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>News
HOI4 DD17/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-june-17th-patch-1-1-red-ball-express.949237/

CK2 DD 11 - The End of Days
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-developer-diary-11-the-end-of-days.950847

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[CK2 - 2.5.2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.1 - 20/06/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[V2] - 7 Years v4.1
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

Old Thread >>147158391
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first for Victoria 3 might actually be good
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>he isn't a fascist revolutionary
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Reminder to purchase all DLC and that torrenting is illegal.
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Proud russian nazi
1488
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Reminder to pay for the games you play
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I want to marry Johan.
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Gales I'd the breezy rain in fall of. I want top line in games because it is the best peroxide in all of France. I want to live in game because it's the best province in all of fans.
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Really makes you think
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Damn...
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Codreanu
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How do I make proper Islamic Republic of Iran in herts of goys 4?
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Heresies in CK2 are pretty shit, is there any mod that fixes that?
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gsg approved documentaries/movies/tv shows?
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Are you a fascist revolutionary or are you simply reactionary because I talked to this guy who said he was a fascist revolutionary he didn't even care about the degrading moral fiber of t he just basically said "live and let live" but he didn't wasn't too impose hours will upon perry pelt. What I mean by that is that he didn't want to impose his will upon Pierpont.
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ck2 best rpg best girl
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>>147233016
CK2+
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>>147233024
Go look in the archive, there's literally an image for that.
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What are some good pre-Napoleon Germany borders?

Excluding vasslas/clients
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amidoinitrite /b/ -- I mean /gsg/?
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Post your soundtrack for Japan in hoi4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPyk1dsGZQY
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>CK2 activator gets marked as virus
>johan was just trying to protect me this whole time
ebin
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>>147233105
>Counterespionage: 9
Does that mean they have 9 spies fighting against my own?

How do I remove enemy spies so I can raise support for their Nazi party better?

Also, as you may see by the pie chart on the right, support is just all over the place for all the parties. Is it worth it to try and coup India in this case or should I just stick to using leadership points on research?
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>>147233118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfjU3_XOaA
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>liege has enforced realm peace
what is this meme
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>country im trying to give lend lease to doesnt have enough convoys
C M O N paradox
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I just want a game with hoi warfare and vicky 2 economy and politics. Is that too much to ask for?
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>>147233753
yes
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>>147233703
>you can't request lend-lease and AI is too dumb to offer it to you
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>>147233201
What kind of virus? Where'd you download it from?
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Can someone upload Veritas et Fortitudo for me?
Steamworkshop downloader still doesn't work for it and I'm a filthy pirate.
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>>147233305
The more you spread spies with multiple actions, the less effective they are, since you can have a max of 10 spies in a single country.

Do only counterespionage until you kill all their spies, then leave it at the minimum. As soon as they start getting more they'll be likely killed.

Get enough Covert Ops for a Coup, but don't do it early. Then stop investing in it and switch everything to Support our Party

For a decent chance at couping you need 40%+ party support and shitty national unity on the target. Even then it's still mad difficult to pull. Just savescum.

Also use influence to bring them to your side of the triangle, and max diplomatic relations by trading a lot (just do a shitton of small/negligible trades like sell 1 energy)
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>>147233305
Nationalists really got screwed over this game, damn. Guess I'll have to invade Spain or try to coup them as well.

>>147233997
Thanks for the help man.
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I don't get how to play Sweden in EU4.

Like, every time I just get DoW'd by Muscovy/Denmark and get rimmed

What am I missing? Like why is Sweden good?
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Has HOI4 had any decent mods/bug fixes/improvements yet?
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>>147234487
Because they are in good position to fuck shit up and they have great national buffs.
Muh Swedish steel
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how do i get rid of the depressed trait
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>>147234572
What shit do they fuck up? Legit question

Like, do you go east into the Novgorod node or west/south into trade nodes downstream?
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In HoI4, what are some good countries to boost fascist popularity in in an attempt to 'convert' them?

