What are the benefits of life drawing, as in, sitting in a class room drawing naked people? What do I gain from this exercise I don't gain from just photographs? Also, with all the Loomis memeing you guys do, I was wondering how human body drawing techniques such as the Loomis method could be applied to life drawing. I've attempted to use the Loomis method while doing life drawing before, and the result was always worse than simply drawing the body in front of me. I've always felt like stuff like the Loomis method was good for memory, but if you don't need to rely on memory (having a photograph or real person) its better to simply draw what you see.
>>2510670
Drawing from life you convert a 3d object (binocular vision, and you can walk around it too) to a 2d representation. Drawing from a photo you take a 2d representation and turn it into another 2d representation. There's a whole different level of understanding you will get from life. Not to mention that photos distort reality in many ways differently than your eye sees, from lens distortion to exposure ranges to colour intensity and variety.
Any method of construction is meant as a tool to help break down and understand what you are looking at. It's not meant to be a formula that you try to force to fit your model. When drawing from life, observation comes first.
Photos are a great tool, but they are not a replacement for drawing from life. Use them as a supplement or for things that are difficult to draw from life like things in motion or a specific design or place you don't have ordinary access to.
>>2510687
This
Plus life drawing is a good way to meet plebs whom are interested and motivated about the artist process.
On top of what other have already said, life drawing is a great way for me to to work really hard for a few hours. At home I have a lot of distractions, but during my life drawing sessions I am completely focused on my drawing and get a shit load done in a mere 3 hours. It's great.
If you want to build a porn based audience, what's the best website to use? Some people told me DeviantArt but I really doubt it.
Well, for starters, Hentai-foundry is probably the best place to post first. They only take what they deem "quality content". If they deny you then you know you're still shit and need to practice. Once you post a few good things, they will greenlist you allowing you to post freely without the go ahead from the mods. The positive of HF is that there isn't a ton of traffic, and the new stuff is posted right on the front page so everyone sees it. If you're good, you'll get followers in no time.
This one is obvious: but tumblr. I recommend doing tumblr after you have a good little following on Hentai-Foundry.
Thirdly, you can always self-promote in the self-promotion threads on 4chan.
Lastly, Deviantart doesn't allow EXTREME nsfw work, but they allow it to a certain extent. Maybe use your Deviant art as a sort of "ad" for your tumblr and Hentai-Foundry where your "real" porn goes.
>>2508864
when i said "traffic" I meant, "posters" so your stuff won't get drowned out TOO bad.
>>2508854
Wow, very informative, thank you. I have a question though, what amount of followers is considered good enough to move on to tumblr? 1,000? 2,000? 30,000?
Old one at 300
Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make your mom proud.
AVOID asking unrelated questions, There is a question thread for that.
Visit the usual "Art book Thread" to find your desired books.
Do not forget to PLEASE RESIZE and crop your images before uploading them. 1kpx is fine.
→ →
There's a new sticky in town! You can see it at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VfDTpLLVl5bWUGWguswKpPFml533luI8-NBd1EGYHnA/edit
>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.
Feel free to post your original works as well if you're trash.
TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.
Old thread: >>2502597
>>2507012
>smug voltaire
I almost thought I was on /his/ for a moment.
>artwork
>and
>critique
How hard is it to get into the animation industry (Storyboarding, character design, layouts, etc) if you don't have any connections? I feel like those application websites where you dump your resume and portfolio link don't do shit for you.
>>2505249
If you are truly good enough you work will speak for itself but connections won't hurt.
>>2505251
>>2505249
Keeping in mind that all these people who say "get connections" seem to forget that people who are working in the industry are bombarded all day long by morons looking to use them. Unless you have something to offer them back or to distinguish yourself from the throngs of cock munchers who msg them (a.k.a. some sort of artistic skill) you're not going to get far. People know when you're just trying to stroke their dick to get something from them.
The only advice that actually matters is getting better at your craft. Keep working hard to improve and keep putting work out there on social media. You'll know when you're getting good because people will be taking interest in the stuff you show. No buisness is going to hire you in a ultra competitive field unless you have something to offer them that makes them more money than they pay you, no matter who you know. Once you get to a certain level (and it doesn't have to be godlike) and are constantly putting your shit out there people will want to talk with you and it'll be easier to make connections and actively go after work. It's something that takes time and you build up to over years, you don't just go out and target a few industry guys on facebook and cold msg them asking to hook you up.
No pro wants to be friends with some IC pleb level idiot just cuz yur a cool dud. They know plenty of cool duds already.
>>2505249
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_XIiLCHmxA
is this what u want to work for anon
I know my anatomy is weird but I would appreciate getting some design feedback
>>2504712
Who is this character? What is his personality and role? What are you trying to show with your design? What society is he a part of?
