/ss13g/
- Home
- Board: /vg/ - Video Game Generals
- Reading: /ss13g/
Last time on /ss13g/
>SS13 Doom .WAD on the works, and it looks great
>Pomf is, according to self, a Spineless Cool Cluck™
>Moths
>Everything will be fire.
>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc
>New player guide
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/General_Help
>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/
>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server, running a vote script to change maps at round end.
byond://ss13.undo.it:7777
>Test server
byond://ss13.nexisonline.net:1336
>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13
>Forum, ban list and logs for vgstation
http://ss13.pomf.se/forum/
http://ss13.pomf.se/index.php/bans
http://ss13.undo.it/logs/
>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"
>Map renders collection: updated nightly
http://ss13.nexisonline.net/img/map-renders/
>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation
>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/
>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o [Embed x100]
>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/wa9fnYbg
I hate you all
im drunk
THE PIANO HAS BEEN DRINKING
Fourth for awesome adminbus
>>125830261
NOT ME
:3 antag when?
they could be memetic and spead to other people by :3ing and hugging
>>125830161
:3
> In nuclear fusion, there are two types of reactors stable enough to conduct fusion: magnetic confinement reactors and inertial confinement reactors. The former method of fusion seeks to lengthen the time that ions spend close together in order to fuse them together, while the latter aims to fuse the ions so fast that they do not have time to move apart. Inertial confinement reactors, unlike magnetic confinement reactors, use laser fusion and ion-beam fusion in order to conduct fusion. However, with magnetic confinement reactors you avoid the problem of having to find a material that can withstand the high temperatures of nuclear fusion reactions.The heating current is induced by the changing magnetic fields in central induction coils and exceeds a million amperes. Magnetic fusion devices keep the hot plasma out of contact with the walls of its container by keeping it moving in circular or helical paths by means of the magnetic force on charged particles and by a centripetal force acting on the moving particles
Jesus christ, the RUST engine actually works kind of that way. A mix of both methods. I wish I had read that before building my RUST, would have helped understand what the fuck I was doing.
>>125830194
Me too anon
>>125830376
(´･ω･`)
>>125830376
> :3 ON STATION, EVERYONE, INJECT BICARODYNE.
>>125830376
dragons when
>>125830631
rrerr
>>1258300373
I was thinking some kind of gravitation to light sources. Or even just randomizing the direction you move if you are too close to a light.
>>125830376
i sometimes say :3 and ^.^unironicallyand i like it
Anyone else's byond client fucking up after this latest update?
>>125830697
Better yet, do BOTH
Since I'm taking a week off spess and need to motivate myself to finish some sprites I'm taking requests to get in the mood.
>>125830958
More non-humanoid borg sprites please.
If not, roller skates.
>>125830958
some hype drawings for the snowmap
>>125830958
HoS with a shotgun and a bandoleer surrounded by a bunch of dead wizards doing the "Are you not entertained?"
>>125831071
>roller skates.
>>125830475
i want to spess but i don't want to fuck up
>>125830049
That is a good point. Well, they drink nectar so how about drinks restore nutriment?
>>125831175
I just wanted to play asFatman
WISE FWOM YOUW GWAVE
>>125830376
For real though this could work right?
people would have to take off their headsets and throw away their pdas least they be infected and have to avoid reading things both physical and digital just in case
besides, memetic things are fucking horrifying on their own
the fact that it looks innocent makes it worse:3
>>125831282
>Slipping while wearing roller skates does three times as much damage and makes you slip further.
>>125830958
a pair of long johns with a butt flap
That wiz got robusted.
>>125830958
nonhuman sprites for horror form ling
>>125830958
Scarves. You know, for your neck
Also, if the week off is because of that medbay incident, you really shouldn't sweat the small stuff
>>125830085
>>Moths
I don't get why people keep bringing this up AND NOT GETTING THE TITLE RIGHT
>>125830958
Sexy cyborgs.
Many sexy cyborgs. Maybe even the legendary Booty Borgs.
I hope I was annoying enough Wizard kun.
I decided a plasmaflood wasn't nearly as annoying as just making random shit go tits up.
>>125831331
>guy with a hardsuit covered in spikes wearing earmuffs and a blindfold walking around the station to avoid infection
>he is the only one who survives
>>125831467
piss off
>>125831437
This, so much. I want some comfy scarvesto make my special snowflake look prettier.
>that one sec officer that goes afk in the middle of the hallways
>that guy who goes afk in the hallway without his intent on help
>that group of people that dickride a friendly wizard
>>125831481
You were annoying, thank you!
>>125831462
What's wrong with the title?
>>125831489
>what is dogpiling
>>125831535
>that one guy in a hardsuit who pushes you out of the way when you're trying to run away from a fire and not die
>>125831261
Sounds goodYou should make the sprite less skinny thoughIt looks really weird
>>125831830
>in crit or at red health
>desperately trying to get to safety or medbay
>asshole with harm intent just rams you the fuck back to thirty tiles
>trying to heal yourself
>halfway across the station from medbay
>guy drags you completely away from your medicine and causes you to die on the way there
>>125832058
I didn't make the sprite, but I was thinking the same thing. I want them to be less defined so people will notsexualize them.
Braxton Hutton, I want to help you be a better officer.
When you arrested me you didn't say a word, which is fine. But then when we got to brig you continued to not say anything. Then searched my bag and found an assembly frame which you assumed I stole from tech storage, which it isn't, and confiscated it. It's bought with coins off the assembly machine in tool storage. You could have found this out if you had bothered to talk with me before sentencing.
You correctly charged me with the crime of breaking and entering but you sentenced me to 8 minutes. Maximum sentence for breaking and entering is 5 minutes. Also for minor crimes to don't strip people naked and put them in orange jumpsuits.
If you had interviewed me you would have found my reasoning which was that the AI was subverted and shocking doors. I broke in to try and get the gloves. I hope to see you play sec more in the future because the station needs good sec players. And I hope you take the time to talk to people more often.
Gay Celt is canon
>>125832346
People will sexualize ANYTHING.
I mean shit, the very fact that vore is a fetish should tell you that.
>>125829994
>>125831261
Let's brainstorm moths and how they would work in the game.
>they require pure oxygen or they choke and die
>just has a strap that takes up a suit slot that only holds a large o2 tank
>because of that, they are not spaceproof, no free spacesuit
>spacesuits slow them down IMMENSELY due to protecting against both heat and cold
>moths are more prone to temperature, for better or worse
>they move slower in cold temps, cold rooms are death to them
>they move faster in higher temps, though, so warmed rooms would work for them
>BUT IF THE ROOM IS ON FIRE AND HOT, oh boy, they are dead and take tons of damage because burns
>lasers work well on them because burn damage
>nutriment doesn't feed them, just sugar. works for blood (blood?), sure, but not hunger
>because they are huge insects, they get hungry faster
>they need to wear special goggles to protect their eyes or they immediately go blind from artificial lights
>the goggles don't protect against flashes or welding, etc. since the bright light goes through the goggles and ruins their eyes
They'd be like a reverse Diona.
Instead of carrying a ton of lights and chugging hyperzine like a powergaming Diona, they just want to sit in the dark of maint munching candy and chili.
Red slime extract making slime mutation potion when injected with plasma and slime glycerol when injected with water when?
Light pink slime making a bottle of sentience potion when injected with plasma and a docility potion that works on more mobs when injected with sugar when?
Sepia slimes not being useless when?
Bandoliers adding ammo slots on the side of the screen WHEN
>>125831584
It ain't spessmen on a spess station
>>125832346
Before you continue, stop. Don't use a name. It adds nothing to the conversation, you are trying to force your figure into this. We don't need more namefags. Opinions aside, just post as anonymous.
>>125832408
You didn't say a thing, so I assumed that you gave up while caught red-handed both breaking and entering and stealing two items.
People regularly break down the windows even if they commit a minor crime, I prefer to strip them from anything that could break the glass.
If you spoke out and gave your reasoning, I might have let you go since around that time it was known that a wizard went into the AI.
Regardless, I killed the wizard with Mai Pai and an unknown tech crewman by harmbatoning the wizard to death.
>>125832734
When you code it you FUCK
Mushroom men when?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZZP3Cqi7Lk
>>125832690
They sound like the most chill race we could add. I imagine we will get a ton of Botanist hippie moths making dank and passing it around. I think pacifism might be included in the lore too. And I do think they should have an overall faster walk to offset all the negatives they have, explained by the wings maybe? That would also help to explain by the spacesuit hurts their movements so much, since they can't use the wings in it.
>>125833205
why the spacesuit*
>>125833205
Faster walk speed sounds good.They also need to be able to make angry moth noises. Maybe sugar could help a bit with healing ? So many negatives
>>125833427
There is addiction in the game right? Why not soda can heal them but they have a high chance of addiction? And angry moth noises are a given.
>>125833427
>angry moth noises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efyufhtO7VU
maybe they could scare off animals with it?
>>125833523
I would love to see moths getting addicted to things like soda and candy bars.
>>125833583
SMASH IT
SMASH THAT MONSTER
>>125833664
MOTH TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES
>>125832951
I didn't "give up" because I wasn't resisting. It's known in the security world as "cooperating" and a situational modifier which should reduce sentencing.
>>125827143
Cool, now sprite clothes for them. All existing clothes must be supported.
It's weird that you could take so many animals, make it an alien race and have it be creative and fun
Except birds
Why are vox are so fucking lame
>>125833583
Kawaii.
>>125833649
Sugar water restores nutriment and heals a little brute or Suffication while soda heals like Tricord and has a 40% chance of addiction?
>>125833993
That's bullshit and you know it.
Most shit doesn't fit on Vox precisely to avoid this.
>>125833993
Nex, clearly spurdos are the superior choice
PROS
+Lore
+Clothing compatible
+Handsome
+Special language
+Original /vg/ content
Cons:
-None
>>125833787
Fair enough.
But still, you should have stood up for yourself and defended yourself.
Or at least say one word.
>>125834040
Perfect. All moths need to be addicted to soda if they drink it more than a few times
>>125833205
Oh yeah, the wings. No suits because of wings or just really awful slow movement because the wings get in the way. Maybe an orderable conversion kit from Cargo.
Faster base move speed and maybe the wings help them balance and a chance to instantly recover from a lucky disarm so they are like insect ninjas.
They probably would be chill botanists, but would focus on being xenobotanists in the backroom of botany or the research outpost. Always looking for the perfect plant, making dank sugarcane-chili hybrids that churn out oxygen and only grow in the dark.
>>125834110
I desperately hope that no one legitimately wants Spurdos in the game
>>125834110
Cons:
- Would invite reddit, who are currently swarming over spurdos, and we all know how you children handle even the mere whisper of Reddit
- They are covered in hair, thus totally furry
- They are going to invite the same shitters as Skeletons.
>>125834145
See this is my point. Stood up against what? You have to make accusations before I can defend myself. If charges are never presented verbally then I cannot defend myself. Remember I can't hear sec channels or read security records.
>>125834312
You could have explained the situation.
>>125834275
Nexis knows what reddit likes
Nexis is from reddit.
Ban nexis
>>125834246
Yeah I am thinking most will save a can of soda on them for emergencies and assistants will push them and feed them soda for the hell of it. It should make lots offun.
>>125834267
I think a small chance to ignore slips would be better, since the wings probably wouldn't help them with being pushed over while the wings could help them keep their balance. Maybe 20%?
>>125833993
Pretty sure the idea was that they wouldn't wear clothing.
>>125834534
Oh my god
what if they don't speak common and can only speak and understand a special moth talk
>>125834557
That's okay then
>>125834609
They'd be literal-carpet-munching MoMMIs, then.
>>125834609
No.
>>125834731
>literal-carpet-munching MoMMIs
This is adorable.
>>125834849
MoMMIs are faggots
Vampire moths are a thing by the way
>>125834896
You are a faggot.
I'd fuck a moth.
>>125834609
They should have a moth language(I've already written it in the lore)but they should be able to squeak out common.
>>125834534
>chance to avoid slips
>Moth clown is the the most unfunny clown ever
>Moth janitor has a conflict of interests since they get no-slip galoshes and have to replace lights
>>125834609
>Angrymothnoises as their only language
>Even silicons wouldn't understand them
>Moth chef is now the new Swedish Chef
>>125834982
I don't break laws and ignore my job, so nah
>>125835053
>They should have a moth language
But why?
>>125835053
Oh ! They could speak common but make the text tiny
>>125834275
>same shitters as skeletons
Except skeleton shitters were refined shitters. They shit up the server but also made sure everyone had fun with their shittery.
>>125834275
Add spurdos 4 shitters and leave skeletons at roundstart again
>>125834896
Moths are even more faggots
>>125835053
>>125835137
Or they have to speak Tradeband/Gutter to actually talk to non-moths, giving people more of a reason to ensure they picked a second language in character setup.
>still no moth race
What is this servers paranoia with adding new races and ideas?
>vox don't start on the vox station
>dead players can't become vox
>mfw humans don't have to build a wall to keep vox from immigrating and slowly ruining their station
>no centcomm pushing diversity quotas undermining strong human values
Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmoa13TG2TY
>>125835450
What the fuck do you think all this discussion is for?
>>125835450
that would be fun, we hate fun.
>no epic greentext about nudeops
:^(
>>125835582
it wasn't really that cool
>>125835064
>even moths can't understand Angrymothnoises
>its just a way for them to vent about being pacifists on a station of assholes
>>125835137
I like that. Though I don't know if that is getting a little too snowflake. >>125835358 might be nice.
>>125835097
Because Diona do, why not moths? At least angry squeaks make more sense then creaking plants.
>>125835450
Velard was going to do that but he became insane.
>>125835663
Diona actually speak by fucking radio waves and heat.
Bay lore is bizarre.
>>125835680
Velard was always insane
>>125835909
What happened to Velard? Didn't he have all these changes planned, like podbays, vampire changes, gulagstation. wasn't machinecult his baby?
>>125835738
That is pretty neat actually, I would have said pollen or something but then speaking in Diona would be ERP.
>>125836025
He threw a hissy fit over racism or something
>>125835663
>angrymothsay: nigga just chill the fuck out I'm just trying to drink some fucking soda and here you are being an asshole like always
>everyone hears it as: ^*^^*^&**oi$#%^vhgjDSFHasy566))*&&^%#
>*aflap *aflap
I did a thing.
>>125836025
WHITE BOYS ARE THE SOURCE OF ALL PROBLEMS
YOU JUST
DON'T
UNDERSTAND
EVERYTHING IS PERSECUTION
>>125836142
>>125836241
No fucking way. Poor guy.
>>125836172
>angrymothsay: nigga just chill the fuck out I'm just trying to drink some fucking soda and here you are being an asshole like always
>everyone hears it as: Eeeee EEeeeeeeee Eeee Eee Eeee!
>*angrymoth *angrymoth
>vox
>birds that talk like they have brain damage
>lizard men
>argonians
>tajaran
>khajiits
>greys
>okay
>dionas
>kinda interesting
>plasma men
>also kinda interesting but not really
i don't understand
Fucking shitfuck, holidays are the worst time of the year.
Don't add a race whose entire thing is being cute, it's just asking for it to be played exclusively by faggots.
WHY ADD MOTHS WHEN YOU CAN FUCKING ADD DORFS THAT MAKE MUCH MORE SENSE AND WONT GET FAGGOTED INTO OBLIVION, FUCKING WAKE UP HOLY MOLY
>>125836764
If they're cute and fragile they won't be a problem.
>>125836880
Dorfs are already a thing you FAG
How about we STOP adding new races
>>125836880
Just cut off your legs, grow a beard, hit things with a pickaxe and drink booze all the time
>>125835450
people hate fun or trying new things here
>>125836241
So he did the middle class chimpout thing and tumblr'd himself.
Nice.
Last one before I sleep - airlocks and other doors are now implemented along with basic access, complete with fancy sounds and animations. Works like a charm.will add atmos leaks later if possible
>>125837284
But that picture doesn't make sense
>>125837050
I'd prefer if we stopped adding races after we add a proper android race
>>125837284
Yup. He went full vegan. You can't talk to him for more than five minutes without him bringing it up. Talk to him about video games and he will tell you how video games are a tool for white oppression or some shit
lizardmen playable when
>>125837481
Fucking this
Why don't we have androids
And not that stupid "tv for heads" thing that Bay has
>>125837459
Can you make them work properly? IE if you open them you get sucked the fuck out unless it's cycled?
>>125837481
What happened, man. I liked Velard. Even though he was a shit, he was a lovable shit, like Duny.
You have to have guys like him to balance out the chillness of elim/niggles/deadpoo
>>125837678
he could honestly be living the shitpost memedream like 2hotdogs, but I don't think he's that dedicated.
http://ss13.pomf.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2230&p=8353#p8353
Reminder, mean jokes are a bannable offense now
STICKYBANS
>>125837964
POMF FUCK IM NOT 2HOTDOGS
>>125837613
Maybe when we get machine-man interfaces working.
So never.
FUCK, THEY'RE ONTO ME
DRAGONBROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
STICKYBANES ARE SENTIENT AGAIN WHOOP WHOOP
SERB DED
>>125837964
WELL THE ENTIRE SERVER GOT BANNED
GREAT WORK DRAGONBRO
FUCKING GOOD JOB
>>125837678
Pomf disliked him. Pomf himself had a full folder of nignogs running from the police hosted on the server. Maybe he changed the location, maybe I lost the link.
You can still see him rarely, posting without trip, and maybe if you spoy him correctly he'll show his true color
POMF, THE STICKYBANS HAVE BECOME SELF-AWARE AGAIN
oh, thank fuck I'm not the only one. That gave me a heart attack.
