I was just reading about AlHazen (Ibn Al-Hatham). From almost every source I've read from, people agree that despite being virtually unknown in the modern West, he was an extremely important figure in the history and philosophy of science, as his experiments in optics were essentially the first step in the development of what would one day be called the scientific method.
Black science man despite being really critical to religion (including Islam), he admits that "Ibn al-Haytham was the first person ever to set down the rules of science."
Alhazen's key ideology was that God made the world difficult to understand and that skepticism and critical analysis were the only way to illuminate God's creation.
He is thus an excellent counterexample to the idea that religious belief necessarily stifles scientific thought
My question is, why didn't we learn more about this, and if Muslims (this guy was a devout Muslim and Arab from Cairo, not a Persian) were like this in the early years of Islam, what the fuck happened? They are completely horseshit when it comes to science now. Most of them are anti-science. How did they fuck up so badly?
>>8148194
You know that Muslims became extremely anti-Western, and anti-
science after the invasion of Palestine, and even more after the Irak intervention by the USA.
>>8148209
Hmm didn't think about it
I've been doing some research, it seems there were always anti-science extremists, even during the time of Islam's pro-science age. These people were mostly ignored and unheard of, but when Baghdad got sacked by Mongols, and libraries were burnt and scientists were slaughtered, these people came out and went "See, this is God's punishment for studying science, instead of praying and worshipping him"
Then when the exact same thing happened in Cordoba, this further consolidated the anti-science position.
>>8148215
Intresting, I will try to find some information about the events you talk about. But i think there is another explanation : "Islam's pro-science age" took place at a moment where Western Science was almost non existent, due to the catholics censoring everything which wasn't in accordance with the Bible. So the Muslim scientists of this period (XIe to XIVe) are better known that those of other periods.Even tho there has been Muslim scientists at any period. But I really think that the fact that anti-science is so importanat in Islam is something very recent.
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/675389/Babies-higher-risk-ADHD-mother-smoking
They just won't fucking stop linking smoking to as many unrelated diseases and conditions as they can, won't they?
When will the scientific community finally snap out of it and realize correlation =/= causation?
https://www.sott.net/article/268159-The-myth-of-smoking-during-pregnancy-being-harmful
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-514330/Smoking-months-pregnancy-does-harm-baby.html
why are you pro-smoking and making these dumb threads you cancerbag retard ? do you enjoy misinforming people ? did marlboro put you on payroll or something ?
>>8141189
>shill gambit
Come on, why stoop that low?
I think it's pretty clear there is far more to the "smoking is bad" story than what people are accepting as fact. Far too many times, other factors are involved. Far too many times the "science" is just shirty surveys like the ones in the 1950's that were manipulated to get the desired results of the researchers (and I'm pretty sure THAT is pseudoscience).
If there is a genetic reason, or another cause behind these supposed smoking-related problems altogether, then people have a right to know and understand all of the facts involved.
>>8141201
So they're printing these just for the fuck of it ?
Use this /sqt/ to post questions that don't deserve their own thread. Last thread:
>>8117451
>>8135619
Girls und panzer?
This is my question. Let's say I have x=cos t and y=sin t, and I'm asked to plot from 0 degrees to 60 degrees, get the equation of the tangent when t=20 and lots of other stuff like that.
What's the name of the topic I gotta lookup to find this stuff? It's related to vector calculus.
is it worth pursuing a degree in chemistry? i've realised i love it, even the incredibly boring bits
why french are best?
It's probably in their genes but we can't study it because of politically correct SJW libtards.
>>8142873
Why do the French love showing people their gold coins?
>>8142873
I don't know, are we? What does "good at mathematics" even mean anyway? Cause academically speaking I really doubt your average French math student is any better than another. Even the West African curriculums are way more complicated than ours.
How close are we in genetic terms? I've heard 95% from some and 99% from others. I think it's about 97%, but I'm just a layman.
define close
>>8138076
I mean as in "how closely related are we?"
>>8138077
>retard detected
Go take a course in math and biological phylogeny, idiot
What are the biggest memes in each field?
Physics: cold fusion
Mathematics: set theory
Computer science: P=NP
Biology: telomerase
Chemistry: buckyball
/thread
>>8143032
That's actually really accurate, f am
>>8143032
Quantum Mechanics: many worlds
Cosmology: wormholes
Astronautics: warp drive
What are the most reputable engineering schools? Pic related.