If you turn National Foci off, are all bets off and is anything equally likely, or will nations still be tipped slightly in favor of certain decisions?
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>>147234707
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>>147234650
exercise, accomplish something
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>>147234650
kys
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>>147234674
Get all of Scandinavia and then just go for German minors or Russia.

A good goal for Sweden is to make Baltic sea and internal sea.
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>>147234707
As a fascist New Persian Empire I started working on Colombia, Venezuela, Peru and Panama. About 100 divisions between them by 1943.

Panama I didn't get for soldiers though. I did it for military access for the other 3 to the Panama Canal, which they piled a hundred thousand soldiers into. America couldn't send a single ship through the canal from 1941 to 1954 when my war ended.

In Europe, the Republicans won so Germany invaded. Then Germany was wasting 70 fucking divisions watching the Portuguese border so I coup'ed Portugal to Fascism too
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Okay guys, I just downloaded DH and I don't know what's good about it. All the game looks the same as HoI2 with a few new techs and decisions. Is there anything I'm missing?
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>>147233854
From the mega link in the OP, a trojan I think
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Großdeutschland Ain’t free. The tree of German Weltpolitik gotta be litterd with the blood of frenchmen. The Führer aka Gefreiter Hitler ain't my leader. he is lowly soldier and probably jewish as well :DD. Hohenzollern and Kaiser, not Hitler and Kanzler, ok. Gott mit uns.
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>>147233024
Triumph des Willens
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>>147233024
Apocalypse Word War 1,2 / Stalin
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Should I continue this campaign?
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>>147234154
Fucking hell Japan, get your shit together! I've just declared war...
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>>147234674
Get independence
Unite scandinavia while taking innovative, quality, economic, and offensive ideas
Enjoy your spess muhrines with policies and national bonuses.

Sweden used to be easy mode because you could block straits with navies. It was literally horde money for the first few years, then build a fuckload of galleys, block the strait to sjealland, fuck norway and denmark, and take all your cores/claims in the deal.

Now because armies can ignore blockades if they control both sides of the strait it requires more diplomacy. Ideally denmark fucks up in an early war and you can pounce while they're weak.

Don't even try to fight muscovy before you have space marines or at least the first couple ideas, you might win, but you'll take more losses than you should. If you can break away early enough you can stomp novgorod though.
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>>147236412
>all dem greens
hnng
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>>147236646
Truly a commendable assault on the polish there my good sir.
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does anyone have that empire drawing meme pic
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Lads, if I were to start a new ironman game of CK2 now, will it be save compatible with the upcoming <SecretDLC> when it releases?
Or should I just wait until it releases?
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>>147233087
Lads?
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>>147237114
The next DLC will make the game even less fun than Conclave, so I'm not sure if you'll want to keep playing in the first place.
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>>147237114
No it won't be compatible
>Ironmeme
Why
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>>147237162
>he doesn't wait for HIP / CK2 to fix it all
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The Muslims are mad at me.
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>>147237162
I dont understand what paradox is trying to do.
>hey johann lets make all our games really fucking bad and boring
>be careful, I tried to make EU4 even worse but the community vetoed my no claim fabrication until 1600 idea.
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>>147237249
>not playing an overhaul mod

>>147237239
>China exploded
Every time
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>>147237249
>be careful, I tried to make EU4 even worse but the community vetoed my no claim fabrication until 1600 idea.
I remember how butthurt Johan got over that.
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>>147237178
>>147237229
>>147237307
>having enough self-control to stop yourself from cheating
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>>147237379
I dont even understand what he was trying to do with that. There is nothing to do in EU4 besides blob. Removing claim fabrication just makes the game about sitting around at speed 5 doing nothing for half the fucking game unless you want to no cb it.
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>>147237478
>unless you want to no cb it.
That's exactly what he wanted. He wanted people to no CB war.
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>>147237457
You really should though and it's not like Cheet AEngine cares about ironmeme, you can literally turn on Godmode and infinite Money / eternal 12/12/12 rulers through it if you feel like it

>>147237379
What the fuck was the point of that? It's not like he was adding anything to do like MEIOU does nor adding alternative CBs.
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>>147237162
I actually think it looks alright, have you seen the new maimed traits? Looking forward to that.

