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What do you do in a situation with a lone gun man murdering people in a given area?
I often wonder about these situations because how can you defend yourself if unarmed?
Like those people in Orlando out numbered the gun man severely. Why wait around to die instead of attempting to attack him?
My friend told me situations are a lot different when being shot at and fear can paralyze you.
But still, a gun man can only shoot effectively in one direction and can't watch behind him while shooting right?
Anyway, what to do in a situation like this? I really hate the idea of just waiting around to die. Why is it so hard to defend against active shooters?
Arm yourself and engage when given an opportunity. If no opportunity, run away. Don't be in a gun-free zone.
either
>run away
or
>shoot him in the face
>>30283608
Get on the ground and hope that you're not shot at.
Don't ever think about charging the shooter, you'll get demolished.
These people in Orlando were fairies, but more than that they were in a total state of panic. The room was dark, they probably didn't see shit and it must've been hard to locate the shooter from the sound, because a nightclub is nothing but music and people talking.
The guy had been preparing that shooting for close to three years, there is no way in hell you or anyone else would have been able to stop him.
Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson on Tuesday said that gun control is now a critical element of protecting the U.S. homeland and keeping Americans safe.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/orlando-nightclub-shooting-jeh-johnson-gun-control-is-now-a-matter-of-homeland-security/
Some Anti (fa) UN faggot says this:
'U.N. Human Rights Chief Says U.S. Needs 'Robust Gun Regulation'
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/un-human-rights-chief-urges-robust-us-gun-control-measures-after
I'm gonna throw in some fear bait for the fucks of it
Investor cash levels are 'consistent with recession': BofA
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/14/investor-cash-levels-are-consistent-with-recession-bofa.html
So not to get anyone here amped up or anything, (but you should) the conditions for a societal event are in place like that which happened so many times before it in other nations around the world. This particular thing hasn't happened on US soil in quite some time. People are flooding the border, Government is helping them come in illegally from all sides, Companies are folding or fleeing to other countries. Govt wants to take your raifu away.
By the end of this year your hands will shake like Tom Hanks hands in Saving Private Ryan.
I'm skeered, but not as skeered as I was after the 'Hook. Obama knows he can't get anything passed in his lame duck phase and said as much a few weeks back. I do worry he may try to force a supreme court appointment in exchange for not pushing new gun legislation.
To keep it weapons-related, today is range day. After work I'm taking the wife and the best friend to shoot my PTR and AK, and his 22 magnum. Pew pew pew.
>gun control is now a critical element of protecting the U.S. homeland and keeping Americans safe.
Literally what. There's not even room for interpretation of that part of the 2nd.
"BEING NECESSARY TO THE SECURITY OF A FREE STATE..."
You know, unless he's saying that gun control is a critical element of making sure the US doesn't remain a free state...
Proud citizen of Francistan, state of Eurabia here.
I'd like to purchase a (or more in the future) gun, in case a Civil War broke out, what would be your recommendation ? I'd like something pretty precise (with a scope if possible), in semi auto and pretty reliable for my first purchase. I was thinking of a Mosin, a Kar 98 or a SVT-40, as they're pretty cheap and prooven themselves good.
Also, is a handgun really necessery ? If so, is a Glock 19 the best choice?
Thanks /k/omrads.
>>30283456
>semi auto
>Mosin
>Kar 98
t'est attardé ou quoi?
>>30283456
get what you can afford but I do advise you to get a SVT and make /k/ hella jelly.
Also hand guns are fun too. A simple 12 gauge pump action will suffice for home defense if you're worried about couscous breaking down your door.
La victoire est a nous.
Well i think its funny that people say Full Auto is more Dangerous. Look, while its easy to drain your mag in a few secs with a Full-Auto, you can Be more precise with a Semi-Auto or even a Semi only. Also, why didnt anyone attack that guy in Orlando when he was reloading? o.O
>>30283444
Because they were too busy being gay.
>>30283444
>why didnt anyone attack that guy in Orlando when he was reloading?
This is what people who want to ban all but 10rd mags believe. Anyone with some practice can reload before someone can get close enough. Being a nightclub in dim light situations, confused and disoriented victims simply didn't know what was going on.
>>30283444
Real life isn't like COD, anon.
Newfag here.
