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Hi everyone!
So, I have a project where I need to determine NPV and IRR for an investment from the perspective of the company which carries out the project .I have tricky situation. I am not English speaking so I had difficulties finding a solution online.
My 2 serious are :
1. The initial investment is borrowed entirely from a bank
2. Loan is given out in portions in a period of 3 months hence there is accrual of interest at every end of the month
My questions are following:
1. What is the initial investment in period 0? I need to find out the NPV....
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>>1170304
hmm.. maybe the initial investment would only occur after all of the capital has been borrowed? I also dont see cash flows changing much until the end of year 1..
>>1170314
But if we judge from the perspective of the company who borrows. They put in 0 percent of their own money, so they actually start with zero.
If it was their own money, then I would not account for principal payments because there would be none. The company would get it's investment back via higher revenues (which are now lower due to principal being accounted into).
So basically you put zero of your own and decide how much this 5 year cashflow is worth.
That is my way of thinking. I do not yet...
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>>1170318
> via higher revenues
I meant via higher (more positive) net cash flow
Any /biz/ people in the NYC area that want to collab?
>>1170260
Never meet people from 4chan.
>Never
>>1170260
Will you be trading tips on how to suck dick? Just use Grindr Bruv
>>1170263
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Why are you not investing all of your money in Tesla right now?
cause tesla is gay shit, anyone can make a battery car it isnt advanced. their design is shit and looks like a used toyota corolla with ugly cheap ass plastic interior. the battery wall is stupid thing no one will buy and theyve even lowered the power even more from the announcement. at this point it is just a marketing company selling theoretical ai promises to dipshits and will all come crashing down once more people realize the founder does shit like paying millions of dollars just to hide the fact that he is bald. the entire value of the stock is being propped up solely...
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>>1170275
Better than a Nissan Leaf m8. If u can do it betetr do it. Hit me up on the day of the IPO, I'll invest $30 cuz my mom upped her fees for the apt m8.
It's going down very soon, already made money off their stocks.
ethereum mining
/biz what's the best card for mining ethereum , I can't decide between a 290/290x/380/390
I want to get about 4 of each, what's giving the most bang for buck?
I see 7990s are still the card to have but they are going for stupid money these days
>>1170207
Why mine ETH when you can mine TRUMP?
ETH already had its rally.. not much money left to be made.
>>1170239
Hmmm bullshit.
Don't invest in mining equipment; ETH is going POS later this year. Do some research.
What are the best Intro level textbooks on finance, economics and investing? Looking for textbooks only.
The best way to learn today is Martin Shkreli classes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARrNYyJEnFI
>>1170150
(OP Here)
Already on that bro, I'm on his 4th finance lesson, I watch each video about 3 or 4 times before I'm comfortable with the concepts. Still looking for textbooks though
>>1170422
The one he recommends is actually really good. One up on Wall street is good too for more general knowledge
When will this meme die?
It's not the 1800's anymore grandpa.
Perhaps at one time gold was the easiest, most comfortable way of storing and transacting units of value, but we live in the age of credit cards. Gold is just a commodity like any other, one with a very limited range of applications. Gold mining operations fluctuate their supply just like any other commodity on the market, this is hardly a stable monetary unit free from the fluctuations of the market.
Fiat money will always be subject to political pressure, I agree with you there. But it's likely that any future asset-backed currency will be tied to a basket of various commodities. Currencies will compete with each other to provide the most stable baskets.
You might have one currency backed by 10% gold, 15% oil, 30% mutual funds and 45% government bonds.
You might have another backed by 15% gold, 25% oil, 25% corporate debt and 35% municipal bonds.
Likely the currency which predominates in a certain country will mirror that country's production output. For example: Saudi Arabia produces a lot of oil, the price of oil floats their economy. Therefore an oil-backed currency makes sense.
Rather than a centrally managed money supply, competing currencies will provide a better alternative. Obviously these currencies will have to have some government oversight, and will likely have to be registered with the central authority. But there's no reason to go full fiat if you don't have a war to fight.
>>1170115
Gold looks pretty, and the weight feels nice in your hand.
I keep a few gold coins lying around my desk; it's nice to toy with them while thinking. They also make really nice paperweights.
I don't consider them a serious part of my investments; just something that helps me focus on making money. Each one has a story behind why I bought it; to celebrate a success.
Private property rights are enforced by governments and so should the currency. im a fan of Schiff and his hearts in the right place. But his solution to the problem is not. Americans simply need to heed his advice and start saving to consume/invest. Not borrow to consume/invest.
>>1170115
>When will this meme die?
I like gold though.
It's too expensive right now, but when it's cheap I'll buy some again.
How feasible would it be to move to Japan? How hard would it be to find a job?
>>1170109
>going to Japan for work during a recession
>not knowing that salarymans are legendarily overworked
Ok, good luck. Well, I guess you can be an English teacher.
>>1170112
Do I have to have a salaried job though? Is it not possible to just have a regular job, you know not office work or anything.
>>1170120
unless you speak japanese, don't count on it.
Even if you did, the cost of living isn't a meme, as a blue collar worker living in a city, you'll barely scrape by.