>>147237178
>Ironmeme
Never tried it before, thought I would give it a go.
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>>147236768
Thank you. They are a considerable challenge.
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Morocco is actually colonising this game. Only other time I saw them do this was when they colonised Canada. Moroccan Canada ended up getting independence, full-annexing Canada, and forming Canada.
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>>147237536
Fucking why though?
Back in those days people had a reason to go to war. Some of the reasons were really shitty but they still had reasons.
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I can appoint female stewards in ck2 (hip mod) wtf is this
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>>147237629
He said it's because that's how it was in EU3.
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>>147237619
The morocco thing is interesting but mother of fuck that europe would make me quit.
Nice believable world Johan.
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Looks like it's the end of the Aragonese Empire.
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>>147237605
t. HoI4 German AI
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>>147237763
What meme mod?
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>>147237619
In the new versions nations aren't locked into defined ideas anymore so weird nations can actually end up colonizing.
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>>147237837
None.
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>>147237686
>that's how it was in EU3
>actually fix EU4 by this point, mess up mainly in the mana and '''development'''' department and partially the meme "core" and "culture" mechanics but otherwise a superior game to EU3
>multiplayer balance bullshit edges its way in
>now want to ruin the few things it does better than EU3

>>147237763
lmao what the fuck
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>>147237852
Moroccan Canada actually happened over a year ago.
>>147237881
The world is fucked in this playthrough.
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>>147237925
new is a very relative term
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>>147237763
>polkadot castille

>>147237837
That shit looks like vanilla
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>>147237950
>That shit looks like vanilla
>tfw already forgot how vanilla EU4 looked
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>>147238012
I was going off it looking buttugly actually
Haven't played anything but MEIOU and VeF forever
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Kek why is this game so memey, why are literally all my children geniuses?

Somebody stop this Armenian nightmare before it's too late.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rcc7xgD2dM
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>it's a crisis dies in 5 seconds episode
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>>147238358
Did you really delete it or something
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After 20 hours of HoI4 I have found all possible scenarios.

>Axis loses every game
>Japan has a 50% chance to take China
>after Axis is dead, Soviet invades
>if the US is allied, Soviet lose
>if the US is not involved, Soviet will take Europe

That's it. I haven't seen anything remotely fun scenario happen so far. No country has turned from Democratic to Fascists. The AI doesn't stage coups or anything.

It's this exact same scenario over and over again.
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>>147238386
Nope.
But i did find the culprit... Charles Joseph Essie ?
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>>147238583
It looks to me like he simply added the section
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>>147238607
So where is the original section then
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>>147238667
No as in it didn't even exist, there wasn't a >1945 -> present
Section before he explicitly added it, it ended at "under Nazi Germany".
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>>147238693
So Germans stopped being a nation after 1945?
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>>147238776
>having a nation means you also have nationalism
Pretty sure expressions nationalism in Germany are almost taboo
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>>147232729
(You)ing this post
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>>147238850

Nah, Germans love Germany. They hate Nazi-Germany though.
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>>147238776
That hat is a pretty obvious knock-off.
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Where is the Hoi4 mod?
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>>147238972
>Americans will reply every time
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>>147236646
What is the best arrangement of ships I should send in to annihilate this fleet /gsg/?
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>>147238897
>Germans love Germany
is that why they're filling the the country with muzzies
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>>147239114

>muzzies

Just write Muslims you goddamn britbong.

And Germany is filled with refugees because there's a crapton of wars and shit going on in the middle-east.
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>>147239224
>And Germany is filled with refugees because there's a crapton of wars and shit going on in the middle-east.
...that doesn't make it any better, esp. since they're not integrating and living off the backs of actual citizens AND apparently get priority for welfare AND commit crimes but aren't punished.
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Was the "Taiping Heavenly Kingdom" China's ISIS?
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>>147239224
Germany is filling it's country with muslims because they love the sand nigger dick.