The whole Orlando thing got me puzzled.
Is the AR-15 an assault weapon, an assault rifle, neither or both?
Civilian ARs are not assault rifles. Assault weapon is a political term with no concrete definition, sometimes including pistols and lever actions.
>>30283185
>assault weapon
No such thing
>assault rifle
Civilian ARs are not assault rifles
>>30283197
so an assault weapon is anything a politician wants it to be?
and when is something an assault rifle and why isn't the AR one?
Bang bang!
Got you /k/!
>>30283158
nahaah, you missed
>>30283158
Nuhuh. i'm wearing armor!
>>30283158
No! I had my shield up! And bullets can't penetrate it
Obama knows what he's saying is bullshit, but says it anyway because he's a POLITICIAN and NEEDS TO SERVE HIS CONSTITUENTS.
dubious term
>assault rifle
countered with
>Glock has a lot of clips in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDLQOaGwiao
>>30283006
No, assault rifle is a category of firearms and has been since the Germans invented it.
>>30283021
I agree the AR-15 is an assault rifle whether or not it's been modified to remove the select fire, but /k/ doesn't think a semi auto AR-15 constitutes an assault rifle like that used in the recent massacre, and either does Obama
He's the best gun salesman in history.
With all the mass-shootings going on nowadays, and the nigger prez jumping up from his bed at 2am to command that we ban guns in a country with a historical right to have guns every time a human kills another human (something that is bound to happen), what response should a non-gun-owning person have? I have never held a firearm, but I feel like if I want to be able to adequately defend my family, I need to buy a military gun before that is no longer possible. How should I do that and is that the right train of thought?
>>30282801
Look online for reviews on local gunshops. Hell if you say what area youre from on here there may be someone who can recommend one from your area. Once you find one, simply go and tell them you are a complete novice and know nothing but are afraid that you may not be able to acquire guns in the future due to legislation and have been putting off exercising your right for too long and want to get started. Tell them what kind of gun youre interested in such as an ar15, handgun, etc. and inquire about basic gun safety courses. Take courses. Rent some guns at ranges and figure out what you like if you dont have friends with guns. Dont be an aspy. Be respectful. Never joke about anything off color as far as the purpose of wanting a firearm because you dont want to give off the "hes gonna shoot up a school" vibe. Just be honest, humble, and willing to learn and theyll help ya out buddy. When youre READY about making a purchase, do it online. I recommend slickguns.com which is basically a search engine, and ammoseek.com for ammo which is again, a search engine. When you buy a gun from an online store they usually have a drop down tab of local gunshops in your area they ship to. Select the one you want, order it, and when it comes in at the gun store theyll give ya a call that its ready to come pick it up. I say order online because gun shops heavily upcharge plus you wont have to pay taxes on it. When you pick up your new gun theyll have you fill out a 4473 form, do a background check, and probably take payment for a transfer fee (typically 20 to 50 dollars). Hope this helps.
>>30282801
this is not the right train of thought
you, like every other gut toting american, are ignorant of the outside world. You think that you have more freedom than every other country, yet statistically, no credible source puts America as the freest nation. In fact, America doesn't comes 16th for economic freedom and 30th for personal freedom.
>http://www.freetheworld.com/humanFreedom.php
so please cry more, Amerifag; maybe you can use your freedom shooter to end your life
>>30282892
Explain why you are being antagonistic. I genuinely want to know why you are shitting on Americans and telling me to commit suicide.
So, This thing has an aircraft jet engine and advance electronics and complicated firing systems.
It might as well be hand forged by Master Smiths in the Dwarven mines of Moria and use Mithril and Adamantium to make up its components.
Did we not learn from the germans in WW2? Tiger tank took 2,000 man hours to construct compared to the Sherman or the T34 which took considerably less time.
>>30282790
>aircraft jet engine
You mean turbine engine?
>>30282790
Difference being that with the sensors and gun-laying it has, it can do first-round hits, it can inmediately switch to a new target after having shot one, and with that it can do a 1v10 against inferior tanks and win.
Also, Tiger was just not a very good design.