>>125837613
>wanting to be an autism crab grayshit without the laws or ventcrawl
>intense janitor action
>hilarious mime antics
>and then stickybans
DRAAGOOONNNBRROOOOO
>>125837678
>I liked Velard
Literally why?
Dude was an overemotional, insufferable prick.
>>125838118
same lol, when is this gonna be resolved?
What the fuck just happened?
>>125838201NEVER
should we appeal this ban or will it be resolved soon?
>>125838193I think I just like shitposting (he was great at it) too much. I didn't know much about him anyway./spoiler]
No Bully, seriously.
http://pastebin.com/Z0fgMibj
>>125838304
Appeal obviously
>>125838304
appeal it
>>125838401
>thinking anyone ever cared about lore on this serb
>>125838401
Kinda like it.
We DO need more lore.
This has gone too far, it's time toUNBAN 2HOTDOGS
>>125838440
>>125838469
It just resolved for me. Try relogging again.
>>125838193
Wasn't the meaning of his name that "Velard" and "Amarkar" were two gods that lived inside his brain and commanded him to do things, one god was good and one god was bad and some other crazy schizo shit?
This is angelite by the way
>>125837626
Possibly. The Doom engine has internal code for pushing/pulling actors in arbitrary directions based on arbitrary conditions. It'd probably require some extra scripts, though, so it's a bit down the priority list.captcha: wheelchairs. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?
>>125838401
Looks great. They should not be a invasive species because of the whole moth part.
>>125838367
To each their own, I suppose.
You like big crybabies who make a big stink, I on the other hand do not.
>>125838557
Something like that.
>>125838548
#freetheweiner
>>125838401
Shoo.
Get the hell out of here with this faggotry.
>>125838843
>>125838843
i would
>>125839004
Beat them with hammers? I agree.
so, spacemen, who /goinghome/ here? http://www.clickhole.com/video/home-holidays-8-high-school-friends-you-always-run-1635
>>125838537
I was told I would not get the sprites until I made the lore. No one will follow it so it's not like it matters much
>>125838538
I like having some kind of lore. It helps in RPing, which probably means its not really for /vg/ but fuck every other server.
>>125838638
Well, moth larva are pretty invasive. I guess I should change it to say invasive moth larva.
>>125838870No.
Velard is a cool guy
Yes, he gets to militant about race and shit and does it in 4chan which is the absolute wrong place for it, but he's a genuinely nice and interesting dude
>>125831282
EAT AND GROW FAT
>>125839170
>he's a genuinely nice and interesting dude
>>125839147
>I like having some kind of lore. It helps in RPing
What is this, comedy hour in /ss13g/?
>>125832951
>Explain yourself
>hurr got a dindunuffin here, lock 'em up and throw away the key, boys
>Don't say anything
>durr must have given up
And you people wonder
>>125839147
Royally Fuck Off
>>125839425
No, this is cancer awareness week
54 players at afternoon
>>125839425
>not liking MedRP
>>125839663
Ah yes. Med RP. The Med RP that controls the way I roleplay like a natsee. That one. Fuck that one.
>>125838401
>they're a science experiment
lame
>they learned to farm and fish
why?
they have no mouths
>>125840146
That...is a good point. Farm maybe to make the soda they love but they can't eat fish. And I think if I leave it as they evolved naturally that would mean cockroach and beetle races exist, since all bugs would get bigger in that environment.
>>125840509
>that would mean cockroach and beetle races exist, since all bugs would get bigger in that environment.
and?
maybe only they work on the station because of they're naivety NT can just pay them in sugary things and they won't freak out as many people
>>125840818
I feel like if all insects were turned into humanoids moths would be one of the first to be wiped out. They don't really have any defenses.
>>125840509
It doesn't mean over bug races exist, just other giant bugs. Like giant beetles being used like oxen
>have to do Uni work for a solid 2 months
>2 months worth of changelog
Sheeeit.
>>125841226
Oh, yeah that makes sense. I will work on another set of lore based on a bug planet then. I'll post it tomorrow.
>>125841127
what?
why though?
they don't really have any defenses in real life either
in fact if they had hands and shit they could just gang up on thing and punch them to death
or something
maybe they survived via trading shit i dunno
>>125841381
just ask in the thread, dude.
>>125841476
I've always seen people do that and get the reply "Read the changelog". Which is a fair point.
>>125841417
Because Moths drink nectar and other bugs usually eat bugs. But I will give making a bug world a shot. Tomorrow.
>>125841476
>hey guys I've been away for awhile, what's new on the Serb?
>fuck off and read the changelog
Tiny moth monkey now has four directions. Soon lightbulbs will never be safe again.
How do i into chaplain?
What gods do you guys worship also? (in game obviously)
>>125842509
I find Space-Christianity to be the easiest, and HomoGods to be the most fun.
>>125842504
I like the look of that moth.
>implying I've even attempted to access your cancer server since building a new computer and getting a new IP
>>125842509
worship hardcores
>>125843446
>2hotdogs
>3hotdogs
>23
23 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcYRK1cvIeY
can borgs operate the Destructive Analyzer and Protolathe?
>>125843446
>implying this isn't a fake
>>125842509
I worship gibberish and let my brain-damaged ravings act as sermons.
>>125844119
Yes
I like to print beakers and shit and drag them to medbay
>>125838401
How about this as my take on the lore you made.
Their home planet was an abandoned terraforming project by NT for its strategic location against the Syndicate. The Syndie threat passed, and the planet's development scrapped.
All they could do in time was set down oxygen miners, make water sources, introduce wildlife and oxygen-using plants, and construct a military/research outpost. They couldn't create an electromagnetic field like on Terra to block harmful radstorms/EMPs in time. All the engineers and scientists were told to get the fuck out of dodge by corporate.
An electrical storm hit the NT base. The whole planet went dark. The flora and fauna adapted to low level environments. The combination of radstorms (rad immunity as a bonus?) and high levels of oxygen made the wildlife of the burgeoning planet grow immensely in size. Some even grew sentience.
Later, there was a salvage project to reclaim NT property to sweep the planet for anything valuable. There, they found the large insects inhabiting the derelict NT base, in total darkness, wearing NT uniforms, armed with spears. They formed a primitive society for themselves, developing agriculture and religion.
As a society, when they are not busy defending themselves from monsters, they prefer to be solo, staring at the Great Darkness to enhance themselves spiritually while sipping sacred nectar for divination purposes. Unless a particular event happened: they see a bright light. They'd drop everything and mindlessly gather around, set their angry moth noises and differences aside, and dance around the light in peace.
That's how they loaded them onto the NT salvage ship. With a floodlight. So they slowly walked onto the ship, where they stuncuffed and blindfolded them. So now NT have employees for life that will work just for sugar. Dick move, but it's a living.
If you're looking ideas for a race name, the word for moth in Latin is Papilio/Teredo, but the Order name for moths is Lepidoptera.
reading comprehension
>>125844454
oh good
>Law 2, do R&D setup for me
>>125844939
Can't do RD, no hands
by the way unban me and stop memeing your hate towards me
wew kat
we did it
>That final stand with the roboticist
It was great working with you, Leaf.
>There is not cult
>t. HoS
>Nar-Nar has risen
>Sec officer Hulk Hogan appears outside of cult shuttle and screams "This is for America, Brother!"
>unloads laser rifles into whatever constructs he can hit before the shuttle takes off
As ineffective as it was, I still laughed
>>125845119
but how do you print beakers then?
Feels good bein rich
hope everyone enjoyed their money
> One step away from turning on the R-UST engine
> Power goes out cuz of Nar-Sie can't complete said step
> Get slowly stabbed to death in front of my baby.
>>125845385
you click the computer and click print
To deconstruct you need to put stuff in the DA and that requires hands
>>125844469
>wall of lore
Don't you have something better to do on a Friday night than write lore for yet another special snowflake race we don't need?
>>125845784
>le friday night meme
normie go
>>125845784
desu man you have a point
but you're still just a mad faggot and it makes me giggle
>HoS
>officers keep bringing in greytide
>Some miner has cult paper on him
>Ask security to get the chaplain
>There is no chaplain HoS
>yes there was we brigged him, he is just called something stupid now
>Have to hunt him down myself
>Get him up to security to start purification
>Starts beating him and the mime who happened to be next to him
>Jesus christ feed him the water you moron
>Breaks the glass and goes back to beating them
>Let the miner go because holy shit fuck man this fucking chaplain
>Mime is insistent on being a shitter and the chaplain takes it as an excuse to beat him half to crit
>Fucking throw them both out
>Mime ends up greytiding so hard the captain tears out his eyes
>Later my warden ends up with all access
for beating two IAAS to death, what the fuck
>Suddenly some firefight over continued greytide arrests causes three people to get brigged at the same time
>Officers all leave it to the warden
>Who is nowhere to be found
>defaults to me
>Have to figure out what they did
>>he stole my gun and shot me with it!
>Then how did he get brigged?
>He shot me first!
>Deal with this continued bullshti till I tell all of my officers off and tell them there is no cult because My department and the captain are insane
>Go deal with some situation about buttbots
>Decide to bring up the surgeon instead of mai because the surgeon did go about spamming comms
>about to give him two minutes and a no more but policy
>NARSIE HAS RISEN
>than god its over
>Gear people up and head to the pod
>Quiet ride to centcomm
I got a migrane from that
>>125845336
Well I had my proof
Nobody did anything
Should I be mad at the greytide or my officers
Because neither were cult as it turns out
There was only ever one cultist brought in yet I recall half suspects being abused for being cultists
>>125845328
good borg work, borgs.
All of you were great, though I was never quite sure why so many of you were in my office.
How do i borer?
>>125845996
tbqh tho you really did save me from brig man
thanks :^)
>>125845784
Shit lore on top of that.
>>125845336
>if someone checked the sps at any point they would have found clear proof of it
https://youtu.be/CPNK0VspQ0M
Sec players really need to grow a pair this shit is getting ridiculous.
>>125846534
what exactly do SPS do differently anyway? I know they alert their user if one gets stripped off another SPS user, but what else? and do you have to check it or does it come up in the bar like a PDA message
>>125845996
whitelisting chaplain when?
>>125846632
Supposed to notify all other SPS when the user dies or has it stripped from them, and obviously provides their location.
>>125846837
You know I have not heard the SPS go off even though I have been using it
I better test it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fSVejb1CYI
>grayshit tries to smooth talk nice guy sec officers and winds up yakety saxing
>>125847508
>frank grimes is mad because he made a shitty unbelievable lie to try to brig greytides for nothing
lmaoooo
>>125845996
That one miner was a starting cultist so you couldn't unfuck him. I was tailing some other guy, which is why I left the barney bunch with the other officers there. Got ganked by the other two starting cultists and it snowballed from there.Prioritize better and just shoot the fuckers if the chaplain won't cooperate. The mins seem fine with that.
>>125847508
>bald and gray shirt
He really is graytide.
Where is his gas mask and yellow gloves?
>>125847728
>mfw ambushing that sec team
I regret running off and not finishing the job, but I didn't feel like having a whole team of sec crying about the dang dirty greytide shitters. So, no point in grabbing that gun and chasing that fucker who flashbanged the others. I kick myself even now for doing that. It would've been hilarious.
>All this bashing about new races
>Tfw I have a fully sprited spurdo race that I can switch the regular humans .dmi to, turning the station to spurdos
>Have a full event planned for SpurdOps, but regret wanting to bus in something this retarded
Spurdos never. Moths, on the other hand...post more moths to help me sprite a moth race
>>125838027
>>125838018
blame Celt for this that dumb fucking potato bitch
>>125848460
>ambushing that sec team
>not finishing the job
What the fuck are you even talking about bro?
You're only regret should be the fact that you fucking suck lmao
You're literally unrobust as fuck and allowed me to steal your taser twice.
I also never touched another sec officer because I only needed you bb ;))))))
>>125848743
I have no idea what you're talking about, either.
>>125848798
i lack reading comprehension bro
>>125843446
i see 4 dogs
>>125848846
Gerry Adams is shit
Who is the best waifu and husbando?Who is the worst waifu and husbando?Maybe both of those two should get together.
>>125849476
Rosy Maple Moth is cute! CUTE!
>>125849983
Any kind of moth girl really u_u
>>125849983
the best waifu/husbando is yours/you
the worst are the ones who try too hard to get attention.
My name is DeadPoolJ, also known as Deadpoo.
I will not rest until spurdos are added to the game, under the following conditions.
They are adminbus only.
They spawn with 200 BRAIN damage.
Their speech is littered with :-DDDDD
As a combination of the above, they are valid like salad.
This would not detract from the game while serving as a tool for adminbus. There is no downside to it at all.
Pomf, tear down this barrier you have against fun! SPURDOS WHEN
>>125831071
>>125831119
>>125831364
>>125831437
Did the scarves and longjohns plus some mockups for misc costume stuff, partially snow related.
>>125850952
You sure sound like a 2hotdogs sympathizer.
>>125842509
AVE NEX ALEA
SALUTO NEX ALEA
PRAISE THE KUBE
GET VALIDZ, SACRIFICE THEIR BODIES TO YOUR GOD
>>125851187
2memedogs can fuck off. He is the worst kind of player.
>>125842509
It comes naturally.
I hope I helped :^)
>>125851218
back to TG with you, memer.
>>125851262
you guys are so damn easy to manipulate
>>125851339
But I honestly think that way, anon.
Meanwhile rip in pepperoni Pete Zuh you did your best we cry evrtim ;_;7
>>125851339
it's easy when you've got two dogs.
>>125851168
I love you anon.
>>125851435
>>125851428
I'll always be better than everyone here
>>125851610
how do I become you?
>>125851683http://pastebin.com/vZsUNv1r
To be honest our AI was really passive. It was mostly me having an itch to bash people's skulls in and I was largely reigned in by him. The engi borg was also very subtle but eventually wanted to flood o2.
>Nations round
>No one in golorious CARGONIA until I arrive an hour and a half into the round.
poor form desu senpai
>tfw you're the worst pAI this side of the station and give your master shitty ideas that result in him blowing himself up while simultaneously NOT ending clownnation
fuck.
That was a tough round as sillycon commander.
Nations is hard on its own, but then the engineers one humaned me so I had to play some kind of double con game without them realizing national priorities take place over human preservation.
And then the security borgs wanted blood so badly, and engineering kept ordering people to die, and things just spiralled.
Eventually I figured the best way to solve all of this was just assassinate the guy in charge of engineering, since he was the only one who even knew about the law change.
clown nation kept it real as fuck
>Go around as Mime stealing every machine I can get my hands on.
>Clownation ends up with almost all shit from every department, including and operating table with all utensils.
>>125852442
>gets blown up
Wiz Rad Insurgency best Insurgency
I blew out Clown Town, and I started the Sec/Sci war
>>125852463
>>125852442
>>125852398
GIT R DUN BOIS
>>125852485
>started the sec/sci war
YOU MONSTER
>>125852442
>Steal the robotics machines that can't even use.
Station Vox Nation was probably the best nation because I built it out of the husk of science behind their backs and nobody was there to ruin it.
>FOOD
>WEAPONRY
>BOOZE
>WATER
>BOOKS
>ATMOSPHERE
>COMFY
Lets face it, you're just jealous you couldn't be a part of the Station Vox Nation.
>>125852485
>gets blown up
>Mechanic
>NATIONS
>Run off with fellow mechanic to infiltrate other departments
>Scan most of medbay's stuff
>Cloner and chem setup in engineering
>CE sets up forcefield and creates Great Wall of Egnineering
>Run out of time to set up hydroponics
GLORY TO ENGINEERIAsorry to anyone on the receiving end of the murderbone though
>>125852485
i KNEW IT you piece of shit monster i bet you were the one who took the monkey cubes aswell
>>125852551
>this literal fucking sub-tweet bullshit
You knew I was here and I'm still triggered
Well done friend
Well done
>Be Hawking, Sec
>With Grimes
>Go to war
>He kills fucking everyone
>I go in, shoot some guy, fall for the "I won't kill you just stop"
>Get murdered like the idiot I am
Grimes, you wonderful IAA you.
>>125852485
Wait you what.
>>125852485
Was that you in the newspaper photo? The AI took a picture of someone in one of the research space suits rooting through armory wreckage and I used that as proof that science was really the one behind the attack
That's some top level insurgency
>>125852442
Did you break into mechanics and steal the proto/autolathe?
Well played. You bastard.
>>125852658
hey sec guy
HOW DID YOU ALL DIE AND DISSAPEAR?
Whatever happened, both your department AND science department went dark at the same time.
>>125852713
Yeah I stole that, would have stolen it earlier but there were lots of people there.
Being Captain that round was a pain in the ass- having to stay neutral just means everyone hates you equally. If only I had been an assistant and spearheaded the Greytide Empire.
I'm not even sure how the AI was subverted, I ordered it to cut power to the upload and bolt the doors earlier in the round.
>>125852715
>spend ages defending
>defensive N02
>Science being a bitch
>Armoury gets blown up
>convinced it's Science
>We are nothing without all our weapons
>Go Rambo
>Grimes goes Rambo, rather
>I go in after
>fucking no-one left
>some Scientist crawls up behind me
>NO PLEASE I'M UNDERCOVER
>Shoulda just killed him
>He kills me
>dragging Frank to the non-existant medbay, no less
>be dragged to bar
>Stay there forever
The raid on Cargonia was fun though, you guys never did see those Pizzas.
>>125852909
I was directly given a nations law via admins
>>125852993
I noticed that when the laws were stated, but why engineering? Couldn't they have made you into Siliconia?
>>125852959
the tragic thing is this:
Right as the peace pizza shuttle was arriving as a reward for the crew's peaceful attitudes was happening?
