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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, July 2nd:
866 – Battle of Brissarthe: The Franks led by Robert Baratheon are defeated by a joint Breton-Viking army.
1555 – The Ottoman Admiral Turgut Reis sacks the Italian city of Paola.
1645 – Battle of Alford: Wars of the Seven Kingdoms.
1698 – Thomas Savery patents the first steam engine.
1776 – The Continental Congress adopts a resolution severing ties with the Kingdom of Great Britain although the wording of the formal Declaration of Independence is not approved until July 4.


>News
HOI4 DD17/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-june-17th-patch-1-1-red-ball-express.949237/

CK2 DD 11 - The End of Days
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-developer-diary-11-the-end-of-days.950847

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[CK2 - 2.5.2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.1 - 20/06/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[V2] - 7 Years v4.1
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

Old Thread >>147232709
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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Nicholas
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Anyone recall the name of the memey Victoria 2 mod where China colonized California and the England/France union formed?
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Did HPM fix the economy yet?
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ITT: Say what your favorite Grand Strategy game is and your least favorite thing about it
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>>147289774
lol fuck that bro that's dumb af bro
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>>147289717
It's been fixed for 2 weeks

It has other issues, but they're not a result of HPM
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>>147289774
CK2

all the memey shit and border gore it produces.
also no pops
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>>147289774
Life is Strange
Not being able to marry warryn
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>>147289774
pfft haha no you colossal faggot
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>>147289774
get fucked LOSER
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>>147289717
You asked this last thread already.
>>147287796

You also asked the same thing for the last 4 days.
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/Did%20HPM%20fix%20the%20economy/
No matter the answer you always spam the same thing.
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>>147289940
Judging by the reaction last thread, I'd say it's just a steamgroup spam.
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>still using the reddit infopic without DH
Kill yourself OP
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>>147289765
If I make it to Vic, I'm curious as to how the populations will be treated.
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>>147290085
And there's always autists like you to point it out and shit the thread even more than simply reporting and/or ignoring
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>>147289774
FATAL
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>>147289774
Victoria 2.
Combat system.
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Reminder to pay for the games you play
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>>147289774
Victoria 2
Liquor meme
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Reposting from the archive.

The list of /gsg/ approved anime:

>GOAT tier
Legend of Galactic Heroes
The Cockpit

>Very good tier
Zipang
Jin-Roh the Wolf Brigade
Royal Space Force (The Wings of Honneamise)
Hyouge Mono

>Interesting tier
Kumo no You ni, Kaze no You ni
Flag
Night Raid 1931
The Rose of Versailles and Eikou no Napoleon – Eroica
Miss Hokusai
Schwarzesmarken
Berserk

>PTSD tier
Grave of the Fireflies
Barefoot Gen

>Comfy SoL tier
Sora No Woto
Pumpkin Scissors

>Ok tier
Mobile Suit Gundam 00
Mobile Suit Gundam 08
Mobile Suit Gundam I
Turn A Gundam
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Code Geass
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>>147289774
Vicky 2
Lack of inflation/regional pricing
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>>147290354
Based anime autist
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>>147289774
EU4

it's too complex and difficult
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>>147290354
consider suicide
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>>147290150
F R Y S K
R
Y
S
K
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>>147289774
Vicky 2
Not being able to form the Iberian Union but being able to form the Durrani Empire
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>>147290354
Huh, I actually agree.

CK2 tier, Arslan Senki.
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>>147290492
>HPMeme
Play a better mod
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>>147290539
Better than HPM? Hard to find.
Not that you steamgroup fags care though, you just want to kick him out.
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>>147290354
>Legend of Galactic Heroes
I'll concur. It's very good, but I feel it was half-assed towards the middle to end

Reinhardt:

>muh Kircheis
>muh sister

Wenli:
>muh democracy
>muh freedom
>dies like a faggot

Minci:
>muh Wenli

Ending:
>muh constitutional monarchy is best government
>everything is bound to go back how it was
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>>147289774
Teaching Feeling

