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What is the best way to break a piece of wood in half for a campfire?
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karate chop.
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Pick up a smaller piece of wood

You'll rarely need to cut up wood when /out/. Pieces suitable for fires are easily found and/or broken into size with your foot.
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Smack a large log on a tree until it creates a large peojoctile to maybe hit someone in the face?

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What's the difference from a $10 stove against a 40$ pocket rocket?

From what I can tell your just not paying for the brand name.

Can a msr shill convince me to spend +30$
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>>779310
I bought a cheap 7$ one. The electric starter stopped working but a lighter still does the trick.
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>>779310
>>779331
Yeah, Ive been using my dirty cheap one for a few years, no complaints.
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I have an extremely cheap one. It could pass for a bunsen burner. It works fine/ but the pot stand isn't as sturdy as it could be. Otherwise, it's functional and seems to work fine

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Which park is most isolated and best to go wild camping in England?
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>>779247
>Which park is most isolated and best to go wild camping in England?

most isolated just has to be one of the scotish ones... proably cairngorms. not that i've ever been there. but fuck, all the rest have pretty large amounts of people nearby and are bound to have more humans wandering about them for that reason alone.

however, i've had some pretty dam good times wild camping in snowdonia and the lakes. you just gotta go find a place with no people there and camp,...
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>>779247
>you just gotta go find a place with no people there and camp

pls. I "wild camp" within 30ft of trails and sometimes behind pubs in popular areas and have never been rumbled. Stop being a faggot and learn how to use a bivvy + camo basha/tarp.

That said, I like the Lake District. If you get tired of the woods or hungry there is always some faggot toffs 6th vacation home to invite yourself into.
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>>779247
Dartmoor, because its legal in most areas

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>No Sleeping bag or pad
>Blaze orange disposable tent (poles not included)
>Water packed in boxes not reusable bottles
>Only 7,200 calories
>Only 50 inches of duct tape
>Only 50 feet of paracord
>Shit tier multitool
>No toilet paper
>Almost 20 lbs
>300 dollars...
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>>776987
well anon there are in this world people we like to call suckers. They are dumb and they do dumb things, like buy a kit they didn't put together themselves, with materials they didn't cq and test themselves, for triple the cost and half the necessities.
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Holy god thats worse than those giant expensive med kits
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>>776995

Are there really preppers willing to part with 300 who are this stupid?

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>wanting to go /out/ but not being able to afford it. What are some of your guys' budget pieces? Also, anyone know of any good places to go innawoods around metro Detroit?

Pic semi related
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Totally didn't mean for this to all come out as greentext. Oops.
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>>782863
Put on clothes. Take a liter of water however you can. Take a tarp.

You don't need much.
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>>782863
Be careful anon, you're gonna want a real good knife and Glock for innawoods Detroit style.

Alternatively, fishing is a fairly cheap way to get outside
>tfw my last post was about how I need to stop spending $75/wk on a few lures and little crap.

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Whatsup /out/
My friends and I have planned a trip for the past 3 months to go to Banff, AB and spend 5 days camping there (3 of hiking 2 of arriving and spending time in neighboring towns)

The group (4 of us) has little hiking experience, unfortunately, but we're planning on taking easy day hike trails like Sunshine Meadows or Lake Louise.

Here's my problem: Everyone in the group is 20, but my parents still express concern for this trip. I know that there's lots of cell phone reception, so I could just activate international calling on my phone....
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Only advice I can really give to you is, do it and show them. Also get a cheap bear bell. My first solo hike/camping trip was when I was 12. 14 day hiking trip. 8 Days in and I snapped my leg pretty much making me unable to walk. I ended up crawling back and radioing/calling depends on the way you look at it for military helicopter to come out (closest thing to us) They came out in about 2 hours and located me. I didn't get any reception where I was. Just think about what can happen and do everything to prevent it. Where I was stupid for me to go too. Loads of cliffs and...
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>>782355
Were driving from michigan to banff in 3 days. Then 5 days in banff, and then a longer roadtrip where wer stop and camp at national parks (yellowstone badlands glacier) for the night before we get up and drove again. 13 days total.

I guess one question i have atm
What are some good resources to brush up on my camping / survival skills? Any books or websites I can look at?
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>>782368
I would suggest the SAS Survival Guide by far its the best, check out Far North Bushcraft and Survival's youtube channel. Practice some first aid for the love of god. I saw a guy at a camp site cut his hand with a axe and he ended up bleeding out because he didn't put anything on it. He lived but goddamn.
Skills:
-First Aid
-Fire
-Basic safety
-Foraging/trapping
thats about it to be honest I never have really been in a survival scenario even with a broken leg I didn't really call...
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I know this question is out of season but I've got this nice cold weather sleeping bag which is huge when rolled up and in its bag. How can I backpack with the thing? The only way I can think of is tying it onto the outside with rope but this doesn't seem like it would be secure enough
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>>782060

Strap is to your pack with a bungee or two. It'll be fine. I've done this dozens of times with bulky cold weather gear. Weighs you down a bit more in the back but it works.
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>>782060
Back in the day (early 90s), any remotely serious hiking pack had an assortment of attachment points so you could strap a sleeping bag to the bottom with 2 webbing straps. Or alternately under the lid of a top loader, but a winter bag might be too big for that.
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>>782065
yeah the bag is honestly almost as big as my pack. So theres no way its fitting in either of those places
>>782064
Thanks man

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Does /out/ hates mountain house? If so why? Thinking about buying it for a few days +250km hike instead of knorr pastas like I usually do.