>>30282790
>Sherman
>peak production in 1942 2,000 per month from eleven factories
>during total war
>M1A1 Abrams
>peak production in 1986 at Lima Army Tank Plant 120 per month from one factory
>during the doldrums of fuck Commies peacetime
>implying if we didn't go full fuck everything total war that wouldn't be 2,000 per month from eleven factories
Is anyone else at least a little bit disturbed about the amount of "volunteer your personal info" type threads posted on /k/ nowadays?
For example:
>>30274810
There were a few others within the last 24 hours, more than usual at least.
In this day and age and considering what happened I don't think it's a good idea to let people know you own guns or associate with people who do. It's disturbing how people on /k/ proudly throw caution to the wind and go to meetups like nuggetfest where they are photographed doing "problematic" activities or even acting non-politically correctly which like it or not is a huge black mark nowadays thanks to the perpetual outrage culture spawned by social media. I'm aware of the censoring faces policy, but there's always at least one faggot who forgets or a troll who deliberately doesn't. Remember, all it will take is another mass shooting for some anonymoose wannabe hacktivist to get those pictures and harass you with the full support/complacency of the leftist political machine.
>>30282640
This one was also a thinly veiled attempt to get people to sign up for some shitty website.
>>30282308
No.
If you don't want people to know about you, don't post in them.
>>30282640
worried about the Gestapo attacking you between now and the militia mobilization?
The ar-15 is copping a lot of heat lately but is it actually any deadlier than a 90 year old tommy gun in a mass shooting situation or are lefties just retarded?
>lefties just retarded
I think we've already established this
>>30282564
>>30282576
Whilst a lot of the anti-gunners are stupid, I'd give some of them some slack, they just need educating really. For all they k ow AR-15's are deadly, military grade efficient killing machines that can't be utilised for anything but snatchinf birthdays. I kind of feel sorry for them.
I was like that once, before I frequented /k/, Forgotten Weapons, C&Rsenal and other interesting weapon channels.
Shame I'm a bong in a city, it'll make getting a rifle bloody hard.
A Thompson would definitely be classier....
For arguments sake, if lefties are correct and guns are the problem, why weren't there massacres every week back when people had 100 round mags and full auto?
Good action movies with realistic tactics and reloading?
>inb4 way of the gun
>>30282522
All Michael Mann movies, Tropa de Elite, Munich was pretty good, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, Blood Diamond, Children of Men, these are some of the standards in terms of realism.
>>30282522
Probably on youtube
I've been trying to find a movie for the longest fucking time now. I actually don't know if its a movie or show but there's a scene where a guy goes into a van or car and shoots a few people inside with a handgun. But as soon as he fires the first shot he goes deaf and he stays deaf for the entire scene, the sound in the movie stays muffled and he keeps telling his buddy "I cant hear anything" or something to that extent. Anyone know what movie im talking about?
In light of recent events and the way things look to be unfolding in the United States, federal gun legislation seems to be only a matter of time to at this point. Not to be caught with my pants down, I'm hedging my bets and am going to buy and/or assemble an AR. My price range is set at $500 - $1000 and I'm aware that building one from scratch part for part is slightly cheaper, but I do not posses gunsmithing tools, nor have I ever built a weapon before outside of bench dissassembly of my 870, .22 Henry lever action, and a nugget, none of which are near as complex as an AR-15.
My question is, what does /k/ value the most in their AR?
Also, on a hypothetical notion, say things go to utter shit more so than they already have and we fall into total chaos. What would be the best build for urban combat?
>>30282382
A good barrel is going to be one of, if not the most important part of your base rifle. Who you go with depends on your budget. For around $150 I'd recommend AR15performance.com, they make great barrels all around and are the top choice for 6.8 SPC builds. If you're looking to spend a bit more, Ballistics Advantage, LaRue, Noveske, plenty of other choices. Lowers are all about the same except for the rollmark and finish. My Rainier has a much better finish than my Andersons.
You can get all the tools you need for around $50-$75. Roll punch pins, roll punch starters (not absolutely needed, but help prevent fucking up your lower), a receiver vice block, torque wrench (rent one if you don't have one or want to buy), maybe a polymer/brass hammer for the roll pins, barrel nut wrench (may come with hand guards). Assembly is very easy if you have basic mechanical aptitude.
Getting a good optic is also important, especially if concerned about SHTF. Primary Arms makes good budget red dots, not sure about their other scopes. I personally like the Vortex Strike Eagle, 1-6x zoom and great reticle.