>>125852485
THIS FUCK started the great security/science war
>>125852675
yes, yes he was. source: I took the picture.
>>125852551
>Vox "nation"
>Can't even breathe inside it
lol
>>125853065
oh, the engineering thing was done by the engineers after the first law was put into place but before you ordered us to lock down the thing.
We weren't actually on engineerings side, but pretended to be when convenient. Most of my interaction with engineering was turning off their great wall so the station could run properly, having the guy who made a robotics console assassinated, and having the leader of engineering assassinated for being a warmonger.
I started ordering assassinations a lot more once I realized HATE was going to get his murder boner on whether I gave him targets or not. Might as well give him productive ones.
>>125853172
Hate was so intent on helping sec it was unreal, seeing how he wanted to melt all humans on deadchat, felt betrayed man.
>>125853172
See? It's all about using your assets properly. I told you my circuits thirsted for blood.
Besides, come on, science was bombing the station, those muthafuckas deserved it hardcore.
>>125853245
You guys were dead and I didn't find your bodies until civilian nation dragged you out. To be honest at first I had no love for you guys but after our raid on science I felt a little bit of kinship spark.
Your deaths did not help my desire for blood.
>>125853163
hey buddy, its hard to rig up an atmospherics system to put nitrogen into a room when youre just one assistant
>>125853331
You don't need to put any nitrogen in, just filter the oxygen out
If you can get access to an an assault rifle you can get an RPD
>Can't kill a plasmaman and wear his suit to pose as him when you're an antag
Is there any justification or this or is it just an oversight that should be fixed? Don't tell me this wouldn't be fun gameplay.
I at least understand Vox because their feet are fucked but Plasmamen are just human skeletons
>>125853628
Maybe getting inside a plasma drenched suit isn't a good idea for humans.
>>125853628
>human going in suit full of plasma
>this is good idea some how
I just realized.
There was a false flag terrorist action used to spark a war that was a distraction for the theft of a nuclear device that nations round.
WE HAVE CREATED METAL GEAR
>>125853874
>>125853828
Make it toxic and you can wash it off in a washer like any other suit.
The plasma is kept in the plasma tank anyway
>>125853550
the whole base was connected to xenobio maint, so i didnt want to fuck over science by syphoning all their air and pressure so i could potentially have the whole thing turn to n2o if someone opened the door to their maint.
also i traded a predecorated house for the gun to a scientist grey early in the round, and when i left all the autolathes had been claimed by the clown's nation.
i would have still needed to somehow get breathable nitrogen without overpressurizing everything.
>>125854059
>n2o
>>125854349
>fill room full of nitrogen, possibly overpressurized
>someone opens room with oxygen and nitrogen
is this not going to make a giant disaster
>>125854419
>>125854349
I don't know about ss13 atmos, but nitrogen and oxygen do not naturally make N2O.
Because they're together in the air.
All the time.
so a dumb moth race is being added for insect furries? They should automatically walk towards light sources when no movement inputs are made. They should also take massive extra damage from fire sources because they're moths.
>>125854521
im pretty sure the station usually has 20% nitrogen and 80%oxygen, but if someone gets knocked over from pressure and cant close the door both of those are going to mix and when nitro becomes higher than the oxygen im almost certain its gonna burst into snowy sleepgas
atleast that was my impression, ive never played atmos and didnt want to make a huge mess because i didnt have enough airlock electronics and metal for multiple airlocks
>>125854673
>>125854521
>>125854419
No, an atmos imbalance does not cause a chemical shift into sleepygas because that's not even close to scientific
Source: I've actually played atmos tech before
>Observe
>Chaplain plants c4 on himself and an emag
>Runs around being silly
>Outbombs cuban pete
>Plants the bomb in the chapel
>Sec show up to apprehend him
>Borg does not understand how anything works
>uncuffs him
>He proceeds to yakkity his way to armory
>Gears up but the borg gets him again
>Loses him again
>Catches him in main hallway
>Clown runs in and slips on his own peel dropping his emag
>Suddenly a cargo tech runs in and activates an explosive implant
>Kills the HoS, clown and chaplain
>fucks up the borg
>Someone then does a bunch of PDA bombings
>Nobody took chaplains early warnings of the bomb seriously
>Bomb blows medbay
>Rest of round watch the HoS die several times to bloodloss because the wild ride was in maximum overdrive
>>125855158
fun round
poor vox died 10+ times on the wild ride
>>125831135
may take a bit for this one. tinkering with the canvas and need to see how I'm going to pose everything.
>>125855326
Holy shit thank you so much
>>125851168
These are great, good job.
>>125854673
>>125854521
>>125854419
does not happen it should but does not.
What really happens is the over-pressurized room starts to ZAS slam you into walls etc until you die.
>>125861101
isn't oxygen much more naturally reactive than nitrogen and much more likely to bond with an oxygen atom than a nitrogen atom?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought oxygen's very high reactiveness with itself was what all of our atmosphere was based on, and the reason the like 80% nitrogen in our atmosphere doesn't make us pass out because of N20
Anime lesbians.
>>125861276
Atmos in this game is not base on real life one.
its so bad you can make a room hot and cold at the same time and kill people with this or make a room hotter then the fucking sun and the walls windows and floors don't turn into dust etc
>>125862208
Hotter than the sun is a misnomer because the sun's temperature from the surface to the core varies by tens of millions degrees Celsisu
>>125847739
Not quite. Startet cultists do not get any bonuses like tev heads do, excepting the supply talisman. You can deconvert starter cultists just fine.
>>125863291
Wow, maybe I should try that again.
Starter*, rev*, deconvert*
>>125863046
I think it's safe to say that you can make a room hotter than the Sun.
>three hour extended round
Where were you when !!SCIENCE!! was foiled by someone too scared of a ban
>>125864958
What?
>>125863821
not just the room the pipes can deal with all that heat some how
>>125863821
Bug's don't count
>>125865024
Probably that time R&D tried to start a civil war and Reuben Shafer got arrested with toxin bombs and Gatlings because the others were too busy trying to talk to admins about not getting banned
>start staticnaming because I can't stand nonhuman races having human names
oh noooo
>>125865989
>playing vox
>having a name like tikitikiNikiTikkamasala
>>125866061
pff, as if.
It's ringadingdong.
>Hulk skeleton with a borer is impossible to kill
fucking beautiful
What a way to end my FOUR HOUR borer round
gaY
Bob the borer, and gay cargo slime.
Thank you for giving me the best round of spess I've ever played.
>>125865989
That shit triggers my autism like no other.
Nothing shows that you're a special snowflake shitter like a vox with a pronounceable name.
Request for moth race;
Don't give them stupid bug abdomen ass unless you're really wanting to put the effort of making dozens of moth-only articles of clothing.
Pic related for appropriate bugnatomy.
>>125861276
*reading this and my brain gets fucked repeatedly and explodes in shit*
u fucken what m8 what is this even
oxygen in air => oxygen+oxygen => oxygen x 2 (O2)
nitrogen in air => N + N => N2 which is just in the air, being completely without any reactions to anything as it barely reacts with anything. N2 in the air doesn't react with anything except certain meme-organisms that live in/on certain plants.
There is no major (or minor) amount of either NO nor N2O in the air at most times, including the air you are breathing right now. Imagine N2 in the air basically being some kinda buffer-gas; It does nothing except dilute other components in the air.
>upgrade all the machines I can think of
>literally ran out of shit to do that round
>>125866742
>bob the borer
Lucky. He's the second besr brain buddy anyone could ask for
>>125867532
Getting intoxicated by inhaling pure oxygen when?
Hyperoxia from inhaling pure oxygen in large quantities when?
>>125867340
They were supposed to wear clothing?
>Wake up with headache
>(You have messages waiting)
>"WHY WAS STICKY BAN?"
>"WORST ADMIN"
I don't even remember applying a stickyban, what the fuck?
Also, how could you all send me messages while I was offline?
It was 4AM here, 2PM now and only just getting up.
Sorry to those affected
>>125869958
dragnobro why did yo ban me wtf dedmin now
>>125869958
get better soon, dragonbro
who /antag prefs disabled/ here
>>125872115
I have made myself a character with next to zero chance of antag, so I pretty much am
Adding different access is so simple it's almost cheating, but it makes for fun testing.
>>125872259
Good god, I want this so hard!
>>125872353
I'm using a quickly thrown together version of Tinystation as a testing map, since it's small and has the absolute essentials of every department (from what I'm aware). I still have to add proper hazards to spacewalking, though, but it's getting there.
>>125872259
This gives me System Shock 1 vibes. I love it.Please send it to me, I want to have a look at this so bad you have no idea.
>>125872595
It looks so organic! You're doing a great job!
>>125872595
what about hands and inventory? is the game just doom with an ss13 backdrop, or does it actually have the most important part?
>>125872664
>>125872597
Here's a nice picture of a dank bug where it snows inside the syndicate shuttle. Easy to fix but more important stuff to do.
The upside is that once it's working right, the weather system should allow for stuff like plasma/N2 particles pretty easily, as is evident. Unless it's gonna be a fog effect instead, I'm not sure yet.
Pic related is also pulse rifle.
>>125872753
Doom has a somewhat primitive inventory system which happens to allow for scripting to a pretty tolerable degree. There's been mods that add a proper RPG-like inventory with storage through plenty of autistic scripts.
I'm essentially saving most of the in-depth mob logic for later once the round mechanics and general station functionality are implemented, since it's probably the most in-depth part. There's already counters for various types of damage/conditions, though, and you can do neat interface effects like screwing with the player's vision and mouse/keyboard input.
>>125872259
>>125872353
imagine SS13 on a full on voxel game like space engineers, with the detail of a game like alien isolation, but still keeping the 32x32 style and maybe some low poly models . maybe even a highly modded star citizen server. Imagine if we had fully modeled interiors of famous spess sheeps like
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TudlAN2GZN4
a spaceman can dream, cant he?
>>125873349
SS13 in 3D would be vomit
>>125873605
I respect your opinion, but I sincerely disagree. It would be much more imurshunslstifying. could make multi story stations possible. voxel based astroids for miners. an actual ventilation system for xenos to stalk around in. doom engine looks realy nice, and is more what im talking about, just a voxel game would be MUCH better for construction/destruction, mining and maybe even atmos simulation. id stick to a more vats-like auto aim system as we have now instead of a full on FPS SS13 if thats what you mean. even if its somthing as simple as minecraft or ace of spaces, I think 3d could work.
>>125872809
Now that I think of it, the BFG-9000 is an adminbus weapon on one of the other serbs...
>>125874293
In my opinion, 3D ss13 is so hard to concieve that it's shit.
It would require a mashup of dozens of features that can interconnect, an engine with a proper netcode, loadsa models, and it should be done in a short enough amount of time.
Then there are the things that would not work well on 3d, and those that cannot work at all.
Of course there are benefits to 3d, but the will to do it is lacking.
Then there's ION...
>>125874293
>Picking up items
>Having to stop to use inventory
>First person view making combat even worse
>>125874821
ION isn't a remake and even then it's going to be shit
>>125873605
>>125874293
>>125874821
Given that SS13 as it currently exists has been designed entirely around a top-down perspective, it's obvious that it's going to feel unnatural at first when you throw a third dimension in there.
If we have to be pedantic, Doom is technically a 2D engine. Most of the game logic is in two dimensions apart from the first person rendering, obviously. I do get people's skepticism, however, and that's also why a direct 1:1 port probably isn't exactly the right way to approach it. You have to take into consideration the strengths and weaknesses of the platform you're working on.
As to voxels, yes, when you add a third dimension to the gameplay it grows more complex, and multi-story stations, while a good concept, are probably something that's best saved for a game designed around them.
First person view is comfy, though.
>show some gamer/RL friends Spess and explain it to them
>reaction is always "lol shit graphics wtf?" "it'd be better if it was in 3d" or "wtf is with these shitty munted controls? why did I just get banned for killing that guy? fuck this game "
>>125875986
>show game to friend
>wow this game looks neat! How do I put these shoes on? Can I get that corgi? Is that a robot?
You've got shit friends m8
>>125876083
Sounds like you've got good gamer friends.
Mine are obsessed with graphics. They literally will refuse to play anything unless it has brand-new AAA graphics, no matter how good the game is.
Then they complain that whatever AAA game they play has no depth or was "a ripoff".
>>125875986
My brother saw me playing spess once, he said, and I quote:
>"that looks like the first videogame ever made"
He was serious, too. He doesn't know about text-based games or Pong or anything.He's 26.
Don't worry, he's always been a very punchable guy.
>>125876187
Mine are heartstone and lol players. Life is suferring.
>>125875986
It's closer to dwarf fortress than one might think at first. Great story and complex mechanics if you dare to read through the whole thing.
>>125875846
what i mean by multy story is, vents the struts under the station are one z level, the floor and tile is another, then the 2 z levels for interiors, and a final top z level for the roof (if the station even has one lol) with this, we could make actual vents that are in the floor z level to simulate the new ventcrawl system. the asteroid may look very odd and squashed if its only 4 z levels high, so maybe adding some skybox z levels just so it looks like a roundish asteroid.
>>125875846
Doing God's work Anon. Keep us posted.
>>125876308
>>125876493
>be playing Dwarf Fortress
>fat lesbian housemate walks by
>"wtf is this? how is that even a game? stop hacking the internet or i'll call the cops"
>>125876517
I might actually try to do something like that, it's a good idea. I love the thought of xeno players scrambling around vents, although they could also be made spacious enough to accomodate players. There's two ways to do multi-story levels in Doom: one takes a lot of work and basically adds 3D floors at selected locations, the other is basically just teleporting actors into a seperate "vent-map", if you will.
By the way, did I mention that Doom supports vehicles? Mechs could be a thing later on, but don't take that as a guarantee.
>>125876549
Will do. Early CentCom map. It's going to be used as the in-game lobby for things like antag/gamemode selection and voting. I always thought it was a bit silly that you start the game on the station itself, so I wanted to give CentCom a bit more exposure than it usually gets.
>>125877104
>Pre-game lobby is the Thunderdome
WHY AREN'T WE DOING THIS RIGHT NOW
>>125877883
BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T CODED IT
>>125876718
Reminds me of the "hack anons computer" pasta
>>125845996
The Hos took my eyes off after i served my time in brig for what i have done to him
Was not fair
>>125874293
Just for fun.if you wait long enough on the title screen the door opens
>>125880976
Are you going for single hight or double hight rooms?
>>125881112
Currently it's double height for hallways and rooms, single height for maint. I went with double since supposedly the original atmos code regards tiles as 1x1x2.5m.
>>125881238
Sounding good. Replacing lights by hand seems harder now.
>>125881660
Stepladder time.
The lightbulbs ingame are sprites. It's easier to handle interaction with them that way. Maybe at some point I'll make a couple of voxel replacements for the most common items.
>have to get off spess because college
>come back, try log in
>you're permbanned
>check forum
>captain cried about being spiritbreaked for killing the Ian/acting suspiciously about it
>while killing HoP's and practically whole's station pet kind of makes you valid
>have no forum account
Can we talk here?
>He plays Final Fantasy
>He plays Final Fantasy MIDIs
I want the weeb admins to leave. Final Fantasy is garbage for 10 year olds.
>>125883360
yeah sure, you're a piece of shit for spirit breaking the condom for killing ian
is that all?
>>125883460
Yeah you should only play mature, intellectual games like Hatred and Beyond Two Souls!
#usGayMers
>>125884167
>you're a piece of shit for spirit breaking the condom for killing ian
Yeah.
He killed station's pet. If I wanted to really get valids then I would just kill him, you can cure spiritbreaker, it's hard, but still doable.
I killed Ian few times as nonantag and I wouldn't cry over being valided for that, I know what risk I take.
If cap didn't kill the Ian then I would give much less fucks about that.
>>125884167
>kill ian
>get punished
>cry like a faggot
Space yourself bitch
>>125884535
>you can cure spiritbreaker, it's hard, but still doable.
Fuck you, no it's not. It gives ONE FUCKING HUNDRED TRIPPY PER TICK AND IT LASTS FOR FUCKING EVER.
You would need to hook someone up to a Synaptizine and anti-tox dialysis for around TWENTY MINUTES, depending on dosage.
I'm pretty sure it lasts through cloning, too.
>>125883360
Make a forum account and discuss there. You won't go anywhere talking here. Just look at 2hotdogs.
The permaban is just to ensure you reply, not a final decision. Your input is needed to see your side of the thing.
Nuke's already saying you are a ban evader for not answering, go figure.
>>125884537
read the forum, killing cap is w/e but spirit breaking is a faggot move. he went on to kill another guy screaming he was a ling on extended, waited for security with a lubed floor and gun ready, and ended floating into space from perma. he was a shitler and acted like a shitler all as a fuking botanist
>>125884839
Okay, I can do it.
Why is everyone so sensitive over a fucking dog, anyways?
Please tell me you all are just jumping at any excuse for valids and don't ACTUALLY feel sorry over Ian, fuck's sake.
>>125885016
>doesn't care about dogs
SOCIOPATH ALERT
>>125885016
If I was the HoP and some fuckhead broke in and minced my dog, I'd be pissed enough to seek vengeance.
Otherwise I wouldn't give a shit.
>Killing people and working with the detective to "catch the baddies"
Fun roundSorry I had to kill you, pal. I had to satiate the murder boner
>>125884535
killing Ian makes you valid to the HoP, not to the whole station you fucking dolt
You can get auto traitored as a mouse.
>>125884767
5u spiritbreaker requires something like 10u synap to undo. 10 synap metabolizes fully after 1000 ticks, so about 30 minutes or so.
That's just 5u spiritbreaker.