You can't have anal sex with Sylvie
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>>147290657
try NNM you retarded reddit migrant
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>>147290492
The Iberian Union has been dead for over 100 years at the start time of Vicky 2. The Durrani Empire had been dead for 10.
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>>147290759
Lacks a lot.of good shit HPM has and it has too much PDM shit.
Go take your Ritalin.
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>>147290657
>m-muh steamgruppe boogeyman
Kill yourself
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>>147290870
The iberian union never existed as a country, so it can't be dead.
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>>147290873
>
wew lad, if anything HPM is the PDM copycat with all the meme economy changes
NNM has literally no changes to the economy and it's better that way
go build your steel factories
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/gsg/ would a Zoroastrian mega campaign be too memey? I think it might just me
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>>147290873
>NNM
> has too much PDM shit.
wew
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game has reached an unplayable state, time barely goes forward at speed 5.

don't even know how to break britain, they have like 10k planes...
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>>147290984
Most of the so called "flavors" are just irrelevant bloats anyway. The only thing better in HPM are the fixes. But the moment you mention you don't like the mod you are considered an evil steamgruppe memer in these autists' eyes.
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>>147290909
You always post the same thing, usually badmouthing hpm without any specific criticism, yelling about reddit, sperimg about hpm or 'r&i' or spamming about Alex. Its pretty easy to spot your posts.

>>147290984
HPM doesn't have any new goods.
Alright, I will enjoy the mod I like while you sperg about HPM.

>>147291068
I don't like the election spam or minister modifiers.
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>>147291027
Considering >>147279420 was from an Old Gods start, I can only imagine how beautiful a Charlememe start would be.
Didn't MCL do that last year for one of his segments?
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>>147291196
>historical events are bloat
You can always play vanilla if you want your games without any flavor.
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How the fuck do you play Asturias without the Muslims wrecking your shit?
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>>147291371
I didn't say that. I said you are part of the same group, not the same person, because of your MO.
Not that you care anyway. You just want to kick him out and destroy /gsg/
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>>147291416
Ally Charlemagne?
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>>147291416
Ally Karlings, lure them into mountains. Boat bomb them if possible.
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>>147291606
What's "boat bomb"?
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>>147291474
>You just want to kick him out and destroy /gsg/
Right, because getting rid of the person who's bringing in tons of ledditors a day that are constantly killing /gsg/'s culture would somehow destroy /gsg/.
Fuck off cuck
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>>147291236
And your shitty answer is always the same, why the fuck do you think it's just one person/steamgruppe? If anything, you are that one guy who keeps defending it like a stupid fanboy. Sorry for having a different taste and expressing my opinion. Dont you think its funny that HPM is the only thing you are not allowed to talk shit about in this general?
>>147291386
Cry more you stupid drone
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>>147290870
talex
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>>147291416
go on the offensive asap
those fucks have a revolt every other year
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>>147291649
Trick them into attacking a small stack on a mountain over a river, whatever, and then send reinforcements from a boat you have nearby.
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>>147289451
1.1 pirate patch where? All I see is 1.1 beta patches not the official patch oploaded

also how the fuck do I download mods if I pirate the game? there's no where to download
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>>147291898
>1.1 pirate patch where?
Steam, go buy it.
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Alright guys I'm in the middle of a French game in vanilla HOI3, since it's on another computer I unfortunately cannot post screenshots at the time.

Anyway, it's early 1940 and I have both Spain and Italy in the Allies since 1938. Now I managed to push up to a Karlssruhe-Stutgart-Ulm-Austria frontline in fall 1939 with my Eastern Army and the Southern Army (Alps Army + African units) attacking from Italy with ample Italian and Spanish support + the British Gibraltar Forces.

It was going pretty well since my infantry was equipped with modern equipement as well as AT and Artillery support brigades. They were able to hold the lines while my reformed&modernized 1st and 2nd Motorized Corps advanced.

The problem came when the AI sent all of its air unity from Poland back to the western front. My units started losing morale very quickly and I had to retreat back to the Maginot line (in orderly fashion tahankfully, no unity were lost).