>>8105134
Well I know that Jim's whorehouse in downtown Denver can teach you the best skills an engineer can have, cock sucking and taking it up the ass.
>>8105136
>Butthurt mathfag detected
I'm sure your knowledge of theoretical nth dimensional geometric spaces has made you incredibly marketable. How do you turndown all those job offers?
MIT Stanford Caltech?
If you're not capable of going through this at the age of 18 after finishing high school tier maths (AP classes not necessary) then you will never make it. No ifs, no buts, no excuses. And knowing of its existence is the indicator that you have the interest for rigorous scholarship in the first place, which means that claiming that you hadn't heard of it puts you in the hopeless category.
>>8144680
Thanks for letting us know.
I can probably go through it, but I can't buy it in my country
Thanks for the opinion m8
Alright, let's talk about blood donation/transfusion /sci/.
Is it a safe procedure for the donor? I mean, is our body ok with losing 500ml of blood in a day?
>>8142504
yes.
In fact, if you have too much iron in your blood, you even should give blood.
>I mean, is our body ok with losing 500ml of blood in a day?
not always
that's why people sometimes faint or feel ill after donating
What does /sci/ think about this blooks song? Should normal people drop out of school?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xe6nLVXEC0
Yes but you have to start working somewhere.
>>8143133
I watched 1/3 of it. Nearly everything he mentioned he wasn't taught is a college course. Including first aid. Not that we shouldn't push a lot of shit into general education.
Promoting antiintellectualism is wrong.
Now, I know that the quality of schools is generally pretty awful in the US, but all these things he mentioned are reasonable important and you can expect people to know them, if they're taught properly.
Obviously this appeals to the idea that you study for the sake of knowing things.
What does /sci/ think about xkcdHatGuy? I think he's a literal genius. He has more videos on his youtube, and a soundcloud, but I don't think anyone knows his name or what he's up to (what university he goes/went to, what major, etc.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGguwYPC32I
He's really not. He paid attention in physics class.
he's got a very soothing voice for a 12 years old
he looks CGI
>"Physics is to math what sex is to masturbation."
what did he mean by this
>>8144217
Physicists get really frisky with each other.
>>8144217
>Having sex
>Masturbating
>2016
>Not doing math 22 hours a day
Wew Lad
>>8144217
Sex is the big brother of masturbation so physics is the big brother of math
Very often you see modern portrayals of the Neanderthals as being human-like, although inferior since, as far as we can tell, they never had culture. However, the fact is often overlooked that they had larger brains than we do today. In fact, they were superior to us, and we were the disgusting third world intruders into the land of Neanderthals, and through wave upon wave of migrant modern man into Europe, we out bred Neanderthals into extinction.
But this part I would like to stress. We were not superior to them because of their lack of culture. In fact, it is the opposite! They, Neanderthals, were the true godkings of pure logic! Consequently, they saw the meaninglessness of it all, and instead concerned themselves with purely logical pursuits.
Prove me wrong.
Protip: you can't.
>>8143068
>>8143086
Wow.
I think you're right OP. Neanderthals were probably an order or two smarte than us.
I actually wrote a paper on the topic that Neanderthals were just humans that were highly specialized due to geographic isolation. Neanderthals have the same number of bones as humans, have the structures/genes for language, and have evidence of art, burial rituals, and even a bone flute. Neanderthals aren't superior to humans because their diet wasn't as varied as ours. Due to what many paleontologists have found so far Neanderthals may not have been as versatile as the humans that quickly ended up displacing them over time. It's unknown why the Neanderthal ultimately vanished, but whatever it was it definitely had a strong cro-magnon element.
TL;DR it isn't about intelligence, but adaptability. Also, a larger brain size doesn't always corrolate with intelligence.
>>8143068
>>8143086
Top quality cnotributions. Why do you have to make it so obvious that you're sjwtards ?
back to your cage
>>>/trash/
Google is working on a flying car.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-09/welcome-to-larry-page-s-secret-flying-car-factories
Google is working on many things
post the helicopter vs flying car efficiency graph
>>8142522
I cant wait! Will it have Google Glass support?
Launch tread for the next SpaceX launch.
Get in here, faggots and shitposters.
>T-18 hours and counting.
Also
https://spacexstats.com/missions/eutelsat-117w-b-abs-2a
https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
Looks like June and July will be packed with launches
Will Musk be the god-emperor?
>>8142268
Who is the guy in the middle of that picture anyway?
![image09[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/WYnyjYd.png "image09[1]")
