What is your plan if SHTF /k/? Operating innawoods or innacity? Loadout? Being a lone wolf or with other people?
>>30477248
>If you say anything other than with other people you are wrong and will die.
>If the bug out bag threads are anything to go by no one on /k/ has ever actually gone camping anywhere but a national park and will die if they go innawoods.
I have a small group of friends, all of which are gun owners and have a small food/water stockpile. I own a small cabin and some land and we will head there. We will all die before we get there because we live in a city. If not we will die when we run out of food because I'm the only one who knows how to farm and by farm I mean I know how to grow a dozen plants at a time without any dying.
I will dig in at my self sustained bug in shelter. I will watch through my cctv cameras at you guys kill eachother
>>30477248
I will become the Apex predator
we summon cg edition
old thread >>30469716
/arg/ TS: 104.153.105.2:13140
Posted for TS
>>30472825
isn't he dead?
>>30472825
Just an fyi I don't atchually have an accupoint yet, sorry if i deceived you
The last thread was mothballed
Up the Maples Edition
> What's this thread about?
As usual this thread is for the discussion and pics of tracked and wheeled AFVs of all kinds from MBTs to supertanks to self propelled AA guns. Please keep it civil and cite sources for statistics.
The LAV III is a derivative of the Swiss MOWAG (now a subsidiary of GDELS) Piranha IIIH, yet it deserves examination within the context of its unique and indispensable role within the Canadian Army itself, and its influence in neighbouring America’s Stryker. Canada’s involvement with the LAV III stems from July 1991, when the military had identified an urgent need for replacements for 1960s-70s era AFVs. $2.8 billion was allocated for the Multi-Role Combat Vehicle (MRCV) by the Conservatives, with the express goal of creating a common family to replace the Grizzly, Bison, Lynx and M113 variants in service. Due to budgetary constraints, however, it was cancelled by March 1992. With the return of the Liberals in 1994, however, a new Light Armoured Vehicle programme was undertaken, spurred by both Army requests and concerning reports of underwhelming Canadian AFV performance during UNPROFOR in the Yugoslav Wars. On August 16, 1995, General Motors Diesel Division was awarded the contract to produce the new LAV III, a combination of the Coyote’s turret and weaponry, along with the latest developments in the Piranha family. The vehicle itself carries seven passengers and three crew, propelled by a Detroit Diesel six cylinder diesel engine and its main armament consisted of a TIS enabled Bushmaster 25 mm and a 7.62 mm coaxial. In operation, there are typically two “air sentries”, standing on the benches to look out the back deck for security. There are currently 651 in Canadian service, a substantial portion of which have improved IED protection.
> Gun
Rifled 25 mm M242
> Dimensions (l w h)
6.98 x 2.71 x 2.81 m
> Weight
16.958 tonnes
> Engine
350hp diesel
> Speed
100 km/h
>>30472767
OP: As always, feedback, suggestions wanted and appreciated.
Happy Canada Day! I must confess I was mulling the idea of Independence Day, but since the actual date of Canada Day was closer, and I was pretty interested in the LAV, I chose Canada.
The protection of the LAV III amounts to a Level III equivalency along STANAG 4569 guidelines, with all round protection from 7.62x51 mm NATO rounds. The protection of the LAV III has been significantly improved over the years, with the early introduction of the ceramic Modular Expandable Armour System (MEXAS) officially bequeathing next level protection up to 14.5x114 mm rounds from 500 m. Furthermore, in 2008, the Canadians undertook a comprehensive series of programmes aimed at packages for protection against 30 mm AP, EFPs and particularly IEDs emerging, with the IED upgrades becoming a staple of continued operations in Afghanistan. These upgrades cumulatively were $68 million with the IED package alone being an additional $13.5 million. Nevertheless, for a military that had sustained the vast majority of its casualties in actions involving the LAV III, these upgrades were a necessary investment. In 2011, with IEDs still being a pressing threat, General Dynamics was awarded a contract to upgrade 550 LAV IIIs with further mine protection along with an extension of the vehicle’s lifespan to 2035. The LAV III has performed admirably in most respects in Canadian service, with issues such as feared rollovers being negligible – only sixteen, operating in very rough terrain were ever reported – and the lack of protection in Afghanistan being addressed with ad hoc solutions or later modular addons, and tools such as the Nanuk RWS. However, unlike the Leopard 2A6M’s outstanding protection in Afghanistan, the LAV III is still a much lighter vehicle, with the limitations that entails against the pernicious threat of IEDs and explosive weaponry.