>>125885016
there is no reason to kill a unique harmless mob that is kind of iconic in the game
Unless you are a "LULZ MURDER IS FUN XD WHY ARE U BRIGGIN ME"
>>125885016
The dog is the station's mascot and while i don't feel sorry over Ian, it's a big indicator that someone that kills Ian is a massive newfag and a huge shithead. It's not even a metagaming thing, it's been this way since before Corgi Meat existed as a traitor objective (or at all).
>>125885358
>Borgs get pissed
>They resort to bringing runtime along
>But somebody filled escape with corgis so the borgs and runtime couldn't get the mouse
Devilish
>>125885419
>I was roleplaying as my character Jackie Chen, got drafted as Captain for the third time, so I decided to have some fun and go turn the kitchen into an Asian restaurant.
>I told the Botanist from the start I needed Rice, Cabbage and Corn and that I was making Chicken (Woof, Woof) soup.
>The gimmick being that Jackie calls dogs chickens and uses poor quality meat for his food.
Sounds like a pretty good reason to me
>>125830085
borgs being able to "jack on" for drugs when?see futurama S01E09
>>125885574
Thats an okeyish reason, but other than that, kidnapping and gimmicks, no reason to kill it unless you are bored
>>125885358
Requesting that picture of a secborg chasing after a mouse for MUH VALIDS
>>125885609
>overloading their circuits by jacking in works like hyperzine and spiritbreaker on them
>Clown autotraitor
>Don't feel like murderboning, realize i have to leave for a bit later, decide to not do anything radical
>Go bother R&D to print a speaker assembly for me
>Stuff a radio triggered honker in a plant next to an intercom in the court room where nobody ever goes
>Hand out signallers like candy, install signaller in PDA, sprinkle proxsensor+signaller assemblies around the station
>Station gradually grows more and more asspained and eventually it's declared that possessing a signaller is illegal
>detective swings around and pulls out a stun gun, i decide to slip myself on purpose for humor points
>detective picks up my PDA with the signaller menu open, and walks away without saying a word
>realize i'm the fucking traitor and could use those telecrystals, but the PDA is nowhere to be found
>detective says he handed it to the warden, who is also nowhere to be found
>station is now so ass pained that even the borgs flash me and ask where the honk assembly is
>decide to hold the station hostage with the honker unless somebody brings me my PDA
>the honking grows louder and louder as people unknowingly pass by my proxsensor+signallers
>eventually the warden gives in and hands me the PDA just as it's time for me to leave
>on the spot i unlock it, buy a balloon, hand it to the maid that was conveniently close, and gib myself with the horn without telling anyone where the honker was
>>125885358
Maybe the spells would have worked for me if I had the no clothes spell and spoke Sol Common. The spells might have been language/wizrobe dependant.
Stealing shoes from under a table and putting them on the table afterwards was fun, though. Medbay's front desk had ALL OF THE SHOES.
10/10 would mousezard again.
If there is any admin, I replied to thread on forum.
>>125888975
Great, now I need to spend the remainder of the day pondering how to market a mouse based antag as a common occurance.
I had other things to do today but they can wait.
>>125888975
So that's where my shoes went, you rat fuck
>>125889168
You're unbanned. I hacked the server and unbanned everyone.
>>125889398
.Mouse Round: 20 players spawn as mice, they have the power to eat all the food, devour animals such as punpun, lamarr, runtime, ian, ect., They can destroy botanists crops, their goal is to destroy the crops and slowly starve the station. They can also crawl inside of vending machines and disable them and theycan cut out power and disable the A.I
http://pastebin.com/vZsUNv1rhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=AcmaNJfRQf0
>>125890039
2hotdog2paste
>The new Hippie nuke ops
Gotta say, didnt think they could improve nuke ops anymore but they did it.
>>125890314
Here it is though I'll copy paste the changelog.
>Nuclear Operative leaders can now buy an item that announces that they're invading the station.
>This postpones the Op shuttle by 15 minutes, and gives them a large amount of TC to spend.
>Nuke Ops can now buy Sniper Rifles for 25 TC.
>4 types of ammo are purchasable for sniper ammo. Default, Soporific/Knockout, Haemorrhage/Bleeding, and Penetration bullets which go through mobs and walls.
>Sniper rifles can zoom in, and coders can make other guns zoomable/have attachable scopes
>You can also silence a sniper rifle with a silencer.
>Nuke Ops can now buy a medbeam gun to heal their allies. ERT Medics start with one.
>Syndicates can no longer buy a teleporter board and teleport to the station. Instead they can buy:
>An Assault Pod Targetting Device for 25 TC, which will let them sync up to the new assault pod in their hanger and choose a location to send it.
>This pod is a one way trip! So make sure to take everything you need including the Nuke, or leave an operative or two behind to take the shuttle.
>You can now buy reinforcement syndicates from your uplink at 25 TC a pop. These syndicates get no hardsuit or TC to spend.
>>125890734
And how many telecrystals do they start with again?
>Syndicates can no longer buy a teleporter board and teleport to the station.
I like it.
>>125890865
100
>>125889398
Possible Objectives:
Assassinate Runtime, the cat.
Eat 30 bites of cheese.
Throw 20 items into disposals.
Check the pulse of five crewmembers.
Get three people to crowbar their own face chasing you.
Make everyone think there are xenos through ventcrawling.
Ensure nobody is buckled in on the escape shuttle.
>>125891081
What the fuck, does all their shit cost three times as much as it does here? It would be nice if the had a wiki to see what the baseline costs for the standard items are.
>>125891129
>Assassinate Runtime, the cat.
How would you even?
>>125890969
Oh no they'll have to stop being wasteful retards and go to the satellite!
>>125890734
>no hostile syndie mobs as supports
it's shit mate.
Sitting in one of my branches is a small legion of syndie mobs of the human and mech variety, perhaps we could do with them as a support option, place a beacon and it will port em in.
Thankfully the IFF is already taken care of because they already don't attack newcops.
>>125891287
These aren't your garden variety mice.
Perhaps give them spells for magic mouse, diseased bite to spread the plague etc. etc.
Have it work like silicon modules maybe and pick a class.
>>125891287
Very carefully.
>>125891173
Declaring gives you an extra 200 TC.
This is the price list for all of the items.
https://github.com/Chronitonity/HippieStation13/blob/23124087470201562c8c001b4e158b6fd7773feb/code/datums/uplink_item.dm
>>125891426
That's so fucking easy to cheese.
>>125891287
>>125891568
>Spread the plague (random virus) in Medbay by biting someone
>You scurry away to spread more disease
>CMO lets Runtime out to hunt you down as they cure the virus
>Depressurization, bombs, a grayshit, angry doctor, etc kill Runtime
Why isn't steal a piece of cat meet a traitor objective? Just corgi. Cats are rarer than corgis.
>>125892540
Meat*
Man, I'm tired.
>>125889398
>>125891568
First moths and now mice.
You niggers JUST WON'T FUCKING STOP ADDING MORE RACES.
>>125891790
I wonder why we have so few telecrystals for our stuff. Some kind of balance issue maybe?
How many crystals do regular traitors get? It seems like they might not even be able to afford most of the stuff without spending all of them.
>>125893250
Anon, mice have been around for years
i'm back with another dumb picture
>>125893273
Nuke ops are already incredibly strong, i'm not sure why they need so much shit on Hippie.
>>125893657
ur retarded
>>125893273
Sarca here.
20.
I'll tell you the cold hard truth. /vg/ is based off a 3 year old code base while /tg/ is a stable code base that isn't based off of anything except the initial Goon leak. So /vg/ is based on three year old Bay, and /tg/ is based on rev 4407 or whatever. The coders on /vg/ don't port much of anything from Bay or /tg/ and /vg/ has significantly less coders. These coders rarely rehaul systems or add substantial content, focusing on tweaks and minor additions. 3 years have passed now and /tg/ has about 20 times the amount of content as /vg/ does. Not only that, but entire branches of the game code has been refactored or re-written to be more efficient without changing any functionality. So on /tg/ there are people who see something wrong with a game mode, and try to make it better. The telecrystal change is about a year old change, every single server except for /vg/ has made the change, but nobody on /vg/ cared to change it or update it. It was changed to give traitors a buff, allow them to diversify more. It literally would take only someone changing a few values in the code, but nobody has cared to do it (because the coders on /vg/ literally don't care). They want to add their meme code or minor change. And the times that people on /vg/ do commit to some grand change (the one time I can remember being Deity's cult refactor) the other servers port over the good features. This is something /vg/ doesn't do.
The only reason /vg/ is on Bay is because Pomf or some idiot a long time ago liked the medical system better. It would have been much easier to add a similar (NOT IDENTICAL) system to /tg/ code as an effort from /vg/ coders.
And really, code wise what has /vg/ done to differentiate itself from /tg/ or Bay? Not much at all. It's just /tg/ with a more annoying atmos system, a slightly more complex medical system, and less features.
>>125894998
>sarca doesn't even know how to use the word fewer
Embarassing desu
>>125894998
Yeah, dumb VG doesn't even have Yogstation's "100% LAG FREE" code! Dumb stupid smelly VG haha!
>>125895668
There's a distinction between fewer and significantly less.
99 cents is fewer than one dollar.
99 cents isn't significantly less than one dollar.
I use words precisely to say exactly what it is I want to say.
>>125895870
/vg/ doesn't have quite a bit of features, playing on any server with /tg/ code will tell you this much. What I think the biggest issue for /vg/ is though that nobody actually tries to balance anything. Since I've last played, I believe it was still as easy for a random Scientist to dupe materials and break open advanced energy gun lock boxes about 20 minutes into the round. The second biggest issue would be the lack of substantial content. You still don't have functioning away missions, and are missing a lot of game modes. You can rationalize the absence of these features anyway you like, but nobody is buying that you simply don't want these things. It's more that you are incapable or unwilling to port them over because again, less active coders on /vg/, more people who want to add their minor changes. Hats, clothes, some new gun, but no real content.
>>125896216
Obviously that's not even the tip of the balance iceberg but that's what came to mind.
What's so good about gooncode or goon station or whatever it is? I haven't even looked into them or gone to their server ever.
>>125896216
Less =/= fewer, look up the difference you fucking loser.
>>125896403
Honestly? Nothing. Their code is a lot laggier than ours. A LOT laggier. And their weird new sprites look really odd and out of place. Once upon a time people wanted gooncode but that's a long time ago, now nobody cares.
>>125896403
They acquired the BYOND source code or something, so they can pull some crazy things off like better lighting, better features, better everything. Because of all this fun, they keep themselves closed source
>>125896216Sarca, are you trying to start an argument? Or has something got you mad, forcing you to try and vent here? You can tell me what it is, we can talk it out!
>>125894998
First, you sound much too reasonable to be Sarca at first glance, I'm assuming you aren't actually him.
Second, improving the codebase at that scale would mean more actual coders working on a much more frequent basis. How many do we have now, not counting the codermins whose time actually coding is probably half of what it would be were they not admins? It's no wonder that they're shying away from big changes when they're barely even around to code at all. They can't even port because there aren't enough people who give enough fucks to do all the testing that a port would require.
(Plus, if the telecrystal thing was meant to buff traitors, then why did the emag's price double, among other things? There aren't even that many job-specific items in the list shown in the code, they're almost all weapons. That doesn't sound like diversification at all, just slightly different flavors of murderboning.)
>>125896216
It's not that so much as nobody wants to do the work to port them. Everyone would rather shitpost on the thread about wanting them ported, but when the chips are down they point at someone else and tell him to do it instead.
Instead, we should make entirely new modes, ones which have no precedent at all and won't need to be extensively rejiggered so they can function on our codebase without breaking completely.
>>125896675
That's Sarca, believe me. Also we've got plenty of competent coders that could port shit, porting is relatively easy. Deity could port every gamemode TG has in the time it took him to make his own new cult thing.
The thing is that a lot of their gamemodes are just not very good and feel like glorified random events. Shit like Gangs is just glorified revs, there is no reason to have it. People already hate rev.
>>125896441
>???
1. to a smaller extent, amount, or degree:
>???
1. of a smaller number:
What's the difference? One is broader than the other but that broad term can still apply in the same way you can something that is navy blue, blue or something that is Chinese, Asian. Also can you identify which is which without googling?
>>125894998
Zas is love, ZAS is HELLISH
>>125896981
Gramaticaly speaking, fewer is used for nouns with countable objects. Which is why you say "I earned less money this month" instead for "I earned fewer money this month". Same goes for plural. "I have fewer dogs than he does" instead of "i have less dogs than he does".
Money isn't a quantifiable noun (You can't have one money, two moneys, three moneys, etcetera) and dogs is plural.
>>125897280
Grammatically*
Of, not for. I'm tired.
Snuggles here, that round was so much fun holy shit
>>125896512
Gooncode circa 2012-2013 was amazing.
Now they added tons of stupid bullshit.
Slurp here.
Get fucked vampire.
>>125897661
Back then it was good and there was a reason people wanted it, even if it was already really fucking laggy.
But 2014-2015 gooncode? I haven't heard anyone discuss features we want from goon for months, if not years.
>be captain
>sicing the clown on people like an attack dog
>bombs
>CE won't answer radio
>he comes and the bridge and lasers myself and the CMO
>*gasp
>*gasp
>*deathgasp
>he starts stripping me
>pop up and telebaton him
>he just shreiks and finishes me off
>become ERT
>immediately get thralled
>kill some fools, trap some fools for enthralling
>retarded detective gets thralled and kills me and the vamp
>he gets gibbed
lmao/10
>>125897740
Captain here.
You were an incompetent retard the whole shift, no one thinks you're cool. Kill yourself and stop being a shit namefag
>>125897805
>used to play goon years ago
>seemingly infinite resources, insane adminbus, only downside was political correctness
>come back months ago
>loud retards and distant farting and screaming everywhere
>>125896861
There is no reason to hate rev, if your other problems were addressed it's a great game mode. The only reason you hate rev is because nobody plays Security or Heads and the rounds end quickly. On /vg/, Cult is magic rev that is incredibly one sided towards the Cult and it seems that every cult round I played there the Cult won. You seem to love it still though, I wonder why? All you would need to do is to:
a. Buff security
b. Nerf the crew
c. Get the admins in check so people (like me) who actually played Security, don't get banned for bullshit reasons, like I did.
But it's either that nobody on /vg/ is smart enough to recognize these problems, or simply doesn't care to try to fix them.
As for the gang being at all similar to rev, only in the aesthetic sense.. I suppose I will have to go into detail with that in a later post.
>>125896643
I was responding to a question directed towards a post I made and I felt that I had to go into much further detail to explain the circumstances behind the current reality. My long style posts would give me away. That was the joke of purposefully revealing myself.
>>125896675
This post is so stupid I can't respond to it in this post so give me a moment.
>>125897882
Detective here
I talked to the admin, the V on you bugged and i didnt see you were enthralled and i misread my orders
>>125897882
>You were an incompetent retard the whole shift, no one thinks you're cool. Kill yourself and stop being a shit namefag
You're the one who was demoting people based off of the reports of a vampire CE. You're just upset you got tricked and then wrecked twice.
I suppose you did save me by demanding to stay and watch the second bogus surgery the CE requested to get me alone.
>>125898104
What? I always assumed that thralls couldn't see other thrall's symbols? Are you telling me that's NOT a feature?
>>125898309
Hey, lay off the captain he's the reason I survived that round
>>125897805
I'll admit I'd like traders, people that show up at random and sell random shit, mostly for cargo to deal with but having some of them actually show up at arrival for the crew to buy stuff too would be neatthe station could take a tariff on everything bought and sold
>>125898104
You were still a mong that whole round, ngl
>>125898309
You were demoted for never being in medbay and when you were, fucking up surgeries so bad the CE almost died.
stay mad + bad, kid :^)
>>125896675
There's also a few other problems. As an arbitrary example, take away missions.
>Obviously, the maps themselves are broken completely. They'd need to be remade from scratch because they haven't been updated in years now.
>If that's fixed, you also need a way to ensure enough people remain on the station to make it actually function. This goes double for antags, since an antag in an away mission likely won't be doing any real antagonizing.
As for the game modes, most of them that I've seen on the /tg/ wiki sound like they do the bare minimum to qualify as modes.
>Shadowling
Has potential-if it weren't for the fact that their niche is filled in part by vampires, who also have fewer glaring weaknesses and can function in both lowpop and highpop. Given that 15 thralls are needed to ascend and thralls aren't shared between shadowlings, the win condition may be literally impossible if the shadowlings refuse to share and/or people start dying in a lowpop round.
>Gang War
I'll wait for you to discuss that in your post as mentioned in >>125898069, but from what I've seen it plays more like a team deathmatch crossed with Rev's recruitment mechanic and a defense objective at the end.
>abductors
Has been done before via adminbus shenanigans, and on their own it doesn't seem like they'd do much to establish themselves as a real threat to the station.
>Revenant
Could work...if their list of abilities wasn't so limited. It also needs someone to die before you can do anything, and you have nothing that can kill directly available.
>Holoparasite
First, call it a Stand, you're not fooling anyone. Second, unless the guy the holoparasite has bonded with gains antag status himself, it amounts to little more than a pAI with hands and shared health
>Swarmers
I've said that this would be a good addition plenty of times before, as its objectives and abilities are significantly different from other antagonists'. Were I able to port them myself I would do so.
Does any SS13 server have a zombie virus mode ?
>>125899181
We could if you code it.
I had to reinstall byond but now I can't connect to you, how to I force the thing to re-download the gamefiles and what version should I use?
Idea
>Rogue deconstruction drones
>Made up of deconstructors, protectors, and the core
>Core hits the station, starts taking in material from the environment (Metal off walls, glass, trash, etc.)