Now I am constructing interceptors and TACs but they wont be ready till June. Any ideas on how to contain the German Blitz through April-May and afterwards?
Note that I did construct additional fortifications on the Luxemburg and Belgian borders (about up to Sedan).

Pls help, I dont want to have to evacutae to NA like in my last France game.
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>>147289774
Vicky 2.
Dice.
I have 10 army techs. They have 5. 60k forces shouldn't be losing TWO THOUSAND men a fucking day while they lose 300.
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>>147291713
Is pretty obvious it's the same group when its your group declared objective and its always the same things, always sperging when you see hpm mentioned or even hinted at.
You are allowed to talk shit about anyone you want. I'm allowed to call you on talking shit on someone just because you want to expel him.
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>>147291584
>>147291606
How do I make them be friends with me?

What do you mean by lure them into the mountains? They just holy war my western provinces one at a time, and the only mountains are in Muslim territory on their border with the Franks.

>>147291747
How am I supposed to do that with an army like a third their size?

Like with everything raised and my vassal levies I got like 1,500 troops at max, and they roll in with a 3k stack.

>>147291814
That requires having boats and the battles to happen on coastal areas.
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>>147290814

BASED
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>>147292053
hoard some cash and hire mercs
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>>147292053
Marry someone with them.

>>147291973
You are right about all these things except replying to them. They only get more butthurt and shitpost more when you give them attention. They are powerless to kick HPM out, just report their posts and ignore them. Unless you want to bait them in sperging out, of course.
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>>147290354
>My autistic endeavours to make this list lives on
Sasuga shitposters
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>>147292194
It's always fun to call them out and see them sperg.
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>>147292053
>How do I make them be friends with me?
Marriages.

>What do you mean by lure them into the mountains?
Set some bait, with some small stack resting on a mountain. Enemy will hopefully try and attack them. Once you're certain they've taken the bait, move your reinforcements.

Or swear fealty and ignore any revoke county messages. Build up the gold for mercs that way. Though expel the Jews before doing that.
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>>147291814
Huh
Exploiting the AI feels like cheating
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Any V2 modders in here?

At what militancy do rebels start organizing and is there an easy way to slow it down or something? I was debating adding a weird decision for it but this would be infinitely cleaner

I'm tired of rebels consitently permanently fucking 15-30% of nations in my playthroughs.
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Thinking about doing a Poland-Lithuania game in Vicky II, what government should I have and where should I expand?
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>>147292137
Oh, I've been using my cash to keep upgrading my castles so I have bigger levies. Are mercs a better idea?

>>147292329
They don't take bait, they set a holy war on my province and ignore everything outside of that province.

>holy war for Leon
>they b-line for Leon and never stop or attend to anything else
>holy war for Coruna
>they b-line for Coruna and never stop or attend to anything else
etc
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>>147292520
Facist of course
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>I'm not trying to kick modders out
>I'm not trying to destroy /gsg/
>These are just our declared objectives
>There's a big reddit conspiracy you gotta believe me kicking quality content creators is good for us
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>>147292520
Only way it will make sense is if it is a monarchy

>>147292443
Just pass reforms m8
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>>147292708
>quality content creators
t. steel pro
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>>147289673
Divergences or something like that
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>>147292708
Based Steamgroup
Cobra is based
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>>147289673
>>147292993
Divergences of Darkness, don't think it works with the wiz update though
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>>147292329
>>147292194
Does only the ruler's choice of marriage count or can marrying/betrothing my kids off help? Do I need to marrying someone like a princess or whatever or do courtiers improve relations too?

