Why do people advocate for ARs for HD well shotguns are so much more effective at household distances?
>post your shotguns
>tell me why I'm wrong
that is a nice m4, although a little too mall-ninja for my taste.
buckshot doesn't really start to spread out noticeably until ~25m, so at those close distances it's just the volume and mass of the rounds that make for effective incapacitation
Hickok says that ARs are better than shotguns for HD. Makes sense to me really.
>>29850939
It's still close to an ounce of lead per shot.
I've been out of touch with the firearm community since the Tavor hit American markets
What did I miss?
pic unrelated
>>29850905
They made a better Tavor.
>>29850905
Were you a mountain man or something?
Or did you marry a libtard?
Today I noticed my retaining plate on the back of my AR15 was loose, so I sat down and went to tighten it.
While doing so a little fucking spring came flying out of the gun and landed somewhere in my bedroom (It has been two hours on my hands and knees with a flashlight and I can't find it)
After consulting my manual this is called a "Takedown Pin Detent Spring" or something- My question is: Is it important? Will the gun fail without it? Will I be okay just ordering a new one or should I find this one right now?
>>29850604
>not building your own AR
Just buy a new one for like $6 if you can't find it. Your gun is still usable, the rear take-down pin will just want to fall out.
OP here
Update: I found it
How the fuck do I get it back in SAFELY? If I lose this thing again I'm probably going to kms
>>29850604
You can order a new one and yes the spring is rather important. I'd buy several
>Nope, but sometimes I like to imagine what it's like when war DOES come
>The bullets they will fly, enemy soldiers they will die
>I'll be doing whatever plastic does in wartime
>I am in hand, my plastic withstanding full auto's brand
>Staying so cool it's like I'm being fanned in wartime
>While peace is the only thing I have felt
>Put me in war and I will - OPERATE PERFECTLY FINE
>>29850466
I would give my left nut for a G36C
>all the BF2 memories
When went wrong?
inb4 bushmaster
>>29850558
Freedom Group
looking to buy something similar to pic related
Are there any legality issues with this in the US?
I would have a shirt covering my belt. What are some buzzwords I should look for when searching my local laws?
>>29850135
As long as you're not in jew york or the DPRC, you should be good.
Know your state's knife, including tang, length limit.
Know your city's limit.
Know your county's limit.
Know the limit of any city's you might visit.
Never let a cop know you have a knife, they're like fucking raccoons.
Never bring them to the airport, hand rapists are also raccoons.
>>29850194
>Never let a cop know
At what point during a police confrontation do you tell them that you have a weapon?
I guess the logical answer would be when they ask?
>tfw you discover ISIS have better equipment and could easily beat your entire military forces togheter
>tfw a regional militar power
Sure they have equipment, but they don't know how to use it because they're dumb, untrained, undisciplined, disorganized sandniggers.
what country?
>>29850089
>>29850103
>inb4 latin american/small european country.
First gun purchase.
So, I have about 300 to put down for a handgun. I have never owned a gun before and have done little shooting.
I am just looking for something reliable, with cheap ammo.
I also am a bit of a history buff, so any historical significance would be appealing to me.
What should I buy?
ah, /k/ is failing me
>>29849897
nigga it takes more then 4 minutes.
Makarov or a P64 is probably your best bet for sub compact
Yugo or Romanian tokerev if you want full size
>>29849855
Nagant Revolver, the gas seal on the cartridges insures complete reliability and accuracy and the adds a silencer effect, as well as high velocity power to the 7.62 FULL METAL JACKET ammo, it is the best gun my older brother brought one back from syria when he was in the special forces
Saw one at lgs for around 600$, thinking about picking it up for a new meme ccw.
Any good iwb holsters you know of?
That's a heavy meme gun
>>29849848
You can't carry that, won't be no jamal left.
for 45colt cowboy loads. do those replicate black powder loads or are they only for plinking and safety for older guns used in sass comps?
I am looking to buy my first handgun but I am not sure what caliber to get.
I have three primary reasons for wanting this gun. I may be willing to get 2 handguns.
1) hiking/backpacking
>I am currently thinking either a 9mm or 10mm
>possibly a G26 or G29 (i am open to non-Glock alternatives)
>I do not expect to take down a bear
>I would want to conceal it
>I am have an estremely slender build (think Auschwitz-mode)
>either ankle or inside my waist-band
>I fully understand that concealing it increases my draw time
I live in an open carry state, but I would like this gun to be small enough that an Auschwitz survivor could conceal it in summer time, but not so small that my wife decides to buy a strap-on.
2) Hunting/scouting sidearm
>does not need to be light since I will mostly be on an ATV
>does not need to be easily concealable, but compactness would still be a plus
>I have never fired a .45 or .50, do they have a lot of 'kick'?