>Core can then use the resources to upgrade certain aspects of itself and its controlled droid, or construct more of them
>Deconstructor can move a distance away from the core to deconstruct the station, but has to stay in range of the core
>Once a deconstructor is full, heads back to the core to drop off the resources
>Protector's job is to stop things from damaging the core and the deconstructors, more health, more damage, etc.
>Core wins when it's gathered enough resources and upgraded to a high enough tier to "detach" and create more cores
>Station wins if it can take out the core
Mechanical blob when?
>>125872809
I heard some cool guy was making moves. I'm way beyond impressed, this is exactly how I imagined 3D space would look.
If my game ever gets finished I'd be happy to lend a helping hand. My plan after the JRPG was to make a Doom-like centered around proc-gen Deathsquad missions on event horizon-esque stations, but a full fledged 3D ss13 in idtech1 is a shitload more interesting.
Have you thought of a solution to destructable turfs? IIRC idtech 1's terrain code isn't really robust enough to deal with lots of dynamic walls.
>>125898886
>abductors
Reading this on the /tg/ wiki... It seems like the abductor would best to not cause chaos complete their objectives and then I see "Abductee objectives".
So the idea is you have a team of antags trying not to not cause chaos and turn people in to antags with special powers knowing fully well these two objectives run completely opposite to each other?
That actually sounds pretty crazy.
>mandatory ayy lmao
Christmas movie night tonight:
Die Hard
Nightmare Before Christmas
How the Grinch Stole Christmas (1966)
Rudolph the Red Nosed ReindeerAnd a special Steam game giveaway raffle.
8 PM CST, 9 PM EST.
>>125900434
BASED ANON
Why can't we just smash /vg/ and tg together?
>>125898886
I hope that you're just purposefully saying as much stupid bullshit as you can or are trying to be a Devil's Advocate, because you have perhaps, the worst grasp of this game of anyone I have ever seen. Maybe it's because you haven't ACTUALLY played the game? It's like almost every single thing you say is wrong. This is going to take forever to respond to all your bullshit.
>Obviously the maps themselves are broken completely.
How are they any more broken than advanced Eguns and Durands 30 minutes into the round? Have you visited them? These maps are all created from scratch, just as you say, about a few months ago. They are not the two year old maps littered with eswords and C4. You say that everyone will drop their job and go to the away mission? This isn't what happens. There are certain away missions loaded that are essentially designed to kill you (the emitter maze) and once you go through the gateway, you cannot come back until you have gotten to the end. There is no radio in the away missions so you cannot say "DON'T COME HERE! or HELP ME!". Lastly some of the novelty wears off if you go every round even with the standard 10 or so that are loaded. And it's perfect for antagging. You're in unfamiliar territory with a handful of other people on station with no radio. Some of the greatest antagging I've done was luring my target into an away mission and striking when they are most vulnerable. The away missions are fine. The MOST you can get from them is a touch of the wish granter and that's at the end of a 30 minute ordeal with a shit ton of mobs that will kill you in two hits. Typically what you're getting from the average away mission is free tools, syndicate equipment (like turtle necks) and maybe a C20r SMG if you can kill a Syndicate mob. Nothing game breaking. The joy of the away mission is the adventure, not the loot.
>>125900434
>Die Hard
Shoeless Detective takes out the Nuke Ops?
>>125900728
oh sweet shit no
Thats like mashing HoP with the HoS, nobody is going to be happy
>>125893250
Most don't want that shit except for the guys who get stiffies looking at anthropomorphic moths on e621, except this time they're padded down with Lore™.
Now, if we were to get that Moth Man from Virginia or where ever for adminbusing that'd be neat, or if we had moths like mice that can fly around and eat clothes, instead of food.
>>125900952
Forgot muh pic, cause I thought it looked neat.
>>125900952
>>125901170
But moths don't eat clothing, their larvae do.
>>125875846
Oh man as mapper (Not really, made one or two maps) for doom I can see how this would work out.
The new source ports are very powerful and customizable with what they can do.
>>125900893
>Nuke team named Gruber
>bombs going off with Ode to Joy playing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQHswacESUY&t=30s
Yippee ki yay Mr. Falcon
>>125901618
Eh. Semantics.
I had a retarded idea
I just think it could work and led to cool shenaningans
>One of the ways for a round to end is for the AI to detonate the nuke
>Explosions don't do shit to special blob pieces
Also
>Those scientists dropping bombs on the blob, and they blew up the entire resistance force instead
For shame
>>125900786
That isn't even close to what I meant. For a start, the emitter maze would be literally impossible since emitters work differently from how they did when it was first made.
And when I said broken, I didn't mean unbalanced. I meant literally broken as in they do not fucking WORK. If they had been in a state where they could be implemented, they would have been implemented by now. If that's not the case, then there is no need to have them removed so long as precautions against everyone doing away missions are taken.
And nobody on this server as far as I can see gives a flying fuck about adventure if it doesn't promise valuable loot, valids, or both. Why should they waste their time navigating deathtraps to MAYBE get something that would be little more than a trophy? If you're going to have high risk in these missions, you also need high reward, and not something nebulous like "the thrill of discovery". It solves the problem of everyone rushing to do them all right, but then you have the opposite issue of people doing them once for the novelty and never touching them again.
As for AEGs and Durands being spammable early in the round, the fix is simple. Jack up material cost so high that they literally cannot be made without major investments, and make it so destroying lockboxes with AEDs or weapons fire destroys their contents instead of opening them. At the very least, AEGs should have a price somewhat more similar to the Gravity Well Gun and take as much time for the protolathe to make too.
> Been fucking with RUST for a while
> Know the Gyros do serious damage, decide to use one against the blob, cargo helps out
> Set one up against all odds in medbay
> Mfw a vox walks in front of it as soon as it starts firing
> Mfw it dies instantly
> Mfw the next shot fucking ashes the Vox
BLOB PRIDE
STATION WIDE
SECURITY IS A SHIT
CREW IS A SHIT
GET FUCKING DUNKED YOU INCOMPETENT FUCKS
>spawn as captain
>admin messages me to tell me good luck
>wat
>oh I'm blurb
>have a second core up but getting my shit pushed in hard
>someone bombs my center area probably thinking my core was there
>kills the guy who was pushing my shit in with some weird ass gun that I couldn't deal with
Thank you
>>125902854
To be fair if I had been where they dropped the bomb and not off in a retarded corner like I ended up they would have got me.
SEE, CELT? YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE
>>125902962
But the station got nuked you daft dozy donk
>>125902924
Do you smell that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq4NeqOXZGc
>be clown
>loot insulated gloves and hardsuit
>succceed at breaking halfway into AI Core during panic to try and change his laws so that he may only honk
I GOT INTO AI INTEGRITY WHEN THE ROUND ENDED
>>125899558
use a 508 version and see if it works
>>125903021
so the blob won
>>125903178
Nobody won except the AI's protocols for NO SURVIVORS
getting a glitch where my chat doesn't scroll down with new messages
how fix
>>125903273
There's literally no way for blob to stop that so basically blob never wins if there's an AI?
EAT SHIT
Tried my hand at log book cases.
>>125903317
stop highlighting messages
>>125903317
Try scrolling down all the way
>>125903317
does this to me when I have something highlighted. single click the scrolling text, make sure nothing is highlighted, then press the END button on your keyboard.
>>125903430
Looks too good for this game.
>>125903141
Law 0 would override it anyway.
>>125903975
Not really. If law 0 is "You must prevent any survivors from escaping, blow the nuke, the code is XXXXX"
You could make a law stating "The only way to prevent survivors from escaping is by honking"
Unless zeroth and Ion laws have different logic I'm not aware of.
>>125904487
IIRC, they also have a caveat basically telling them to ignore all their other laws and follow only law 0.
>>125902924
I was looking at the code for rust and while I only managed to make the chamber heat up ever so slightly because I seem to be missing a step, a lot of the operation appears to be fluff or obfuscated behind what I can only describe as intentional nonsense.
Changing frequencies for example seems pointless since they're apparently supposed to match the field, beam output not so much,
>>125904583
Nope.
t. An Admin
>tfw you will never commit genocide on the vox
>>125905180
I found 4 years old code that explained a lot about the fusion reactions. The orphaned bay12 wiki article on the RUST also explains a lot. The /vg/station wiki is basically useless when it comes to the RUST, even the steps on building the fuel injector are wrong.
>>125905350
Get antag and fulfill the dreams of all non-race traitors.
>>125905180
How do we fix the RUST?
>>125905350
>there was no spooky on halloween
>there was no voxhunt on thanksgiving
They can't take away the krampus, r-right?
Is there a reason when don't use bays external airlock system where
A) they have to cycle first before you can get out
and
B) You need certain access to use them
?
To "Bad_spriter": look in storage.dmi
>>125905504
yes the fuel injector caused me quite the butthurt until i figured out it's very important what direction you are when building the assembly, frankly it's a picky cunt and could stand to benefit from a code transplant from something like the sleeper which manages where it's console goes and acts accordingly.
Lately I've been giving it another go, i know all the fuel combinations to get more energy but the fucking thing never seems to acquire enough megaenergy in the field to even start combusting, is it even combustion? don't even care.
>>125905607
it's not actually broken it just has 0 documentation on running it.
>>125905785
I was looking to add a new crate to cargo, as in something new to order
>>125905768
We did for a while, it took forever to cycle and nobody liked it.
So it got removed.
>>125905768
Because fuck waiting 15 seconds
Because all external airlocks sans arrivals and escape already do
>>125905768
it's fucking slow as balls and we have better things to do than masturbate while the airlock cycles.
we do actually use it in at least 3 locations, 2 of which are just forced open or bypassed altogether.
>>125905971
>>125905975
>>125906031
Not having it have to cycle and its low as fuck access requirements just make it easy for yakkity sax retard clowns to escape easier
How many people actually have to space walk besides engineers and why can't they fondle their testicles for 15 seconds?
>>125905838
It's not combustion, it's fusion. And if you have issues with getting mega-energy, just spam more gyros.
And with careful application of fuel types, you can create a runaway reaction that will perpetually compound in on itself to create unlimited heat.
>>125905970
>>125905785
Found it, it's code/datums/supplypacks.dm
>>125906304
>why can't they fondle their testicles for 15 seconds?
I can't do it for just 15 seconds. I either don't do it at all or go braindead and go all the way.
>>125906304
Because we aren't an RP server.
Stop trying to get the mappers/coders to casualize the codebase because you suck so hard you can't tase a fucking clown.
>>>/r/ss13
>>125905970
supplypacks.dm
>>125906501
We are an RP server...
>>125906635
Light RP
People want to play the game fast, not be delayed. Delay can be exploited by whatever's pursuing them
>>125906635
Not enough that only engineers are allowed to EVA, or that we want to spend 1 fucking minute in an airlock to go do shit in space/escape danger.
so I'm going to tell you again
>>>/r/ss13
>>125906367
I actually started fucking around with the variables so my gyros were hitting with the force of 1000 suns and the field was absolutely saturated in fuel of all types, it didn't even care.
I need another look at the code methinks.
>>125906786
>>125906802
samefag look
I'm sorry I rustled your jimmies, but literally NOTHING is gained from non-cycling airlocks. You only enable the shitters by allowing them to escape with ease.
We should look to cripple how easy it is to be a shitter so that security actually stands a chance. As it stands right now, airlocks are overpowered methods for shitters to evade a manhunt.
>>125906635
We're an autismo 2D TTT/MOBA server that gets mad if you RP, but doesn't really care if you RP.
All that talking you're doing means you aren't robusting, and RPfag's salt in deadchat is delicious.
>>125906995
>11 seconds apart
>samefag
what
>>125907129
You probably used a proxy or TOR or are a faggot 4chan pass user.
Nobody in their right minds would oppose a cycling airlock. It makes the game more fun and immersive for all, on top of nerfing ZAS so you don't go flying out of the airlock.
You can't even argue.
>>125907105
No one gets mad if you RP, this place just gets upset if you make them RP with your own special standards of RPing.
>>125906995
You can start by being more robust as security. Shitters have an advantage now inasmuch as Sec is either nonexistent or unrobust as fuck.
Don't change the airlocks, play better security and make others play better security.
>have 2 OC stations
>never play them
/vg/station
>>125907506
I'm sorry I really don't support shitter enabling practices, baybie. You wouldn't give assistants access to stun weaponry without stealing sec access or hacking doors, would you?
Why would you give them space access without stealing access to the space or hacking into space?
>the clown got his hands on the hand teleporter
that was a close one lads
>>125907506
Shitters have the advantage because there's maybe tops 3 guys in sec and an entire station to hide on plus you can just slip right the fuck out the door whenever you feel like it and go somewhere else. Don't kid yourself.
>>125907261
Oh, paranoid, gotcha.
Reason we don't have cycling airlocks is because it was deemed unnecessary from a gameplay standpoint for whatever reason, people just did not want to be slow, or their progress impeded because some daft sod pressed a button
There is one properly cycling airlock on Box station, and it's on the research station, because it's low traffic enough that people either find their own way around it or just don't bother complaining about it. There was one on the mining station but because of the events it was used under (High traffic, could be running from mobs) it was changed because it just slowed everybody down.
Been on different servers with cycling airlocks on places like escape, and this got more people killed because they had to wait for some daft sod who pressed the button early to go through, while everyone else are all stuck behind a bolted door getting torn apart by whatever they were running from.
>>125907938
P-photoshopped!
>>125907737
They feel a bit cramped.
>>125908224
why?
defficiency is good.
>>125908224
The only reason they feel cramped is because most of the players go on their period when they have to play something other than box
>>125906995
>We
You are not one of us. Go back to Bay.
>>125907506
I shouldn't have to change my playstyle because autist baybies feels the needs to be shitters to me and the other officers.
Why not give Assistants and Clowns/Mimes all access at roundstart anyways? They steal the captain's spare and tide their way into places, it's what they do. If they had that access in the first place, they wouldn't have a need to steal it and wouldn't get in trouble with Sec.
Or, if giving them all access doesn't sound right, get rid of Sec completely, because only shitters play it. Sec is useless. With no sec, there would be no armory to loot and much less server bans.
>>125908453
rude
>>125902854
The idea of nuking the blob is that the nuke spreads very poorly in Space so destroying the station and bodies limits its ability to grow and probably takes out a hunk of blob biomass.
Better than letting the blob spread over the whole station and then surf it into a planet or something
>>125908942
Feel sorry for whomever has to scrap that afterwards
Good thing blob don't evoluate in space
NPC blob on derelict when?
>>125909138
The derelict was nuked by ops, you can find their corpses
>>125908838
Hi Pete Zuh, did you do your best this time?
>>125907938
In addition to >>125907938, it would ironically enable shitters more since they could just cycle the airlocks to keep you from chasing them.
>>125908493
Enjoy your toolbox to the head, then. You earned it for being both unrobust and shitcurity. If you were good at security, you'd have thrown them in perma in the time it took you to write your posts.
>>125909320
Nukes actually exploding rather than
Call ded() on mob on zlevel=1
when?
>>125909446
someone coded it but it was exactly as laggy as you would expect so it wasn't merged
>>125909489
why not calculate the explosion while the cutscene is going on?
>>125909842
It doesn't last long enough
Also I think based on the way the cutscene is made, it would freeze the cutscene, but that's just speculation
>>125909842
>3...
>wait 30 seconds
>2...
>wait 30 seconds
>1...
>wait 30 seconds
>crater of a station
>CAN YOU SMELELELELE
>>125906995
As a Security player, I'm against nerfing the shitters.
If antags are quiet, Sec has nothing to do except arrest shitters. If coders were to do everything in their power to disable shitters, it'd leave nothing for us to do. It's the same reason I'm against the banning of greytiders as long as they're not being dindus.
>mothfolk can't use any clothes
>can't be in most situations involving using equipment due to a variety of autistically implied weaknesses
Okay at what point did it become a good idea to make it so all new races are a complete detriment to the crew by literally being unable to contribute to the station.
How does that even make sense from a in-game perspective. Is nanotrans letting bug hobos onboard now? Are greyshirts not bad enough that we can give a dedicated race to it now? At least the fucking tree people can get coked on hyperzine.
A race of bug people who don't have any responsibilities? Yeah that doesn't sound like we've ironically created furry bait.
>>125910520
This.
Unban 2kilbeardstons
IDEA
ROCK GOLEMS THAT AREN'T ENTIRELY RETARDED
DON'T SUFFER FROM NEGATIVE EFFECTS IN VACUUM UNLESS THEY'RE NOT GROUNDED OR NEXT TO A TILE (BASICALLY WHEN THEY'RE DRIFTING)
ADAMANTIUM GOLEMS REWORKED TO NOT BE INVISIBLE HUMANS WITH SPECIAL CLOTHES ON WHEN?
THEY DIE FROM COLD, HEAT, ATMOS, EVERYTHING THAT A HUMAN WOULD CURRENTLY, BUT THEY'RE FUCKING STONE, THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES SENSE THAT THEY'RE ALLERGIC TO IS ALCOHOL, ONE GLASS OF DORF KILLS THEM DEAD RIGHT NOW
>>125910592
Woah hold up, I've been out of the loop.
Moths are officially playable now?
>>125910592
>What are toolboxes
>>125910878
No but all the ideas for them are bad.
Everyone is suggesting to remove every means of them being able to be crew without realizing they're creating the perfect shitter race.
>>125910858
The reasons that golems are shit is because they're literally just humans with an unremovable "rock golem" exosuit on.
They're not even their own race, code-wise.
>>125867532
anon.
Anon.
