There are a lot of things nerds have an elitist superiority complex about when they are actually inferior. This is what this topic is about.
>3.X is the most awful edition of DnD the fact that anyone would think this imbalanced tedious RP-lite mess is good is stupid
>AoS is closer to what Warhammer both 40k and Fantasy were in their prime; WHFB was a pathetic watered down wargame at least AoS is bringing back what made Warhammer in general interesting and unique from wargames who had at that point lost popularity post 70s; the people who hate on AoS are the ones who have shit taste wanting their shitty so called "wargame" back and don't know jack shit about Warhammer and wargaming
>Shadowrun is a shitshow and the worst cyberpunk system out there. It still relies on dumb cliches which even WoD has moved on from and also suffers from DnD 3.X's too many rules leading to not actually having enough roleplay options
>nWoD is better than oWoD; the fuckboys that hate on nWoD cuz it doesn't have shitty oWoD metafluff are not creative enough to be in this hobby and should do something else
>>44249601
>3.X is the most awful edition of DnD the fact that anyone would think this imbalanced tedious RP-lite mess is good is stupid
Agreed
>AoS is closer to what Warhammer both 40k and Fantasy were in their prime; WHFB was a pathetic watered down wargame at least AoS is bringing back what made Warhammer in general interesting and unique from wargames who had at that point lost popularity post 70s; the people who hate on AoS are the ones who have shit taste wanting their shitty so called "wargame" back and don't know jack shit about Warhammer and wargaming
Nice meme, but agreed-ish
>nWoD is better than oWoD; the fuckboys that hate on nWoD cuz it doesn't have shitty oWoD metafluff are not creative enough to be in this hobby and should do something else
Never played either and don't know a damn thing about it
>Shadowrun is a shitshow and the worst cyberpunk system out there. It still relies on dumb cliches which even WoD has moved on from and also suffers from DnD 3.X's too many rules leading to not actually having enough roleplay options
Only point I don't really agree on. Every cyberpunk system out there sucks, desu, Shadowrun is just the least bad of the bunch. And I'd say there's still plenty of roleplay options. Hell, no one says GURPS lacks for roleplay options and it's the definition of rules.
>>44249601
First point is true.
Second point is... iffy. Regardless of how WHFB used to be, AoS is pretty much a shit show in many factors. I mean, by 8th WHFB was pretty bad too, so it wasn't much of a drop.
Third point is correct.
Fourth point is also correct, for the most part.
I award you 7/10, good effort.
>>44249601
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Take a look at this glorious motherfucker, gue'la. He is coming to liberate your planet from its oppressive overlords on the other side of the galaxy. He is going to free the shit out of you.
>>44249541
Neat
>>44249541
So... If Tau have cobalt in their blood it should be yellow.
Yet we always see the blood depicted as either blue or red. Opinions?
>>44249689
Imperials and Orks think their blood should be blue due to a lack of knowledge. The Warp changes the Tau's blood color. That's what I always go with.
Welcome to Academy City. The time is morning, the weather is murky, and the date is February 1.
You are Kyril Torikov, Level 3 telekinetic ‘superhero’ and you were only slightly annoyed. Given the events of yesterday, you had partially expected to jump through some hoops today. You just hadn’t figured that acquiring Asuka’s company for the day would involve going through her mother. At least you didn’t have to brave Tokiwadai’s Outer Dormitory. Regardless, you needed Asuka. She was going to be instrumental to your plans for the day and it was unlikely that she would turn down the chance for some premeditated murder. The Guild had attempted to kill you and Kyousuke the day prior. It was only fair that you tried to kill them right back. That your friend Nakazawa was nearly caught in the crossfire, and on his birthday no less, was beside the point.