That doesn't mean there isn't german nationalism though.
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>>147239343
Pretty much.

>>147239378
>they
*Merkel
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>>147239378
>German nationalism
>nationalism for a meme country
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>>147239224
>wars that europe has nothing to do with means they have to bend over and take it in the ass from mudslimes

fuck off we fought crusaders to keep the fuckers out

>calling mudslimes muzzies means i'm a bong

close though ;^)
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>>147239343
yes
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>>147239378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpohOP-voQ0
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>>147238897
>Nah, Germans love Germany
No we don't. Having national pride is equal to being a nazi here, minus sport events of course. Only hardcore lefties still cry then.

>>147239224
>And Germany is filled with refugees because there's a crapton of wars and shit going on in the middle-east.
Northafrica is in the middle-east? Color me surprised.

>>147239272
A bit exaggerated but essentially right. Some local newspapers have reported of stories of people getting welfare cuts or being kicked out of social housing in favor of "refugees".

>>147239475
Best cuntry desu senpai m8 lad :^)


t. German
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>>147239054
>you have to be American to see that the font is completely different
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>>147239343
no
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Why does Iceland always pop out of Norway now?
>>147239343
ISIS follows Islam to the dot.
Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was following a Mormonism-tier fanfic of Christianity.
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>>147239494

>wars that europe has nothing to do with means they have to bend over and take it in the ass from mudslimes

Yes, that's how it works. You think Lebanon asked for the civil war in Syria? You think the average family living in Iraq minding their own business asked for Sunni or Shia death squads to come knocking on their door?
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>>147239635
>Yes, that's how it works. You think Lebanon asked for the civil war in Syria? You think the average family living in Iraq minding their own business asked for Sunni or Shia death squads to come knocking on their door?
They'd do well to integrate into the society that ISN'T obligated to let them in then and not cause problems.
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>>147239635
Did any of Middle East ask for USA to influence them until Arab Summer triggered?
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Reminder: Only 6% of the world's refugees are in Europe(INCLUDING TURKEY, which has the most). If you think Europe is "being overrun" you're delusional.
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>>147239635
most immigrants are economic migrants you fucking idiot
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>>147239494
>fuck off we fought crusaders to keep the fuckers out
You mean fought crusades?
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>>147239543
You mean people actually cry about Germans waving German flags in stadiums where the German team is playing?
Don't they realize every fucking event (not even exclude to sports) has people waving Venezuelan, Phillipine, Ukranian and Turkish flags even when it has literally absolutely nothing to do with them?
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>>147239813
Those people aren't white though
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>>147239712
this misses the point and deliberately exaggerates the argument

even if the percentage of refugees isn't exceptionally high, it is still enough to create a permanent presence within the host country that will grow stronger with time

look at jews in America - they came as refugees in relatively small numbers and now rule the country
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>>147239704
Yes?
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>>147239813
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>>147239845
Ukranians and half of Venezuelans are white tho
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>>147239891
t. Ukrainian
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>>147239083
It's just an absolute MESS right now
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>>147239813
Even merkel hates waving the german flag
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>>147239890

It's the exact same thing for Nordic countries.

It's all germanic people are forever deemed as racists if they wave their flag.
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>>147239813
>You mean people actually cry about Germans waving German flags in stadiums where the German team is playing?
Of course. This furthers nationalism and exclusion of non-ethnic Germans and as such should be banned and is evil.

Here, some fag broke off someones mini-flag from their car and left them a note saying how this causes nationalism and how the flag doesn't represent football or whatever but the German Identity (and of course implies that this is an inherently bad thing).

