis.
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>>8202389
Interested to hear this as well. I've seen that book gotten recommended dozens of time.

What were the main three aspects did you guys learned from this book?

Thanks

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For the past couple of class periods, my Physics professor has been going on rants regarding Electric Cars - telling his students to not bother buying Electric cars because Hydrogen Fuel cars will become a thing in 10-15 years. Does he have a point /sci/? Or is he just talking nonsense? From what I've heard and read in the past, hydro fuel isn't as viable as electric.
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>>8202096
Hydrogen will never be this clean futurist fuel that will power everything. It could be a clean-ish energy storage system, but production involves large amounts of electricity, which leads to a minor energy bonus when proper electrolytes and catalysts are used. As such, you wind up putting a lot of effort into an unstable energy storage system which drives an engine that doesn't put out any more horsepower than an electric car, all with a comparable range to the electric car.

In layman's terms, hydrogen probably won't be able to compete with electric vehicles in any impressive way. Shut up and let the professor stroke his intelligence and kiss ass for your grade's sake.
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>>8202096
he might. multiple OEMs are working on fast-response hydrogen cells and have come quite far already. plus, batteries have always been the natural enemy of car OEMs since they're fucking expensive and there's no real leverage over corporations like Samsung, who provide them.

so much for the pros. the cons are, and have remained for quite some time:
- production and distribution of hydrogen in a safe manner is a nightmare, same for costs
- batteries are still getting better at enormous rates, so the jury is still out on which technology will have less drawbacks
- producing hydrogen cells is not exactly a manufacturer's dream, even compared to buying battery cells and even if they're awesome
- the cost of transferring vast networks of contracted workshops to new technology are at least estimatable for electric with batteries; for hydrogen cells, nobody knows

so yeah. he might be right. difficult to say right now. then again, 10-15 years is probably what you can expect from current electric cars in terms of economically sensible life expectancy, so if you want to buy an electric ride now, go ahead - you'll need a new one in at most 10-15 years anyway.
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>>8202116
>shut up and let the professor stroke his intelligence and kiss ass for your grade's sake

exactly what I've been doing. thanks for the reply!

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Is bioinformatics a meme field?
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>>8202031
no
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>>8202031
What I find funny is that memetics is the biggest meme field. No one takes it serious except some admirers of Richard Dawkins, such as Redditors and Daniel Dennet.
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>>8202031
Yes.

It's shit tier. Literally code-monkeying for biologists.

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hey guys i 've learned something i want to share

that evolution isn't the same as evolvoling because evolution is a process unstopaable by reality because its fundamental to the nature that its not human but of all animals in general

so when you say that something is evolved then you mean that is evoloving but not the evolved because animals and humans share it at the saem time because its vital to all creatures to be evolving but not evolved

it it chanegd everything of how i learn of consciousenss that isn't the same evolving time

it's...
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>>8201813
Nothing evolves unless it has pressure to do so, the only exception is cancerous mutations.
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>>8201813
This reminds me of something I discovered recently related to evolution: The main story people want us to believe is that 4-6 million years ago, humans didn't exist, and that we had a common ancestor with a chimpanzee. They say that this "wan't a chimp" but that it also "wasn't a human." So that means it would have to have features of both. The problem is, chimpanzees don't have features of both, and humans don't have features of both. If humans and chimps don't have...
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>>8201824
This is wrong, evolution is defined as change in gene frequencies, which happens all the time. Natural selection is just one of the forces driving evolution.

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Anybody here into doing your own planetary and star sightings?
I'm looking into getting a decent beginner telescope for myself, probably a 200/1200 dobson. At first I thought about chosing a 150/1200, but the upgrade to a 8" seems a good choice if you also want to see some of the objects outside our solar system.

I think it's going to be one of these two:
Skywatcher Dobson telescope N 200/1200 Skyliner Classic
GSO Dobson telescope N 200/1200
I can get both for ~375€.

If /sci/ is not the board for this, sorry.
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> ~375€
thats a lot dude :V are they any good ?
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>>8201833
I'm not sure if you're trolling with that post, but I haven't actually bought one yet (let alone two).

My summer gratification money was ~3600€, so I got enough left to spend on something nice.
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>>8201833
Dobsonian mount telescopes are usually the best bang for the buck

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Shouldn't psychology be considered a branch of philosophy, instead of masquerading around as an established science?

Modern day science begun as philosophy, but psychology hasn't evolved to anything tangible and still remains discussing abstract concepts and ideas with anything of substance instead discovered through neuroscience. Thoughts?
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>>8200283
Psychology is closer to natural sciences than to philosophy.

