Wanted to buy a glock, but now I don't because they don't have a safety.
Any suggestions for a 9mm handgun with a conventional safety?
>>28716161
Define conventional safety?
THE TRIGGER IS THE SAFETY
Your finger is the only safety you need
http://patria.fi/en/media/news/patria-amv-vehicle-selected-united-arab-emirates
"The General Headquarters of the United Arab Emirates’ Armed Forces has ordered Patria AMV 8x8 armoured wheeled vehicles. All details of the contract are classified.
“This is a magnificent extension for the ongoing, successful co-operation between the UAE Armed Forces and Patria. UAE Armed Forces have been very satisfied with their existing AMV vehicles as they meet all the customer’s needs and are suitable for the needed, challenging circumstances. These vehicles will be produced by our Polish partner in a very tight time schedule. The agreement done now is very significant for Patria, and we are excited about this and looking forward to providing the vehicles”, says Mika Kari, President of Patria Land business unit."
United Arab Emirates buying AMVs is good news for Patria sure. It is just sad that Lockheed went full Chinese and fucked Patria to ass, by stopping cooperating on Havoc.
interesting if they go with Bakhcha-U turret
What is the rationale behind the Arabs ordering everything under the sun? Seems like it would create logistics, training issues, etc.
>>28715995
More money than brains
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvHlW1h_0XQ
Russians keep telling me that this video is bullshit, and that LRASM will never work because Russian jamming, laser dazlers, flares, chaff, and kashtan are to strong. Why doesn't the united states invest in hyper sonic missiles like brahmos instead of wasting money on subsonic slow missiles?
>>28715428
Who are these "Russians" that keep telling you this? Russians in the youtube comment section?
>using supersonic missiles to remove kebab
>>28715428
Bump because I have wondered the same thing regarding missile speed.
It can't be cost, right?
So what weapons are being kept top secret?
>>28714726
the top secret ones
The ones that aren't movie props?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_b1hpPZOaE
How plausible is this? Can this scenario stand? It's a new twist on the why battleships should be recalled into service angle.
I cringe a little when Japs pit their WW2 ships against modern ones.
Like that Appergio show where for *reasons* WW2 ships are brought back to life with super duper bullshitium powered laser cannons and don't forget their all little girls inside.
They lost and need to fucking get over it. There's nothing wrong with being proud of your military history but coming up with absurd headcanon reasons for why WW2 ships would be in modern media is just embarrassing.
>BB fags gonna be be fags.
All hope is lost.
I guess most of you people still remember the bullshit directive some EU folks tried to propose after Paris' attacks in 2015. The idea was to ban all semiauto firearms on European soil, and limit storing guns in your home.
The tl;dr version of how this mess was received by the population:
>an opposing online petition with some million signatures by now.
>Finland plain out directly said that bullshit won't be adopted by them, because it'd kill reservist activities.
>Whole thing was technically BTFO in a live EU discussion event, where only couple stuttering UK and Belgium fags tried to support it.
>Americans were all "Europoors can own guns??"
It's been a couple months now, and things seemed to have quieted down. However, it's still not safe to let your guard down though.
When this crap first was brought up, I wrote to an open mail to the EUROPE DIRECT Contact Centre, stating my personal opposition and why the whole law would be silly as hell, not helping fight terrorism one bit.
Just today I actually got a reply from them, which I'll be posting next:
>>28714480
part 1:
"Dear Mr ANON,
Thank you for contacting us.
As your enquiry was rather complex, we had to consult specialised services in order to prepare the answer. We apologise for the delay and any inconvenience this may have caused you.
The terrorist attacks carried out on European soil in the course of 2014 and 2015, culminating in the attacks in Paris on 13 November 2015, illustrate the need and the urgency to strengthen existing tools and to scale up the EU-level response to better fight against terrorism and trafficking in and use of firearms and explosives.
We are not planning to put legal gun owners in the orbit of terrorism. The fight against illicit trafficking of firearms and explosives goes hand in hand with the fight against organised crime and terrorism along with a better control of the legal trade. And we have to avoid that criminals and terrorists circumvent the rules and exploit loopholes.
Semi-automatic weapons represent a high share of today's hunting and sport-shooting weapons. However, the evaluation study used for the preparation of the revised legislation concludes that some semi-automatic arms can be easily converted into automatic arms, and the existing Directive does not provide any technical criteria to prevent such conversion. However, even in the absence of conversion into category A', certain semi-automatic firearms can be very dangerous when their capacity regarding the number of rounds is high.
... "
>>28714489
part 2:
"...
The evaluation of the Firearms Directive implementation and other preparatory studies demonstrated the increasing use of internet as a sales channel for firearms and the difficulties to control it. Considerations about a serious risk of fraud in case of acquisition by means of distance communication may increase with a wider use of such sales method in the future. Given the recent terrorist attacks where in some cases firearms were illegally assembled with components legally bought via Internet, it would be an important risk not to regulate this sales channel. Moreover, it will be more difficult to verify on line the legality of authorisations for arms possession. The risk is still higher in the case of acquisition from third countries.
The Commission in order to complement its recent legislative proposal has just adopted an Action Plan to better fight trafficking in firearms. It foresees a number of initiatives around four main priorities: restricting access to illegal firearms and explosives, enhancing operational cooperation, improving the collection and sharing of information and international cooperation.
In this context, the Commission has decided not to forbid the sale of all semi-automatic weapons but only the ones that are considered to be the most dangerous. This constitutes only a small amount of all available semi-automatic weapons. This only concerns former automatic weapons which have been converted into semi-automatic weapons, as well as semi-automatic arms which resemble automatic weapons that are used in armed combat.