There's a more-or-less famous picture of a now important green politician (Claudia Roth) demonstrating in back in the GDR against the reunification and Germany as a whole ("Nie wieder Deutschland" - "Germany never again"), there's lots of short clips of higher up politicians from basically anywhere left of the CDU (Merkel) saying how Germany is shit and should be dissolved or something to that effect.
Germany needs to die so that Germans can live desu
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>>147237145
Guys pls
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>>147232981
Antonescu
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>>147239848
The point is there is a massive problem worldwide. Not some purposeful planned genocide of Europe by importing refugees. Instead of getting to the root of the problems, Europeans(and white nationalists in general) on this site just cry like bitches instead.
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>>147240023
>Norsk
>flags
You wot mate
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>>147239890
>>147239965
this is why the EU would be a good thing if it actually stood for europe and not islam, and didn't include shitholes like Greece and Romania
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>>147233072
That's one thing CK2+ does well for sure. Heresies and the like.
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>>147240124
fuck off mohamed
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>>147240124
again, you're deliberately exaggerating the opposition's arguments. maybe some retard on /pol/ thinks it's a planned genocide, but the vast majority of people who oppose accepting refugees don't believe that
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>>147240209
>first refugees come to Croatia yesterday
One of them is named Mohhamad
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>>147239632
>Why does Iceland always pop out of Norway now?

Because it's Norwegian revolter and Iceland is in fact in Europe meaning Norway gets rekt?
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>>147240249

No shit.
It's like bitching at some German guy being named Hans.
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>>147240126
Fuck?
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>>147240224

>maybe some retard on /pol/ thinks it's a planned genocide,

Like this triggered faggot :>>147240209 ?

>>147240224
Well I'd like to hear a reasonable opposition argument that actually addresses the problem, like actually blaming the US for causing all this shit instead of blaming the victims.
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>>147240319
Indeed. Or bitching when Brits are named Mohhamad

http://www.babycentre.co.uk/a25011625/top-baby-boy-names-2014
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Haven't played Crusader Memes for a year.
How do I have fun in this now?
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>>147239890
>redditball
>via 9gag.com
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>>147240370
Serbia here.
We blame USA for the migrant problems but nobody gives a shit. Its not like USA cares.

On the other hand we had a small party when UK left EU so i guess my neighbours arent very intelligent.
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>>147240370
>Well I'd like to hear a reasonable opposition argument that actually addresses the problem, like actually blaming the US for causing all this shit instead of blaming the victims.

6/10 migrants are economic migrants, explain how it's the west's fault for this? And nearly all the migrants are young men
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>>147240370
>Well I'd like to hear a reasonable opposition argument that actually addresses the problem
They need to integrate and stop causing problems for the societies they flood into.
Give them a free year to learn German and find jobs and shit. After that they're on their fucking own.
They need to be punished when they cause problems, they need to be shoved out of the country if they can't behave themselves.
If they can be civilized then no issue.
>US
Everyone knows it's the US's fault.
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>>147240443
>first picture off google since i knew the phrase
>autist nitpicking irrelevant stuff
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>>147240076
What was the point of fighting on, when this is what happened to the "winning side"?

Just...why, lads?

Why?
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>>147240473

>blaming the US

Wait, what?

>On the other hand we had a small party when UK left EU

There was nothing to celebrate about them leaving.
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>>147233087
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>>147240370
>US causes shit
>You decide to punish average German

I wonder who could be behind this post
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>>147240552
>

>>147240589
>not blaming the US
You fuckers literally detonated the Middle East.
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Will Merkel ban Overwatch?
>>147240589
>not blaming the cold war
If we just left them alone everything would be better by now. Just look at Morroco.
Also 9/11 is totally your fault since you created Osama during Afghanistan war in the first place.
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>>147240534

And most of that stuff is happening in Europe in general. And fuck, in plenty of countries the refugees get no help at all.