3)Home defense
I feel that a pistol would be better than a shotgun in a home defense situation
>be me
>wife is at her bull's house
>baby princess daughter is at her bull's house
>I am sleeping soundly since I get the entire king sized bed to myself and am not fighting for sheets.
so_I_became_comfy.jpg
>suddenly window breaks
>a wild nigglet appears
Option 1
>I sleepy wake up
>"sorry Jamal, Annonette is not home right now
>yes, please help yourself to the tv
>here is my wallet
Option 2
>grab 12ga
>12ga is wrestled out of my weak sleepy arms
>I get shot
Option 3
>grab pistol
achievement_unlocked.jpg
>Home protected
tl;dr - what gun should I conceal carry for protection from medium sized animals while backpacking.
You sound beta ass fuck
Enjoy getting your face eaten off by a grizzly
A G26 would fit nicely under your bra
>>29849439
Baseline
1. CCW - S&W 642 or Ruger LCR in .38 SPL revolver
2. Hunting Scouting - S&W or Ruger .357 Magnum revolver (also can shoot .38 SPL)
3. Home Def - Glock 17/19 with light and sound suppressor
>>29849439
>1) hiking/backpacking
G26
>2) Hunting/scouting sidearm
G19
>3)Home defense
G17
I found this gun, came here since I figure you guys can help me identify what it is and maybe it's worth, in it I also found a full mag and they're 25 auto I think if it helps
Yeah, it's a .25 acp or 6.35 Auto as godless europeans call it.
J.P. Sauer & Sohn Model 1913. Don't think it's worth much.
http://www.ai4fr.com/main/page_militaria__collectibles_germany_sauer_1913.html
So I'm taking an economics class and we were going over a 'supply and demand' concept. Basically the way I understand it, the more people want something, the higher the price goes, until more of that thing is made and sold, and then the price falls. It's a strict law of nature that if less people want something the price will go down, and if more people want something the price goes up.
I'm thinking about it, and I'm thinking this could be applied to the new gun market. Everyone bitches that new guns undergo horrible loss in value when you buy them, right? A 3k gun could turn into a 2k gun the second it leaves the dealer's hands. That's a huge amount of money just totally vanished and removed from the economy forever, and it's the reason why it's a better idea to always buy used.
What if everyone collectively decided to not buy new guns for a few months? By law the price of new guns will go down, and eventually it'll get to the point where a new car could be at the price of a used gun, and at that point everyone could just buy the new cars at used prices and avoid the depreciation hit. This way, everyone saves some money and it's not removed from the economy. Any thoughts?
>>29849109
>make gun manufacturers go out of business just so we can trade cars for guns
No.
>>29849109
you're fucking stupid man
>3k gun could turn into a 2k gun the second it leaves the dealer's hands.
made me kek
>>29849109
If your firearm purchase depreciates 33% instantly, you are making bad purchases and Econ-100 won't save you. Ideally, the utility of a firearm and remaining service life should allow it to retain more value than that, Gucci ARs need not apply.
Supply-demand curves fall apart when the market value is at or below the cost of production, which would be about where this scenario would end. No one is working for zero margins and will make widgets if it pays better than ARs.
People in uniform thread
>>29848935
I wear a uniform but it has nothing to do with /k/.... what's this thread really about.
What did you put on your Form 1 /k/?
>will this fly?
Would
>It's klobberin' time
get rejected?
I'm pretty sure they don't even look at that considering someone once wrote "remove kebab" in the box and it got approved.
>>29849092
Didn't that ATF examiner go on /k/ and tell him his form was denied, because of another reason?
Also, if they deny your form, do you just get to fix it or do you have to start all over?
It's there a youtube course to learn about weapons, as to be able to understand what you guys are talking about
>tfw new to the board
>tfw illiterate in terms of weapons
>tfw can't understand the /k/ memes
Free bump. Welcome aboard! Lurking is recommended
>>29848532
Hickok45
>Making a thread whining about being new
What a fucking cretinous bitch
http://www.livescience.com/18588-shoot-gun-space.html
>Fires can't burn in the oxygen-free vacuum of space, but guns can shoot. Modern ammunition contains its own oxidizer, a chemical that will trigger the explosion of gunpowder, and thus the firing of a bullet, wherever you are in the universe. No atmospheric oxygen required.
>The only difference between pulling the trigger on Earth and in space is the shape of the resulting smoke trail. In space, "it would be an expanding sphere of smoke from the tip of the barrel," said Peter Schultz an astronomer at Brown University who researches impact craters.
Is it true /k/? Can cartridges fire in space?
In my thinking I bet the primer would work. But would the powder itself?
Would muzzle velocity be much higher because there's no friction in space?
Would shots be incredibly accurate because of the lack of outside forces like gravity and wind?
We've had this thread hundreds, possibly thousands of times.
Yes, and the Soviets actually did it with autocannons back in the 70s, in case their space station was attacked by American Space Shuttles.
>>29848060
It is true that gun propellants contain their own oxidizer. So yes, guns would fire. I'm sure there are many things we can do to optimize guns in space, but they'd work as-is.
>>29848060
Your gun would heat up and melt very quickly because it cannot dissipate heat in a vacuum.