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CS people freak me out.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2851663/Are-brink-creating-artificial-life-Scientists-digitise-brain-WORM-place-inside-robot.html

They will destroy the world with this AI shit.

>Are we on the brink of creating artificial life? Scientists digitise the brain of a WORM and place it inside a robot

> * The OpenWorm global project is making a 'digital' worm
> * Their project is recreating the neurons and cells in C. elegans
> * It is the simplest organism we know of but has similarities to humans
> * By making a digital worm the team hope to create artificial life
> * They have implanted the digital 'mind' of the worm into a Lego machine
> * In a video it acts and behaves just like the worm would in the real world
> * Next year the team will allow people to download their own digital worm
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This shit will lead to nothing but trouble.

I don't see what the fascination with AI is all about anyway. We just need faster computers. We don't need computers capable of mimicking or replacing us. We don't need to create life, we have too much already.

They need to figure out better ways for humans to fundamentally interact with computers.
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>>6907492
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>>6907492
>>6907483
We're going to make a new species, that's what humans are for, to make AI....and plastic.

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How many of you were in the gifted program when you were in elementary-high school?

We had something called GATE here, which I was not a part of. All I can remember is that they got to do arts and crafts after school and they gave a little show at the end of the year.

I was wondering about this because I had a few friends who were at the top of their class when they were younger, and they did pretty well maybe up until the end of high school and even calc 2 was too much for them so they do business or something now.

I was talking to a professor about this and he said that a lot of the brighter students he went to university with ended up with what he calls "normal guy jobs".
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>>6906401
Ours was called STRETCH (Supplementary Teaching Resources for Educationally Talented CHildren, quite the mouthful).

I wouldn't say it was a perfect predictor of success in the future, but nobody I know who was in the program is doing stupid stuff right now. They are all at least employed, in education, or doing something else positive.
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Yeah, I was in GATE. You had to be 130 iq to get in

Also, another school with an IB program. You had to be 130 iq to get in there as well.

For the record, I worked a blue collar profession (welder) after high-school and am now just going back to school at the ripe old age of 26, so your professor isn't wrong.
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>>6906401
For some reason, I always felt inferior to the kids in gifted program.

Any programmers out there with advice on where to find open source projects to work on and/or how to start out as a freelance programmer?

I recently quit my hellish job programming for a major corporation (fixing bugs that have been around for 10+ years, doing all the work that nobody else would touch, etc.), and want to work on projects I'm at least somewhat interested in.

I love programming to the point where it becomes addicting but don't know where to start to build a portfolio and all that. I want to learn more languages but don't think the online tutorials will really help me learn anything important. I'm not a hardcore programmer (yet) but would like to learn more through working on actual projects with others who wouldn't mind me not being an expert
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Write software that you're interested in. If you like operating systems then write your own operating system, etc.
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>>6909718
It seems like everything has been done. I come up with ideas once in awhile but a quick google search shows it's already been done.

I'd rather work on open source software with people who are more experienced to expand my knowledge but don't know what the protocol is for that when you don't know anyone.

Any advise for finding projects on github etc.?
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>>6909718
is it actually possible for one man to write an entire operating system, not unix based one.

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If a black hole's gravitational pull is infinite why aren't we being pulled into one right now?
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we are, it's just very far away
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Because there's one on the opposite side balancing the resultant.

I expect at least 2 unique keks.
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>>6911731
>>6911721
Thank you.

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>Orion’s crewed asteroid mission unlikely to occur prior to 2024

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/11/orions-em-2-unlikely-occur-prior-2024/


I didn't see a thread on this story, which is pretty huge.

We are now looking at a gap of 7 years between the time Orion flies with the SLS in 2018, and the next time it flies gain in the mid 2020s.

And that is IF the Asteroid Redirect Mission survives the next congress+administration.

NASAs manned deep space program has officially been put into a coma.

Americans will basically remain in Low Earth Orbit for at least another decade, if not longer.
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>>6913063
The fuck, wasn't the deadline supposed to be no later than 2021?
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>>6913071

I believe so.

I must admit I'm disappointed as fuck.

Realistically, the mid 2020s in a lifetime away politically and the chances of such a mission getting cancelled are high if you look at recent NASA history.

I also don't think ESAs ability to provide constant support for the Service Module can even be maintained for that long. They have other shit to do.
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>>6913111
Next dragon capsule is to launch in a few days with that robotic landing booster....

I am excited

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I remember a while back, someone on /sci/ claimed that taking psilocibyn-rich mushrooms helped him understand his subjects better.