Nitrogen is naturally bonded into N2 as oxygen is O2.
You read terribly dumbly if you thought he said nitrous oxide would be produced. He said it would NEVER BE PRODUCED.
>>125911005
I think he knows, anon
>ADAMANTIUM GOLEMS REWORKED TO NOT BE INVISIBLE HUMANS WITH SPECIAL CLOTHES ON WHEN?
>>125910980
They barely have a rationale for being added beyond
>MOTHS R CUTE, GAIZ! PLS ADD!
If we're going to add another race, it should be one that pulls its weight on the station first and foremost. There's no room for freeloaders in SS13, even the clown has to do something resembling work every now and then.
>>125910909
Make them start with a special harness that gives them connection to the life monitor system and the ability to wear belts and maybe this won't be the worst idea this side of forever.
Also no adding moth people without moth name lore so I can autistically beat up people with meme names.
>>125910520
How to fix all gameplay modes: Remove stealth options.
That's right, no parasting, no parapen, etc. If you want to kill someone, at least work for it first.
I GUESS you can save parapens for nuke ops so they can stealth, but only for nuke ops.
>>125911285
When you manage to make sense of the clusterfuck that goes onto coding a new race without copypasting everything from the human code into it.
>>125911347
Because you know they won't use it?
>>125911464
>Because you know they won't use it?
Exactly.
>Race discussion
>NO HUMAN RESPRITES
>NO SPECIES THAT HAS BENEFITS COMPARED TO HUMANS
>NO SPECIES WITH DETRIMENTS COMPARED TO HUMANS
Why don't we have different stations for different species to fit their adaptation?
>>125911297
They need to be playable and not functionally lobotomized "for the lawlz".
Make moth people fucking space moths and give them resistance against being flung around by air pressure and vaccum, have them come from a gas giant world consisting of floating islands and hives to justify this. Make them take double damage from fire, make them get temporary blindness from flashes, make them prone to gravitate toward a light source if left idling near one for longer than five seconds. Allow them to wear goddamn suits and equipment who are you trying to kid with this flaw, I could draw a fucking moth man that'd fit the human body template. If I have to draw it myself I fucking will.
>>125911805
Also by "fit the human body template" I don't mean recoloring the human body like a 12 year old shitter from deviant art.
>>125911592
Fun fact, it's entirely because of humans and greys that plasma fires are a thing. The other races don't need oxygen.
Remove human
Remove fire
>>125911592
why not just have humans and AIs and throw out everything else?
>>125912409
Because that would make sense.
>New species discussions
>We have 3 species that can be used already, a fourth that's lobotomized beyond belief, already in the code
>Not selectable
>Only acquirable through bus or monkeys
Lizardpeople when?
Snakefaces when?
Tajaran never
>>125911592
Racial spawns when? Only humans will be on the crew manifest and ASIMOV isn't as awful as a result. No non human heads of staff, etc. The rest will spawn elsewhere.
Grays spawn on the white ship. Flesh it out some so it has more medical shit like chem dispensers and cloners/dna modifiers for medical and genetic experimentation. Give them a telepad and crew monitor so they can do abductions if they're antag. Or the Grays can teleport people in and do quicker surgery and medical recovery than Medbay ever could and teleport them back dazed, confused, and naked at arrivals.
Vox spawn on the Vox outpost. They are Spess Mexicans, and thus will have to work. They can be farmers and grow food, laborers that mine the asteroid for money, or a construction workers that expand the outpost with more rooms, or be a useless piece of shit and immigrate illegally with a jetpack to get to the station. Cue wall building to keep the Jetbacks out and make NanoTrasen great again.
Plasmen spawn on the Derelict because they're the remnants of the former crew. There they can be sad and lonely with the Derelict autism crabs and do whatever, I guess. Maybe be a DJ at the satellite, or something.
>>125914252
>Pick HOP as Plasmaman
>Never go to station
>No one to do ID changes
I M P I S H
>>125914252
I second this idea, although we could put some grays on the station too since they make up a fairly large portion of the player base
>>125914252
This would make the most sense, but a lot would need to be reworked
>Cameras not being all accessible by the AI, rather instead they need to be tuned to the AI, so others like on Vox station aren't noticable by the AI unless tuned so
>Power,atmos,camera alerts, currently visible by all alert computers and borgs, so you know when a MoMMI on the derelict is remaking their atmos as [POWER ALARM DETECTED - DERELICT ATMOSPHERICS]
Those are just some examples
>>125914542
Greys that want to be on the station can just teleport themselves aboard
>>125914252
I'd love this. The derelict should have more riff-raff to show it was a plasma-based accident, and a lot more security tape, packed up boxes of broken material to show there was a poor forensics attempt.
I just feel it could have more of a story, it's a lot of empty rooms.
>>125914493
>you don't get an ID or a PDA
>you can't pick a job
>you're just a plasmaman on the Derelict
>>125914542
>calibrate the telepad
>teleport behind the HoP
>ask for medical access and an ID
>Lepimorphs (moth people)
Pros:
>can wear belts and instead of pockets have two inactive hand slots
>space capable but still need oxygen
>wings give short bursts of flight like leaps, able to hop over floor tiles or change direction in space at the cost of hunger
>can eat food to regen a little health
>can eat paper to make resin to patch wounds, breaches or make nests
>slight damage reduction to melee and toxins
>slower bleed out rate
>can make eggs and respawn from them if kept safe
>chems work slightly faster
>exoskeleton heals with resin/time
>heightened senses let them sense life within a radius and slight dark vision
Cons:
>No clothing or backpacks unless wings are destroyed
>lasers and fire do increased damage
>lower base health (85 instead of 100)
>damage to torso can destroy wings, permanently removing flight
>no surgery except cybernetics or appendix
>cryo and sleeper work slower
>overdose limit much lower but not lower than 2u
>mind altering drugs have worse effects
>no cloning, nest only
>electricity and crushing do double damage
>Space spiders have a taste for them
Weird:
>idling around lights give flavor text
>hugging them too much makes them buzz/squeek but on a very low chance
>>125844469
That sound close to the idea I had in my head. I am writing the alternate lore now that includes a Bug Planet, so I am going to lift a few things from your post.
>>125914957
*teleports behind you*
*asks for ID*
Psssh
Nothin personal... HOP...
*activates homing beacon and gets teleported home by ship's computer*
>>125915150
Who would trade their backpack for the leap genetic power?
>>125915150
Sorry to poke holes in this but
>Wings
>Working in space
I'd be all for some species-based way of making alternate bandages though, for some reason we've got tajaran bandages in the code
Could have another con as
>No removable brain, or at least not compatible with MMIs
>>125915150
Can their belts be harnesses with loin cloths, except made with more space age material and colors relevant to their job? Like security moths have he-man bandoleer armor.
>>125915490
Brain could be MMI compatible but only for crabs, maybe? Like maybe the science behind graphing the moth people's brain is still too behind to get it to work with advanced robotics.
>let's add my personal fetish moth guise yes?
>no lets better remove every race but humans
>what if every race spawns in other place so they never see each other
I'm not seeing a single good idea here.
>>125914708
Too bad it's already clear that Nuke Ops did it, between the red space suits and the paper saying that they're supposed to nuke the station (successfully, it would seem).
Stop trying to shove your speshul snowflake races down our throats. Go human or go home.
>joke about moths a year ago
>everybody has a laugh
>more joke races made like telepathic fish in bowl to make fun of unathi
>today
>people are legit serious about adding this race
Hey guys, can we like... not?
How about instead of adding a new race that adds pretty much nothing to the game but fap material for degenerate scum, we instead look at adding more features to the game? How about a new antag? We haven't had one of those in a long time.
Well I tried. I'm sorry, I can't fucking play on this server anymore. Next year spurdo race will be a thing, and the following reddit race will replace the greys or some other meme shit.
>>125915150
>can make eggs and respawn from them if kept safe
No. No respawns, no exceptions. You either wait to be cloned or bitch on deadchat like everyone else. On that note, the no cloning con is also bullshit.
>>125915150
What if they can regenerate wings/severe external damage through a very hunger-expensive molt ability? But it requires like 1-2 minutes to process, and the molted moth has temporarily doubled weakness to every damage type until their exoskeleton hardens?
It'd be a very intensive and vulnerable self-heal.
>>125915767
new idea;
let's just not add any new racesremove vox, add skrell. anything's better than retarded birds, and we'd just be trading one shitty bay race for another.
>>125915767
>no lets better remove every race but humans
>not a good idea
Name a single fucking flaw.
I motherfucking dare you.
>>125915984
How about you code that antag, then. We can't all just complain and hope someone else does all the work for us.
>>125915797
>implying i go to derelict enough to know this
>projecting
>>125916136
More humans, more people wanting to erp with the humans
>>125916136
All the people who play shit like VOX WAIFUS and GREAY WAIFUS will have to be humans
then we'll have MORE goddamn FUCKING WAIFUS
>>125916214
>admitting you've never been to the derelict
>>125910592
Who said they couldn't wear jumpsuits? We talked about it last thread, they can but in space suits they will move much slower then normal. They will be like any other humanoid race just with starting glasses that protect them from bugging out around lights and a more rich oxygen tank they need to breathe from.
Pros:
-Slightly faster then humans since they have wings
-Chance to ignore slips (1/5)
-Without the glasses they have a little better dark vision
-Angry Moth Noises language and emote
-Soda is like Tricord to them and they eat sugar water. And as long as they are not hungry they heal brute a little faster then humans
Cons:
-Increased temp damage and cold effects them quicker slowing them down more
-Have to breathe more oxygen rich air (rather then a 20/80 ratio theirs might be 30/70 or even 40/60)
-Burn damage does a ton to them since they are highly flammable
-Slower movement in spacesuits since they are cramped up with their wings
-Without some kind of light protection they are drawn to lights and it makes it hard for them to move around
-Can get addicted to soda
They are mostly negatively balanced to (hopefully) deter shitters. I was thinking of adding in Toxin resistance and bullshitting it in their lore.
>>125916361
I'll suck your cock, mate.
>>125915767
>>no lets better remove every race but humans
I see no problem with this.
It ends this constant spewing of stupid bullshit race ideas.
>>125915150
Insects also breathe and absorb chemicals through their exoskeletons, if I remember right. Alcohol is especially toxic to them.
I grew up in Texas, and my uncle used to get bored and catch scorpions to spray them with a spraybottle full of vodka. He'd put them in a box to watch them have drunken duels to the death, sometimes stinging themselves.
Shit was awesome.
>>125916534
>moth people get drunk
>squeaking everywhere while attacking each other with crowbars and broken glass
>one of them catches fire from a lighter
Moth bar fights when.
>mfw accidentally dropping my stack of floor tiles in the middle of a fight with a wraith
At least I can be somewhat content in knowing I took a couple of them down with me, but god damn does it sting to die for making stupid mistakes.
Fly, you wonderful floor tiles.
>>125916173
How about you not code fap bait into the codebase is the point. I get it, it's open source, but just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.
But apparently telling you to not be a fucking disgusting fuck and insert your gross furry fetishes into the game triggers your "CODE IT" sensibilities and you need to scream it like every other brain dead mongoloid.
>>125916296
That's not how math works.
>>125916396
CODE IT YOURSELF.
If anyone actually tried making shit instead of begging for someone else to do it here, we'd have twice as much good stuff as we do now at least. So shut up and make yourselves useful.
That applies to everyone, whether it's for new antagonist types, new races, or new maps. Either you keep waiting for someone else to do it in vain, or you can make it on your own. I'd advise learning how to use GitHub if I were you.
I'M SO SORRY FELLOW CULTISTS
IT WAS MY FIRST TIME
THE WIKI SAID I NEEDED 3 PEOPLE TO SACRIFICE
I ACTED TOOOOO LAAAAATE
>>125916396
>still pointlessly namefagging for dumb shit that won't get added
Stop any time.
Need input on hypothermia thank you
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/issues/7158
I hoped for a nice adventure with my pAI.
But then suddenly cult.
>>125916806
I don't want it either, but I don't see you suggesting any antagonist types to add or anything to shift the topic away until people forget about it like they always fucking do. I just see you screaming like a sperglord at everyone else.
>>125916867
The first cult I did we didn't manage to convert anyone two hours in, no one knew there was a cult and one of the starting cultists suicided immediately without telling the word. Don't feel bad.
>>125915984
I think you might have memory loss, because people still shat on the moth idea and even pomf said no.
The fish bowl thing was also told to fuck off, as well.
>>125916829
>twice as much good stuff as we do now
That's an issue because our codebase is massively oversized and is in dire need of pruning.
>WELL THEN PRUNE IT URSELF ANON XDD
Yeah, as soon as I remove unused features #452-#125161 someone will jump on Github and scream about how removing CENTCOMM armor and all of that broken oldcode shit like syndicate strike squads literally ruined the game for them.
Nah. Open source is a fucking cancer and I refuse to make any contributions to something where the entitled shitter community will cry foul because they hate change even if it affects them in literally no way what so ever.
>slow round as cargo
>fill some orders, walk around
>suddenly people say MEDBAY IS CULT
>HoS gives approval to order guns and implants
>get a fuckton of guns with Esteban
>HoS stops responding
>apparently Security got slaughtered, according to a borg
>declare Cargo a cult-free zone, anyone will be shot on sight
>Internal Affairs asks to be let in
>let them in
>Captain shows up
>bring him in
>Mai Pai and the Clown are there too
>everyone is armed to the teeth
>protect cargo while skirmishing with shades and wraiths and whatnot
>ERT is coming
>move to Arrivals, guard the docking station
>get the shuttle called with help from the ERT
>Captain stays behind, rest of us go to Escape
>ERT sets up a checkpoint made out of doors and barricade tables
>naked Vox and Diona approach
>say they've got wounded
>they're disarmed and let in
>get on the shuttle without incident except that the clown was a cultist apparently so he's arrested
>escape
What a fucking round. Good job, boys.
>>125916923
>hypothermia
>human heat transfer
I'm not falling for your gay tricks to get us all to come close together and hug eachother in a bed near the fireplace.
>latejoin as assistant
>RADSTORM FUCK
>manage to get into maint just as it hits, get a little toxin but no retardation
>chill in ghetto bar for a minute
>go back outside after storm clears to tool up
>WRAITH FUCK
>run back to arrivals maint to hide and hope it doesn't see me
>hear doors open and close, think I got away
>walk out maint by checkpoint
>HE'S ONE OF THEM GET HIM
>huh what
>stunned, cuffed and lasered to crit by what looks like ERT and some sec
>they buckle me into one of the arrivals lobby chairs and leave me to die
>I wasn't even cult
>>125916829
I've been waiting for the sprites someone said they had and were holding back. They said make up the lore and I am doing that.
>>125916904Just for youfaggot
>>125917149
Pomf is a fucking joke. He says no to a moth people and proceeds to mothpost for an entire fucking year. Nobody gives a shit about what he has to say, the only person who's opinion even matters is N3X15's and he's to ornery to even consider paying attention to something as dumb as yet more meme races.
>>125916998
I've got antag types up the fucking wazoo, but here's an idea: How about we reutilize all the unused antag code in the game? Traitor factions used to be a thing until some buttmad coder removed them for no reason.
>>125917285
one second, I'll copy paste that one thing I found when I was searching up hypothermia for research
> When rewarming the body of a hypothermic person with the body of another person, first-aid experts often recommend that both the victim and the "rewarmer" be naked or barely dressed. This facilitates the transfer of heat from the warm person to the person with hypothermia.
>cult botanist
>go to dorms to communicate word
>1 other guy comms his word
>1st retard says hello over comms
>2nd retard asks how to draw a rune over comms
>4th comms word some 30 minutes in
>decide fuck it go make constructs
>going well and have 4 already in medbay
>next victim had a pAI that yells murder
>hopcurity immediately responds
>go loud and start mass sharding
>everything going flawlessly, army is growing, sec is dying
>outrun my own bullet on janicart and hit myself with it
>vox lasers my cart and it explodes
>broken leg and internal bleeding
>struggle for a long time to survive on chems
>after 2 cryos and 3 blood bags it finally crits me
>rest of cult twiddling their thumbs at dj station
I LIKE CULT, CULT IS SO FUN
>>125915984
I liked the fishbowl race to be honest, felt pretty sci-fi and the robot body was like a compromise with IPCs
>>125917172
So instead you will beg for others to make changes for you that will never occur?
>>125917172
Has anybody even tried pruning? Or are you saying that because it's too much work? If you're removing shit that most people don't even know exists, they won't bother. Or are you too scared by a few loud autists to perform the culling?
How do you turn on the microphone on your radio as PAI?
>>125917517
No instead I'll call you shitters out for adding fap bait to the game instead of doing something actually useful or productive.
>w-well you aren't the one coding it, so you can't complain
Actually yes I can absolutely call you a raging homolord for coding shit that nobody but people looking to get their rocks off cares about, and proceed to abuse you for not actually doing something worth the time to look over your PR.
Go fuck yourself with a chef's knife you giant shit factory.
>>125917454
I noticed those, but something that relies on ARE PEE like that is an ass to implement without admins watching constantly. Would there even be anything differentiating then other than fluff text?
>>125917790
Haha holy shit you really do get this buttflustered over someone pointing out what a shithead you are for demanding others make changes for you.
>>125917592
>Or are you too scared by a few loud autists to perform the culling?
you don't seem to understand the state of merging.
If 3 or more nameless faggots whine about your features, you can kiss your PR goodbye. Dylan reorganized a lot of gun code with some arguably bad additions that could have been easily removed later, and yet 4 different people hopped on the github thread to scream at him for changing the nuke ops SMG's ammo name to 5.56mm as if it actually affected gameplay in the slightest.