It's hard to crit a design without context. Thinking more on who your character actually is will help too with your design choices.
Just looking at it out of context I will say it feels a bit generic at the moment. The shapes are all similar sizes and the silhouette have lots of little jutting things. How can you simplify things? How can you bring more variety in? How can it be a more recognizable or iconic design? How can you make things more functional?
I feel that these are not thought out enough. Ask yourself lots of questions then answer them with your design.
>>2504716
Woah I was not expecting such a complete answer. Yeah I need to think more before drawing random shapes... Thank you!
>>2504712
Are they all supposed to have the exact same silhouette?
What do you think about this?
Let's be honest: i think this is my best drawing yet it's piece of shit
Why are the mouth, eyes and nose where they are?
Because you didn't read the sticky.
>>2510640
I didn't read the sticky?
explain yourself
>>2510644
There's a sticky at the top of /ic/, it contains links that cover the basics and more for beginners. Read them, because it contains much better feedback for you than any anon will bother to give at this stage.
Once you're aware of stuff in the sticky you can come back here and ask for feedback, but right now the drawing you posted is plagued with the same mistakes ten million other people have made and nobody will bother to critique it for this reason.
People won't bother not because they're mean, but because all that needs to be critiqued is already in the sticky.
What are some of the most exciting things a freelance artist can do/participate in?
an ecstacy fueled gangbang
>>2510767
Drawing furry porn just to pay your rent
i have a bit of a problem makin stuff look symmetric even when usin guidelines, is there a way to fix that or am i fked.
>>2505676
Your cartoon note taking looks more fun to look at and expressive than the anime shit on the left and that's coming from a huge weeb. Maybe stop drawing anime and learn to draw correctly?
>>2505676
I like the bottom one.
>>2505677
lmao yeah im learning actual anatomy, been practicing with hampton's book and drew those Loomis dudes but Im trying to find my style, didn't really meant for it to look anime-ish
Have any other fellow d/ic/ks dealt with cubital tunnel syndrome before? I was diagnosed with it and haven't been able to draw for several months due to the pain.
If you don't know what it is, it's similar to carpal tunnel in the sense that it's pain in your wrist/hand, though primarily on the pinky side and in the 4th/5th fingers. Basically a nerve is compressed at the elbow and causing pain in the hand.
I'm considering surgery since it's gone on so long, but I wanted to know if anyone else was able to heal without it.
rip. did you do any regular hand warm up exercises before this happened?
>>2509879
Yeah, I'd seen a doctor a few years before about hand pain and he wrote it off as tendinitis. Since then I've made sure to stretch every day, but apparently it didn't help.
>pain in your wrist/hand, though primarily on the pinky side and in the 4th/5th fingers
i've been starting to feel this for days recently and was wondering what it was
I remember a few months ago there was a thread about artists on deviantart and there was a guy who constantly drew "penguins ocs" everyday in ms paint. Pretty sure the guy was retarded if it helps.
(Not 100% sure it was penguins he was drawing but it was something to that effect.)
http://kodyboy555.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=0
This guy?
>>2509024
you're my fucking hero man, thanks
Oh god this guy, yeah i'm pretty sure he is literally retarded and autistic.
I'm looking for a present for a friend and I've stopped on these 2 paintings by a local artist.
Which do you like more? I know they are not something extraordinaire. I'm on a tight budget...
>>2509740
What does your friend like? What type of apartment/house do they live in (what style decor do they have already)? You probably can pick it out better than we can for your friend. Personally I would choose the one on the left because it is a bit more interesting to me and less like hotel lobby art. But that's my own personal taste. Also if you are on a tight budget, maybe don't buy art? I don't know the price on these, but typically paintings are not worth buying if you have no money.
>>2509747
About 35 bucks each. I was surprised to find them this cheap. They are both 56x38 cm.
He lives in a dorm. Enough said, I think.
I'm actually leaning towards the left one too. I think it's fashionable.
>>2509754
Just get him a scott robertson book, he'll be able to draw better that those both paintings.
How good is your visual memory? Let's try and draw something we are all familiar with;
A map of planet Earth
Be as detailed as you can and no cheating, this is a test.
>>2507160
Too easy.
>>2507216
looks preettyy accurate to me desu
ok tried to be accurate
>>2507216 kek
This has been bothering me for about a year now.
Right now, Im studying Digital Art at LSU, and while the programs getting better, were learning nothing about the 2D Animation Pipeline. I was having a crisis last semester looking at CalArts and SCAD curriculums and was going to consider transferring but the prices are too entirely fucking high. Because scholarships/financial aid, school is buku cheap in state, but I know that im missing out on so much. The program here is generally focused around 3D with a SHIT ton of filler classes (print photography, 3 printmaking classes, etc. ). I am really enjoying the 3D classes, and am halfway through my film minor i picked up to get everything i can out of this school.
