Women who make the first move: how has that worked out for you across all the times you've done it?

And women who don't make the first move: thoughts about the other group?

>>16618080
What, on girls who make the first move? Why should I care what they do?

Friend groups are stupid anyways, just hang out with the couple who didn't care. Even if this didn't happen, those would be the only ones you'd hangout with after high school. I've been out of high school for four years now and I still hangout with my few best friends from middle/high school multiple times a week. Leave the group and your real friends will follow. If they choose some lame girl over you then they are not your friends. Spend some time alone or find new people if you have to, it's way better than having the people you spend time with look...
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>>16617180
this

lol i can't believe you stuck around for 3 months like a cuck. just move on, your friends are dogshit for just taking her word against yours without even asking you.

>>16617108
Sounds like you actually just had one friend in your fucking faggot circle of faggots. Anon, remember one true is friend is better than 15 so so friends. Anyways that chick is fucking crazy.

>go back and sit down
>I feel so scared that I might have herpes now or aids or something
>it's because she was also fingering herself on her barepussy and was touching me after the fact
>continue sitting
>I order a beer and drink it
>a minute later
>another girl approaches, an attractive black girl, whose tall and mixed looking
>she asks me what im doing and what im up to
>she's making small talk
>she says "you look so sad and down"
>I tell her "I'm fine"
>I was probably looking sad because I was afraid I caught something
>she says "do you want to do anything"
>I just say "I have no money , I didn't bring much"
>she runs her fingers through my hair and walks away
>anyway I drink my beer while glancing at the dancer on stage
>I actually find the dancer really attractive
>she looks like jennifer beals or tony montanas sister from scarface, really attractive and really fit and obviously around my age
>she finishes pole dancing
>I'm too scared to approach her because i'm too intimidated
>after she's done dancing she walks up to my table in the corner and starts talking to me
>I can't believe it
>I forgot what she said, but she talked to me for about a minute and I told her frankly that I only had 60 bucks left and I don't know what that meant to her
>and she said "it's my first day here too, ill give u a handjob and a blowjob"
>so I followed her
>she keeps telling me its her first time too while I'm in the booth with her
>I trust her because she seems absolutely shy jsut like me
>she starts giving me a handjob
>it's obvious its her first time ever giving a handjob because she's doing it too hard and really tugging on my foreskin
>I'm in a lot of pain
>I kindly tell her that I would like it slower and softer so I wouldnt hurt her feelings

>she keeps giving me a handjob
>I intially refused her blowjob
>I agree to the blowjoshe keeps giving me a handjob
>I intially refused her blowjob
>I agree to the blowjob
>she blows me for a minute
>I feel guilty because it's her first time and I tell her to stop and just continue with the handjob
>I actually feel like leaving because i feel uncomfortable and just let her have the money and leave
>I told her I'm done but she didnt understand, so she started grinding on my baredick instead
>my fear kicks in again for stds
>She gets into this position (pic related) and starts dry humping slowly
>she puts her cheek to my cheek and we're locking heads, wh ile she's huggin my head with her other arm
>she seems very passionate and I stare at our reflection in the black wall and think about how great we look together and how romantic this moment sort of is, even though I don't really feel anything for her but I find her really attractive and genuinely cute
>she asks me what my favorite sex position is and I respond
>missionary
>because of memes
>she asks me if I like it rough or normal
>I respond "normal" even though I always watch rough porn
>I zip up my pants and tell her that it was great and hug her and leave
>she tells me to try and stay out of trouble and that I'm a good guy
>I go back downstairs and sit down
>girl I had just danced with sits a table away from me and I see her sometimes looking at me
>another girl approaches this time it's a middle eastern girl
>she asks me if I want to have a good time
>I tell her I literally have no money
>she then just asks if she could just sit at my table instead
>I let her
>she makes small talk with me
>she asks me if I would fuck her
>and I didn't know how to respond like it was a trick question, but I said I would
>she continued making small talk but left after 10 minutes
>then the first girl tall blonde girl who approached me, approached my table again
>she asked me how I was
>she asked me if any other girl sucked my dick

>I said "I can't answer that" she said "that means some girl sucked your dick"
>I go quiet
>she asks me if I would like her company again
>I tell her I wasted all my money
>she says "oh that's a shame, did you have a good time"
>I tell her "yeah"
>she walks away

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I was only writing is the new it's just a prank bro.

Sigmund Freud, known as the father of psychoanalysis, recorded his observations of group dynamics in Group Psychology and the Analysis of the Ego. In his work, he refers to Wilfred Trotter as the group conditions its members, Freud states "opposition to the herd is as good as separation from it, and is therefore anxiously avoided.[2]" Such fear causes the individual members and even leaders of a particular group to go along with the decisions a group based in accordance to its culture. On a micro scale, the individual is conditioned to partake in the social norms of...
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I hope we talk again. I'll text you on New Years Eve to wish you a happy new year, you don't need to respond but it'd make me really happy if you did. And I hope everything gets better for you... I think it will. Don't forget about me <3

>>16616031
Do it.

