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Yo /sci/.

I am a freshman in highschool.Yes,yes,I know you're all gona scream b& but before that. I want to learn math and pursue a career in computer science,something like game programming.Anyways,that isn't the problem.

The real question is:
How can I learn all the math that is needed for university without my teacher and what else should I learn for computer science? In my country we just finished trigonometry(geometry) and we are currently doing systems of equations(algebra).
I plan to dedicate the time I have in summer break to learn maths and maybe finish the important things.

What about physics or chemestry? Are they important?If yes,what should I focus on?

Feel free to drop some links or book names,it's much appreciated!
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>>7177161
Have two Physics courses, Calculus, and at least one programming course under you belt by the time you graduate. Just do well in your classes and take as many advanced level courses as you can while maintaining a high GPA. That is the most important factor in you pursuing your future. Oh, and develop good study habits now so you are prepared for college. Finally, don't slack off EVER. You will hate yourself for it in the future.

Now fuck off and come back in four years.
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>>7177161

Learn the majority of 'pre calculus' which is basically review of algebra, trigonometry, and introduction to a couple new things. Make sure you understand everything in algebra. Functions, graphing, slope, all that stuff. It should be intuitive and simple.

Then start reading a calculus book, I'd choose a less rigorous one (look for books with the title including "calculus for engineers"). It'll be weird and hard, but that's because you don't know how to read carefully yet. You'll learn as long as you keep trying. The most important thing for calculus is understanding the geometric interpretation of the derivative and how it can be explained using algebra. Chances are the most you'll get through is derivative, integrals, and series.

For computer science, 95% of learning it is practicing it. For math, I can read it and usually get by, only need to practice for more complex stuff. But for computer science, you have to practice writing your own programs. Get a good book on Java. Fuck the people who say not Java. It's a great starting language.

Chemistry isn't important, ignore it for now. For physics, read a basic conceptual book on only mechanics. Avoid electricity/magnetism. When you understand calculus a little bit, pick up a calculus based physics book and learn mechanics and E/M.

For the books, use the sticky, it's an agreed upon list of books for specific topics. But I highly suggest mastering basic math, and getting a start on calculus. Comp sci, chem, physics, everything will come much easier if you are more mathematically mature because the nature of math is nearly equivalent to the process of learning in general.
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>board full of sciencey stuff
>diagrams of geometric figures
>math ranging from arithmetic to integrals
>chemical formulas
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>tic tac toe board
wew lad

Are people really this stupid?
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>>7154641
well do you have a good way to describe left and right?
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your east and west
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>>7154642
Left: Sinistral side of the body; West when facing north
Right: Dextral side of the body; East when facing north

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I have a really Personal question for you today, /sci/
Its about my cousin, She is 2,5 years old right now, very confident and curious, not a bit shy like her two older siblings were. And i just have the feeling She will be very intelligent when She grows up. A little bit self centered but She still likes being watched, laughs when She is tickled etc. Sometimes, sometimes She even tells you to go away when you sit by her. She cant really Speak well, just a few words and sentences and names on pics and such. But today something Made Me Puzzle. The Kids played with legos and while her brother (5) kept building dragons and houses and ships and her Sister (11) played board games with me She just sat there and stacked this things together, not once, not twice, more than five times. All perfect, all in Red. I think (im Not Sure She did it) She also Made the bottom of a ship in random colours but that was it. And then She yelled "nooo" when that little godzilla (her brother, 1) accidentally fell over the ship her older brother Made. So im just not Sure Whats up with that so i ask you: aspergers? Its Not much and She is Not even 3, but that Damn plates man..

>sorry for all the uppercase, my phone Keyboard is shit
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more than five times?? that's not good, bro. get her checked.
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>>7147629
I Dont really know anymore, i guess it was more. Only realised all of this after i disassembled all of this after they were away. But Yes, Thats Not Good
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>>7147629
>>7147632
Ok, found out it was only three times. Thats way better, but also it were all the Red plates that were in the little Box She had.. I need a little discussion about this, Say something guys

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Ask a (former) child prodigy anyhing.
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>>7131835
Jacob?
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What should I eat for dinner? I'm thinking about oats, just because I'm too lazy.
For lunch I had spaghetti, even if I'm actually on a cut. I was running today, though, so it's kind of okay. It was with a friend. At 11am we met at the local Starbucks.
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how much did you let down your parents?

how is the depression treating you?

when did you figure out you weren't special?

>autists will defend this nonsense
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>>7093073
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_%2B_2_%2B_3_%2B_4_%2B_%E2%8B%AF#Zeta_function_regularization

kthxbai
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>>7093073
Here's how your thought process should go unless you're an engineer.
> Hey, an equation.
> Wait, the left side is divergent.
> I wonder what the equality means.
> Ahh, it's analytic continuation.
> Cool, what can you do with it?
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>>7093073
Apparently I'm not autistic enough then. Fuck this pseudo-math.

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Why are modern scientists such shit philosophers? I just read Physics and Philosophy by Werner Heisenberg and that guy was a genius in both science and its philosophical implications. Not to mention he knew his history of western philosophy to a fucking tee.

Who are some great scientist/philosophers out there these days?
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Why are philosophers such shitty scientists?
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>>7082246
Because you can never know anything.
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Sean Carroll.

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So you become "good will hunting "mode
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>>7076619
Any book you want. They point is he read lots of books, not just special books that made him smart.

If you're too dumb to figure that out you'll never make it.
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Gödel, Escher, Bach
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the bible

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ITT: we brainstorm and try to come up with a list of scientific and technological goals that could and should be done within the 21st century.

