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So recently I saw this video about saving this abandoned dog's life and it really touched my heart...

Anyone got some good videos of animals being saved or any channels I should look for?

This is the video I watched:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xb2FpVMwc
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I sub to Hope For Paws. The music and comments are usually syrupy and gross but the dogs are sweet and the rescuer is a good dude.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=B366lt4N7z0
This broke my heart
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>>2053163
>when you try your best but you don't succeed
>Fuck
>They show how bad the dog is
>FUCK

I can't watch that man, I would die

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http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20160201-this-is-where-green-policies-are-profitable

>Bees vs. Wasps

GET FUCKED WASPS
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Bee here, wasps are totally lame!

HA! Take that you wasps!
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>>2052794
Great story.

>unexpected effect: they pollinated wildflowers
>unexpected
Kek.
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Hornworm here, hehe yeah fuck wasps!!

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Hey /an/, I need some help

I got myself a young Paradoxa praying mantis a week back and I have trouble getting it to eat. It came with a bunch of fat lazy, flightless fruitflies so I let it finish those before I ordered new ones. My local pet store had some issues with their shipment of fruitflies and I wont be getting them until friday (should have gotten them on monday)

I've caught some harmless critters in my garden but now the problem is that it's terrified of everything. It doesn't even attempt to hunt it, only attacking it to defend itself and then bail. I've tried all kinds of things like tiny harmless spiders, ladybugs, tiny beetles but nothing. I've tried leaving them in his cage overnight, feeding it to him with tweezers, feeding him with a needle because the tweezers terrify him as well, but nothing.

I'm guessing it's just used to fat fruitlies walking into his mouth but might there be another reason why it's not eating? I don't think it's sick because it's pretty energized. It could be preparing for a mold but I'm not sure about that. It hasn't eaten since saturday night so I kinda want to make sure there's nothing wrong with him. Is it normal they dont want to eat for a while sometimes? His tail is not that round anymore so he should be pretty hungry.

tl;dr my mantis is a pussy who is terrified of his prey and doesn't know how to hunt.
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anyone?
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>>2052666
Might be about to molt
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no idea

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Is leopard gecko breeding very profitable? I've recently been researching the subject and thinking about getting a breeding pair. Pros and cons? Also general leopard gecko discussion.
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>>2052460
yeah you'll make so much money bro
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>>2052464
I'm not expecting to make anything close to an income. I'm just looking at it as a hobby that could pay for itself.
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>>2052468
in the US a hobby that pays for itself is called a business. The government will tax it.

But no, I doubt breeding geckos will pay for itself, especially when you count the cost of the real estate and utilities used to do it. It might make a handy little tax write-off, except that when a business loses money the IRS likes to suddenly call it a hobby.

Hi, /an/!
I'm curious about this plant, How's it called? Where Can I Find It? I you have some datails about this plant, please, comment it
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>>2052452
>Aglaonema, or Chinese evergreen
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>>2052453
She killed it by planting it outside where it could die in winter, right?

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Didn't see anything in the catalog about GPS Collars.

Does /an/ use them and if yes what are some features/other related info that I should know before purchasing one?

Dog has already been chipped with an id tag but that only helps if someone else with a reader has it.
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I know this board is slow but I'd figure I'd have at least one response by now.
No one has a thought about this technology?
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Necro bump
If no interest after this I'll let it die
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my dog doesn't run away so i have no need for one.

There's a 4 week old puppy at the shelter and I was thinking of adopting him after they adopt him out at 8 weeks.
It's a gsd.
However I read it's at that period (4-8 weeks)that puppies learn not to bite too hard and stuff, so I got a bit worried.
Will the dog be a shit if it's separated from mom and siblings at 4 weeks of age
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Is the puppy eating puppy food yet?
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>>2051460
Yes
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What is the rescue doing to ensure he's properly socialized? I know reputable breeders try and transplant orphans into another breeder's litter, and they always use socialization plans such as: http://www.echowyn.com/Ruleof7.html

Even in a rescue situation I would be wary of a foster who cuts corners on socialization.

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What is a good sized tank for my betta fish?
inb4 tourture chamber pic related
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>>2057898
5gal
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5gal minimum.
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>>2057898
What's wrong with that bowl? Bettas live in puddles in the wild.

I'm planning on (partially) hand-raising a female mouse (or a pair). I'd either get them right after they're weaned (3-4 weeks old) or risk and get them a week earlier and hand feed them for the last week (can only afford a week of full-time dedication). Can I expect a bond that hand-raised-from-day-one mice seem to make with what I have in mind?
I'd normally get rats but landlord isn't keen on them plus this seems like a cool project.

What do you think, /an/? Any experiences?
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Look for fancy breeders, those who show their mice (yes, that is a thing). Like other show animals, these mice are bred in part for temperament. The babies are held daily from an early age.
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>>2057776

that is one handsome patrician mouse
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Is your landlord smart enough to know the difference between a rat and mouse?

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Do animals have emotions? To what extent?
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>>2057163
> like moths to a flame
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>>2057163
Depends on the animal. I would venture to say most really only understand instinctual fear and the ability to nurture their young with "love", but domestic animals that have been specifically bred over thousands of years to have emotions and love us are an exception. Obviously, not knowing English is a problem, so it's not like they're thinking "Oh, God, I love Gerald so much, he's such a kind owner." so they're about as emotional as they can be while missing a few brain layers and not really having a language.
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Beautiful animals you absoloutly love but everyone else finds disgusting.