As for the hoop that you had to jump through, well, it had to do with Touma yet again. He had come home yesterday. You knew since you had picked him up at the airport. Regardless, Asuka’s mother, the Lady London, had requested that you bring him along if you wanted any chance of walking away with Asuka in your arms. The Lady London had also used words like, “Her Royal Highness,” “fiancée,” and, “double date,” so you were also rather curious about what Touma had been up to in Europe. That, and why had he returned alone. Kaoru was not with him. The problem was whether it was better to show up as VERDICT or as your civilian persona. Knowing the kind of circles the Lady London ran in, Touma’s new girl was undoubtedly Code M. Then again, Asuka’s mother had received a call from “Ilyena’s boy,” your civilian persona. It would be awfully suspicious to show up as VERDICT now.
In the end, you picked Touma up and went as,
>VERDICT
>Kyril Torikov
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>>44249192
>Kyril Torikov
>>44249192
>Kyril Torikov
You went and picked Touma up as Kyril Torikov. It had the added benefit of not having to change costumes while under observation. The only downside was that you were subject to public transportation. You weren’t surprised that the Index was tagging along as you accompanied them to the British Embassy. The guards had stiffened considerably when they caught sight of your party.
“So, does he get a title when he marries or?”
“He does not,” Index answered your question, “Probably. It’s complicated.”
You had been chatting about the British Peerage and other such honours. Your curiosity had mostly come from the fact that the Lady London was obviously Japanese.
“I’m not marrying her, this whole fiancée thing is just a big misunderstanding,” Touma complained.
It went unheard, at least for the two of you.
“Hmph, going back on your words so soon? How despicable?”
The figure of the Second Princess of the United Kingdom was wreathed in an intense yellow. There were no visible weapons on her person. Strangely, or perhaps unsurprisingly, there were no journalists laying in wait.
“Your Highness,” the Index curtsied.
“Such misfortune,” Touma brought palm to face.
“Sister,” the Princess returned, “and who may you be?”
She had turned to address you next.
“Kyril Torikov,” you replied casually.
You hadn’t felt the need to bow and the Princess. Likewise she regarded you coolly.
“Carissa, Military Attaché,” her reply carried a professional air.
“Your Highness, there you are,” the Lady London’s voice carried through the courtyard, “Well, what are you doing man? Let them in.”
Nervously, the guards unlocked the gate and ushered your party inside. The gate swung shut with a resounding clang. Accompanying her mother was Asuka herself.
“A bit of advice, it’s never nice to keep a lady waiting,” the crazy woman continued.
You were pretty sure the look of annoyance on both the Princess and your girlfriend wasn’t because they had been waiting.
[1/2]
PREVIOUSLY: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=Star+Wars%3A+Fortune+Hunter
After spending the night in the ship in Jabba’s Hangar, all of you were in the midst of your chores. As you approached the Lion’s Share from Jabba’s refresher, you came upon Misri checking over your new purchase, R3. Next to her was R4, whom was covered in what appeared to be scorchmarks. Now how did that happen while you were away? “Misri. How is he?”
“Eh, can’t complain,” she says. “But no targeting software means that his blasters and other weapons inside him are probably going to go berserk.” R3 chirps, ramming into R4.
“Stop that,” says R4. “That’s annoying.” R3 winds back, and smashes into R4, knocking him over. “Ow! You little-“ R3 quickly speeds around you and Misri, then wheels himself back into the Lion’s Share. “When I get up, I am going to give you a thrashing!” Lev walks by, carrying one last crate of food and ammo. “Lev! Help me up!”
Lev looks down at him for a minute, then continues walking. “No.”
“Damn it!” R4 wiggles himself around, trying to get up. That was the big problem about astromechs. If they fell over on their backs, they couldn’t easily get back up on their own. But you decide to ignore that for now and talk with Misri.
“So we got all the food, all the weapons restocked?” She nods. “Good, good,” you say. “Listen, Misri-“
“I know,” she says. “You’re going to want what the Jawas did to your R-22… polished. Don’t worry, I’ll sand it down for you, repaint it, and all that junk, and you’ll never know you tried to thread a needle and failed in doing it!” She grins. “By the way, that was pretty stupid of you.”