King Aurelio just married Charlemagne's aunt, so hopefully we're off to a good start.
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>>147293314
You need to marry a karling.
Tooltips explain effects and you can see allies/relations in your ruler's tab.
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Lads should I stay as a Maronite kingdom or convert to faith of the crusaders?
Then should I make my culture Levantine or do I stay Mashriq?
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Rate my world after the Great War.
Britain and Italy were dismantled, with the territories split between Russia, Japan and the US.
Look carefully, and find all the spicy memes.
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>>147292708
I still refuse to believe that there are actually people who spent several hours every week living and acting like a meme persona.
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What do you with the French? I attacked them over a trade war after they blocked Paris' riches to me, should I settle for monetary compensation so there's a strong French state for me to fight even now and then or should I set up small French client states and fracture them?
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>>147292745
It's for the bots
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>>147293720
>hating on memers
sup meneth
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>>147293575
stay masriq
push the crusaders out
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>>147292708
>unironically defending Grandimod
Hellooooooo alex
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>>147292708
This shit is so surreal, I can't believe there are people this pathetic and autistic.
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>liege enforcing realm peace
how do i stop this meme
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>>147293790
red is your must have borders
take yellow if you have the time
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Wow, great job Paradox.
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>>147293929
Meneth was recently disposed by Paradox because of the Stellaris wiki disaster. He's now living in a social building project.

t. insider
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>>147293401
This shit is legit unwinnable.
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>>147295142
Tell me more about this wiki disaster. You better not be memeing me
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>>147290150
Take the ~300 years to clean up the borders a bit.

Fix those blobs m8
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>>147294879
>if you have time
I can probably still take 80% of Europe if I wanted to blob, but I'm trying to stay small with a fully developed heartland
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>>147295436
The AI's off to a great start >>147294965
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>>147294379
t. Grandi Youth troop leader
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>>147295584
Is ironman enabled?

If not, tag switch to them and convert them, or spawn a bunch of religious rebels.
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>>147295623
>He spends most of his free time carrying on the autistic crusade of a teenage turk who couldn't even mod for shit
What is wrong in your life friend? What led you down this sad path?
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>>147295742
Think the former's out of the question, I'll give it another decade or so for rebellions to spawn on their own. Fucking Shia's out of nowhere.
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What do you think of this man?
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>>147295780
calm down lad its just a little cheeky memeing okay
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>>147295914
Rob is looking good these days, I guess the hormone treatment is going well
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I wonder, what could one possibly infer from this picture?

What did he mean by this?
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>every time the muslims war me Leon, Dommonia, Kernev and Brocrec are like "hey we'll join your war"
>march down to Asturias
>see Muslim army
>immediately turn 360 degrees and walk away
>already lost 3 counties in hopeless wars
>by October 771

Do I need to sacrifice a lamb to the RNGods to win as this fucker or something?
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I'm trying to make EU4 even slightly less shit/blobby/easy, and make its warfare more realistic and so far I'm actually liking the results. I've made combat a lot faster and chaotic, made standing armies a huge money dump in the early game so you're basically stuck with mercs or raising forces during the war. War Exhaustion finally actually fucking matters, battles actually give you good warscore and you don't have to carpet siege an entire country to take a single province anymore. No more weird arbitrary forcelimit because you simply can't afford to even consider a forcelimit. Money actually matters.
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>>147296272
>immediately turn 360 degrees and walk away
Despise this meme desu, I wish the AI would work with you far more instead of playing cat and mouse with the enemy
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>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01*°
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.5*°
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.5*
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t

>>[V2] Liquor and Bureaucrats Mod 1.2*°
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ r1s3v3z0d17ctya/liquornbureaucrats.rar

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin*
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB

* The R&I will sperg out if you download this
° Alex da Silveira and his Grandi Youth will harass you if you download this

Reminder that 7 years guy is definitely not a shitposter.
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>>147295217
you could swear fealty to francia if they form the empire
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>>147296403
I'm going to upload it to steam in a second but I thought I may as well put it here as well. Technology in the 17th century will reduce the cost of armies and raise the price of mercs back up.
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>>147296551
>>>[V2] Liquor and Bureaucrats Mod 1.2
What does this even do?
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>tfw Habsburg count
>fail again and again to gain the duchy of upper burgundy
>current duke dies, super duke of bourbon inherits
>gross french benis
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>>147296765
Turns all POPs in to liquor, and the only good is bureaucrats
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>Grandi Youth going all out to shame Radical Yugoslavians

