So this generation got FUCKED by Rebirth huh
>>83181776
Pretty much. Dunno is there anyone fucked harder than those three.
>>83181776
Almost as bad as they got fucked by Teen Titans and eventually New 52.
>tfw PAD's Young Justice will never be reprinted
I loved them but you gotta move on, mannnnn.
Can't wait to see how many dykes this will piss off.
Is this a new Gotham Sirens ongoing?
>>83181557
Get a life.
>Suicide Squad designs
Into the trash it goes!
The problem with DC in the films is that they are completely defined by the Marvel movies, a shadow that is incredibly difficult to move out from.
The Marvel cinematic universe has essentially written the playbook on how to write a blockbuster film. Make a standard action-fare film, cast incredibly likeable actors and have the interplay between them and others to be one of banter. Throw in a few jokes and some sort of tie in or lead up to another film, rinse and repeat.
Which is not to say all Marvel films are in any way good, but there's a uniformity of tone in that if you enjoy one, you'll probably enjoy them all albeit to different degrees.
DC's issue is that they will forever be judged not just as films, but against the Marvel films to a degree that doesn't happen in other genres. A comedy film that comes out isn't expected to be funnier than the most successful comedy of all time, other wise its shit. It can stand on its own for the most part.
DC therefore have the problem of having to make something distinct from Marvel. Marvel have the monopoly on the action balanced with levity of interplay, if DC do that, they're seen as aping what many could and would describe as a superior version.
Whether you like the Marvel films or not, the fact that they are one of, if not the most successful film franchises of all time. DC trying to create the same is a tall order made harder by the inevitable constant expectation they are expected to live up to.
And no I'm no Marveldrone or DCuck. The company war was started by tongue in cheek jibes by Stan Lee in the letters pages of the comics, a man who played golf with the DC people at the weekend. It was never supposed to be serious and if you in any way treat it as such you're a fucking moron. If you like it, read/watch it, if you don't, don't.
The problem with DC movies is Zack Snyder.
>>83181525
/thread
>>83181525
>>83181546
Fucking seriously, OP.
The problem with the DC films is that they are fucking terrible, and that's largely due to who's making them.
It's fucking pathetic to blame everything on Marvel.
How about DC tries making actually good movies first?
what's the deal with this haircup, /co/?
>>83181217
Bobcut master race!
>>83181217
It's the trend these days.
>>83181217
Ugly style for ugly people. Good for villains who get punched.
Remember that one Batman story that featured multiple, distinct Jokers all in one place?
>>83181136
Yeah - the non-canon one right?
>>83181136
>>83181165
BURN, SONNNN
>>83181165
everything happened somewhere
A-force #6
>>83180923
Who's the villain again?
Probably the Nazi
>>83180836
The one against America
>next issue will have Hydra agent Captain America teaming up with Red Skull to purge Islam from the North American content
>Not affected by the Flashpoint
If Arrow was affected by the Flashpoint, what major changes would you do?
you know the answer op
lets not pretend there are other options
>>83180577
Yeah I mean, what's the point of tippy toeing around the subject
Since Earth-2 already did the "Robert Queen is the Arrow" story, I'd go with Oliver as a brutal ARGUS agent completely loyal to Waller.
How about
Science slumber parties?!
Mmm
What did he mean by this?
>>83180312
What the hell would that even entail?
Wet T-shirt contest
Who would win?
>>83180298
Luck powers.
Us
>>83180360
/thread
>The web series DC All Access caught up with Grant Gustin and got his thoughts on Supergirl's arrival on the CW and whether or not Barry and Kara would make a good couple. "It would be a good match," said Gustin.
Stop it Grant stop making me want it more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3PciHFwSPM
>Kara and Barry, the two happy-go-lucky superheroes of the DCCW, end up together
>Iris and Jimmy, the two racechanged reporters of the DCCW, end up together
Search your hearts. You know you want this.
>if we put together these boring characters maybe they will be good!
Give us Power Girl and Wally already, no one cares about these two
They'd never have the white leads cuck their respective black love interests with each other.