I don't mind refugees though. What I don't like are the asshole Somalians and north Africans that keep swarming the place.
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Fuck off back to /pol/ fags

Feel like playing EU4 with MEIOU, never played EU4 before, what's a good start?
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>>147240370
>instead of blaming the victims.
The victims are everyday Germans fuckwit.
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>>147240635
>>147240612

It's OK, when Hillary Clinton is president she will accept responsibility and take in all the refugees
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>>147240704
>take in all the refugees
Yeah, all 15k of them. USA will literally take one chug outta the barrel and get the fuck out.
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>>147240076
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>>147240695
Try playing as Ming in the earliest start (1356), it'll give you a good overview of some of the new shit (like autoflipping provinces during certain wars like reconquest)
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>>147240695
MEIOU is an awful mod don't play it, and EU4 is an awful game
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>>147240076
>Here, some fag broke off someones mini-flag from their car
Is this shit bad?
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>>147240473
>Its not like USA cares.

Agreed, because the EU hasn't addressed the problem as a whole.

>>147240474
>6/10 migrants are economic migrants Economic migrants can't qualify for refugee status. So that's internal migration policies, not a refugee problem(aside from the common connection being a destabilized middle east, which is undeniably America's fault).

>>147240534
Thank you. I can support this.

>>147240612
Germany is free to leave the UN anytime :^)
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>>147240635

>You fuckers literally detonated the Middle East.

What? The US isn't even responsible for half the shit that's going on. If you want to blame someone then blame France and UK for fucking it up back when they had colonies and decided to draw borders without looking at who lived there. The US is only holding the rope because it was given by britbongs and frogs.

It's not like anyone can leave that goddamn quagmire now anyway without a ton of militants taking over.
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>>147240873
What?

UN isn't forcing Germany to do anything.

Certain interest groups pushing mass migration to Germany is a problem for average german.
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>>147240865
Or rather I meant to say, is that even legal?

>>147240779
>implying
The only thing bad about it is being slow as fuck.

>>147240884
>back when they had colonies
Pre-Arab Spring and arguably pre-Bushwars ME were precarious but still "stable". Not anymore.
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How do Christians reconcile their beliefs with the shittiness of their countries?
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>>147240873
>because the EU hasn't addressed the problem as a whole
Indeed, EU should have addressed it 30 years ago when you started shitting up the middle east.
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>>147240946
>The only thing bad about it is being slow as fuck.
Yes, that's a bad thing. You shouldn't play a mod that doesn't run.
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>>147238776
It's note even the right fucking color c'mon man
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>>147241065
CK2 doesn't run either and people play it
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>>147240884
>The US isn't even responsible for half the shit that's going on
Except it is. Your world "policing" after cold war ended caused 10 times as much trouble as USSR would ever have. Its like letting half-retarded Brit offspring nation to play Imperialism.
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>>147240967
ah yes the extremely shitty countries of Australia, Chile, Argentina, South Korea, Uruguay, Malta, Costa Rica, Panama and Cyprus
rest rightfully belongs to le bin though
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>>147240946
>Or rather I meant to say, is that even legal?
Of course not, it's damaging somebody elses property.

Not that anybody cares, of course.
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>>147241182
It's their own fault for not having enough freedom
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>>147240873

>Agreed, because the EU hasn't addressed the problem as a whole.

The EU has tried several times now to portion up the refugees to make sure everyone takes a equal burden, but then you get like Romania and Serbia throwing a hissy fit.

And refugees are not the same as the nigger migrants from N.Africa. Refugees can stay because they fuck off back to their own country when the war is over.
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What would've happened if this mad man was allowed to nuke China?
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>>147240884
This was Iran in 1970