[1/3]
>>44249008
[2/3]
“I’m doing a lot of stupid things lately,” you say. “But thanks regardless, Misri.” She smiles happily, grateful at being complimented. You hear Vikker calling out to you, at the end of the hangar. “Hold on a second.” She nods, moving to pull R4 back upright as you walk over to Vikker. By the look on that aqualish’s face, he does not look very happy at all. “Vikker, what do you need?”
He crosses his arms. “Nothing except to give you my advice. Once the Furies break the blockade and make a hole for us, I say we leave for Coruscant, and just get out. Jogi’s already transferred the papers over to me, we can get through Imperial security fine. But I don’t want to stick around for this Mando political talk. It’s going to get us killed.”
“You sure?” you ask. You step up and squint at the sunset. Kuvasz is busy cleaning guns inside of the ship, so he probably won’t hear the conversation you and Vikker are having. “I mean, yeah, Mandos here can’t be here forever. But I figure we could-“
“Yeah, no. That’s not going to work, not now,” he says. “Listen. I know Lotte screwing us over might have rattled you a bit.” You glare at him. How dare he? Of course, Lotte screwing you over rattled you ‘a bit’. What is he saying? “But that doesn’t mean you should be rushing to be some kind of hero. We’re not heroes, Rhys. Look at me, I’ve spent my best years smuggling and gunrunning. Kuvasz is… well, he’s a Mandalorian. Lev and Sparks are droids designed to kill people, and Misri-“ He stops himself when he sees your expression. If he says anything against Misri, you might just punch him right now. You are not in the mood for this. “Look. Stop thinking about others for once. There’s nothing wrong with being selfish in a galaxy like this.”
>>44249018
[3/3]
“Look, Kuvasz has been good to me,” you say. “I just want to be good to him too.”
“We’ve been plenty good to him. But I’m starting to regret ever hiring him at all. I’m not going to get dragged into some personal crusade of redemption, both for him and you.” He taps your chest. “Make a choice, Rhys. I’m choosing my skin, and yours and Misri’s skin too.” He steps back towards the ship, then steps up the boarding ramp.
Misri turns her head as he looks over R4 for damage. Ah. She heard that. She bites her lip, shrugging nervously as she goes back to checking R4. You sigh, rubbing your forehead.
But at the slight tap your shoulder, you flinch. “Hey.” A weequay guard growls a little, holding up a holopad. “You gots a call from the Empire, some dame named Lotte.”
> “Well, too bad I’m not here to answer.”
> “Hand it over.”
> Other
>>44249026
> “Hand it over.”
I'm having issues building a suitably exporable house for a game. /tg/, when you design a building floor plan for a game, where do you draw the line between architectureally believable and playably maze-like? What are your preferences as players? What are some favorites tricks as GMs?
The building in mind needs to be a vaguely colonial american era mansion, possibly with extentions and alterations from over the years. Problem I find is that the floorplans of those sorts of buildings are all eminently practical with a centrall foyer and off branching rooms. None of that scoobydo style creaky halls shit. Problem is I sorta wanted the weird winding halls, but I'm not even sure how to arrange rooms such that there are corners and long stretches without the floorplan starting to look absolutely ridiculous.
>>44249068
Hallways are a feature of hotels, hospitals, and sometimes offices, rarely residences.
There is no general formula. You have to custom tailor each map to fit, which can be hard as you usually have to steal these from somewhere. Whether the focus is on historical accuracy, atmosphere, tactical layout, or a certain story device that requires a feature, there are no universal maps.
I usually start by deciding on how to convey flavor. Sometimes I want an architectural blueprint, sometimes a hand drawn sketch would be better. Often I find a great photograph and then produce a crude pencil floor plan. It really depends on the sense of space I want the players to have at the location.
How do I become the sword of justice?
Live by a strict code.
Punish EVERYONE who doesn't conform to your views.
Plot twist - your views have nothing to do with alignment, but involve minor things like, tying your shoe laces left over right instead of right over left. Or making sure beggars eat a whole loaf of bread before you finally leave them alone. Even if they aren't hungry.
Or giving exactly 7 gold pieces, 32 silver pieces, and 80 copper to religious temples. Any less and they can't operate. Anymore and they start becoming wealthy and invite greed and avarice into their temple to pollute their sacred teachings.