I'm sorry that we don't let your leader and his autist lackeys get away with everything and take full control of the thread.
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>>147296551
>mememod

what even was the point of Commiemod if this is just going to do the same shit.

ie be a meme
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>>147296675
fucking link it, you loser.
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hey famns can yall hook me up with some hoi4 mods ok ?
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>>147297054
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>>147297054
buy the game you fuck
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>>147296403
Do you have a pastebin for it yet?
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>>147293720
>>147292708
>>147292194
>>147291236

That's all me folks!
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>>147296272
[dutchland intensifies]
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>>147296272
>not saving before every battle and then reloading if it goes wrong
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>>147297054
see >>147297157
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Seriously HPM what the fuck is this
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>>147297150
>>147297157
>>147297217
t. wageslaves

im not paying money for a meme game now give mods now you fuckers or else
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>>147297054
>HOI4
>>>>Playing HOI4

beyond anything it was just so boring.
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>>147297380
dumb entitled neet
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>>147297380
My picture already contained the solution, not our problem if you're too inept to find it.
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>Netherlands keeps getting bigger
>still the same shape
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>>147297380
yeah sure lad
www.hoi4smod.zoi.com/recent
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>>147297368
HPM can't code to save his life. In the course of fixing this he'd just create another 3 bugs.

In other words DELETE THIS
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>>147297517
ebin virus site there m'lad too bad for you I disabled my cookies
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>>147297368
This is the single biggest issue I want to tell him about.
It makes no sense, both in game and from a coding perspective.
The US should have no interest whatsoever in piss-ant uncivs in Asia/Middle East.
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>>147296272
>immediately turn 360 degrees and walk away
That doesn't make any sense wouldn't you just be facing the same way lad?
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>>147297464
Like the /bus/ forum of torchan
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>>147297380
Stop posting any time, you disgusting pedophile scum. People like you should be put into concentration camps!
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>>147297495
Aesthetic blobbing is the only acceptable form of blobbing
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>>147289451
Want to get back into EU4, saw that apparently the new DLC is required to able to play?? Last expansion I have is el dorado.

Is this true?
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>>147297810
Essentially.
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>>147297870
What's the only required one? Common sense?
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>>147297810
Pirate you stupid fucking idiot.
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>>147297921
All of them are required.
Buy them now, goy!
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>>147297921
I think so, but the newest one was Mare Nostrum.

Basically made navies less shit.

Just pirate it, honestly. I bought the base game but pirated the dlc
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>literally impossible to make modern Lithuanian or German borders in hoi4
what is the literal point and why does paradox think non-cored territories provided virtually zero manpower during this time period, more French fought for the Axis than against.
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>>147297810
You should buy all of them, since even the so called "cosmetic" DLCs add a great amount of depth and immersion to you gameplaying experience
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>>147297921
If you buy some Common Sense maybe you will finally realize you can just pirate Parajew's shit instead.
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>>147298256
DELET THIS
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>>147298003
>>147298023
>>147298089
>>147298131
>>147298256
Can't steam check for pirated DLC and ban you for it?
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>>147297921
pls buy
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>>147298434
What is the context here.
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>>147298445
No. In theory they could probably do it but it's not worth the effort, cost and breach in privacy to do so and they simply don't fucking care.
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>>147297169
>>147296403
>>147297028
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54

Has the download link and a brief description
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Daily reminder that paradox is just a small independent developer and they need those sales just to make ends meet. Please don't pirate their games, buy them so you can support our small independent company, and help us make these great niche games for you, the player
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>>147298580
Wiz created Common Sense, which is a EU4 DLC that fucked up the game badly. As a result paracucks gave him a few trophies for being the best game ruiner of the company.
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>>147297921
My mod requires Mare Nostrum
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Is Conclave worth getting now with HIP?
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Why is everything so dead today?
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>>147298686
Looks less shit than the base game. I'll try it.
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>>147299090
Amerifats are on holiday and europoors are watching football
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>>147298686
look awesome, do an aar here please
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Jesus I've been gone wayyy too long
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>>147299306
Will do! Do we still have that random campaign generator? I don't trust the ingame random nation shit
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>>147299336
talex
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>>147298445
Yes. Please buy all the DLC.
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Reminder that the only good anime is Love Hina.
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Wtf is this railroading, I'm playing as UK in HPM and I decided not to attack Qing since I want to make as many nations as possible independent, and have the big powers own all their cores