Have you ever taken shrooms, /sci/? Did it help you?
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>>6910115
Yes, they do not help you understand any mathematical concept. I sat down and tried to think about Mathematics and Geometry on LSD. It was a total failure. There was no analytic thought, only emotion.
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>>6910118
Sorry, I thought you asked about LSD too. Mushrooms are more earthly, I did not try to do any math on shrooms.
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Actually, yeah. I was reading munkres topology while visiting a friend for shrooms (I couldn't bring my computer; thought I'd bring math texts for the downtime) and tried to read it through the comeup. It got progressively more and more boring until it was absurdly so, and I became furious at the text for being so unenjoyable. Then I noticed that I had been on the same page for about ten minutes, reading the same definition over and over in my head and willing it to make sense. I eventually gave it up and just laid on his bed until the come up was done. While walking around on those shrooms I had the worst anxiety attack of my life and asked my friend in all honesty to kill me. You might find yourself in a wonderful space if you really like what you are trying to learn and don't take enough to impair cognition, but I can't recommend. Noopept and sunifiram will be more than your best friends, however. Methylphenidate or amphetamine used sparingly are also helpful.

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Is this a good idea?
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>>6915047
Actually...yes
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>>6915047
no, that's completely fucking retarded, a person in a first world country uses hundreds of trees in his lifetime, planting one more tree means absolutely nothing, the only people who have such luxuries as actual stone tombstones are relatively wealthy people in first world countries and a minority of the world population anyway and the places with actual high populations like africa and india are too fucking poor to plant and grow trees for everyone that dies

the ecological impact would be completely negligible, it would accomplish absolutely nothing except make stupid hippie faggots with very poor logical abilities feel good imagining the persons spirit reincarnated as a tree or some shit.

and the entire purpose of a tombstone isnt to last a couple years so your family can have a funeral and visit maybe once or twice, its to have a permanent marker that will remain there for centuries after your death, which a tree will not
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>>6915066
This guy knows it.

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Dear /sci/

When was the existence of the lipid membrane proven? I know it was initially postulated, based on a belief that polar substances could not enter cells, but this observation was later found to be false.

When was the lipid membrane actually validated? I would expect such a fundamental part of biology to have solid evidence supporting it, but I can't seem to find any.
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Then you havent fucking tried very hard. Phospholipid membranes are extremely well studied, and there are even commercial sites that will ship refine products (functionalized proteins and lipids, cholesterols, etc) to your lab for experiments.

There are literally thousands of published articles that deal with this subject.
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>>6912364
OP has posted this many times in the past, it's a mistake to take him seriously.
https://warosu.org/sci/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=lipid+membrane&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=op&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post
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>>6912367
Ahh ok thanks. Whats with the shitposting today, we getting raided by /retarded/ ?

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You have one minute to prove that feldspar isn't the best element.
Protip:[spoiler]You can't.[/spoiler]
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>>6908905
Poor Anon can't into spoilers.
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>>6908919
I think he meant mineral. But it is the best.
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>>6908905
>feldpsar
>best element.
>Protip:[spoiler]You can't.[/spoiler]
>>6908919
He did and you're stupid. It's not even a mineral but a mineral group, and it's only known for being totally fucking useless. So I wounder how it's the best element, plz explain.

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1979Icar...38..148Y

>The possibility that biological material may serve as a medium of extraterrestrial communication is discussed and DNA from bacteriophage phi X174 is investigated to determine whether such a message could be derived from it. It is speculated that advanced civilizations could manipulate viral or bacterial DNA so that its base sequence would carry a coded message in addition to specifying compounds necessary for survival and send a microorganism containing the message to a planet with conditions similar to those of the sending planet, where the microorganism would replicate. Two dimensional pictures were drawn of an overlapping gene section of phi X174 DNA using bases represented by four colors, and by digital systems according to chemical nature (purine or pyrimidine) or base pair.
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>>6914576
So wait, like, Ebola is an alien?
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Alien here
We have no reason to send coded messages since you can't decode them. You haven't even managed to decode some of your languages. We prefer direct contact if need be.
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>>6914576
So what was the message?

Dear /sci/... this is the most fucking amazing short mov I've seen in a while:

http://vimeo.com/108650530

>Wanderers is a vision of humanity's expansion into the Solar System, based on scientific ideas and concepts of what our future in space might look like, if it ever happens. The locations depicted in the film are digital recreations of actual places in the Solar System, built from real photos and map data where available.
>Without any apparent story, other than what you may fill in by yourself, the idea with the film is primarily to show a glimpse of the fantastic and beautiful nature that surrounds us on our neighboring worlds - and above all, how it might appear to us if we were there.

>WORDS AND VOICE - Carl Sagan

You will jizz your pants.
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OP here... I'm trying to identify planets/moons used in this vid.

First scene is Earth, second is Jupiter... is third Europa? Pic related.