>>44249395
What if I find myself in a conflict where neither side is right or wrong, and they both have legitimate reasons for fighting?
>>44250158
Focus on the innocent of the conflict. Whoever is against them/harms them, even if it's inadvertently, needs to be punished.
Non-Chaos or "Good" Beastmen in Warhammer Fantasy?
Discuss.
Beastmen of Sigmar? Sure, why not?
Well beastmen are really just mutated humans, and since mutants can still be good, there's really no reason beastmen couldn't ally with the Empire, or worship "human" gods.
They might not appreciate the gesture but it would be interesting to see scores of beastmen summoning the powers of Sigmar and routing the forces of chaos.
I see no opportunities in the Warhammer world for 'good' beastmen to exist.
Default 'naturally occurring' beastmen have a culture/religion whatever dedicated to tearing down the lawful races. A beastman with different ideas would be as popular as a hijab at a Donald Trump campaign.
Beastmen / mutants born of the peasant women in the villages that are left in the forest to die / get collected by wandering tribes are the same. The best such wretches see of the milk of human kindness is being chucked out instead of being put on the chopping block because some peasant's too scared or won't go through with the dirty work.
Perhaps a hobby for a particularly zealous, well resourced individual? Wizards do crazy shit all the time, and many of the nobility have strange ideas... (but, why my lord, open yourself up to risking having your lands seized and being burned at the stake for a chance at teaching manners to a monstrous rape-baby demonspawn?)
If you stretch the conditions, then yeah, sure, you could have a one-off example. MI could see a tragic story of someone trying to teach a beast-monster to be man, reminiscent of Frankenstein or the Island of Dr Moreau. But the difference here is that the stuff flowing through Beastmen's veins amounts to magical atavistic evil. I'd like it if the story ended with the beastman 'experiemnt' going horribly badly after several seeming 'breakthroughs in the science of educating the savage beast'
General. Keep Diplomacy and trade here.
>>44248131
[What does that 21 mean anyway? I didn't exactly send one of our priests or such]
>>44248175
''We have always been glad to trade and entertain others. If you wish, you may send some delegates with me upon my return that they may see the land themselves. What can you tell me of your people?''
>>44248235
"That would be most excellent. You see, we're a bit of a stubborn folk, you might say. We don't believe anything until we see it with our own eyes. We always make sure for ourselves, you see. So when you tell this court of your dwarven lands well, there isn't a single one of us that isn't fighting the urge to run off North right now and catch a glimpse. We'll trade for anything and everything you can offer, too. All kinds of experiences to be had, there. It's just how we live our lives. We want to taste every kind of food, see every kind of land, and nothing stops us. But enough about us. We are dying to know about you. Please, tell us."
>>44248131
Population[20,020](+20/turn)
Food: >Scarce(no growth)
Raw Currency: [0] (+-2)
Culture: [10] (+0/turn)
Happiness: [Content)
Territory: 20 Hexes
Unique Buildings: Classic Castle
Defenses:
Trade Routes:
Bonuses:
Destroyer of Heathans: Reroll any 1 battle roll each turn when fighting npc factions that you view as savages/scum.
Manifest Destiny: Add +5 to any one roll to expand borders each turn.
Eccentricities:
Imperialist: Your obvious desire to expand your borders can sometimes cause diplomatic issues with other nations.
Military Units:
150 ships
x2 Human Platoons [x3]
Resources/Quantity:
+200 lumber/turn
Saltpeter
Schools of fish
Wheat Seeds
Corn Seeds
100 Iron Swords
100 Armor
Technologies:
[Weapon Making 1]
[Fishing 1]
[Writing 1]
[Survival 1]
[Mining 1]
[Smithing 1]
[Farming 1]
[Printing Press 2]
I know of Venicia and Gloiningen.
Actions:
Can *truly* alien cosmic horrors ever make legitimately compelling villains in heroic fantasy campaigns? They work in horror, sure, but what about heroic fantasy?