>>30472776
More tank news, as per the new format.
If you have more queries regarding a news story, just point it out, and I’ll further elaborate and provide links.
Following on from news of the USMC’s trialing of Israeli Trophy APS, the US Army is now looking to foreign systems for solutions to emerging missile threats to AFVs. Four separate systems, two of which are Israeli in origin and one domestic will be trialed on the Stryker, Abrams and Bradley, projected to be deployed on European units once integration is complete. This is expected to be an interim solutions, as MAPS (Modular Active Protection System) the Army’s own effort is still in development.
South Korea’s DAPA is now examining methods of improving the efficiency of its 155 mm howitzers. At the Defence IQ Future Artillery conference in London, Lt Col Chung Win Jee spoke of the potential in automation of artillery systems to prevent manpower losses in any North Korean counterbattery or preliminary targeting effort, and reducing the garrison requirements on the border.
NORINCO is now exporting a new 120 mm mortar WMZ-551. The system is not an exceptional deviation from existing designs, but does offer full amphibious capabilities, and a recoil system mitigating the need for stabilisers.
The Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) has received its final prototype of the 29 tonne next generation AFV to replace the state’s M113A2 Ultra APC fleet. The currently unnamed vehicle is currently under development by the Defence Science and Technology Agency in partnership with Singapore Technologies, the project dating back to 2006, and it is expected that it will be complete by 2019.
The UK Ajax has now completed its first air portability trials at the Joint Air Delivery Test and Evaluation Unit at RAF Brize Norton. The Ares platform was driven onto a real size mockup of the standard air transporters in British service, and tie down drills were practised onboard.
And that’s all for now.
>>30472795
Also, in case you thought I'd forgot about a tank commander writeup:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10643755
I may have missed some, writing off the top of my head, be sure to suggest who you have in mind.
Ahhhhh SHHHHHEEEEEEEEIIIITT
lETS MAKE CALIFORNIA MEXICO AGAIN AND LETS START WITH GUN LAWS.
>>30471069
>no criminal history
>veteran
>public servant 6+ years
>oath taker
Thanks to governor Moonbeam, I will now be a criminal on Jan 1, 2017 if I do not turn in or destroy my standard capacity magazines.
>>30471115
Why the fuck do you live in Soviet Kalifornistan, then? None of these developments has come as a surprise to anyone who's been paying attention to politics in the DPRK.
Get out of KKKalifornia before they build a Berlin Wall at the border to keep taxpayers from leaving.
>>30471069
>libcucks say that they don't want to take our guns and our rights to defend ourselves...
>give amnesty laws to criminals
>take away our rights to defend ourselves
>pass intrusive gun laws
I never said this before and can't believe I am in the position to say this but we need to vote for Trump
Post yer milsurp, faggots.
Post your collection and rate others.
>>30469444
Where can I get FABARM shotguns?
going to need proofs on that m16a1.
>>30469444
7/10
Need more hand guns jelly of that colt
With the recent bills passed in California, bullet button guns are now assault weapons. What is the downside of registering as an assault weapon, allowing you to get a normal mag release? Is there any real possibility of a mandatory seisure of registered guns? I doubt that that could ever happen. What do you think?
>>30468345
Considering that they passed SB 1446, and retro-actively banned previously grandfathered 10+ round magazines, I think it's safe to say that they have plans to do this for "assault weapons" too, in the future.
>>30468345
>What is the downside of registering an "assault weapon"
Are you really asking this?
The government has no legitimate reason to have a database on who owns what. Keep your fucking shit and leave the shithole state already.
>>30468345
You don't get a normal mag release if you register. You just get to keep your bullet button.
In the light of the Mirage 2000 thread from yesterday and the regular bashing of the Rafale here, how good generally are Dassault planes including those less discuted and more ancient (Mirage IV, Mirage F1, Super Etendard) ? I'm quite frustrated desu because as a Frenchman all our media portrays Marcel Dassault as a genius and Dassault planes either as very good platform or straight-up revolutionary concepts that crush all opponents. Any unbiased and substanciated info would be appreciated.