I've been thinking this for a really long time, but this week has really made me come to terms with the fact that I hate Marvel. I've tried to give them a chance in the past but nothing they've ever made has really interested me. DC has offered me stuff like The Spectre, Suicide Squad, and Hitman that I've grown up with, but Marvel's heroes have always been kiddish and underdeveloped in comparison.
What also gets me is how anal Marvel fans are. I've noticed that almost all Marvel fans are social outcasts while the majority of people happily grow up with DC. It feels like a really contrarian way to make decisions. With that comes a sense of unwarranted self importance. Marvel fans like to pretend their books are "smart," and have a lot of guys like Hickman that write a lot of pseud gobbledygook. Marvel stories are all about being told how smart you are and being meta. DC isn't high art but they're good at telling stories about people that act like people.
But what really gets me is that they're always rebooting and pushing events that do nothing but dredge up shit from their past for nostalgia. It's a backwards way of writing that shows that they're creatively bankrupt, and I feel like they hurt ALL comics, not just their own.
What do you think? Why do you hate or like Marvel?
Wait was that shit in the open pic an actual comic Marvel put out.
>>83180076
Is that from an actual comic?
I'm an angry social outcast who likes marvel so I guess you're right
That said I'm not really reading current marvel, mostly just 70s stuff right now
>Wally West's return in Rebirth — and his warnings about a "darkness from somewhere" that's infecting the DCU — is just the beginning of the story. The character will share his message of 10 missing years in the DCU as he joins the Titans, a new series by Dan Abnett and Brett Booth that launches in July.
>And Newsarama has learned that DC has given Abnett a DC exclusive contract, as he's not only writing the new Titans title, but also Aquaman and Earth 2: Society.
>Because of Wally's return, Titans will be "central" to the events unfolding after the revelation that Watchmen characters have manipulated the DCU, according to Abnett.
>The monthly Titans title will spin out of the events of Rebirth while also picking up on what happened in Abnett's just-finished Titans Hunt. Wally will join with other team members from Titans Hunt, including Bumblebee, Nightwing, Donna Troy, Gnarrk, Hawk, Dove, Arsenal, Tempest, Herald, and other familiar Titans characters.
>Newsarama talked with Abnett about Wally's role on the team, about his early tease of the character's return, and why the Titans are so important for DC's new acceptance of legacy characters.
>Newsarama: Dan, you're DC exclusive now?
>Dan Abnett: Yes, I'm delighted. I didn't campaign for it or anything. I was offered it. I'd been doing stuff for DC for a while, sort of gradually, incrementally adding stuff to what I was doing — they asked me to take over Aquaman, asked me to take over Earth 2, and asked me to do Titans Hunt.
>And when the Rebirth thing happened, DC Co-Publisher Dan DiDio said, would you mind coming out to Los Angeles, to Wonder Con and everything? And I went, "Oh lovely!" You know, being part of the announcement, which I happily did. I was very happy to be part of it all.
>>83180052
>And once I was there, he said, "We really would like to put you on an exclusive, if you're interested." It felt like they were taking seriously my contribution, It wasn't like, 'Well, we're trying him out. If he doesn't work out, we'll get rid of him.'
>It's lovely to be connected to a company like that, and to have that relationship cemented. And I'm really enjoying what I'm doing for them. So it just seemed the right thing to do.
>Nrama: Readers have learned from DC Universe: Rebirth #1 that Wally West is back in continuity. Readers of Titans Hunt probably already figured that out, a week before Rebirth, because you hinted it pretty strongly.
>Abnett: Yes, there was one character missing. There was one character who should have been there. Anybody who goes back and looks at Titans Hunt will see that I was almost unsubtle. There was a person not there that nobody was talking about.
>Nrama: And now he's there. So he's going to be central to Titans and Titans Rebirth?
>Abnett: Titans Rebirth is all about the return of Wally. There are obviously going to be huge ramifications, because Wally is so important to Titans history. So it's a wonderful reunion, and it's a very big deal.
>He kind of rounds out the team. And also, he's sort of a messenger, a bringer of this warning. He has seen, to a certain extent, what it is that they're not aware of, but they're aware that something's wrong.