But the game fucking gave me Shanghai some years later
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>>147300439
>Love Hina
>good
Time to fire up the ovens
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>>147289571
Codreanu
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>>147300439
'no'
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What non-German lands should be annexed into my early Reich?
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>>147300750
>silent handsome japanese man chases underage pussy for two hours the movie
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>>147300820
All of them
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>>147300820
give it all to germany
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>>147300820
Bohemia
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>>147300546
>>147300750

And the only good manga-ka is Mitsuru Adachi, desu.

If you don't know who he is, kill yourself because your taste is shit. He is the greatest manga-ka in history.
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>>147300820
Poland
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>>147300820
conquer denmark for the sound toll
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>>147300820
>durham
What meme mod?
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>>147297805
I'm Muslim.
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>>147301258
That was actually a thing desu
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>>147301019
>only good manga-ka is Mitsuru Adachi
Well I wouldn't know since I only stream anime in 360p

>If you don't know who he is, kill yourself because your taste is shit.
I bet you're one of those alt-right man-children that jack of to anime porn all day
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>>147301258
Beyond Typus: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=631545981

>>147301118
I know I'll be taking 1917 Germany +Jutland, Greater Luxembourg, Austria (Tyrol included), and Bohemia. Still on the fence about how much of Switzerland I should go for.

>>147301039
I'll use Mazovia or Krakow for a polish vassal. How much should I directly own?
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>>147301483
>a semi autonomous meme that only appears on a map of E&W means it was a thing
"no"

AT BEST it should be a province modifier giving less taxes.
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>>147301503
>not being a proud alt-righter
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Anyone here play the aSoIaF/GoT mod for CKII? Thinking of getting the game just to play that mod, and wondering how it is.
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>>147301885
do you want the vassals of France to just be province modifiers as well
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>>147301503
>>147302116
what's this new alt-right meme
didn't use to hear that a few years ago
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>>147302193
>he thinks england was as decentralised as france
WEW

All of France was divided into fiefdoms, all ruled by different people with different laws, it was one realm in the loosest possible definition.

That was absolutely not the case in England. If the Bishop of Durham even tried to match the King's authority he would have been BTFO so fast his robes would fall of.
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Can anyone explain the pros and cons of keeping vs. releasing prisoners in CK2? I'm Finland, and have been back and forth at war with Sweden multiple times. I now have the Swedish king's wife and two daughters in my dungeon. I can ransom them for gold of course but do I gain anything from keeping them captive?
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>>147302575
make them concubines
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>>147302351
Communism isn't edgy enough for teenagers these days.
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>>147302351
are you forgetting to spend your mandatory time on /pol/?
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>>147302351
as you can see in the image here >>147302116
it's a lot of words that i could use, but it really speaks for itself
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>>147302524
>The lands ruled by the bishops became known as the 'County Palatine of Durham', a defensive buffer zone between England and the Northumbria-Scottish borderland. Due to its strategic importance and its remoteness from London, the County Palatinate became a virtually autonomous entity, in which the Prince-Bishop possessed the powers of a King. Specifically, the Prince-Bishops had the authority to

>hold their own parliaments
>raise their own armies
>appoint their own sheriffs and justices
>administer their own laws
>levy taxes and customs duties
>create fairs and markets
>issue charters
>salvage shipwrecks
>collect revenue from mines
>administer the forests
>mint their own coins
>For a period Carlisle was also placed under the bishop's jurisdiction, to protect the north west of England.