I'll start pitching ideas

>Fully commercialise fusion power to the point where it supplies greater than 99.9% of global energy demand
>Establish a practical, efficient, cheap and safe method of space travel
>Establish a permanent and fully self-sustained off-world colony

Ok let's go
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Just to reiterate: These goals has to be realistic to reach within roughly a hundred years!

So most likely no Wormholes or Dyson Spheres etc.
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OP here, just throwing out some more ideas

>Offer genetic optimisation to all newly formed embryos / foetuses / whatever and have it be as normalised as vaccination in babies
>Develop quantum computers
>something something nanotechnology?
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>>7056175
>>Fully commercialise fusion power to the point where it supplies greater than 99.9% of global energy demand


our batteries still suck ass, and there is literally not enough of the metals in the earth to build all the batteries we would need.

our power problems are not going to be fixed until space mining becomes a thing.

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Reminder: if you can't do all of these, you don't belong here
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I can do 13 of them but i don't know what you mean Newton's method?
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>>7020939
I study Astronomy and Physics and I don't know half of these

I learned how to use programs to solve the difficult maths for me

why the fuck would you think any of this is important outside of a Mathematics major?
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>>7020939
Reminder that if you can't do this, you don't belong in academia.

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In which cases and why can't we find any primitive?
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if our IQ is too low
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All rational functions have an elementary anti derivative.
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>>7017342
find the values where x3+x2+1=0, go complex, shift the zeroes by i \epsilon , find a contour which vanishes and use the residue theorem to inegrate.

Are you ready for “Inter-universal Mellin transform”?

http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/Inter-universal%20Teichmuller%20Theory%20IV.pdf

Remark 2.2.1

Mochizuki hopes to solve the Riemann Hypothesis
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do you know what he means with those comparisons to

int exp(-x^2) dx = pi^{1/2}

??
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>>6931583
what do you even hope to accomplish by asking this here? it's all there. if you don't understand it then you won't. It's advanced math.
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>>6931583
That's the Gaussian integral. You should know that.

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Suggest books that should be obligatory reading for everyone before they turn 25.
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>>6960969
kek
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>>6960974
Well, they say reading the Bible is a great way to make people doubt the ancient superstition that is Christianity.

I can tip the fedora on my own.
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My friend said that buying more lotto tickets doesn't improve your odds of winning.


you buy one ticket and it's 1:1million chance to win ok... if you buy 5 tickets, it is no longer 1:1million, cuz u added 5 tickets to the total equation...so you gain no advantages in odds by buying more than one tickett

Is he trolling me
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His logic is probably something along the lines of five times a negligible probability still being negligible.
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>>6945917
He's probably just an idiot.
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Have you considered looking for non-retarded friends?

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Maths, physics, chemistry, technology...
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this thread can be interesting
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>>6943506
why does the wave get longer?
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>>6943506
I came buckets.

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How would you design the World's standard mathematics education system if you could?

Starting from kindergarden up till graduation from college.

>Ensure that you are specific and use proper names of topics so people can have a counter argument.
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>>6923497
I don't know how it is taught. I went to high school from '90-'94. I know that I got As and Bs until I hit precalc in eleventh grade, where I practically failed. So something went wrong since the first quarter of pre-calc was a glorified review. How did I do so well up to that point if I didn't know the material? Well the story has a happy ending but that definitely points to a problem somewhere earlier in the line. I enjoyed math, and apparently was good at it, except that when the time came I was shit. This should not be possible.

I will hazard a guess at the problems I experienced.

1) too many word problems and not enough emphasis on manipulation of terms. "When are we gonna hafta use this for???" Followed up shortly by, "I hate word problems!" Kids are petulant little fucks. To this day people can balance their checkbook but can't handle fractions. That's a big red flag to me.

2) Too much emphasis on tricks and formulas. People in my age group tend to say "cross multiply" like it's a religious invocation and don't even understand why it works or when to use it. People who are shit at math can still recognize the quadratic formula but they can't solve a linear equation for the unknown. This is a bad sign.

3) Not enough actual calculation is done. To this day I am better at symbolic calculation than numerical calculation. To some extent this makes sense but the relationship, for instance, between polynomials and normal positional notation was something I literally discovered on my own even though it's fairly trivial. "Synthetic division" is retarded, it's just the usual division algorithm, only you don't have borrows and carries. Similarly, "FOIL" is stupid, multiply the coefficients like schoolboy multiplication algorithm, just don't have carries.

Anyway. Develop their intuition (practice, not application), shy away from shortcuts, show how algebra is an abstraction of calculation rather than "something you do with eks."
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>>6923497
>1st Grade
Basic addition/subtraction/modulo/compliments
>2nd Grade
Basic times tables/fractions
>3rd Grade
Division, Powers, Roots, Primes
>4th grade
Algebra
>5th Grade
Geometry, Logic, Sets, Combinatorics, Proofs
>6th Grade
Higher order Algebra. Trig, Exponential, Logs, Series, Sums, Limits
>7th Grade
Calculus, Matrix Algebra
Chemistry
>8th Grade
Vector Calculus, ODEs
Mechanics, Thermodynamics
C++ Programming
>9th Grade
Linear Algebra, Probability, Statistics
Electromagnetism, Circuits
Digital Logic, Comp Arch
>10th Grade
Real Analysis, Abstract Algebra
Stat Mechanic, Optics, Advance Mechanics and Special Relativity
Data Structures and Algorithms
American Government and Political Science
>11th Grade
PDEs, Complex Analysis, Fourier Analysis
Quantum Mechanics
Numerical Analysis, OS, Parallel Programing
Macro & Micro Economics
>12th Grade
Money and Banking, Finance
Philosophy, Theology, Religious Studies
Electives (Organic Chem, Biology, GR, Astrophysics, Robotics, Comp Vision, etc...)
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>>6923930
>C++
stopped reading right there

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