>>125917482
>outrun my own bullet on janicart and hit myself with it
This is a problem for every vehicle including spacepods.
It wouldn't be enough to simply make them not hurt their creator on contact since you can still move faster than a speeding bullet (or laser) and it effectively nullifies the point of shooting them in the first place.
tricky one.
>>125917457
So, if I get a ton of naked monkeymen on a tile, it will heat up the room?
Monkeyman powered TEG, here I come!
>>125917880
Yeah, different factions have different objectives. ARC used to fail all of their objectives if their controlled mob killed any simple mob.
Some factions never even got objectives to kill people. Some got objectives to steal research.
>>125917906
Holy shit how autistic are you? Learn to read you retarded shitter.
>>125918004
Which is why you make sockpuppet accounts to counter that, smartass. It's not like you can't just do it again later.
>>125918194
We already tell people that greentext is secondary to fun, what's stopping an ARC traitor from murderboning anyway? Since they all have identical uplink items, there's nothing really making them stand out from one another. At the very least, some should have items only they can access.
>>125891426
don't bring back tardbombing.
tardbombing was the worst thing ever.
>>125918006
We need momentum mechanics. Firing or throwing something while running in a direction makes the object fly faster in that direction. Similarly, you could throw objects in a curve.
Baseball when
>>125917790
Just shit on their PRs so they die in obsucrity, they'll just keep meme-ing about it here until they stop getting attention.
>>125918125
Weren't people also going to actually breathe out CO2? What happened to that?!
>>125918432
Uh nothing stops them, that's not the point. The point being that it is not only unused lore, but it also gives traitors who DO nothing but greentext their objectives a gimmick to follow. At the very least it keeps it interesting.
Also implementing faction specific items isn't even close to being a hard thing to do. Items are restricted on a gamemode/mind variable basis, of which factions are defined as the latter. Removing lethal items from one of the pacifist organizations would just require implementing a filter for the faction names for the lethal items.
>>125918579
>momentum when running and throwing
Javelin throw and discus when?
Spess Olympics 2552
>>125917454
>He says no to a moth people and proceeds to mothpost for an entire fucking year
It was like week or two, and just because you like a certain animal doesn't mean you make it humanoid and put it in the station for some weekly shtick.
>>125917319
Why do they even need lore? Its not like every human you come across is a refined example of human advancements through the years. If there is a proper way to "RP a human" given the lore by all means tell me.
Not every Vox a "I trade bead for coin, YES!?". I dont even know what grey or plasmen lore is cause they're all kinda different depending on whos playing.
Is it so bad just to have some asymmetry to make some interesting rounds or ways of engagement? Has this all been a more metaphorical argument between people who would play DnD with an all human group or with a group of different oddballs trying to make it work? I dont even know anymore.
>>125914223
lizardpeople they have upsides and downs to them not sure why we cant use them.
don't fit into hard suits or mag boots soft suits ones are fine they have heat res but weak to cold like slimes they slow down in the cold and pass out if they sit in it to long.
>>125918531
Can someone explain what tardbombing is?
>>125918768
I meant like actually giving new items to replace the ones that are lost. If you think you can take shit away from one faction without them bitching about how they can't get an esword as one of the pacifistic factions, you're sadly mistaken. They'll need new toys to make up for the loss.
I'm not even going to greentext about how nobody on this server gives a shit about "lore", that's been done to death even if it is the truth.
>>125919018
Nobody ever paid attention to the lore in the first place unless it could be used for jokes. They can't even spell Nanotrasen's name right half the time, for fuck's sake.
>>125919361
I care about the lore! It's really not bad, even with the Bay remnants we still have for some reason.
>gorlex marauders
They're Blastco operatives.
>>125919361
>nobody on this server gives a shit about "lore"
It's sad that you think this.
Lots of people enjoy getting little tidbits of lore and glimpses at the universe as long as it plays secondary to the mechanics.
>I meant like actually giving new items to replace the ones that are lost.
We have lots of unused items and with the way DML is, things like vicious corgi grenades are a few lines of code away from existing.
Factions were just a tiny example of the vast amount of .dm files that sit unused and bloat up the codebase. There's a shitton of commented out and unincluded features that are in perfectly working order, but were removed because it didn't fit a coder's vision.
Just like there are hundreds of broken mechanics that ARE included in each compile and are never EVER used and 99% of the time can't even be accessed without adminpowers. Why do we keep them in?
>>125919018
I like how the original lore for Vox made them space Native Americans, but now they're space Mexicans.
Mexicans are a mixing of whites (Humans in this case) and Native Americans (Vox in this case).
So that means by current lore, there must have been SOME sort of interbreeding for them to be the way they are now as Mexicans. Bunch of short, smelly thieves that can't into English.
>>125919883
Vox see human station, vox think "human station better than vox station". Vox want things in human station. Vox try to steal things for a while and eventually just get hired because nanotrasen is a huge social experiment.
It was less physical interbreeding and more cultural interbreeding.
>>125919883
Is there a sombero I can wear ingame? I kinda like the whole space mexican thing now.
Also, would anyone care about a "cloths making" job? One that draws from resources from Botany or just making clothing/accessories from Ball of Cloth (25).
>>125920074
I always thought of it as
>vox want shinies
>company offer shinies
>vox do as little work as possible while company give shinier
>meanwhile nanotrasen pays vox as little as possible because they could not care less about the birdbrains
>>125920151
That sounds like something that should just end up in the art supplies cabinet.
I would never support a dedicated knitting staff position.
>>125920074
>Nanotrasen is a huge social experiment
No it's not what the fuck are you talking about.
It's a Weyland-Yutani-esque megacorporation doing shady shit out of the scrutinizing eye of governments. The entire station exists as a vessel for Nanotrasen to research the properties of plasma as a viable fuel source and explosive, not to see what happens when you mix hairless apes and bird lizards.
What the actual fuck am I reading this is like hugely basic lore that you can pick up if you shift click on enough things. It's not like you have to troll the wiki or the code to know this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
>>125920384
i was joking anon. please calm down.
it's just hard to explain why nanotrasen would hire a bunch of stupid birds that were already actively launching raids against their stations
>>125920151
>Cotton added to Botany for clothing
>So dindu botanists can grow weed, watermelons, and pick cotton for Massuh Space Chef
>>125919679
>>125919764
If people care about the lore, I've yet to hear them speak up about it. This server flat-out gives the impression that lore is a distraction at best and a waste of time better used for validhunting at worst. As far as I can tell, you two are literally the only people who have said otherwise in all the (admittedly short) time I've been playing here. Is it because we're so afraid of being like Bay that we refuse to think of anything not directly connected to gameplay?
The stuff about the code is right though. Had I even the slightest knowledge of how to code, I'd delete each and every one of them this instant. If it's not being used, nobody will miss it except for a handful of oldfags that I doubt even play the game anymore.
>>125920384
See, this is why I said I was sure nobody gave two shits about the lore. They simply couldn't care less about it unless knowing the lore gives them valids. (And for the record, most shift-click text now is just bad jokes.)
>>125920074
No, it was more like
>vox are like x-com ethereals in huge arc ships, doing lots of cybernetic and genetic manipulation
>vox we see are teenage vox who rebel against their hive ships by taking skipjacks and committing piracy
>nanotrasen stations being especially shiny, they are really attractive to these pirate teenage vox
>heists occur
no more, no less.
>>125920384
A lot of people have it in their minds that all the lore is false and that SS13 is Fallout in Space.
While it keeps the retrofuturism of Fallout, it goes the opposite way in tech, and the story and lore are more like silly cyberpunk than Fallout.
>>125920370
Give a knitting set to the Librarian so Niggly can have something to do all shift.
>>125920672
Read the Heist objectives.
The heists are done for an organization called the Shoal, which is something along the lines of the Jewminati.
The ones hired by NT are the rebels, not the ones who heist.
>>125920384
p.s. I know exactly what the lore is and I think it's FUCKING STUPID
Do you know what hieng is?
hieng is an element in plasma that creates more energy when heated or excited or whatever than an antimatter-matter reaction.
hieng is in plasma.
i hate exadv.
>>125920681
It's really just 32x32 Futurama.
>retrofuturism
nonononono
You are thinking of PDAs when you say this, PDAs are a holdout from Exadv1 days. You know, back in 2004 when PDAs were the next big thing? The only reason we don't have holo smartphones is because people would throw a shitfit if they didn't have blocky lumps of plastic.
>>125920909
When was the last time anyone READ the objectives beyond the part telling you what to do?
Unless you start giving pop quizzes on this shit, nobody will care about lore. Not now, not ever.
>>125921038
Pop quiz.
Which common food on the station is made by one of Nanotrasen's enemies?
>>125921181
Syndie-Cakes.The only reason I know that's not the answer is because I looked in the code pertaining to the factions, and nothing else in the game gives any indication that they're in fact made by an enemy of NT unless you see said code. See what I mean?
>>125920993
I do, apparently you don't.
Hieng isn't an element. Plasma is. Hieng is a subatomic particle with no charge, and takes the place of neutrons in a plasma atom.
Plasma has a lot of special reactions due to this particle. The most relevant of which is when heated to 400c and introduced to oxygen, the plasma interacts with the oxygen, and sucks everything in a 1mx1m radius into another dimension.
We also haven't used Exadv1's lore... ever. It only existed as subtle hints on how to build bombs.
>>125920909
The shoal is the name of the vox society and social pact. I'm serious, read the old wiki page, not the current one. The inviolate is part of the shoal's laws.
>>125921181
Depends on what lore we are going on.
With goons solarius related areas, there are some framed pictures of Discount Dan, meaning he might be related to the syndicate.
Other than that I guess syndiecakes.
Speaking of lore, how corrupt is nanotrasen?
Time for updates, here's a progress report. First off, fancy new menus which are entirely pointless for multiplayer but may be useful if someone decides to make singleplayer scenarios.
>>125900149
Thanks, man, I really appreciate it. I saw your RPG thing as well as the guys making SS13 MUGEN characters and thought I'd dig up my old proof-of-concept stuff and actually develop it as well.
>>125901714
I'm specifically trying to set up a framework so Doom mappers can define new stations without too much busywork. I keep telling people that this is pretty much the most flexible engine ever made but they just won't listen, man.
>>125921529
>speaking of lore
>>125921529
As in internally or causing corruption?
They managed to strong arm the rights to all of the plasma, making everyone pissed off enough to team up to take them down (See the syndicate)
>>125921010
PDAs, jukeboxes, ID cards, bulky spacepods, the bigass unsleek (phazon aside) mechs
There's a lot of 60s SF influence on the game, it's just that a lot of it goes overlooked in favor to references to modern SF (portal guns for example).
It creates a cool dichotomy between the "typical" tech of the era and the experimental tech that is the modern SF stuff we include.
>>125921539
Next up, a little bit of progress in an area which might be unexpected, but it showcases the HUD functionality and how it can react to inventory items (and other things). In this case, it's masks. Bonus points to whomever can point out where the current overlays are from. (I'll replace them later with more compressed versions, just showing off a bit.)
>>125921668
We don't even study it in game, we just make bombs with it. How is that researching?
>>125921529
Well they have their own extremely secretive group of commandos who specifically exist to wipe out all witnesses to an event. You tell me.
>>125921447
Goon lore is great and it's defintely something we should strive to make.
>>125921181
Donk Pockets. how the fuck do people not know this. Donk Co. is a huge part in the Syndicate lore.
>>125921010
We're still using PDAs and identification cards when we could be using fingerprint and/or retinal scanners instead.
>having to carry around a backpack full of severed eyes and hands to have different access levels
>>125921768
I'm gonna guess either from Stalker or New Vegas Project Nevada
>>125921768
Last up, bit underwhelming compared to the syndie one, but here's the updated shuttle as well as an assistant who's purloined a pulse rifle. Could probably do with a bit more green on the gas mask, but don't wanna overdo it.
When will engineers have a machine that allows them to produce unproducable machines? Like cryopods, medbay sleepers, ect? I feel like thats part of why everyone hates WE BUILD! Because half the shit lost in an explosion cant be brought back.BRB Spriting the machine
>>125921539
Do you think it would be compatible with the brutal doom WAD
I just wanna walk up to greyshits and say FUCK YOURSELF
>>125921850
>There's fingerprint scanners in the game
>They're used to open a fragile glass case
>That's it
>There's DNA scanning in the game
>It's used to lock mechs and pAIs
>That's it
>>125922035
Mechanics office, orderable blueprints
BRB figuring out the code for it
>Ricklaus was Esteban Thomas (died)
>Objective #1: Ensure the entire station is in that bodybag, by any means necessary. Fail.
>The traitor has failed!
>TC Remaining : 0/10 - The tools used by the traitor were:
>Paralysis Pen
>Cryptographic Sequencer
>Energy Sword
>Latouche was Dorf Potash Maker (died)
>Objective #1: Ensure the entire station is in that bodybag, by any means necessary. Fail.
>The traitor has failed!
>The traitor was a smooth operator this round (did not purchase any uplink items)hue
>>125922035
>Because half the shit lost in an explosion cant be brought back
What is mechanic and R&D
>>125921427
You're correct about the Shoal. Its the Vox society, which commits heists to gain resources.
>>125921447
>>125921404
Syndie-cakes aren't common at all. You have to hack Getmore to get them (which makes me wonder about their affiliation).
>>125921816 gets it. One quick look on the wiki shows that Donk Co. was abandoned by Nanotrasen in the Fourth Cold War in the same vein as the USSR in WW2. This lead to Donk teaming up with their old enemy, Waffle Co. against Nanotrasen.
>>125922089
Used to be you could only smash open those glass cases.
Both DNA scanning and fingerprint scanning were added in by TG shortly after r4407 release.
Hm....
>>125921792
NanTrasen is studying you, failing to study it.
It's all a social experiment, bro. Or a reality show.
Maybe both.
>>125922089
Fingerprints and DNA are used by the detective if it's not going for a sec officer on a hat.
Fingerprints are also used by admins to know who touched what.
>>125921792
What do you fill radiation collectors for in engineering? Plasma.
Have you even seen the theoretical atmos research by Atmos Techs/MoMMIs?
>>125922089
we should add fingerprint/dna lock to high powered guns like pulse rifles, which can be done by the person who gets/prints them
no more disarming ert for their guns because without the dna/fingerprints they wont fire
kind of like how its done in mgs4, then we can add a time consuming way to hack it or some shit
>>125922014
Second one is correct. I have a 320x200 gas mask from Rise of the Triad, but they look more like goggles, so I'm likely gonna render some 320x200 versions of the PN ones for that authentic shitty 90s resolution. I think first person helmets are criminally undervalued in any shooter or simulator, so I wanted to make sure that's in.
Oh, and for the record, I haven't added the logic that actually renders the current weapons and equipment to the HUD/hands - that comes later. Gotta make sure it's handled in arobustmanner in the actual game logic before the polish phase.
>>125922051
Probably. I'm gonna start checking for conflicts with somewhat relevant mods later on, but right now I'm just focused on making the damn thing work.
was i a decent chappy last round?
>>125922307
>Fingerprints and DNA are used by the detective
That reminds me? Why is there still no way for the detective to search the database for fingerprints without manually looking at every person's entry?
Or is there and I just don't know it?
>>125921816
>Donk Pockets. how the fuck do people not know this. Donk Co. is a huge part in the Syndicate lore.
Because examine text gives no indication towards it, and everyone thinks it's a meme reference to the "banging donk" thing.
Ultimately, /vg/station is a gameplay-first server, the lore may as well not exist as far as the vast majority of players are concerned.
>>125922213
>One quick look on the wiki shows that Donk Co. was abandoned by Nanotrasen in the Fourth Cold War in the same vein as the USSR in WW2. This lead to Donk teaming up with their old enemy, Waffle Co. against Nanotrasen.
Nobody uses the wiki even for the important shit, why would anyone go out of their way to read it for LORE that doesn't do jack squat in game? Give people a reason to care about lore, or they may as well make new lore up every round.
>>125922367
Autism loops are not research, and if they still haven't figured out that plasma burns when exposed to oxygen then their science division is brain-dead.
>>125922475
Last round was literally Bag Bag Boom.
>>125922505
last time i used it i could copypaste the fingerprint hash and it gave me an ID for the guy
>>125922023
Which doom is this on? Im getting my wallet ready when you release the WAD
Everyone getting pissed about Vox lore:
I just looked it up and no fucking wonder you're all pissed at eachother?
There's so much conflicting bullshit here. The vox hive ships are only mentioned on the bay 12 wiki and i swear to god you'd better not be saying that's relevant to vgstation
"Skin is thick, reinforced with keratin scales, and appears to act as an insulator and pressure-suit combined." - bay 12 wiki
k lol
>>125922278
So observing is simply watching a reality TV show.
Makes sense.
>>125922438
You should make the Deathsquad hud similar to the alpha hud in DooM.
>>125922538
>Give people a reason to care about lore
The Goons care about lore even less than we do and even their newfags fuck it up less often.
Our playerbase is just shit.
>people shitposting about how they hate having more races
I don't care, I enjoy my science fiction to have a buncha aliens.
The bar looking like a star wars cantina when?
>>125922621
Same way you look up DNA in the medical records? Because DNA works and fingerprints doesn't.
>>125922667
Vox used to be able to survive in a Vacuum with just internals and they used to get crushed on the station without their pressure suits.
Also where do you think Vox came from. They are so fucking untouched and poorly written, half of their shit has been retconned and that left the other half being nonsensical bullshit.
