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My brother says that I speak Aramaic-ish when I sleep. Should I be worried?
>>17802600
Does your brother speak Aramaic or know anyone who speaks Aramaic?
>>17802600
Yes, you should be worried. Your brother is obviously yanking your chain, and you're gullible enough to buy it. Be wary if anyone tries to sell you a bridge.
also,
>ish
:/
Let's have a discussion about the "Heaven's Gate" cult.
Most of you have probably heard of them, the crazy cultists who killed themselves in hopes that an alien spacecraft tailing a comet would pick up their eternal souls and allow them to leave this world behind for good.
What many people don't know is that they are still around. Some members were chosen to stay behind and keep the cult alive. The website is still operational even after the 1997 mass suicide and resulting investigations. Their website can be found here:
http://www.heavensgate.com/
There are also links to books you can purchase as well as some videos recorded by the group, including interviews with people who would commit suicide on March 19-20, 1997.
So let's discuss the group. I realize calling them a "cult" can be seen as a derogatory word, but I can't think of a better word. I do not mean it in a derogatory manner, just as a way of describing their group.
It's an interesting topic, and brings up many questions. While probably not quite as famous as the Jonestown incident, it is still worth discussing. Just what were their beliefs exactly? Why did they believe an alien UFO was tailing a comet? Did they have any reason to believe there was something abnormal about the comet? Were the members simply taken advantage of and brainwashed?
This thread will probably stray into discussions of other cults, which is fine. Personally I find it a very interesting topic overall. It seems so strange that people would willingly go along with this and believe it wholeheartedly, but I suppose they all had their reasons to believe in the message of the group.
I'd be interested to hear additional stories of cults which met a similar end. As far as I know, Heaven's Gate and the Jonestown cult are outliers in the world of cults, being some of the few which culminated in mass suicide. Do the feds keep a closer watch on what's going on? Are these events getting more or less common?
anon these this shit creeps me out but here's a bump.
im always interested in cult shit because my mom lived in like a town away from the jonestown
she said everyone was shocked because they pretty much kept too themselves. coincidentally she said there was also free mason house right next door? is there really free masons in guyana in the 60s? she said the kids would always joke about people taking you too the house but i digress
i don't have much to add other then most of the documentary i've watched always pushed that Do was a homosexual but some how i don't think that is true...
>>17798739
Admittedly I haven't done much research into the beliefs of Heaven's Gate, but from what I gather they were a relatively typical alternate or "new age" group which believed in a higher power that was different than the Abrahamic God. I'm sure drawing people in wasn't particularly difficult, given the times and the nature of people who desperately want to believe in some higher being/power.
The most confusing part is the logical disconnect from being a quasi-religious organization that exists for support and study to being a suicide cult. From what I saw in the videos on the website, none of the members seemed particularly depressed. In a similar vein to Jonestown, I think the family members of those who died there never mentioned that their loved ones reported feeling depressed, but they did communicate less and less with the outside world.
I guess trying to figure out the train of thought that brings a group to mass suicide is creepy yet enthralling. Maybe it's a sort of mob or herd mentality. Maybe some felt that without the group they would have nothing, so it was better to do this than to be alone. Whatever the reason, I'm sure their family misses them all dearly.
I also wonder if the Waco siege in 1993 factored into this action at all. Heaven's Gate wasn't hoarding weapons and it wasn't in trouble with the law for other reasons, but I'm sure founders and members of cults felt targeted at the time. I think the general public views cults like these with distaste, considering all the high profile deaths associated with them, which in turn can lead to the ostracization of members who probably already feel trivialized for not being able to find faith in a more traditional, established faith group.
But, that might be a little too broad. In general, cults like these can be fascinating to consider and ponder. I think it's especially intriguing as to why some members stayed behind. Why is the site still up if the comet is long gone? Is membership rising?
Hey, to everyone who saw the thread before, I'm gonna give some feedback on what I did and what happened.
To anyone who didn't, i set up shrines to the voodoo lwa (gods) Papa Legba, La Sirène, and one for my ancestors; and carried out instructions for rites i'd found. (I'll give an account)
A lot of my information came from
'Voodoo Hoodoo Spellbook' -Lvarado.