Pic related cost about $1500 total with tools and 6 magazines. I could have saved by using a cheaper upper and lower, but the quality was worth it to me.
>>30282382
>What would be the best build for urban combat?
an AK pistol concealed under a coat that can be quickly opened.
as for AR builds? a 10" or 14.5" SBR build. if you don't want to pay for the tax stamp/hold an illegal weapon, then a 16" is the best you can get.
if shit were to pop off innacity, youd want easily hidden weapons -- if mil/leos see you with weapons once some hypothetical shit pops off, they're just as/more likely to kill you than any terrorist or criminal. small rifles fit the bill here, and at urban ranges, you dont need a full length rifle anyway.
>.22 Henry lever action, and a nugget, none of which are near as complex as an AR-15.
the lever gun is almost certainly more complex than the AR, and though the nugget isn't "complex" per se, neither is the AR...
the "high tech" aspects of the AR are only visible on the engineering side of things -- namely, it's high tolerances and "space aged" materials (read: aluminium and plastic). otherwise, it's still basically a tube with a rotating bolt system, and a trigger system so classical JMB would have likely made one as a kid.
I built a lower today with needlenose pliers, a hammer, and a pocket knife. I fucked up the finish a bit but I don't care because I rattlecan all my guns as a "YOU WILL NEVER SELL THIS" insurance policy.
>The Nordic Combat Uniform System (NCU) is an all service (army, navy, air force, home guard and special forces) combat uniform system for male and female soldiers. It is an inner to outer combat uniform system (from top to toe), which is functional in worldwide operations.
We're getting a new uniform in 2020 and it's going to be common with the other Nordic countries (Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden). In the Finnish news it was told that the new uniform will be 100% combat-oriented, so it won't look as pretty as the current uniforms and it won't be used in garrisons, parades, on leave or anywhere similar. Current plan seems to be that each country will keep their own camo.
So, discussion about the NCU.
>>30282379
>functional in worldwide operations
Confirmed for yet another Multicam variation.
>>30282384
Depends on the country, which came they want to use. We will continue using M05.
>>30282384
Countries will keep their own camouflage pattern.
Very very late last night (early am here in the u.s.) there was a thread with this image running.
The topic was simple, although the content of the thread varied quite a bit. Basically, what the fuck is going on right now in our society? I have a very ominous feeling that something terrible is about to happen, and we are unfortunately in the small minority of people who may have a bit of foresight into what is about to happen.
Let me say this. When have they ever been so bold in our lifetimes? Big names, such as George Soros operating in plain sight now for the past year or so, way fucking different than his usual M.O. of working from the shadows.
As our presidential election draws even nearer, I feel more and more wild things are occurring, but even worse, the reactions of the indoctrinated drones are nonexistent.
Really sit and think to yourself. Why the fuck would Obama tell schools that if they do not allow transgender students access to the bathroom of their choice, he will cut their funding. How in the flying fuck does that even remotely benefit our nation? I don't think any person with a shred of sanity can come up with a logical answer to how this declaration benefits our country.
He also goes on T.V. and openly laughs at us, saying only fools believe in racism or prejudice against whites. This is right out in the open, and I feel like only a few years ago this would be met with deafening criticism. Yet it just isn't there today. Their talons are now fully pierced into every facet of media. Some have seen this happening, caught glimpses of the takeover during previous years, yet were ridiculed as delusional. Even here on /pol/, before the shills arrived.
Well now we all know there is no delusion. A complete takeover has taken place. It's 1983 and next year will be 1984. We stand on the prescipice of a terrible event or series of events. Everyone who isn't numbed by their conditioning can feel this.
>>30282343
/pol/ is that way, happeningfriend
>>30282374
I'm a /k/ommando all the way. I went there to see what they had to say on Orlando and I found this thread and its predecessors.
I want to hear /k/'s take on this,
>>30282343
I was far more afraid of being blown up by the reds twenty years ago than some whiny politicians. If Obama was really that powerful, then wouldn't he have exercised it by now? Transgender bathrooms are entirely meaningless, if you should be worried about anything then it's rampant surveillance.
I'm not even saying your fears are unfounded, but you really should provide some better evidence for a 1984 scenario first before suggesting something like that
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