There is no doubt that Dassault makes good planes. Israel was very successful using it's Mirage III against various Soviet planes. The Jews even liked the Mirage so much they copied it and made the Kfir. Switzerland tested the Gripen, the Eurofighter and the Rafale. The Rafale won the competition (before the Eurofighter and Gripen) but did not get chosen because it was too expensive. Iraqi Mirage F-1 shot down Iranian F-4, F-5, and even F-14.
The main problem is probably the price. The Rafale is an excellent plane, but it's terribly expensive compared to other excellent planes.
>>30468389
Isn't that due to the fact that those competing planes are mostly either American (therefore benefit from the scale production) or Saab stuff (so cheaper) ?
Also do you have any specific knowledge about the Mirage IV and Super Etendard ? Literally any info you can find about them is "they do the job they're supposed do more or less well", which sounds like some military PR bullshit for "they kinda suck but they still work desu".
>>30468273
Say what you will about the French but they know how to make their own stuff and make it look beautiful
1911 thread. Post your 1911s. Polymerfags need not reply
>>30464421
Colt 1911 are so sexy.
>>30464430
Nice piece
I miss my 1911, traded this RIA for a 1942 Springfield 1903a3. Worth it.
Old one hit bump limit.
>>30437318
Patch stores:
http://pastebin.com/cXZTGafD
Hype for hotel Moscow. Need to wait for paycheck tho :(
BAN ASSAULT VELCRO
>>30459693
WHERES HIS FUCKING REDBUBBLE
>It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon.
>The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD.
>UPDATE: Many people have objected to my use of the term "PTSD" in the above story. The use of this term was in no way meant to conflate my very temporary anxiety with the very real condition experienced by many of our brave men and women in uniform.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/firing-ar-15-horrifying-dangerous-loud-article-1.2673201
But wait, it gets better:
>To gun lovers, you can't even have an opinion on assault rifles — unless it's theirs. Here's the proof
>the majority of email senders trained their laser sights on my masculinity — often in graphic terms that would sound more appropriate in a magazine about erectile dysfunction or an ad for Depends.
>I wear it as a point of personal pride that conservative darling Erick Erickson posted a story on The Resurgent with the headline, "My 10 Year Old Daughter Is Tougher Than Gersh Kuntzman, Author of the Stupidest Thing on the Internet Today."
>Yes, this weapon scared the crap out of me. And it should scare the crap out of all of you, too. An AR-15 is a weapon of mass destruction, a tool that should only be in the hands of our soldiers and cops...I don't think there's anything unmanly about pointing out this fact.
>Besides, if masculinity is defined by the power to commit violence on a wide scale, I proudly choose femininity.
>If that makes me a girl, well, maybe we should have a girl running the country.
My favorite bit is this:
>But what if a weapons manufacturer could fashion a handgun that would fire a nuclear blast — an atomic version of an AR-15, if you will.
>>30458935
>But what if a weapons manufacturer could fashion a handgun that would fire a nuclear blast — an atomic version of an AR-15, if you will.
>>30458935
This article is over 2 weeks old. Do you think we haven't discussed this to death and talked about what an idiot he is yet?
>>30458969
its a follow up
I'm curious /k/ how good would this arm our be in and out of combat?
Also if it helps it's meant for deserts.
I meant armor not arm our
Fucking auto correct
Also riot suppression
>>30452199
built in night vision and targeting system is cool or do you need a pip boy for vats?
Anon has some repressed issues edition
Old Thread:>>30492946
AND IM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN WHERE AT LEAST I KNOW IM FREE
AND I WONT FORGET THE MEN WHO DIED THAT GAVE THAT RIGHT TO ME
First dubs decides on if I get my stock or upper first, but can be overruled by trips
>mortars going off right above my house
God fucking damnit my dogs hate that shit
old thread
>>30490290
if you want a cheap AR kit go on MidwayUSA, since this question gets asked 40 times per thread
>>30492946
also, unban me from the teamspeak channel
What is the best clip I can get for my M4?
Best pupper in
hunting edition. pic is from a trip with MSD, his a1 is pretty accurate!
old thread >>30486933
>>30490290
hey look its milsurpdude when he was in shape
>>30490290
In the neck? I always try for quartering away and placing a shot through the heart, lungs, and shoulder blade. Sure, some shoulder meat is ruined, but I've never had to track a deer since I started that. I'd rather lose some meat than not be able to track a deer, even with dogs. That happened to me once and I still regret being a shit shot that couldn't put a game animal down.
>>30490290
bad news 4 u t4
the aero lower is the new logo one. i tried tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