>Durham's exceptional status reached its zenith by 1300, when Prince-Bishop Antony Beck remarked that:

>There are two kings in England, namely the Lord King of England, wearing a crown in sign of his regality and the Lord Bishop of Durham wearing a mitre in place of a crown, in sign of his regality in the diocese of Durham.

Might want to at least google something before making a claim about it
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>>147302734
I don't go to /pol/ but that doesn't mean I like nonwhites flooding my country either desu

>>147302827
yes but where does the new name come from from, specifically?
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>>147302351
crypto-nazi contrarians
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Why is "Republican" Spain Communist?
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>>147302642
Does this do anything for me or is it just lulzy?
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>>147302575
Check the warscore. Some prisoners give you 5-100 warscore. If not just sell them off and weaken his wallet.
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>>147290354
what about jojo? it's got a cyborg ultranationalistic nazi in it
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Who the heck actually browses /pol/ but trolls, manchildren and virgins?
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>>147303079
Alternative right, a horrific combination of neo-nazism and glorious reactionism
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>>147303168
You get prestige for turning noblewomen into concubines and I'm pretty sure they pass claims down to your bastards, which can be legitimized so if you rape a baby into a French princess you can later legitimize your son and push his claim on France.
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Trying to hold of the Muslim conquest and do well as Asturias, so far my strategy is to marry Charlemagne's aunt ASAP and force France to ally me.

It works well, unless Charley expects me to help in his shitty rebellions, and since he's at a rebellion he doesn't send his troops to help me fight the muslims.

So I'm wondering, what if I get him to ally me, then immediately war the Umayyads before he has any rebellions to deal with? I don't care if Francia gets fucked up in the process I just need Spain to become great.
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>>147302835
>>hold their own parliaments
Literally nothing. Every town was allowed to decide rudimentary things.

>>raise their own armies
Under the crown. They didn't go fighting their own wars.mthis "army" will have been much the same as the Swiss guard in the vatican today.

>>appoint their own sheriffs and justices
Come on now. Every where had it's own fuxking sheriff.

>>administer their own laws
It's almost as if the clergy had political power in the middle ages.

>>levy taxes and customs duties
Again, most od these are just the same thing phrased differently. Everywhere had regional autonomy, it was called feudalism.

>>create fairs and markets
Hahaha.

>>issue charters
Another law one phrased differently.

>>salvage shipwrecks
Wow. They were allowed to pluck some wood out of the sea.

This fucking meme needs to die. Literally everywhere in England could do the same, should they all be independent?
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>>147303258
Memes are the most important facet of it here desu senpai
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>>147303258
>horrific
>>>/r/9gag
>>>/r/buzzfeed
>>>/r/vox
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>>147303258
t. P*le
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>>147301509
Also, what colonial lands should I take before I try to convert?
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>>147303258
>he's a monarcuck
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France jumps into the Reconquista and takes land in southern Spain in the early 12th century. What would you name the culture of these people?
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>>147304171
Andalouse?
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Can someone explain why CK2 vanilla is so fucked up? I'm running 2.4.5 with flatmap and the frame-rate is horrible compared to when I used to run the game like sex without flatmap 1 or 2 years ago.

I don't have this issue with mods like After the End and to a lesser degree Geheimsnacht so what the fuck is going on?

Is there some sort of guide on making the game unfucked?
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>>147304534
They keep adding too much bloat (India) for an unoptimized game with an engine that can't handle that many titles, events and characters
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How long does the diplomatic penalty for breaking a truce last in CK2?
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>>147303668
#ridethetiger brother
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>>147304534
>playing vanilla