"Secrets of Voodoo" - Rigaud
Blog.threekingsvodou.com
Also, thanks to Sevis
i can't stop farting
I first lit some incense, lavender, sandalwood and clove. Then the white candle, offered it east west north south etc said a prayer for my ancestors and then personal ones. (During i accidentally knocked a picture of my grampa off centre. I then lit Legba's candle and repeated the incitement i posted on the other thread. And this is where it gets interesting! During the incitement, my mind went completely blank, i didnt think about what words i was saying. I kept getting surprised i was speaking, it's sorta hard to describe but my mind kinda went 'up' like i a cloud and i could kinda nudge my thoughts but my it felt really light. I felt i'd only be comfortable to rock backwards and forwards like i could stop if i wanted to but i was kinda being carried like on a swing. And then just my left hand and foot started tingling. And then what's weird, was my voice broke, it got really low and my dog went crazy!
When i heard that i stopped.
I got it a bit more together, i lit La Sirène's candle, i sang some sea songs for her and i didnt feel anything as pronounced as i did with Legba but my head started tingling and i felt something tingling in the middle of my forehead, just below my hairline like there was something there.
I a little prayer to La Sirène and Legba, tied a knot in a necklace 7 times for a luck charm, then repeated a similar incantation to Legba, saying bye and thanking the Loa. Similar things happened, hand and foot started tingling my voice broke even rougher, this time my dog was chill.
>>17791382
it da voofoo monn
in this thread we write the first thing that pops in your mind
Write the first thing that pops into your mind
>blank af
>>17789461
in this thread we write the first thing that pops in your mind
I'm remember my name, your face, but I won't understand
Context: My gf's grandpa died a few years back.
For her birthday last year, her mother contacted a medium here in our village in Sweden, and they set up a meeting between my gf, her mother and the medium.
They are both quite spiritual and thought it would be a cool thing to do.
The medium spoke about her grandpa in a way only her father could, like she'd known him her entire life. (I'm very sceptical to mediums btw), and she said her grandpa is expressing a path in the woods were he lived most of his life, a path on which he used to take his daily walk.
He told her to go visit that path.
The medium also said she is sensing some sort of tools and things that might help her in life.
Now here's where the creepy stuff comes in, here in scandinavia, we have folklore and legends about gnomes, also known as vätter/småfolk. My gf was told to wary about the "small people" when going on that path.
Yesterday me and my gf, for the first time ever, decided to go find the house, where her grandpa had lived at the time, and we also found the path leading into the deep woods.
After entering the very old forest, we didn't expect much, atleast I didn't, my gf is always a bit freaked out about these things so I didn't mind her being shaky about minor noises etc.
We followed the path for a good 5 minutes, and it got narrower and narrower, always looking out for some sort of tool, like a shovel or an antique knife or something.
What we found next to the path, maybe 10-15 meters to it, was, what looked like, a roof.
We stopped and wondered what it might be, as it was broken and fallen apart.
I took the initiative to walk there to see what it was, and it was a shed, made out of concrete, with a broken metal roof.
I knocked on a tree and said out loud i'm going to aproach (just a thing you do when entering eerie places incase of "small people" according to old nord legends.
As I approached I saw this huge reinforced steel door.
>pic related
cont.
>>17783139
Continue...
It's locked, but it seems fairly easy to open with the right tools. You can zoom in to see the locking mechanisms.
We both feel like we have to open the door.
When I approached, a shitton of flies fled the scene, but no scent was hinting on anything rotten or disgusting.
This was the only picture I took, as this image was used to show my gf who didn't have to guts to come down there and check for herself.
I also want to mention that today, everything has gone bad for me. I accidentally stepped on my gfs ring, and as I looked under my foot and saw that it was broken, my bowl of noodles got tipped over onto the bed with newly purchased sheets. I've falled twice. I missed my bus because I couldn't find my wallet.
In other words, i'm unlucky today, and I can't help to think it's because I stepped into uninvited land. 3 days ago, I didn't believe this sort of stuff, paranormal maybe, but nord legends like this? Nah.
This shed is located in rural mid-west sweden, a good 1.5hr drive from any big village.
The only reason we went here is because we were in the mountains and on the way home, we took a different way, leading through her old home-village and the conversation we had about her grandpa.
Should we open it?
Also, sorry for bad grammar and writing, haven't had much sleep.
>>17783172
It sounds like becuase you were on "uninvited land" something is punishing you for it. I mean you said you were having bad luck. If it were me I wouldn't check it out but humans are curious. Its up to you if you do open it make sure you have like a gun or something and maybe a go pro to record whats going on
Hey /x/ are there any good documentaries about /x/-related stuff. I've been watching some old TV shows featuring supposed UFO footage on Netflix, but they're all from the late 90s at best. I was wondering if there were any shows/movies/specials/etc that have supposed footage, or discuss UFOs, Bigfoot, or anything else /x/ related
I'm not sure if you'd count this guy's videos as documentaries, but I find them generally enjoyable and he divulges the information in a pretty easy to understand manner.
