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Sc/out/s,
Next spring I'm going to help teach a class on wilderness survival. It's at a middle school and will take place over nine weeks with three 1 1/2 hour classes per week culminating in a camp out where they'll have to find a good campsite, start primitive fires, build shelters, set traps, and find water. I should be able to get these kids up to about a First-Class scout level pretty quickly but I'm coming to you with a request.
If you read the subject you'll see what I need your help with. I've only spent two weeks total in...
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2 weeks survival experience...? Uhh, being honest op you are find fucked. I myself have been a trapper for 8 years and a hunter for 8 years since I was young very young. What kind of primitive skills? Location? type of forest? type of skills/things you will be teaching? Books I'd recommend The Sas survival book.
Just make a list of questions/what you are doing with them.
>>769319
I've been camping regularly for over fifteen years but I've only spent two weeks out with only a knife and rope. So I'm not fucked.
I'll be teaching them the things you mentioned plus identifying edibles, navigation, signaling, fire making/building, making char cloth, building traps, hunting, identifying flint and the basics of knapping, knots/lashings, finding/purifying water, knife/axe technique, shelter building, first-aid. Stuff like that.
Hey /out/, I'm looking to get a new pack, preferably 65-85L. Whilst browsing the internet I found several "Teton Sports" backpacks that run relatively cheap and scored well on Amazon.
I'm skeptical because I've never heard of the brand and it seems too cheap. Does anyone have any experience with the brand? Pic related is a 65L bag that runs for $60 CAD.
don't get the biggest one, i have the mid sized one, the "3400" I used it for almost a year of hitchhiking and its held up great! I highly recommend it, it's actually a really high quality pack.
>>768774
Good to hear. I'm looking at the second and third largest ones, which are 75+10L and 65L.
>>768769
I've got the 3400, not terrible but I'm not going to stay in it for long. Doesn't really fit my torso and others have also reported it being small for them.
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/tourist-bros-sorry-after-trampling-yellowstones-off-limits-grand-prismatic-spring-for-youtube-stunt/
I wish they had fallen in and were scaled to death.
Volcanic amounts of rage. String those fuckers up at the entrance and have the ravens eat their eyes
although I wish they had fallen-through purely for the keks, big whoop.
What exactly is the damage in a year? Probably nothing, so keep you cool boys, a swift fine will do.
Dear /out/ I work in a school and since the boss knows I'm into /out/ and stuff she wants me to make some sort of desert island survival workshop or something of the sort. Any ideas of little projects for kids? It has to be completed in under 1 hour, be something that they can take home and it has to take into account that parents will loose their shit if I show them how to sacrifice to the gods a bunny and then proceed to skin it (honestly they'll probably loose their shit if I show them how to use a knife properly).
My ideas so far are:
Alcohol stove
Fishing...
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>>768411
While i appreciate you trying to do something /out/ related with the kids this sounds like a liability lawsuit waiting to happen to matter what you do.
Are you a teacher or otherwise educated in handling kids?
Consider risks involved in each project, injury, allergies or like you said how the parents will react to it.
Also what age group are the kids in?
For one thing i would never consider the alcohol stove with kids, too much potential for injury.
>>768423
I understand what you say. I'm only gonna do the alcohol stove as a preview of the workshop, they aren't going to be handling the cans themselves. I do have training and experience in both /out/ and /in/ teaching. I did take into consideration the allergies and injuries and all that... that is precisely why is it so hard to think of stuff, because there aren't many things you can do without a knife.
Parents are more relaxed, cos it's Europe, but as you said I still want to make sure it's...
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>>768438
I think you are on the right track with fishing nets or basketry, very little that can go wrong in a bad way.
Tomahawks is probably a bad idea even with a soft headpiece, handle is probably still going to be wood and the fact that the head is soft might actually make them hit each other with them.
Here, a few days ago, a hiker has been killed by a lightning
How do you defend from lightnings?
Have you ever been struck by one?
I feel too scared to leave my home now
>>768047
During thunderstorms I climb to the top of hills, don wet copper armour, shake my fist at the sky and yell "All Gods are bastards!!"
Never been hit yet.
>>768086
Actually if you covered yourself in a copper mesh you'd be safe from lightning.