Also food general
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mountin' house is good. it's expensive but you pay for the ease and dem cumfies. the food is good.
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I don't hate it, but I'm not that excited about it. I keep a few packs around JIC.
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>>782041
The only really big problem I have with them is the amount of sodium they have. Its a ton. I would suggest you find some you like the best and take a few, and pack other food for the rest of the time. I like the Chili Macaroni, Beef Stew, and Rice & chicken (which doesnt have a ton of chicken in it lol). I feel that most of them taste better with a little bit of hot sauce or pepper in them.

TL;DR Stick to one a day, with something else for other meals.

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Guys I'm planning to do a 15 day hike to raise money for anti suicide, now, I know we all want me to kill myself but that can wait until after for the delicious irony.

Now here's the thing, rather than a tent I'd rather use a waterproof bivvy bag (it rains a lot in Ireland) but I can't find any for a reasonable price, maybe I'm just a scrub at buying equipment but any help is appreciated. Thanks very much.
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>>781926
buy a tarp and some poles and some 550 cord
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>>781968
Bring a pillow too. 15 days on anything but a mattress is going to fuck you up unless you spent the last 6 months sleeping in a POW camp.
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>>781926
Amazon, you can get 1 mans for 40 pound

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Anyone surf or SUP?

I'm 6'4 210lbs trying to get an inflatable SUP for easy ocean and river riding but not sure where to look.

Tower makes a 10 footer inflatable but dunno what max weight is.
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>>781400

is he pooping on that girl
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>>781400
Google? paddleboarddirect.com
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>>781497
Doubt it, they're married.
That's Gabrielle Reece and Laird Hamilton.

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I found this kit for 65€

is there a flashlight that uses two 18650 under 100€?
I'd like to have a bit more power with me
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1000 lumens from one 18650 not enough for you?
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>>781308
Eeeeeh it's allright.
I'm actually looking with something with more flood, and small edc flashlight like this one don't quite cut it.

But for some fucking reason manufacturer think that if you want to use more than 1 battery you're an insecure compensating dickwaver and only make stupid shit with 2000 lumens in stupid barrel of fuck that's impossible to carry.

Sorry for the rant.
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More flood? What about a mule head?

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i found a pond i like to go wading in for bass fishing an wanted to know if there was a way i could bring something on that can hold my phone and any keeper fish
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Fucking gators

Just get that Lil Wayne phone. If it can survive champagne and sizzurp, it can survive a little pond water.

Why not just bring a backpack and get one of those little waterproof cases for your wallet and phone? Used to use those on my jet skis. And then just keep the fish on a stringer or one of those baskets that you keep submerged. Hell, even a 5gal bucket with holes drilled in it and a lid. Tie a rope to it and let that float around with the keepers.
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>>779725
>if there was a way i could bring something on that can hold my phone and any keeper fish
Yes there is.
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>>779732
i usually wear board shorts when wading so what could i attach the stringer to?

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So I'm hiking the A.T.

this is my set up

>100ft paracord
>wool blanket
>alpine design adventurer 2 tent
>water bottle(2 not pictured)
>buck 119 knife
>flashlight
>cold weather gloves, warm weather gloves
>beanie
>notepad and paper
>Alpinizmo...
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>>779614
Why the paracord?
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Also, I managed to fit a tarp inside of my tent bag. I have a fuckton of wool socks too, and a pair of long johns when it's cold as dick.
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>>779616
I like to use it for things, basically anything. You can use it for so much shit. Most of the time I cut small sections and melt the ends so they don't fray and I often am able to re-use those sections so I hardly waste any. Also, great for boot laces in the middle of the woods.

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Hey Outdoors, I'm going to require some of your expertise....

Myself and 15 other participants are plotting out the logistics of sociological experiment.

We have 16 acres with a well, construction materials, and a start up budget.

We are to survive on 1 acre per person, until we are self sustaining. We each get a computer and Internet.

The project will not be done until we are collectively earning more than we are spending.

What we're trying to work out logistically is the diet.

Non-perishable nutritious food, 3000 calorie...
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>>779383
potatoes
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Yeah OP just eat potatoes for 50 days straight, you totally won't die of scurvy and liver failure.

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Fun little experiment I did. I used my bugzooka and went to my sun deck and captured 15 big spiders and they are all in this small tube and I wanted to see what they would do or of they'd just die. It turns out I believe atleast that they are eating each other. I might have sucked in a bit of web too but I'm not sure. Is it normal for them to eat each other? Is it survival of the fittest?
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>>778705
I small it the spidercaust.
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>>778705
>>>/an/ might be a better place for this
>Is it normal for them to eat each other?
Is it normal for them to be jammed in a small space together?

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