..."
>>28714498
part 3:
"...
The Commission does not propose any changes concerning other types of semi-automatic weapons which citizens can purchase with an authorisation. This includes the following types of semi-automatic weapons in particular: semi-automatic short firearms or short repeating firearms, semi-automatic long firearms whose magazine and chamber can hold more than three rounds together, semi-automatic long firearms whose magazine and chamber cannot hold more than three rounds together, as well as repeating long firearms and semi-automatic firearms with smoothbore and with a barrel which does not exceed 60 cm.
We hope you find this information useful. Please contact us again if you have other questions.
With kind regards,
EUROPE DIRECT Contact Centre"
Lets see them /k/
CZ Rami for 685 after taxes and bg check or an M&P shield 9 for around 500ish from private sellers?
Is the extra capacity and sa/da worth the extra shekels and width?
>M&P Shield 9
>$500
>mfw
Unless you live in Europe and had it smuggled up some gypsy's ass, you're getting fucked with a rake.
>>28712104
>Is the extra capacity and sa/da worth the extra shekels and width?
The premium price on the CZ is for the construction, materials, and name brand. Biggest gripe is even then they don't give you a fucking steel guide rod. 50 bucks for a new spring and guide rod from the custom shop.
Or you could get an LC9s for $350-$375. Or a KelTec. Or whatever other subcompact. They're all pocket guns that are inherently a compromise for concealability. Don't try to read too much into it, IMO. It's not a gun you'll go shooting for fun. It's a gun you want to make sure goes bang when the time is right. Most any gun worth it's salt from a non-shit brand will do that.
>>28712104
I know the M&P Shield is like the standard for concealed carry, but I haven't heard much about the cz. I do prefer SA/DA though, and the extra capacity is probably worth it. In my experience, width doesn't matter that much, the important thing is having a short grip, but this is coming from a guy who cc's a full sized USP, so I may be full of shit.
I don't know anything about the pricing of those guns, but I'd probably go for the cz
Make 'em post 'em and talk about them
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>>28710692
http://strawpoll.me/6614187
To vote
>>28710720
That backwards r is stupid.
So why were US subs so much more successful than the Krauts at blockading and starving out an island nation?
Was it anything different they did doctrine-wise, or could the Japs just not into anti-submarine warfare?
>>28710497
The Japs had no effective convoy system. Of course they would be decimated.
>>28710497
Lend-Lease saved the Brits' asses, as much as they hate to admit it. After Dunkirk they had no guns, no ammo, next to no way to fight back. After the Blitz they were running out of food, and basic necessities. So, enter America with a shiny new Atlantic fleet and the largest mercantile fleet at the time, positively bursting at the seems with resources to send to Dear Old Mummy England.
>>28710633
As with Canada. The Brits got lucky.
Post your favorite gun camouflage paint jobs
>>28710412
That's good but here's mine
>>28710640
Fuck, that's good.
>>28710640
Cutting edge shit anon, you can't even see the damn thing! A shame if you forgot where you put it though.
/k/ want a retro AR. What do you guys think of these? Crap or what?
>>28709808
They're great, yea.
>>28709808
forgot link
https://rguns.net/shop/r-guns-20-pencil-barrel-a1-upper-assembly/
https://rguns.net/shop/r-guns-lower-black-5-56x45mm-a2-stock/
>>28709817
>C7 upper
>Delta ring
>A2 FA
Goddamned right I'm triggered
Had a great time with the last thread, let's keep it going.
>>28709308
slow night.
/300k Starting Colonel/
>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
Resources:
>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage
OP template
http://pastebin.com/sb5Gv1dW
Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga
Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/4671253
Ask questions, answer questions, bitch about Air Force recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor. Just keep it contained to this general you clucks.
Fun jobs that will let me station around the world as well as give me mental prep to drop a selection packet a few years down the line? College degree, 95 AFQT no line scores yet, interested in medicine, human intelligence, and flight.
I want to join the military, but there's no way I'd stand for this sort of shit.
I'm very hard-working and motivated. I don't need some fatass drill cunt shouting abuse at me. I won't fucking stand for it. I'd beat the shit out of him if he tried it on me.
>inb4 no you wouldn't
16 years of Judo
9 years of BJJ
4 years of boxing
Yes I fucking would.
I want to go into the division of my choosing and train specifically for the missions I want to do. For example, sniper or special missions involving hostage extraction.
It seems the only way you can do these sort of things is by starting at the bottom and spending a minimum of 4-6 years building your way up and through promotions.
Fuck that. I'm elite. I have a Masters degree and two black belts. I'd only do it on MY terms.
>inb4 this means you lack discipline and wouldn't be suitable
No, it demonstrably does not. Quite the opposite actually. I'm not some 16 year old falter who dropped out of high-school. I'm a finely tuned and well oiled machine.
I want my missions given to me in a fancy offices. I don't want to be told to grab a shovel because we're "digging in tonight".
>>28706756
Navy Flight Officer
Are crossbows useful in any way, form, or shape in this age?
Have they improved compared to the middle ages significantly?
>>28697857
They're only useful if they have a Slide Fire stock. Otherwise, the rate of fire is too low.
>>28697857
Faithful reproductions of Medieval crossbows would take a little more skill to use but are probably far more effective in use than modern target/hunting crossbows. Besides, they look proper and not like some kind of tactizombie mall ninja abortion that begs for death. If you get a crossbow, get an authentic-ish one like OP Pic with a nice heavy draw and go have yourself some fun.
>>28697857
They can easily penetrate soft ballistic armor. Ballistic plate. not so much.