If you make them *truly* alien, then they are, by definition, completely impossible to understand. They act in ways that mortal minds simply cannot figure out any rhyme or reason to. That does not exactly make for an interesting story.
If you make them even vaguely relatable and understandable, then that defeats the point of them being alien cosmic horrors. They become, for all intents and purposes, demons or other spooky otherworldly monsters, just with their own distinctand inexplicably tentacle-laden, for some reasonaesthetic.
Use saints.
When there's an incomprehensible being, it's not a bad idea to use intermediaries to help bridge the gap. An alien mind may be the true villain, but the cultist that acts under its orders provides the players with someone who has goals they can comprehend, even if the cultist themselves lacks that ability.
Also, keep your spoilered text to yourself next time.
>>44248186
But then it becomes a matter of the cultist's goals, as opposed to the true villain's goals.
>>44247901
I would say they work well as short term villains, to add a bit of a horror element to a campaign arc, but they shouldn't be used as a BBEG.
Heroic fantasy is all about the hero's battle having meaning to it. But when their enemy is just so different that you can't understand why it does what it does, you lose the emotional motivation. The
Stat me /tg/
>>44247567
Oyvey/10
>>44247567
Smug Finn Ranger, lv1.
Feel free however to imagine the owlbear statblock right here beneath that.
>>44247605
Only level 1?
I mean, he defeats a devil solehandedly. Thats gotta count for something?
Hey guys, let me know when you are here!
>>44246633
Still waiting on Miel lewds.
When we build the Miel Hegemony's new capital, I wonder if we should build a control AI for it.
>>44246717
Like, a hivemind?
Hello how do you do?
>>44246633
here how are things
>looking at an old Dragon issue
>see ad for Heroic Fantasy, a play-by-mail game/campaign
>"Huh, I wonder if the rules for this game are online."
>Google it
>the company (Flying Buffalo) is still in business
>the campaign is apparently still running over 30 years later
>$5 to get into the game then $3 per turn
>>44246573
understand, the company is probably one man and a piece of homebrew software.
The only reason most of these things don't last is a lack of intestinal fortitude, but there's always some nerd living in the basement of his parents basement with the spare time for this kind of thing.
>>44246573
I wonder if anyone is actually still playing it? It's actually impossible to know since they don't list current players.
>>44248892
Only one way to find out guys>>44246573
Let's make a kingdom, /tg/. Any comment is true, provided it doesn't contradict any previous comments.
>>44246362
The king is a dog
>>44246362
The king is a knight
>>44246380
>>44246399
Dogknight king confirmed
So lord. I see you got some land and some peasants working it growing wheat. I've got a no bullshit way of getting more money out of that land, fairly easy too.
1: have your peasants dig a hole in the ground about ten meters to a side and a meter and a half deep, then have them line it with stones.
2: flood said hole in the ground with water
3: Drop a few of these fish i've got living in my tank into the artificial pond
4: Have your peasants throw grain with mashed up into the pond every once and a while
5: After two years or so these fish will have made a whole bunch of fish which have grown up which can be caught and sold for a huge profit, which you keep on doing so long as you throw a few back.
You'll be rolling in gold soon enough with this plan
>>44246291
They do something like that in China; they keep fish in their rice paddies.
However, are you sure that the grain would actually be needed? Couldn't the ecosystem sustain itself based on planted water-plants?
The expression is "once in a while", by the way.
>>44246291
They did this.
>>44246389
>However, are you sure that the grain would actually be needed? Couldn't the ecosystem sustain itself based on planted water-plants?
For a certain number of fish, yes. Just as you could feed pigs by enclosing an area and letting them root about all day. But if you want to get a lot of fish per square meter feeding them slop (or grain) is the way to go.
New OOTS is up, faster than the previous one.
So THAT'S what the teleport orb was for...
>>44246014
Really? the council made up entirely of divine casters are going to allow a magical loophole like that?
>>44246045
They did say "pass through these arches".
Technically, you aren't when you're teleporting.
>>44246014
>I brought snacks now
Don't clerics have the ability to magic up food?
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