Pic related
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>>2057155
Hammerhead flatworms, because why not.
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>>2057171
Thats pretty cute.
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>>2057155

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Does /an/ watch the puppy bowl?
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>>2057092
Is this animal abuse?
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>American television
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>>2057095
>not inviting qts to your Super Bowl party and warming them up with Puppy Bowl pregame action.

It's like you don't even want to have sex.

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Beginner here, just got some finches today, kind of on a whim. I think they're spice and white-headed nun finches. Is this cage adequate for them to be happy? There's 10 of them in there. I attached fake branches at the top because I thought they'd like the shelter.

Any tips on caring for them are welcome. Atm I give them mixed bird seed, will they like live mealworms?
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Don't know why the photo is rotated like that, it was taken upright on my phone, please bear with me
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>>2056354

iphone?
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>>2056358
Samsung

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Is there a reason why insects are not treated on the same level as cats,dogs, turtles, tortoises, etc? yes they don't have nociceptors (pain-receptors), and it has not yet been definitely proved what level of consciousness they experience, but say I created a cat with the same exterior appearance as any cat you'd see on the internet, except it had the biology of an insect. Humor me, this is probably impossible, but I think the thought experiment will bring the question I'm asking to a more lucid conceptual level.

Now compared to a regular cat, this insect-cat would seem not to have the same level of ethical respect in our current culture. But I think most /an/ users would still not feel comfortable in ridding the insect-cat like they would an insect that disgusts them, annoys them, etc. And I'm wondering why this would be so, shouldn't insects be treated with the same ethical respect as most animals we reverence in our culture?

I want to know the distinguishing line, why some organisms are held to higher value than others. I'm not proclaiming either side, I'm just interested in the philosophical aspect really.
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>they don't have nociceptors
I'm not really up to date on this meme as I tend to ignore the shit fests around here, but insects clearly react to negative stimuli to avoid damage to their body just like most other animals. I read an article how grasshoppers would learn and or become conditioned to avoid a hot panel or something. Inb4 sauce, fuck you.

I think a lot of it has to do with society. Not long ago before animals were actually classified, people considered all insects a "bug" and all bugs are evil pests that need to be destroyed. Believe it or not there are still people who think like this today. It's the same reason so many people are scared of spiders and snakes. Oh and a lot of people cannot stand anything that they can't see humanoid features in, a lot of arthropod's don't have a face that looks anything like a person.

Then you have the people who only like cats and dogs, anthropomorphize the shit out of them and claims they're an "animal lover".

Insects do seem pretty fucking stupid though and run on more instincts than the other animals you mention. You can train reptiles and get them to at least tolerate you but most insects are like robots.
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One reason is because there are so many insects. There are billions or trillions of some species. If you kill an anthill, you do not really affect the ant population. If you go out and kill the same number of individuals in most vertebrae, you have decimated the population.

An exception to that could be rats. There are so many all over the world that if you killed 100K of them their population would still be fine. Look at how we view rats for the most part: as vermin. People kill them all the time with little to no thought.

Most of the time when people kill bugs with abandon, it is because it is a pest bug or they are swarming. People don't go around killing praying mantis like they do ants or mosquitoes. One, because they are good bugs, and two, because they don't typically show up in great numbers.

Any time there is a high number of a type of something around, people care less about killing them. That goes for vertebrae as well as bugs. If there are stray cats around everywhere and you hit one with your car, you don't care as much as you would in an area with no stray cat populations. If there are 100 caterpillars on the sidewalk you are less careful about stepping on them as you are if there is only 1.
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>>2055473
>Inb4 sauce, fuck you.
I don't really like talking to a person like this right now.

But I will address the first point you raised with a quote from entomologist on his blog.

> It was found that a single class of neuron (class IV multidendritic neuron) is sufficient and necessary to cause this nociception behavior. Dr. R. Y. Hwang postulates this behavior evolved to avoid a parasitoid wasp, and the larvae are innately encoded with the directionality in which they roll. So they are not thinking, “Ouch this hurts. I’m rolling out of the way.” They are genetically preprogrammed with this behavior, and given a certain physical stimulus they roll out of the way. Fruit flies are the best-studied insects and are considered a model organism, so it goes to reason if they experience nociception other insects may also. Some activists tout these two studies as proof insects feel pain. I do not. It has always made sense to me that an insect should be able to feel something akin to pain; because it would help them learn to avoid things that could kill them through the unpleasant nature of the experience.

But nociception is not pain. The current definition of pain requires an emotional response. Humans can feel pain without any physical stimulus and are capable of emotions associated with pain; like suffering and terror. Are insects capable of conscious or unconscious experience of emotion? Is consciousness required for emotions? This is where it gets controversial; because how do you quantify if an insect is experiencing an emotion or if insects are conscious? I usually tell people that insects are hardwired with predetermined behavioral responses to external stimuli, but this is a simplification.

http://relaximanentomologist.tumblr.com/post/51301520453/do-insects-feel-pain

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post a more aesthetic doggo
protip: you can't
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>>2055341
ASSDEADDICKS
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Majestic Poodle.
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>>2055341
I swear I thought that thing was a sheep at first

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