>>768047
How about, don't go hiking in thunder storms
/out/, I need help. tl;dr I want books about ecology and similar topics.
My 15 year old brother is currently very invested in the outdoors and is convinced he wants to be some form of park ranger or ecologist. That's cool, but he's even fast tracking his high school to get out at 16 and begin college. He's outstandingly smart and dedicated, so I can't stop that decision, but I want to at least make sure he really cares about and understands the implications of beginning a life as an ecologist/preservationist/whatever he becomes.
We go hiking,...
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>>768054
This board so slow that 2 hours isn't enough time to bump. Also there's already and /out/ book thread.
>>768057
I don't see a book thread, help me out?
>>768057
Yeah where is the book thread?
Sup /out/, first time here figured this would be the best place to ask about this. Im going camping soon on my friends farm and would love to find a fossil. I say this because he was out walking by the river and found a shell embeded in a rock simalar to this pic. Im not expexting to find a dinosaur anytime soon but if anyone has experience finding them or where to look then advice would be appreciated. Post stories/pics of what youve found too
>>767910
where do you live?
Austraila, mid north coast. Tge farm is about an hour away from the coast on a straight line, hour and a half while driving, in the middle of bum fuck nowhere. There is abo cave paintings about 20 minutes motorbike ride from where we camp too which is kinda neat
I live in Dorset, UK and regularly go to Golden Cap (Pic) on the Jurassic coastline.
Its a little walk to get there but if you know where to look, you can go home with bags full of fossils and bones.
What does /out/ think of Zippos? Recently got myself one, as well as a 12oz zippo fluid can for 6$ and a lot of 6 wicks and 40 flints for 7$. The flame doesn't seem as concentrated as a bic, but its reliable and burns really hot and is truly windproof. The zippo itself cost me 11$ on amazon.
>>767714
They're fun to use but the fact that the fluid evaporates over time kills it for me. I just bring bics with me innawoods, works better.
>>767719
I never heard that the fluid evaporates. How would it evaporate more than say lighter fluid in a bic?
>>767714
I carry a Zippo, a firerod and two fresnel lenses as EDC. The one tool I CAN NOT count on in the wilderness is the Zippo. Being windproof and lighting reliably is indeed a huge plus but you'll find you have to refuel it every few days ( not a lot fuel, mind you ) and if you manage to get lost for more than that you'll find yourself wishing you had a bic or other forms of fire. By flooding/soaking my Zippo's innards I did manage to get it to go two weeks without refueling but you'll still be better...
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I feel like this is a pretty /out/ state if you don't have the misfortune of living in little Mohadishu.
Beltrami county here.
>>767596
Don't live there but about to go visit Voyageur's.
Flatter than a piece of paper up there but you people have good fishing and a lots of space with only trees. Hope I don't get drunk, catch up all your fish and burn down your woods.
>>767605
Yeah up in my county it's essentially
>small ass towns
>one sorta okay size town
>woods
>woods
>woods
>lakes
>woods
It's pretty nice. I went hunting last year out in Turtle River and it was fairly pretty. To be honest I only "saw" two grouse but had no chance of hitting either.
Polk county here. Actually doing an over night with a friend in itasca this Thursday night. Any cool shit up in Beltrami county?
Anyone ever see planets through a telescope before? I've seen Saturn and Jupiter when camping before and It's mindblowing to see it in "in person" rather than through pictures.
Pretty crazy to see in irl and confirm to yourself that such planets actually exist and aren't really just part of picture books you read as a child.
Yeah, during my childhood summers my uncle would visit and bring his telescope. Our property was very rural so we had no light pollution at all. Seeing the planets through the scope was very humbling. I can only image the wonder some of the first telescope craftsman felt.
>>767481
No, I just bought a telescope though and hope to see some cool stuff with it. It's not the best but it's what I could afford. Tried it in my backyard and didn't see much, maybe there was too much light out. Street lights, and there is a church behind my place with what seems like some kind of world record parking lot light collection. I will take it with me when I go camping next time though.
what's a good telescope to take /out/ which will provide sights like this?
went hiking this past weekend to one of the many trails in Angeles NF. As i drove past Mt. Wilson i see smoke on the side of road and suddenly realize its a fucking forest fire. Didn't hesitate to look for a turn out i stopped in the middle of the highway and emptied out my 3 liters of my only drinking water. As i ran to put the fire out there was another guy trying to put it out by throwing dirt on it, fire was just getting bigger. the fire was spreading fast, if i would have drove back to park properly the forest would be burned by now. i feel like a fucking hero and...