Fourth is Saturn.
Sixth is Mars ? (space elevator one)

Most of the rest is also Mars?
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>tfw you will never do acid with the psychedelic swirls of jupiter filling the sky
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I wonder where that giant cliff is located. Also, when they fly with wings and you can see Neptune in the background was cool.

Also, this video shows why Sagan is so much better than that Tyrone character. Sagan could inspire you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

>The Fermi paradox (or Fermi's paradox) is the apparent contradiction between high estimates of the probability of the existence of extraterrestrial civilization and humanity's lack of contact with, or evidence for, such civilizations.[1] The basic points of the argument, made by physicists Enrico Fermi and Michael H. Hart, are:

>The Sun is a typical star, and relatively young. There are billions of stars in the galaxy that are billions of years older.
Almost surely, some of these stars will have Earth-like planets.[2] Assuming the Earth is typical, some of these planets may develop intelligent life.
Some of these civilizations may develop interstellar travel, a technology Earth is investigating even now (such as the 100 Year Starship).
Even at the slow pace of currently envisioned interstellar travel, the galaxy can be completely colonized in a few tens of millions of years.
According to this line of thinking, the Earth should already have been colonized, or at least visited. But no convincing evidence of this exists. Furthermore, no confirmed signs of intelligence (see Empirical resolution attempts) elsewhere have yet been spotted in our galaxy or (to the extent it would be detectable) elsewhere in the observable universe. Hence Fermi's question, "Where is everybody?"[3]
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Even just our galaxy is really fucking massive.
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Aliums don't want to be found
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>>6898460

I think we vastly overestimate the probability of the evolution if human level *intelligent* life. We only have Earth's life for data, but we also have about 4 billion years of that data. I think intelligent life is extremely rare for the following reasons:

- Unintelligent life is usually more successful than intelligent life. In terms of biomass, plants, single celled organisms, and arthropods are a huge portion of Earth's life. They are extremely stupid creatures, but they dominate the biosphere.

- Intelligent life has a short, mostly unsuccessful history on Earth. Cetaceans, primates, and cephalopods are not that successful in terms of the number of species that have survived for very long. Cephalopods are the most successful intelligent life form in Earth's history in terms of the longevity of the genus, but they have not produce any language or technology beyond extremely simple tools. Cetaceans do not have hand like limbs, so they could never make sophisticated tools and they evolved from unsophisticated quadrapedal mammals that would never develop technology on land. Of these three groups, two of them are extremely recent in Earth's history. Homo sapiens is the only species of these three groups to have developed true language and sophisticated technology, so even if life is intelligent it seems unlikely that it develops language and tools.

- Many of the planets that support life will be completely covered in water, making it almost impossible for intelligent life to develop sophisticated technology.

To summarize, being small, unintelligent, and simple is the most successful evolutionary strategy in the history of life on Earth, and it is completely incompatible with being intelligent. Intelligence is only favoured by natural selection under very strange circumstances, and even then intelligence often does not progress to the point at which language and sophisticated tools develop.

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Ok /sci/, look at this picture. That solution is definitely not the best and will only last until you forget the patch one night and she finds out

ITT: We discuss how to do get a girl addicted to you
I know you want it, Anon
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>>6888848
master clitoridal stimulation.

Got two girls addicted to this. One is my ex but still comes for more from time to time, one is... friend with benefits I guess.
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>implying a nicotine patch would have any effect
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10823399

guys, we need a different drug
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As a smoker, I really don't think that plan would work. Then again, I've never used a patch.

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Does anyone have a physic version ?
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>>6851402

>triple integrals not at the very bottom

Son, I am dissapoint.
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>>6851402
>chaos theory and lie algebras nearly at the genius gap

ppfffffttbbbfbfbtbttttt hahahahahahahaha
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>>6851402
Why have millenium prize problems written and then just list them out?

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Has anyone ever been able to create their own rocket which was able to launch something into orbit or beyond? I'm talking like trying to launch something to the moon.

If not, how feasible is this with no access to highly controlled materials (i.e. rocket fuel, guidance system, etc.)?

What would happen if you were caught (international laws against this)?

I figured that I would ask /sci/
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>>6850861
When I was younger, we fooled around with model rockets and what not, never got more than that though. What are you launching? Just the rocket itself or did you want anykind of payload? Getting into orbit would be much easier than getting to the moon since you would have to figure out aim/traj. and probably need a way to make adjustments one you launch.

Probably feasible to do with off the shelf stuff though, as long as you get someone to fabricate your stuff (engineer).

No idea for legal issues, but will monitor out of interest.
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>>6850861

yeah, weather balloon.
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>>6850869
you can't take a weather balloon to the moon.

>>6850866
what makes it so much harder to get to the moon as opposed to into orbit? escape velocity?

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