just use HIP with SWMH, with India and West Africa removed
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>>147303084
The stalinists used the civil war as an opportunity to purge their political rivals like the trotskyists and anarchists and took control of the republic.
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>>147305014
Both of whom are Communists
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>>147304075
>He's a republicuck
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Oof. I kinda feel like shit treating my pops like that.
Sure I have max schools and healthcare now but like 4 revolutions happened during 3 wars.
So many people died and then I gave them voting, only rich voting, and they're militancy and con drops to 0. They're just so tired that they want to sit in a chair and be quiet.
Plus now the assholes can vote.
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how do i edit starting factories? i cant see it in the history files
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>>147305317
Aaaand liberals won with 100 fucking % of the vote.
This was a terrible idea. It's not worth it for .08% pop and a measily 10% more literacy power, not when you already have 2 or more % clergymen by the time you can pull that crap off.
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>>147305205
My point being that whereas the republic started as a democratic coalition of ideologies it became almost purely stalinist during the civil war; hence the switch to communism in game.
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>>147299306
So I started the game, and the largest force I can muster is about 5k in peacetime. I'm going to take a risky bet and invade Hungary in the hope that I can hold off Austria to the south.
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>>147303084
Because the Republic was hijacked, essentially. A left-leaning government was democratically elected, reactionary forces (much of which was composed of the Republic's armed forces, but also right wing and fascist groups) attempted a coup, and the Republic raised militias (most of which were composed of anarchist and communist groups) to bolster its forces. It essentially became an international left versus right battle since the legalist argument wouldn't really matter and the international brigades weren't made up of enthusiasts of the Spanish constitution.

Civil war does a great job at radicalizing and galvanizing positions, too, and Soviet influence did its part on the Republic. Orwell (who fought as a volunteer) was very much a socialist, but despised totalitarianism (to the point where 1984 and Animal Farm coined most terms and metaphors we use to talk about it) - he ends up describing a bunch of his disillusions with the republicans in some of his essays. "Looking back on the Spanish war" is a fascinating read.
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>>147305941
Btw, I went with the Hussite leader because there was no way I could handle 50k rebel stacks.
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>>147305290
>implying i'm not a #nazimissile
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>>147305609
Province history.
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How do I into victoria 2 naval? Normally I just build a bunch of manowars and avoid naval battles the whole game
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>>147305884
.08% pop growth is absolutely worth it.

Just appoint a non-liberal party when the populace vote wrong and use the militancy for more reforms.
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>>147306304
Build steam transports
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>>147306109
kthankslad but can i put the factories in any province in a state or does it have to be a specific province
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>>147306573
Pretty sure it's any province.
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>>147306697
ok, thanks a lot
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rate this MeMe my lads.
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>>147306037
Scratch that, Hungary has a truce with me. I'm an idiot. I'm planning to launch a campaign against the Polish from the North because it puts more space between myself and the Lithuanians.

Sadly this went to shit during the war--it took me too long to muster forces to launch an assault and now I'm reacting to the Polacks in the south of Silesia.
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>>147306928
Well meme'd, my friend! :^)
>greentext
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>>147306978
A few days into this battle and the battle damage and speed is noticeably higher. This fight has been going relatively well for me so far. I think this is the majority of the Polish forces atm.
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>>147307182
Fucking ok, this is ok. Onwards and upwards.
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>CK2 HIP 867 start
>Scotland conquers England every time

Worst meme
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>>147307336
works on my machine
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Foreign investment in Victoria 2: A meme?
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>>147307336
stop lying faggot
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>>147307928
wow xD thats very funny :upboat:
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Is it best to constantly encourage craftsmen in my most populated states or should I spread it out at least a bit?
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>>147307693
Are you kidding?
If you invest and there's no competition you get a huge diplomacy bonus making them way easier to sphere. Also you get half of their RGO output. That last part gets split up depending on how much is invested and by who, for example if you and Austria both invest 5k then you both get 25% of it's shit.

First thing I do is build railroads everywhere that lest me when I research experimental railroads, if only to make it harder for other nations to invest diplomacy.
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>>147307978
Great le ironic post my friend
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Which of these games has the best PVP gameplay
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>>147308605
I came here for HPM too.... LOL... funny stuff ehh?
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Will the British still guarantee Minecraft Poland's independence or am I free to steamroll it without allied intervention?
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>>147302575
You can ransom them, be merciful, and let them go, or keep them. For poor infidels, I keep them there forever.
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