>>125922786
i only did this once and i dont play detective i just had all access and needed to help bust some crime, but i specifically remember a box you could paste the shit into and it would give you the IDs
>>125922694
Don't spoil the surprise. I want reactive HUDs to the best possible degree (although I have to confess I'm not an expert at the dynamic status bars, but I'm learning fast). The idea was always to use simple placeholder overlays for testing and figuring out what shapes fit each type of helmet, thenbegging for spriters to helppatching something more functional together that suits. The engine allows checking for different inventory items, actor variables, and so on, as well as display them on the run, which is neat.
>>125922667
Unrelevant, fake and gay.
Here's the /vg/ lore:
>Depending on who's playing, either feathery gypsies who speak terrible English, or feathery pirates who speak terrible English.
>>125922863
Vox are alien bird people from space who breathe nitrogen and act like space bird people
Bam, lore done
>>125922438
are you planning on making combat good or are you going to make it stun based again?
So what supreme meme Moth names ARE there?
If this race is added, I need my meme names.And racial slurs.
>>125922694
That's because their newfags do the smart thing by not even pretending to listen to the lore.
We're just still pretending that we RP beyond the bare minimum. CentComm isn't even referred to as part of Nanotrasen some of the time, it's sometimes "Home Empire" or "Systems Republic" depending on the round.
>>125922863
according to baystation lore
vox literally can't breed outside of their hive ships and the vox you actually see are FAKE VOX and the REAL VOX are superpowered furries that live halfway in bluespace
p.s. bluespace has no solid definition which fits? i guess???
>>125923108
>So what supreme meme Moth names ARE there?
fluffy
cuddles
boop boops in a bucket
>racial slurs
carpet munchers
bugs
sodaheads
>>125922505
ctrl+f in the main list on a security records computer, or use the search function.
>>125922538
>One quick look on the wiki
Oh right, we have a wiki.
>open wiki
>notice legends tab
>open legends
>literally just a link to the dead archive, and a different page
>different page has literally all the lore in it
I'm not sure what I expected.
>opening entry states that the lore is completely irrelevant and up for interpretation
Wew.
>super matter crystals can destroy entire galaxies
>super matter shards are harvested from gas giants, but are incredibly, explosively unstable if left conditions similar to those of a gas giant
WEW
Well, that's all the fucks I can give tonight.
>>125923108
miggers
we should call vox viggers and tajaran tiggers while we're at it
>>125923108
They aren't getting added.
>>>/e/621
>>125923191
>Bluespace has no solid definition
It's yet more barely fleshed out lore.
It's really only established that it's a dimension that allows FTL travel because distances scale at extremely high ratios between the two (1 mile in bluespace = 5 million lightyears in realspace or something like that)
It's also heavily implied plasma has stuff to do with it.
I like to also think there are reality eating eldritch horrors that hide in the darkness, like Nar-Sie.
>>125923529
>carpet munchers
>>125923106
>Doom engine
>"is the combat gonna be good?"
I could make all the weapons fire blanks and you'd have a good time.That means yes.
There -are- conditions involved when you get fucked up past a certain degree, and it's possible to drop into crit/be disarmed here as well, but I'm trying to strike a balance where it's not just RNG/stuns.
>>125923564
Yeah whoever did super matter cascades had no regard for the lore.
Welcome to the issues us lorefags have had with our coders since forever.
I'm still asshurt about all of the xcom shit that is blatantly fucking referenced and isn't even trying to fit into the universe at all.
>>125923567
And plasmen are Piggers.
>>125923108
Woehnt Eckssisste.
>>125923774
The biggest problem is that until maybe now, most people forgot that lorefags even existed.
>>125922538
You just gave me an idea. What if Donk Pockets currently on the map were replaced with something else, say Sliders? Instead, a box of Donk Pockets could be a traitor item, perhaps a job-specific for the chef or something.
Obviously the description would have to be changed to something that includes that they're made by one of NTs enemies.
Also my captcha for this is waffles. IRONY
>>125923774
tell you what.
You convince the playerbase to accept the hodgepodge of retarded bay lore we have now, and then I'll start caring about it.
Until we stop instantly saying "fuck that" to anything related to bay RP, we can't do this lore shit unless it is entirely non-bay.
oh my god. vox lore is stolen from one of /tg/chan's oc races. hilarious.
>>125924132
Lore doesn't have to mean autistic HRP.
The Goons don't even RP and even they abide by lore between their ooc in ic.
At the very least people could learn a bit about Nanotrasen v. The Syndicate.
>>125924196
More like DeviantArt
>that bio layout
>>125915490
Think of it as some bullshit Bio jet pack/sail. The wings help them steer some glads that spray excess fluid. Function as normal wings in an atmosphere though.
>>125915997
Yeah wasn't too big on it when I thought it. I like
>>125916004 's molting idea better and just let standard cloning work.
Also for golems why not give them a keystone that can be placed in a new construct or act as a posibrain in a Borg. Tough as shit but can only heal from eating ores.
>>125924127
I think Donk Pockets used to have nutriment in them but if you were a traitor they'd also heal, like how Syndi-Cakes used to be.
Not sure.
>>125924314
everyone already knows the important bits, that syndicate are baaaad.
That you are getting angry they don't know literal trivia like "who makes donk pockets" is ridiculous.
>>125924427
Warm donk pockets have always healed everybody.
It was donuts that had specific healing properties and it was for sec officers. They also fit inside your sec belt. TACTICAL TREATS!
>>125924316
likes: spoons
*holds up spork*
>>125924316
>immune to almost all poisons
Biology does not work that way. Poison does not work that way. Fuck you.
>>125924316
So if Deviantart birds can get in the game, why can't Deviantart moths?
At least we don't have Deviantart cats and lizards.
>>125924514
People think the Syndicate is a tangible organization though with an established hierarchy, when in reality it's literally a syndicate of megacorps.
>>125924726
They're more like e621 moths.
>>125924736
Ssssso?
Enjoy living in the nanotransen propaganda era.
>>125924726
What I wanna know is, what was the thought process behind the Tajaraan?
Did a baycoder play Skyrim and say to themselves "hmm you know SS13 could really use these egypt kitties, it would improve the game LOADS!" and then proceed to make OC donut steel lore?
>>125924879
>Want to refute this and say that Tajaran have been in SS13 for longer than Skyrim
>Remember that Skyrim came out in 2011, where SS13 was an entirely different game at the time
Jesus christ.
>>125924718
biology too different from humans for compounds poisonous to humans to have any effect.
But I'm giving deviantart too much credit.
>>125924514
>One quick look on the wiki shows that Donk Co. was abandoned by Nanotrasen in the Fourth Cold War in the same vein as the USSR in WW2. This lead to Donk teaming up with their old enemy, Waffle Co. against Nanotrasen.
why are you taking this seriously
>>125924879
>what was the thought process behind the Tajaraan
One day while Baystation was masturbating, coder got OC.
>>125924196
Which one? Are you implying Scellor?
>>125924879
Tajaraan could probably flipped into lion beasts that fly around in treasure planet style ships being pirates and shit using harpoon rifles and laser cutlasses but the taint of furries and memes ruin everything.:
Movienight tonight or no?
>>125924584
Syndie-Cakes used to heal traitors alone. That was quickly removed when that was abused by validhunters as a test for discovering traitors.
>>125925436
All of that sounds cool, but I really want a harpoon rifle now.
Like the hookshot, but it sticks into walls/people dealing brute damage and bleeding if it hits someone.
I also want space whalesand fat peopleto hunt with the harpoon gun.
>>125925073
He could no longer help himself! He watched as Baystation stroked his juicy kawaii lore.
So would a plasman and a mothperson hugging make a bomb?
http://connectcast.tv/Orzorn
Stream starts in 13 minutes.
Die Hard is up first.
>>125926360
It wouldstink real bad;
byond://46.188.0.249:2422
>>125923532
Oh, in security records? I've been using the medical ones. Thanks.
>>125926696
What the hell is this link?
>>125926696
DELETE THIS
>>125926696
>>125926859
>>125926938
LIFEWEEBS GET OUT
>>125922714
>christmas special
>>125926439
I'm trying to chat but it's showing a stop sign over the chatbox? I've got an account and everything
>>125927364
I was actually wondering how long until someone noticed that.
>>125927471
Maybe check your email. I remember something about having to verify yourself.
Or check your options on your profile.
>born too early to explore the Earth
>born too late to explore Spess
>born just in time to see Spessmen live eternal in DOOM
Feels good mane.
>>125928141
>>born too early to explore the Earth
>>born too late to explore Spess
Anon
>make campfire in the courtroom expecting cozy times
>end up worshipping satan and sacrificing myself for his glory
T-thanks, Salem.
>>125928141
I would post more pics, but right now I'm doing boring non-flashy shit and setting up a basic medical framework, as well as improving some of the weapons. If anyone has suggestions which would make a certain feature less painful in a first-person game, feel free.
Might do some work on the security cameras soon. The plan is to actually show you the camera's perspective when accessing it from a terminal instead of just jumping there in top-down, complete with swiveling.
>>125928393
How the fuck do you make campfires?
are they new?
>connection failed
PANIC?
>>125928393
hue
>>125928465
>>125928141
ANON FROM FUTURE CONFIRMED
GIMME GTX 9 BILLION TI
>Crews without a pecking order, such as new groups freshly booted off an arkship and set to raiding, will have an internal structure that is highly chaotic. Traditionally, they choose an item such as a 'leader hat' to determine who is in charge, and then fight over it constantly until a clear heirarchy is established. Young Vox are loud, energetic, and proud to a fault.
bay12 vox lore is random, spotty and scattered as fuck but i will consider this canon for /vg/station lore
>>125928669
>people are still yapping about lore
Literally who cares.
>>125928476
HOW TO INTO CAMPFIRE: AN OFFICIAL GUIDE:
>4 wood planks make a campfire
>wood planks can be obtained by wrenching bar parts
>or botany if the bartender cares
>you can build a spit with a 5th plank over the fire
>this can be used to make rotisserie foods like frying
>stepping onto the fire starts you on fire
>you can extinguish yourself by resisting
BONUS FUN:
>extinguishing yourself on a lit fire lets you stay standing on the fire without reigniting
is it possible to play /vg/station on the webclient? i have byond working in wine but there's a shitload of graphical glitches for some reason. none of the tiles seem to display correctly.
>>125928432
Ling stings and handing over items will be a lot easier without having to click on a second interface. Stings I can see being simple weapons, but what about handing over items from your inventory to someone else?
>>125928728
because i'm scraping for lore that reinforces the greytide
>>125902474
I like it, code it
>>125928907
But greytide care the least about lore.
>>125929071
i'm the worst spessman
i'm a greytider that cares about lore.
>>125928798
I'm not quite sure about how I'm gonna handle the advanced mob to mob interactions yet, since some of them are quite indepth, but if I can get the script working for that, there'll likely just be a give weapon/give item hotkey which works with the currently selected weapon or item. Ling stings can be implemented as a single weapon with alt-fire modes, either through a menu or cycling.
what the fuck byond
>>125929169
I see you're playing the snowmap prototype.
>>125928432
how are you doing menus and everything? no idea how that works in doom. screens look good tho.
>>125929315
why they haven't released a version of this shit that works on linux natively is beyond me
>>125929169
Remove dynamic lights 2015.
>>125929335
You can script custom interfaces with a bit of effort. Keyboard-controlled menus are simple to implement, while an actual window system is possible but takes more effort. I'm probably going to do the former until there's something that explicitly requires mouse navigation.
Let's take a vending machine for example. Up and down movement to pick product, right or fire to purchase. Alternatively, for a security camera console, up and down could select departments with a dynamic dropdown menu to the right listing the specific cameras, left and right switching between department and camera selection. I hope that makes sense.
I'd recommend some WADs that implement good interfaces but that'd be more of a /vr/ discussion, I think.
>>125928432
Stuns should be minimal as fuck.
Knockouts should be removed entirely.
Tasers/other stuns should reduce runspeed to the point where an officer can cuff a perp and they are moving too slow to run away, but they can still fight back.
That should make the combat a lot less awful, IMO.
>cameras
Didn't buildengine come with something like that built in? Like it even downscaled the camera's perspective to a monitor? How viable is that to recreate in DooM?
>>125929169
Stop playing on shitty operating systems if you can't into graphics libs you retard.
I will never understand why people are so obsessed with trying to turn their desktop into a 1970s mainframe. You aren't fucking cool, and the fact you can't even fix the issues you cause makes you look like an even bigger tool.
>>125928432
something to keep in mind:
Overhaul the armor and damage system. Make it so that suits grant permanent armor bonuses that act as a damage threshold or a damage resistance.
Doom's armor system would fucking suck in a game like SS13.
>>125899813
Already a thing on /tg/ or bay iirc
COME WATCH DIE HARD WITH THIS FUCKING RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT.
http://connectcast.tv/Orzorn
>>125930297
What's an example of certain OP knockout/stun effect in vanilla SS13, for reference? I'd like conditions to be enough of a hazard that you need to strategize, but at a reasonable level.
How about making taser electrodes lose potency the further they travel, up to a maximum range? Close range tasing will fuck you up, long range tasing is just a mild buzz.
The Build-style cameras are built into the source port I'm using as a default feature. They basically function exactly the same way as in Duke3D. And yeah, you can also render camera vision to textures at runtime, which means that you could have thunderdome matches being displayed on an in-game monitor if you want. Just a thought.definitely on the todo list
Fresh thread when?
Fucking thread cooks
>>125930132
You could organize the cameras in a directory-like thing.
Each department treated as a folder that can be minimized. When they are open, it shows a list of each room, which is also a folder, which when opened shows a list of all cameras in that room.
>>125930497
rude
>>125930706
Yeah, I'm not a fan of Doom's default armor functionality outside of pure action WADs, since it's pretty obvious it was created with just plain FPS gameplay in mind. I've messed around with creating custom armor before with varying results, like powered armor that can absorb electricity to regain charge and shit like that. One thing I've been trying to figure out whether to do brute damage through Doom's standard health or bypass it entirely with custom scripts.
>>125930884
That's sorta what I meant by the dropdown thing, except only showing one "folder" at a time but at the same time allowing you to switch departments relatively quickly. I'm trying to keep in mind that not all aspect ratios were created equal, although there are helper functions to assist with that.
Here's an example from another WAD, a remake of C&C Renegade, which kinda shows what I was thinking. Bear in mind, the font there is fucking huge and there's a ton of screen clutter, but I'm only talking about the center purchase interface.
>>125930834
You'd want to get away from the system entirely. It's not very fun and not terribly realistic. It exists as it does because of the limitations of a top down game. Tasers and stuns in general shouldn't prevent you from fighting back, only handcuffs and death should do that. Keeps the combat robust and fun and not just a contest to see who gets stunned first.
One of the goals of this port should be a shift away from reliance on RNG and more on skill. Not to get rid of RNG entirely, but stuns are pretty much why combat in the game fucking sucks. Maybe have passing out from pain (counterable by stims?) but otherwise keep that kind of shit to a minimum.
>And yeah, you can also render camera vision to textures at runtime
Fucking nice.
I wonder, for the nuke ops hud, could you draw a scaled down view of the other agent's vision on the hud?
Something like that would make it easier for ops to work together.
>>125931406
Anon this is sounding 2delicious
You just might be the one to remake SS13. You might be the next Gibbed, bringing us to the 3rd era of spacemen.
If you ever feel like giving up, let DJ Khaled inspire you:
http://www.theydontwantyouto.win/
I wish enough AIs used the picture function that there was a demand for a feature that let you hack pictures out of the AI's database on the sly.
>>125931484
I actually haven't tested that, although the syntax for the function wants map lines, so I'm not sure it could be done as a HUD feature, but it's worth checking out.
Coop spying (seeing friendly players' screens) has been a thing forever, but I'm not sure if you could make it restricted to certain teams (it already works fine in teamgames, but you don't want all players to have magic psy-vision), since it'd pretty obviously break the feature if you could just cycle through everybody's view.
As for combat, I pretty much agree with all of it. Mind you, I think minor RNG is fine when it comes to stuff like damage and recoil calculation (think single digits), but outside of that, I want people to actually be robust instead of seeing who can exploit the most "features".
>>125931906
Thanks, man, but don't build up too many expectations"why doesn't singuloth swallow the 3D static BSP geometry station?"unless you've actually tried it in action. Anyone who takes a look at DreamMaker realizes just how much shit there's in SS13's codebase and gives up there. I'm trying to focus on what I consider the barebones essentials that makes the game what it is, then building from there once the foundation is solid.
Always appreciate words of encouragement, though.
>>125932229
Maybe introduce a law/rule that says in order for an AI to remember something, it has to take a picture?
Then add an ez hotkey to the take picture verb.
>>125932324
I think if we just had a way for AIs to actually send a picture to someone, we'd be golden.
As it stands, it's newscaster or nothing.
>>125933151
PDA photo send?
Might be cool.
Taking selfies and sending them to people via PDA as spam.
SERVERS POWER RANKING
1. /vg/
2. Real /tg/
3. Shitter /tg/
POWERGAP
4 All other Servers
5. lljk
>>125931484
Well, congratulations, you absolute fucking madman, it actually worked. Here's the nuke ops visor Mk.II.
Where was Stev Singuloose that entire time?
>>125919883
Vox are super mutant chickens with no real culture or significant backstory. They can be as smart or retarded as you like. You don't have to squak about le ebin shinies or act like Roman Belic. Fuck the wiki.
>>125933484
>2. Real /tg/
>3. Shitter /tg/
Explain.
>>125935873
>not knowing about the secret /tg/ server for supporters
>>125933484
>muh furries doe :*(
die soon
I respect goon, if only for sticking to their guns and keeping you loli catgirl secondlife shitters quiet.
![FVkDZNG[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/M4mLjd2.png "FVkDZNG[1]")