I mean the problem with psychology is that it is too easy to just insert your political opinions into it, making it a 'quest for what you want to be true', like philosophy, but it still uses the scientific method.

We need regulations, as we discovered some time ago (70&% of psych research found to be bs) that psychologists cannot regulate themselves.

We need an institution that hires psychology bachelors or higher that approves...
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>>8200283
Psychology should be more scientific imo.

Now:
>printing press
>not technology
though the claim it's making us anti-social is silly, rather it's enabling us to not have to be social. I sometimes wonder how social we are as a species really, if it's a matter of circumstance more than a matter of instinct. I think we're less social than we think we are, only social because we need to be to survive but provide a means of doing...
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>>8200313
That sounds like a good idea, I see what you mean about publishing bullshit. There was anon the other day that said he had made up 50% of his statistics in his peer-reviewed sociology journal which made me cringe.

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Would humans ever make it to space if WW2 never happened? To shut up any people who'll tell me WW2 would've happened no matter what let's just say Hitler got shot in WW1 and died. How long would it take to develop rocket technology with no Nazis and no V2?
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>>8199869
All I can say is that a great deal of tech comes from the military:

internet
sattellites
rockets obviously
GPS
nuclear energy ?¿
radar
computers where rushed out for the enigma thing
(more examples anybody)
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>>8199869
With or without Hitler, the Treaty of Versailles was destroying Germany. Someone other than Hitler would have taken his place.
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>>8199887
maybe, but the chances of another crazy fascist planning to genocide all Jews in camps taking power would be low. It'd likely be a communist authoritarian government instead. But that's besides the point because in this hypothetical world no WW2 ever happens

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Hey, some guy just came up to me and said "I have two kids, and I'll tell you that one of them at least is a girl. What would you wager that you can guess whether my other child is a boy or a girl?"

Wut do?
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There's no way to tell because there are far to many variables affecting the sex of a child
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>>8204348
That's completely spot on. Le reddit doesn't seem to think so.

https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/4spwm1/in_the_famous_question_i_have_2_kids_one_is_a/

This shit is hilarious.
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>>8204355
>/r/math

if you want to suppose that it's a perfect system it would be a 3/4th chance of being a boy and a 1/4th chance of being a girl

tell me that's the conclusion they came to I don't want to look

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A civil servant missing most of his brain challenges our most basic theories of consciousness


http://qz.com/722614/a-civil-servant-missing-most-of-his-brain-challenges-our-most-basic-theories-of-consciousness/

Can someone in neuroscience please explain what in the actual fuck in going on?

Tl;dr:
>Man has hydrocephalus
>90% of his brain tissue is lost
>IQ of 75. Still maintains functional movement, communications, language, abstract undestanding, mathematical skills,...
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The parts of his mind that control critical thinking, memory and bodily function are still intact.

I bet he dies before 60
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>>8200577
It looks like he is missing the tissue from inside his brain. Honestly, most of what people think of the brain is actually just the cerebral cortex (surface of the cerebrum, which he has). Of course, as I understand it, the insides of the brain are important too because they provide connections to different places on the cerebral cortex. By the way, I'm not really a neuroscience fag. I took a single neuroscience class and mostly focused on drug chemistry.
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>>8200577

Neuroplasticity and the extremely slow rate of erosion allowed for adaptive rewiring.

Pretty cool, OP.

Thanks for sharing.

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What does it feel like to be a genius?
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It feels like unmitigated contempt for those less intelligent than you

In other words, it's indistinguishable from being a douchebag
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Same way it feels to be an accomplished author, except you get to make people toys instead of interesting fiction
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It feels alone.

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Has anyone read Cybernetics?
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>>8191901
> anyone

probably
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You don't want their implants.
Best to stay natural.
They'll get you with the implants.
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>>8191901
bump

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I know what false syllogism is and some examples of it, like:
-Some cats are pets
-Some pets are dogs
-Some dogs are cats
>Obvious false syllogism.

Now to what i believe is a fail in describing a false syllogism in pic related.

Can't decide who i hate more
>the woman, for getting the question right for the completely wrong reasons,
>or nigger, for thinking he's right for thinking this question is an example of false syllogism.

1. This (incorrectly)...
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>>8204877
>Any other opinion from you guys?
I think you're getting upset over nothing.

Anyway, what makes you think the woman got the answer right for the wrong reasons? You worked it out, didn't you?
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>>8204904
>I think you're getting upset over nothing.

I just participated in a thread, where people called me mentally ill and thick retarded fuck...

...for thinking like that, i sort of wanted a neutral opinion from the sanest board on 4chan.
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>>8204913
It's still 4chan, you thick retarded fuck.

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