>The whole point of the story is to try to unlock the mystery of what's going on.
>That places it right in the middle of Rebirth in terms of its importance.
>Nrama: Is it right to assume his "message" is about the 10 missing years we learned about in DC Universe: Rebirth, and that the Titans will be among those investigating what happened to the timeline?
>Abnett: His message is absolutely that.
>Nrama: You must have worked with Geoff a lot on this?
>>83180058
>Abnett: Yes, I've spoken to him a lot on it. We've had meetings, face-to-face. He's been great, bringing me into it, in terms of how to connect Titans into what he's doing. So that's been a really fulfilling and terrific experience.
>When I got to read what he's done, all I can say is a single issue of a comic has not given me goosebumps like that in years.
>Nrama: OK, so Titans Rebirth brings Wally back, and he serves as a messenger to the Titans about the problems with time that he highlighted in DC Universe: Rebirth #1. Do you have to know anything about the Teen Titans history to understand it?
>Abnett: No, not at all. From the point of view of old readers, there are some wonderful things happening here that they will be delighted to see. But from the point of view of new readers, we take you by the hand and walk you into this and uncover and explain everything as we go.
>That's what the nature of the story is. The whole point of the story is to figure out what's going on.
>Nrama: With the launch of the new Titans book, you've got a new #1, but this is also a continuation of the story you're been telling in Titans Hunt?
>Abnett: It's still a new #1 that you can pick up without having read the previous issues. But in many ways, Titans Hunt was a prototype, experimental Rebirth book. I didn't realize that when I was asked to do it, but they were sort of trying out what they were going to be doing in a bigger way, which is to reintroduce or account for older continuity.
>So although the story doesn't continue, some of the themes do.
>For brand new readers, Titans Rebirth and Titans #1 will be a perfectly good place to start. But if you've read my Titans Hunt, you'll have a bit more of the lead-in story.
>If we've done our jobs right, it's both a great point to join into these characters, but also a great continuation if you're already there.
>>83180078
>Nrama: And these are all still the "New 52" characters, but they're realizing there's more to their history. Right?
>Abnett: Right, these are the "New 52" characters moving into a place where they suddenly realize there is more to their history than they knew. And their characters are morphing as they begin to realize this. For example, Donna Troy has gone from a very fierce, two-dimensional character to a much more rounded, questioning, wondering character. And that's true of Garth, that's true of Roy Harper, and of Nightwing even.
>I've tried to use some of these inconsistencies, some of the aspects of their lives — Roy's problems with substance abuse, for instance, and the fact that Nightwing has been Nightwing, Robin, Batman, Grayson — and rather than saying, well, that's what the continuity is, I'm saying there's a reason that he's never managed to fix a permanent identity for himself as a hero. And there's a reason that Roy went off the rails. And there's a reason that Garth is angry. And there's a reason that Donna is a ferocious, apparently emotionless creature. Because something has damaged them. And they're all kind of responding to that.
>That was what Titans Hunt was about. And now we get to learn why.
>Nrama: So now that Wally West is back, there are going to be some answers about what's going on? Is it tied into this idea of missing years that we learned about in Rebirth?
>Abnett: Yes, that's part of the story. What happened in Titans Hunt was, we accounted for how they could be a team where they apparently didn't have that continuity in the past. But Titans, as a book, begins with the team assembled, knowing that they were once a team, knowing that they were once friends, but essentially having no memory of it, and realizing that that lack of memory is a big problem. And it's of course tied into Rebirth.
http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/
tl;dr version: its not okay to make captain america an anti-semite
pic unrelated
>>83179983
Captain America was created by two Jews, so I think it would be in poor taste to make him an antisemite. It would be like a black guy creating a hero character that's a secret klansman.
>>83181298
think about where you are. 4chan would tell that man that he was a credit to his people.
>>83179983
Clickbaiting garbage.
I can't believe everyone is buying into this "cap is evil!111" bullshit.
Looks like I'm going to have to spend money here, as all the free ones have ads even while reading the comics. Please advise.
anyone?
>>83179915
I really have a thing for superheroines in bondage
bondage thread?