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCW9QJjdFT9IdCjGpf1U74GQ
Hope you enjoy OP.
>>17811515
Thanks, there's a bunch and a quick glance through a couple seem exactly like the kind of thing I'd enjoy
>>17811496
watch "mirage men" , still on netflix i y
think
on youtube look up the series "UFOs: Then and now"
What did she mean by this?
>>17811401
History is rather slow… it doesn't happen in one year, it's rather a slow death, so I doubt the part about Europe.
And how will Obama be the last President? 50:50% for the 2 candidates, who suddenly start to kill each other?
Furthermore, I wonder, how the will end hunger, when the USA and a whole continent lies in ruins, ruled by some stupid extremists who aren't even able to look for their own people?
The cloning of organs already happened.
And where is the connection between advanced alien technology and the death of earth?
>>17811436
I have as much answers as you senpai
>>17811401
>Europe is an uninhabitable wasteland
>Filled with people
Pick one
>Solving world hunger after a continent has just been rendered uninhabitable
>Colonies on the surface of Venus
I want to know what the hell this bitch is smoking
I think sometimes we all need a good laugh. Something light-hearted to chuckle at.
My personal favorite is to look up Craigslist ad's for supernatural stuff in citties all over the US.
http://allentown.craigslist.org/com/5590105888.html
Here's the find of the day. Have a good kek
>>17811313
Guarantee that guy used to shit post on /x/ back in 2014 in those vampire threads. Good find. Hearty chuckle.
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>>17811330
Party Pooper
When will the meta consciousness become fully self aware? I can definitely tell it (we) are on the path, but how long do you think it will take?
pic unrelated.
November 17 2019
The metaconscious has also revealed itself to me and I notice more and more people making this discovery all the time although I do look in the right places
My assumption is that if we don't destroy ourselves it will become common knowledge by 2030 and soon after we will all be physically joined through technology
What's the metaconscious??
I need some help guys. Please.
So this one guy apparently "predicts" 2011 japanese tsunami and proof is on his facebook, and indeed 4 days before the tsunami he wrote
"alright guys 104 hr warning starts now, you've been warned." or something along those lines.
BUT he predicted nuclear war in 2012, so he was wrong...
BUT I must ask 2 things
1. Was his "prediction" accurate to the tsunami?
2. He predicted the results of a rugby game. I saw with my own eyes him say the score and the day after the rugby results were exactly what he said. He says it's rigged and TAB sportsbet knows all about it.
How did he predict those two things??
OOH side note, he said that the entire east of america including florida would experience a blackout
about 3 weeks later the entire WEST of america experienced one. coincidence?
It would be an extraordinary coincidence if people's predictions never came true. If people's predictions never came true, then you could just write down everything everyone predicted, and use the remainder to know that's what's going to happen. So either way, yeah, some people are always predicting the future, whether they realize it or not.
Think of it as an invisible storm on the surface of the planet. It goes here, then there, bounces around in no particular order. Now, if you're in the storm, you can use the storm to predict where the storm's going to go next. It's called being in the flow. But if you're out of the storm, then you have no way of telling if you're in the storm or not. Savvy?
Your friend was in the storm for awhile. Then, he slipped up, made a call that was 1 detail off, and was unable to predict what he needed to do next to remain in the storm. So it left, and now somebody else is in it. It's a blessing and a curse. It's mathematically impossible to have a network of people where nobody is in the storm. How a civilization shares this power among themselves really says a lot about where they're going in the future.
Your friend. You know what he could have done? He could have said. "NM. I'm wrong. No Tsunami in Japan." But he wasn't actually sure if the prediction was right or wrong, so he played chicken with it on Facebook. He had to test it, and he tested the lives of millions of innocents just to satisfy his ego. Whether it was a coincidence or not, think about that. That's your friends value system.
>>17810873
Not my friend, I hated the guy for the longest time, he had me scared for 3 fucking years. Every day, Crying, Being frightened about his predictions...
So i understand the coincidences of the blackout and the tsunami, what about the sports game? He predicted that correctly 5 fucking times in a row!
>>17810873
Oh and btw, just making sure you know, there was a tsunami in japan about 4 days after his post.