>>16616031
Losing your virginity to someone you'll never see again. Sounds classy.

Personally, I wouldn't do it.

However, I'd never even contemplate it because that sort of stuff doesn't appeal to me. So we might just be different in that area.

Where do you live in the states? Move to a different city maybe. I was born in Chile and live in Wisconsin now. Other than some dumb comments people made when I was in grade school, I've never dealt with anything like that.

>>16615828

Arizona, i don't think it's the state bro, i think it's the people.

Move to Europe like the uk or Spain (given your Spanish is fine) it's actually quite nice here and at least in the uk pretty not racist as fuck, that and free health care and you could probably still go to uni here for cheap.

>>16612146
What's the difference between a "date" and "hanging out" besides phrasing?

Also it's better to ask in person/over the phone isn't it?

>>16612167
The difference is context. If you've flirted with me before, and I've felt sexual tension or at least gotten a sign that you're interested in me as more than a friend, "come hang out" means "netflix and chill."

If I barely know you and have no idea you're interested in me in a romantic way, and you ask to "hang out," I'll assume we're just buddies hanging out.

Always ask out in person. It adds a lot to the context. A coy smile or flirtatious...
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>>16612175
I'm pretty oblivious and don't pick up on things that well. In this situation, a girl coworker has point blank asked me to hang out with them. Originally the date was set for New Year's but I have work back to back that day.

Here's some additional context:
TL;DR W A R N I N G

We have some interests in common and even though I barely know them, they've suggested that I travel overseas with them in a few years, before they even gave me their number. I find that oddly specific...
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>>16606668
It died because it had reached the bumb limit.

Anyways, I saw my cousins agian today. The girls loved the Christmas presents I had bought for them. Seeing them gush about them was so adorable, and heart warming. Especially when the younger one ran to me and gave me a big hug after opening her presents.
I spent few hours by just being with them, watching them play with their presents, and just enjoying their company.
So many hugs, and cuddles.
I love those girls so damn much.

i dont know why you think its ok to put me through so much shit
this is NOT how any relationship should be
and yet you use your aspergers as an excuse for not understanding that you put me through so much fucking anxiety and self-hatred
you troll me so much its seriously boy who cried wolf and i can never understand what you really mean
like you have mood swings and seem to break up with me every single night and act like everythings cool the next day

ive told you time and time again you are the one girl for me but you dont believe me
that i would never...
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>>16616178
No, get him a 'World's Greatest Dad' mug.

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>>16616178
Get him this one.

>>16616200

I looked into that one, but it doesn't seem too applicable to my situation. Are there any books that talk about traumatizing your children by making them "play maid" for his mistress?

My friend's family did

>>16615765
My family has. Sometimes it can go as blady as 12 pm.

My family always did because my dad would get home late from work. I don't get home from work until 10pm now, so it continues.

You're fun to be around but she doesn't see a future with you.

Not really related to feminism at all.

The nuclear family is less popular (and less feasible) in the current atmosphere. There's not as much pressure to get married and pregnant immediately, so people aren't.

What's the advice that you need?

>>16615692
It's called fear of commitment and it's not new.

What did you find that's bothering you so much?

Follow your gut but be honest and straight about breaking up

>>16615533

what did you see?

honestly guys complain about it, but ghosting is in fact the best answer.

Nobody wants to be told out of the blue that they're unattractive and you won't consider dating them (which is the only thing anyone would ever hear from that). People who complain about that are simply emotionally immature; it's a matter of politeness.

Tell him you're transgender

"sorry you are not my type"

when they try to talk to you again say
"sorry you are not my type'

when they call you a bitch and said they just wana talk say
"sorry, I'm not interested in that'

then ignore.

Anyone...?

>>16615485
Surely Google would be better for such a technical question

>>16615589
Didn't really help, since my explanation sucks.

>>16615367

got pics? clothed is fine, but lets see if its too big or just big enough. even women like nice butts on men.

but if you have fat on ur gut to, yeah id say its time to lose weight. lifting doesnt help much for losing weight. can help maintain your muscle if ur already working out or have muscle worth maintaining.

but generally its about diet. calculate your daily expenditure (human average, 2000 if ur early 20s) then subtract 500 from that, and eat that daily.

my advice? spend your intake...
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>>16615367
Embrace it

>>16615401
>got pics?
Sorry, don't feel comfortable doing that. I'll take your diet advice though, seems very useful.

>>16615407
Fuck that.