I'll let you guess how women dress now
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>>147241182
t. buttblasted European trying to offload the blame for their own fuck-ups in the middle east
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>>147241420
Well all that "freedom war budget" USA is packing over the years will fuck us all over once another Great Depression pops. Lets hope credit bubbles wont pop.
>>147241449
Toys would be expensive.
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>>147241449
The US would be in even deeper shit because not enough loans.
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>>147241437
>they fuck off back to their own country when the war is over
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>>147241437
Lol
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>>147241449
We would be in poverty because no cheap chinese goods
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>>147241437
There's so much wrong with this post
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>>147241449
Worldwide Pax Americana
Subjugation of Europe to American hegemony
A Golden Age for the white race for the next 1000 years
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>>147241473
That's one part of one developed city in Iran. If you stepped outside of Tehran, it would look exactly the same then as it does today,
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>>147241437
You do realise that the ones in north africa are also fleeing civil wars right?
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>>147241437
>Refugees can stay because they fuck off back to their own country when the war is over.
Fuck?
>portion up
Why the fuck are you portioning them? They get a CHANCE, not a guarenteed shelter. Nations have a duty to their own people, not people halfway across the world.
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>>147241473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX4RK8bj2W0

>hijab wearing used to sound ridiculous back then
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>>147241572
>A Golden Age for the white race for the next 1000 years
The Chinese and Japanese are the only people as a whole at this point who detest the niggers and arabs at this point though
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>>147241449
Lot's of gooks would be fried
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>>147241613
Nations have a duty to the global population as well, most nations kinda agreed to do it there's lots of conventions and treaties about it, you don't get to have a hissy fit when you say that you got someone's back and then they actually ask you to lend a hand.
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>>147241437
>Serbia throwing a hissy fit
We did what? Nobody asked us to take any refugees and we let them pass through unlike Magyars and Croats.
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>>147241609
I think you need some kind of civilization to call it a civil war

>>147241742
Kill yourself
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>>147241782
>waaah, why are we being held to treaties we signed.
>I want all the take but none of the give.
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>>147241572
>m-muh whiteness m-muh greatness
>60%
>2nd world economy
>ran by jews with private companies on their names
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>>147241742
Jidf go and stay go
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>>147241473

Nigga, the Shah was corrupt as fuck and sold out his country and oil to the UK. When they get a secular and democratic politican who was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED, the UK and US have him ousted because he wanted the oil profits to go to Iran instead of the UK.

Seriously, Iran has plenty of reasons to hate the US.

Khomenei is a faggot though. Should have gone with a secular society instead.
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>USA hates Muslim fundamentalists
>quarter of USA pops are Christian fundamentalists themselves
>evolution is false communism everywhere hurrr
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http://www.greek-genocide.net/index.php/quotes/testimonies/324-panayiotis-nikolaidis
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>>147241742
>Nations have a duty to the global population as well
Not over their native populations imbecile.
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>>147241750

>unlike Magyars and Croats.

It's been like 20 years or something and you cunts still hate eachother.

What the fuck is wrong with the Balkans.
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>>147241473
>>147241641
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>>147241953
>When they get a secular and democratic politican who was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED, the UK and US have him ousted because he wanted the oil profits to go to Iran instead of the UK.
So basically the US and UK stirred shit up.
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Hearts of Panzers may be getting an update. Don't expect much, though.

Current version:
>http://www.moddb.com/mods/hearts-of-panzers/
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>>147241473
can you blame iran for not wanting to be cucked like you are?
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>>147241845
>eu countries except cuckden and cuckmany don't want economic migrants
>merkel wants them because of germany's low birthrate (no she does not give a fuck about the migrants don't delude yourself)
>hey we'll take a million of you!
>they start illegally crossing every country along the way
>enter germany en mass
>o-oops we can't actually handle them haha we're closing the border deal with them yourselves
>we still have too much i know we'll forcefully redistribute them to other countries
>hmm they aren't taking enough in i know we'll try passing a law that says you have to pay hundred of thousands if you refuse a migrant

go fuck yourself
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>>147242119
Why would you expect anything from a bunch of Weebs
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>>147241437
>Refugees can stay because they fuck off back to their own country when the war is over.
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>>147242119
Why do you keep posting this if you're just going to get shouted at? t. uses it.
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Somebody posted some VIC2 mods on Thursday can they be reposed please.
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>>147241705
>Turks and Brazilians are the only socially acceptable immigrants in Japan
wew
Both are still better than Americans though
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>>147241953
>Middle East wants to sell oil for gold Currency
>Gaddafi wants to establish it
>wrecked
>Saddam wants to establish it
>what could possibly go wrong

