here's a thing I did, background is a photo I messed with, how do you guy's feel about this?
>>2589290
POST IN BEGGINERrrEREREREZREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Post terrible work by otherwise competent artists to boost your confidence and realize that even pros make bad art at times. Pic related by Nathan Fowkes
What are you fucking gay?
>>2584634
Nathan pls
>>2584633
That's how most of his color keys look like. How exactly is it bad? It reads very well from the thumbnail, thus it does its intended job perfectly fine.
How many of you have a patreon? When is it a good time to start one? How to avoid sitting on 50$ for an eternity? Is 800$ a month doable? I have no delusions of hitting 10k a month like some famous artists, but I'd be happy with 1k.
Worried I might just not be popular eonugh though.
>>2582919
>Is 800$ a month doable?
HAACK WEEEZ HAAACK COUGH AH COUGH
In America, hell no.
If you dont have a fanbase, you don't have any whales to give you gold.
>>2582934
I think he's asking if some average nobody artist can get to $800 in patreon funds, rather than if someone can live off of $800.
Why is kitsch bad??? Someone please explain!
>>2584315
kitsch is at its heart a matter of taste, and taste is a class identifier. When someone says that is kitsch, they are saying that is a non-educated, working class piece of art. Therefore it must be ridiculed because the poor do not have good taste because they're dirty etc.
it's bogus essentially. It's a way for the educated to distinguish themselves form the uneducated.
>>2584315
Pic related is not a style that is generally considered kitsch. Kitschy artworks are in general more sentimental and easily digested, not dark gothic edgy stuff
>>2584315
kitsch is when someone likes something because it
seems to look like something classy, fancy or important but it's really not. It's about stupid artists thinking they know a thing or two about art because they can copy or mimic whatever thing that is "in" at the time.
Kitsch is for hacks because it breeds more hacks, Greatest example is weeb and vidja artists. They flock to whatever "in" thing and build a patreon/tumblr business until the next "in" thing comes along. They're like vultures thinking they're peacocks.
Nothing is real skill or talent with them. They'll use whatever trick, cheat, or theft they can get away with. They'll ruin anyone that calls them on it.
Hey /ic/ I make bottle cap art. What do you think of these and what should I do next?
I made a crab
This was my first one
>>2579778
I love it!
Just a draft guys I know the art work isn't Picasso standards, however, criticism is welcomed nonetheless.
So I finished with Betty Edwards's drawing on the right side of the brain, Loomis' fun with a pencil and Bert Dodson's keys to drawing and my drawing has improved tremendously, where do I go from here? What's next?
What order should I read the following books/courses?
Charles Bargue (I started this but it didn't seem like a beginner course at all, it seemed very exacting)
Juliette Aristedes
Harold Speed,
Glenn Vilppu
Famous Artists Course
William Pogany
Loomis - Figure Drawing for all it’s worth
Preston Blair - Animation
George Bridgman
Loomis Successful drawing
Stephen Rogers Peck
Loomis - Drawing the head and hands
Jack Hamm
Loomis Creative illustration
Burne Hogarth,
Loomis Eye of the Painter
John Buscema - Drawing Comics The Marvel Way
Kimon Nicolaides
My goals are pencilling realistically, drawing cartoonily, drawing in a comic book style, and everything inbetween.
>>2583098
Start with Bridgman, Loomis, Hogarth and Vilppu. Read the rest as you see fit.
>>2583098
dont read any books. I never read a book and I turnt out fine.
Art is for jawks, not nerds
>>2583105
Sir, I find that unlikely. Also, these books are not for reading, they're for guiding your drawing exercises- it's like 10% reading 90% drawing.
What do you think of Taguchi Masayuki? Does he traces stuffs or something? The anatomy and faces of most of the characters are clearly heavily stylized and original, and then we get other that have very realistic features, which just look so different they feels just copied, it's weird.
>>2587589
and then compare with
>>2587589
there's a load of creepily realistic stuff that it does raise an eyebrow, iirc the tiger/lion arc had some, lemme find the pic
>>2587589
he just like to do ref from time to time while style stuff being the main dish
and so what?
Bitch thread vol. 3
Got to vent about being an artist or about artistic communities? Get it off your chest here.
Keep it art related, or related to the hobby/lifestyle/career/education of art.
I lay down on my couch with portraits I have drawn and masturbate pretending shes my gf and that shes jerking me off
>>2577690
>now we can post portraits in the porn thread
kek
>>2577703
U callin my imaginary gf a whore? Fight me irl bitch nigga I'll wreck u
Do I really have to memorize all this shit ? Yeah, I get it, i can see it being useful when you want to duplicate tiles, but remembering a specific method for everything ?
I don't think a lot of artists or illustrator really uses all of that
No, you just have to be able to draw in a way that the viewers believes it. Usually your gut feeling will be faster than whatever this is.
>>2588854
There's nothing to memorize there, you mirror points alongside some axis and draw a box to help you with keeping the measurement right.
You could have skipped it altogether and just grab line and triangle and mark few points from the curve on the other side of line of symmetry and pass the line through those points.
There's no technique to that, it's basic shit.
Learn the logic, not the example.
You don't even have to remember if your eyes and arm remember it for you.
I need some feedback, this is my latest project. Its a painting of an herbal laxative, and represents the relationship between artists and the art market itself. Any thoughts?
i
just fuck my shit up fampai
Artist's Shit has already been done.
i'm working on it... do you say that i have future in this?
>>2588674
What... the fuck am I seeing. Is his thigh a penis?
Greetings, /ic/.
I really need your help, i wanna learn how to draw, but my talent is 0, even lower than 0, to a point i cant even understand the basic books such as loomis, the sticky's book and related stuff.
Might sound a bit lame but, lets pretend youre trying to teach an elementary school level kid to draw, (in this case its my level), how do i start so i improve efficiently?
>>2588626
if you post a picture of your social security card i'll tutor you
Look at art, develop some kind of appreciation and understanding of art, then start by copying some of your favorites. And just draw a lot of things you enjoy drawing, you like drawing animu? draw animu. You like drawing mechs? draw mechs.
>>2588626
it depends on what you want to start doing right off the bat. do you want to draw characters? you can practice loomis if you want, but imo his books are dated and not very intuitive. vilppu, hampton and hogarth are great more modern alternatives with material to practice from. learn basic shapes, construction and contours and just draw a lot.
do you want to paint scenery? learn how to thumbnail and how to break up an image into fg/mg/bg in grayscale, then move on to color theory and start creating colored thumbnails. when your thumbnails look good, move on to bigger paintings.
the basic principle is to do the things you think you can't and fake it til you get it right. the sticky can tell you all of this, it's right there at the top of the gd board i dunno how you missed it but go read it.
Hey /ic/
Any Recommendations on good art tools for drawing? im just looking to improve on drawing in general. Normal pencils ( wooden ) are good but the edge wears down after a while. Thanks for any recommendations that come through.
Also, any tips on drawing in general is welcomed.
>>2588206
Read the sticky and lurk moar you skidmark
Www.artprimo.com
How do you support yourself while dedicating most of your time to painting/drawing?
>>2584379
selling drugs, killing people and taking their wallets
it pays well, and it's not that challenging
>>2584379
I don't
>>2584379
I'm a government man.