Give up on your weeb dreams.
What is the safest way to invest 100.000 euros and get 1000 per month at least in return ?
Im about to get 100.000 euros and im 20 yr old neet
>>1170054
1% returns shouldn't be hard to find out on your own.
>>1170056
Im talking about per month here.
I've done some research and if i put them in a bank and freeze them for 1 year i get only 8k euros per year
PROMOTIONS
Sup /biz/
I'm graduating with a degree in kinesiology (PE teacher degree) soon and I was wondering if I should just go to med school and become a Podiatrist or Physiatrist or some shit.
I started the major wanting to get into Orthotics and Prosthetics, but after a few years of being in a love/hate relationship with it and having everyone and their amputee telling me to get the fuck out and don't look back, I've decided to look elsewhere.
When I first checked it out O&P was reported as 80k/yr starting 100% employment, but the further I...
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>>1169985
Just be a male nurse. There's an actual need for those.
>>1170004
I saw a sign for that. I dont even know what male nurses do. Do they clean up after the female nurses?
MD + PhD here.
It sucks. Too many study years and physical work hours, not to mention student loans. It's inefficient.
How the fuck do I turn large amounts of BTC into USD or something that I can use to buy a fucking house, without the feds busting my ass?
>>1169808
To poloniex wallet and then to bank account I guess?
It's hard to launder big sums of money, you need a business that might of got you that kind of sum, maybe you could tell them you made it through a stock market, like poloniex? depending on the amount of money you have.
if they will investigate it and write to poloniex you're fucked anyway.
But depending on the sum and what country you are from, what business did you do, to get it, how much would they get into that.
If you already have a red...
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>>1169822
in addition, ethereum went 10x the starting price it was
Some other stock a month go went up to 300% in a day, could say you were lucky, only on the condition, they will not call them to view your activities there.
meet up with Tyrone and sell them in person
Vietnam and Myanmar (Burma) are the next big things.
Invest in Vietnam and Myanmar (Burma).
I've been thinking the same thing. Vietnam shares similarities with China regarding a centrally planned economy and cheap labor for manufacturing. By centrally planned I mean promoting free market ideals like zero red tape to promote foreign direct investment, but under the watchful eye of the bureaucrats.
I met with an investor who litteraly worked on government level strategies in Myanmar. The fucker had monthly salary in the millions USD.
Apparently many opportunities there.
Vietnam's corruption seems very high though. If you start making money the gov will come knock at your door.
>>1169991
Sounds like Chinese level corruption. It's being stemmed with the tiger and flys operation. Public officials protect property rights not take them
How do daytraders deal with brokerage fees eating away at their capital and profit?
Are there brokerages out there that charge just a small percentage of something per trade instead of a set fixed amount each time?
>>1169724
Nerve gas?
>>1169724
interactive brokers only charges me like $1/200 shares. it's pretty reasonable.
Everything I need to know about starting a business in NY (specifically Nassau County) please. I'm starting a sole proprietorship.
Please help me guys, i will give you a free sample of what i'm selling, but it will be low quality.
>Starting a business in NY
The only thing you need to know is that you shouldn't start a business in NY unless you plan to dodge taxes.
>>1169721
Sure, do you have a specific question? Always willing to help in small business threads. It is an improvement over most of the threads we have had lately.
Rank trading instruments from least highest to highest average return potential (without leverage and again with leverage).
For example (not in real order, just structuring example) -
Without leverage: Stocks>Forex>Commodities>Options>Futures
With leverage: Whatever>Whatever>Whatever>Whatever>Whatever
Essentially, what trading instruments provide the highest return without leverage and highest with leverage? I assume they would be the same, but I'm not sure.
Bonus: Which are the cheapest to trade from a broker fee, etc....
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>God Tier
Vanguard funds
>High Tier
Real estate
>Low Tier
Day Trading
Options
>Absolute Shit Tier
Forex
Penny Stocks
Cryptocurrencies
Oh Shit Nigger What Are You Doing Tier
>Leveraging using student loans
>>1169726
I'm talking about trading, m8. Not investing. While I concede that proper long-term investing (although not soccer mom-tier index fund investing) beats 9,999/10,000 traders in the long run, I'm only asking about trading instruments.
>>1169726
>Leveraging using student loans
My econ professor in uni actually recommended doing this.
I've already studied the hell out of investing over the past few years or so (40-50 books and thousands of articles).
I'm now studying trading/day trading/swing trading. I've been studying them enough for the past few months, so much so that I'd like to test it out on a simulator.
The problem is, for some reason, I'm intimidated by trading software and what not. I just know there are going to be 3,000 different "DMGA: 2DGOMcA%^7" choices on the screen and in the program itself that I won't understand what the fuck they mean...
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>>1169697
Gooby bump.
Bumpy.
>>1169697
You will find what you're looking for in NinjaTrader, it has a professional C# scripting/programming environment where you can implement whatever you want as long as you have the skill to write it in code. They also have a strategy-wizard which allows you to do the same with a point&click-interface which is for people who have no clue about C# but obviously this wizard is limited. Other than that it is just about as good/complex as TradeStation for example.
The way their pricing works: the platform...
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