My question i guess, is there a place to pick up really good 2D animation lessons/ books? Im kind of making a list of shit to study based off what the curriculums in actual art schools suggest but its only going to tell me so much.
also, thread for those of us going to school for art where art isnt the focus. how are you liking the courses, getting the know;edge you so desperately want.
>buku
It's beaucoup (and it doesn't make any damn sense in this context in either case fampai)
Anyway my man
>My question i guess, is there a place to pick up really good 2D animation lessons/ books
Richard Williams' Animator's Survival Kit
Preston Blair's animation books and AMB Animation Academy (https://www.youtube.com/user/eubasaban) on youtube are some of the better resources out there for the 2D pipeline.
>>2510141
im sure theres a proper use for it but its phrase said in the south a lot. im from louisiana,so i assume my entire dialect stems from butchering grammar.
and thanks. i just picked up Richard's book this semester but havent been able to practice much cause of school and work. Ill look into the other one.
I am not a professional artist and I don't work in the industry so i am about to talk out my ass.
Scad and other over priced art schools are a huge waste of money. With that being said I still think having a mentor is essential to getting better. I would find a local mentor and learn from them. It shouldn't be too hard to find some one better than you if you arnt in the middle of no where or already amazing.
I need your advice /ic/
pic unrelated
I have to get into collage so I can get my parents off my back, but the problem is the only viable art school here is extremely limited, they accept 10 students a year and are notorious for taking bribes to accept students, basically for rich parents to dump their good for nothing kids who won't/don't need to amount to anything in life. So my other option is fashion design. After 2-3 years I can finish the rest of my schooling in any other art/design related collage.
I'd finish that up while grinding my own art in the meanwhile then I'll probably choose another collage, hopefully abroad that's more art/drawing related. Here are some of the classes I think would benefit me:
Drawing and painting (2 years)
Drawing and making historical costumes and textiles (2 years)
Elements/construction/creation of clothing (3 different subjects, all 3 years)
3D modelling (of clothing, 2 years)
Fashion design (2 years)
Fashion illustration (1 year)
Visual communication (2 years)
And extra 3 years of foreign language (English) and art history
Do you think this is a good idea? or rather get a job, make my parents hate me and grind art with any free time I have left.
Options after this are either continue with fashion design or try to get into graphics design collage or graphics on the architectural collage.
Thoughts?
>>2508602
What is your ideal goal for your art? What does your stuff look like now? How self-motivated are you? What school are you talking about? How good are you at negotiating with your parents? How much of an issue is money?
It's hard to give advice without knowing the full picture here.
Get a job. College gets you nowhere. If you want n art job, you need to just draw what you want to sell until you're good at it. If you can't study on your own you're another lost cause. go to the military, then get a job as a public servant.
>>2508610
Concept art. Decent, not professional lvl I still have a lot of work. Decently, been drawing 6h a day for almost a year now. School of textile and fashion design. It won't end too well if I don't go to a collage (they believe you can never get a decent job without a diploma). Money is a big issue, we are pretty poor (but schooling in my country is basically free).
Sry for not providing more info
What makes a western artist who draws anime shit less credible?
Let's say hypothetically he draws decent anime style drawings, ones which feature proper perspective, anatomy, etc that characters look "human".
Is he seen as more childish than the person drawing Steven Universe fan art merely because he is emulating an eastern style?
Wouldnt the former gain more respect on a technical level? Anime can look a lot more like actual people than tumblr noodle arms and western ''cartoony'' sloppiness, on a merely technical level anime style artists put more work into their drawings because their drawings try harder to look more human, perhaps not in the face, but in anatomy, some artists are very good.
So why the hate? If a western artist can successfully pull off an eastern style, then more power to them, but I dont understand why anime can be seen as a "lesser" style to western cartoons when so much of it is inferior in terms of anatomical features.
As long as it is decent I don't see an issue with western anime drawing. A lot of my favorite porn artists are western. And there are just as many bad japs as there are here.
>>2505477
It's not an issue if you learn proper fundamentals. I used to get told constantly not to draw anime and that I never learn. I relented and took life drawing and other drawing classes. Now I go back and forth between anime and more western styled things all the time and nobody ever gives me flack about it. In fact a lot of times it seems like people really prefer my anime influenced drawings. Not sure how I feel about that.
tldr git gud and people won't say shit
>>2505477
>but I dont understand why anime can be seen as a "lesser" style to western cartoons
No one sees it like that other than maybe a handful of weirdos on /ic/ who are unhealthily obsessed with hating anime, probably because they were really into anime when they were younger and are embarassed of their cringy weeb past. That and tumblr landwhales who are obsessed with drawing pretty girls as ugly as possible.