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forgot to mention, I was only left with the water in my bottle only. I decided to go for the hike but limit my water consumption, to my surprise once i got to my destination there was water flowing from one of the caves. I saved the forest and the forest returned the favor.
>>767336
>what to do if caught by a forest fire near trails?
Get the fuck away from it, as fast as possible.
There are professionals who handle these types of things, better let them do it.
Unless we are talking a very small fire not much more than 2-3 meters in diameter, then i might try to put it out, but only if i have a safe escape route like a road or something nearby that i can use if it starts spreading too quickly.
I have once tried to put out a fire in a dry forest and it...
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>2010
>hiking out of King’s Canyon after 1 wk trip
>camp one day’s walk from trailhead
>noisy millennials camping nearby
>kids cutting wood, “bushcrafting”, have multiple fires
>wandering around with flaming sticks and embers
>next morning they hike further up the trail, we hike out
>see smoke coming from log near their...
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Hey /out/,
Me and my friends are going on a working holiday to Scotland next month and I'm gonna be hiking, camping, and maybe doing a little caving for the first time in my life. I'm really trying to budget here and don't want to fork out for anything I don't need.
Since experience isn't on my side I was hoping you guys could tell me from experience what the absolute essentials are for hiking and caving and camping are and what I could do without to save money.
>>767316
What do you have by now? Shoes, clothing, a tent, a stove, a harness, what?
>>767316
Seconding this request.
>>767320
Boots, coat, knife, paracord, hiking pack, hot flask, cold flask, 2 pairs of hiking socks, knife sharpener, small torch, lightweight military pack.
Hi fellow /out/ers. I want to do something fun for my birthday this year so I thought I'd take a minimalistic survival training class. The program I'm currently looking at is 3 days 2 nights and costs $375. I've done plenty of primitive camping before, but never without a tent or food reserves. I'm wondering if you guys have ever participated in a wilderness class, and if so what was your experience like? Also, anyone know of programs like this, but for hunting. I'm in the South Florida area.
http://byronkernssurvival.com/Courses.html
>>767305
What is primitive camping?
>>767305
Wow I now know what type of business I want to have
>>767334
>forcing yourself to go /out/ with normies over and over
sounds shitty desu
Looking at getting a hammock for my girlfriend who has been obsessing with hammocks for weeks now.
Will be used primarily for recreational use, just hanging out with a book, maybe taking a nap, but if we really like it, we'll take it out camping this summer, so I don't want a rainbow hammock like pic related.
I'm considering the ENO DoubleNest, which I've heard lots of people sing high praises for, but others hate.
Also Grand Trunk Double (one website rated it the best double), and Kammok Roo (which is more expensive, but supposedly higher quality).
I'd...
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>>767285
Grand trunks are terrible, they rip after light use and aren't nearly as comfy as an eno
>>767301
Do you know this from experience?
That's interesting, because this website ranks it among the best: http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Hammock-Reviews
Thank you for your input.
I got one of these 25 dollar eno bag knock offs from walmart. In the camping section. Used it about 15 times so far mostly camping. Has slept me plus a girl, and often me plus my dog. I weigh 150. Dog weighs 60. Girl probably weighed 130. No rips yet, and for the price, could get a new one.
Any experience with esbit fuel?
Seems like a good alternate to propane and other liquid fuels, maybe saving some space in my pack. But each one only lasts 12 mins which may cause some obstacles
Just looking for a cheap, small alternate to fires for cooking meals, ive gotten screwed by the rain for the last time
>>767274
Alcohol stoves, have you tried them?
they suck, they are hard as fuck to light even with a lighter, they dry up if the super thin foil i punctured, they smell fucking nasty as hell. dont burn very good either actually, ..
>>767276
No ive only cooked with fires while /out/ before
Seems at first glance that solid fuel is cheaper and more compact then alcohol, and more durable. Alcohol stoves always striked me as really easy to break