>>147242039
Well Croats are special little snowflakes and cannot deal with themselves being mundane south slavs like rest of Balkans. Everyone else calmed down.
Magyars hate Balkans since World War splitting.
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>>147241962
>people don't hate their own religion
>modern islam and modern christianity is the same
rly made me think...
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>>147242163
>economic migrants

There is one major group of economic migrants and they keep getting sent back because they're from Kosovo.
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>>147242229
>implying
The Japanese hate literally everyone who isn't Japanese, detest extremist liberals and the wave of ACCEPTANCE in the west, are completely non-feminist (or rather have the good type that actually just wants them to be able to do what they want and isn't against "sexualization" and certainly isn't revisionist). They hate Chinese and Koreans too but it's harder to tell who's who on a glance but if you look different they HATE you.
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>>147242275
Wont work.
Shia and Shiite are both muslims yet they will kill each other over 13 century old dynastic dispute
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>>147242320
Jesus Christ you're deluded.
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>>147242320
Ayyy
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>>147242320
"refugees" don't even make up half of the migrants lad
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>>147242332
You know literally nothing about Japan. Have you even spoken to a Japanese person that wasn't on 4chan?
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>>147242412
He got his diploma on japanese culture from /a/, fuck off
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>>147242320
>Kosovo
>economic migrants
Protip -native Albanians find Kosovars barbaric and disgusting
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>>147242412
He's not really wrong, he's just exaggerating a lot.
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>>147242332
t. retarded weeb that speaks to /pol/ english teachers in japan
get out of your house retard
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>>147242332
I used to think the whittu piggu go homu thing was just a meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uC4AUyju7k

>>147242320
This is your brain on cultural marxism
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>>147242518
Those are neo-nazis
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>>147241705
>>147242332
>hates whites
>claims they're not cucks
you have to go back
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>>147242375
I hate to break it to you, but it's 37% syria, 19% afghanistan, 12% iraq.

You know what those 3 countries have in common? it's war.
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>>147242601
Does Japan have neo-nazis?
Shouldnt they be called neo-imperialists or something?
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>>147242486
I know a guy who worked at the Australian Embassy in Japan, and had his kids go to school there for several years.

They don't have blatant, naked racism, but there's certainly a significant resistance to the idea of ever accepting someone non-native as Japanese.
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>>147242601
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>>147242646
Everyone I know that's ever lived in Japan has always said all they care about is if you can speak competent Japanese, and aren't an asshole.

Most westerners fail at the not being an asshole part.
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>>147242646
So they have healthy opinions on nationality? Good to hear.
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Boy, I sure do love video games
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>>147242852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2FGgYp6mdk

We do too. Here you go.
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How was Japan during the CK2 timeframe?
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>>147242954
It varied a lot, it went from being something you would barely recognise to something resembling what people know of thanks to the tons of Sengoku era stuff IIRC.
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>>147242817
You can (and he did) live there fine and make friends and have your children get a decent education and be an accepted member of society.

You just won't ever quite be Japanese.

>>147242824
Pretty much, it's painted as naked xenophobia by idiots and people ideologically opposed to the idea of ethnic nationalism.
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>>147241449
There was a really good post I read about this exact scenario which basically said that nuking China would turn every Chinese citizen passionately against the Americans and for the PRC so when the PRC gets its act together their single greatest goal is to fuck up the Americans' shit continually and forever
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I uh, I don't think this is a good thing.

I was wondering why I was taking so many casualties fighting a Chinese minor and uh, I think I became Russia, only without the whole giant thing.

Am I fucked?
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>>147242954
Literally nigger tier
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>>147243171
So basically white to Japanese is what a Jew is to pre-nazi German?
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>>147243196
That didn't happen with Japan though
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>>147243228
>infantry equipment equipment

nice
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>>147243243
Complete with big nose and material wealth, usually.
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>>147243228
Literally how
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