ITT: post everything you know concerning ayys, demons, and the Feds
> bonus if you can confirm they're all in cahoots with the devil
Drop it on me anons
they hate judgement
they look like cartoon characters
they fucked god over
All just part of the devils plots trying to get power. Ultimatley usless because we already know Christ will win and banish him.
>>17810650
INTERDENOMINATIONAL DEMONIC BEINGS
This happened a few hours ago when I woke up in the middle of the night, and it was my first actual paranormal experience.
>Be me, sleeping, at 2am. Strange dreams about seeing statues.
>All of a sudden, I feel a kiss on my lips.
>Single, there's nobody who should be in bed with me right now
>wtf
>I jump up, screaming, and I turn the light on.
It was so unsettling that I've been up since then and I can't forget how it felt. It felt like real lips on mine, because they were warm and soft... I don't know how to feel anymore.
>>17810471
Enjoy it, because this is the only kiss you will ever have. Now go back to /r9k/
>>17810479
I've had many kisses before, that's how I knew what happened. Stop being some kind of edgelord.
>>17810471
Sleep paralysis?
I've been away for a while, any news on that chainmail book /X/
>>17810458
OP admitted he made the whole thing, I can't remember what it actually said, but it was kind of stupid.
Still, it was a pretty cool book.
>>17810458
It was odd-parity hexadecimal ascii encoding. /sci/ figured it out. Said some shit about having fun and being mindful plus OP's gay name and 2016 on the first page. I'm glad I didn't put much time into the actual decoding.
>>17810509
This is why I only glanced at the thread from time to time and left the code-cracking to the hardcore fanatics.
Just think how much better it would have been if OP wrote something cool or meaningful. It was a really neat concept.
What lies beyond the boundaries of our universe, this time/space continuum which we choose to view in the third dimension? If the Universe is hypothetically infinite then is there even such a thing as "outside the Universe" or would such a conceptualization need to be far more abstract? If time, space and physics as we know them are unique to this Universe then is it possible for anything from eldritch abominations to maddening truths to exist beyond the threshold of perception? Or perhaps our imaginations are the only things which truly exist beyond the limits of time and space.
Unbound by the tethers of reality as we know them would existence for us even be that anymore? Perhaps reality is simply nothing more than the perception of context by which an Ego may differentiate itself from.
You're making this sound a bit more daunting than it actually is, aren't ya?
In an infinite universe, "outside the universe" would refer to other universes.
I personally like the black hole/white hole idea, the whole endless loop thing. But I can't even get people to comprehend the fourth dimension, so, I dunno.
I had some friends in high school who proposed the idea that we had already happened and were just a ghost of a memory of a long dead world that was in the process of being sucked into a black hole, and that was pretty cool. Had some others who decided we created God in order for it to create us, deciding the will was the creation force and the only thing holding reality together. Fun stuff.
Now that I think about it, much of what we claim to know of this universe is based largely on things which we cannot see, but assume to exist base on other phenomena observed among the stars. We class alien planets based on nothing more than the flicker of a pixel representing and impossibly distant blurry star. We purpose the idea of black holes, dark matter and dark energy simply because they must exist for our current models and theories to work. Perhaps this Universe is far more simple than we could have ever imagined and if that is indeed the case, is that itself not more terrifying?
>>17810451
Kind of like how time travel paradox must sustain itself in order for said time travel to occur. We create God that he may create us and so on.
I also like your idea of our reality being a mere echo trapped within the event horizon of a black hole.
>>17810456
Yeah, from what I gather, all of existence boils down to one equation or another. I don't put any stock in that "divine equation" crap that was going around here a while back (something geometry, I can't remember what it was called because it was stupid), but if you've got the right equation and all the variables, you can make a damn good guess as to what will happen.
I don't really think it's terrifying to think the universe is much more simple than we think it is, just maybe a little boring, almost. But, hey, if that were the case, maybe we'd get around to exploring our oceans and taking better care of the environment.
Yeah, that's it.
I kinda like that idea too. It's oddly comforting when I'm going through tough spots in life. I feel like if the universe can push on through freaking stars eating each other, if all of this has already happened, if the universe will just move on without us, then what I'm going through ain't so bad. I'm just a little disappointed that I don't get to look out and see time stretching behind us like theory suggests we should be able to. Or maybe we do, we just have to experience it one lifetime at a time.
so ive been waking up in sleep paralysis alot lately. why is this and what can i do
stop going to sleep
Don't sleep on your back
try jerking off while pretending to have sex with a succubus
