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This general is for discussing all shmups/stgs (shoot 'em ups/shooting type games).
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Mushihimesama released on Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/377860/
Dariusburst: Chronicle Saviours on Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/377870/
New Cave game announced: http://promo.cave.co.jp/bancho/
Spoiler - It's more Dodonpachi
CAVE announces next Steam port on the 26th.
Give these a try! https://www.mediafire.com/folder/nz0227tzb9zor/shmupmame
recording Crimson Clover takes too much fucking bitrate.
>>125141857
What, is there too much shit going on at once?
>>125142260
https://u.pomf.io/genett.webm
Not even a pattern with lots of bullets or in break mode, there's just so many stars.
>>125141857
>29 mbs
Well, the shitload of stars are part of the charm. Still, I wish you luck in recording CC anon.
Someone wanna tell me what the best controller to use for shumps? I feel like even the the xbox one controller is fucking floaty doesnt have enough small movements/to sensitive
>>125144167
Saturn Controller or Keyboard.
>>125141348
Thanks op for making new thread.
>>125145028
No problem.
Shame last thread got killed by spam.
>>125141857
>>125142260
>>125142516
Yeah, CC is a bit ridiculous at times.
>>125146208
I'm suprised I can even understand what's going on sometimes. It' 's amazing in a way.
>lose a life on the first stage
>so salty that you keep playing to punish yourself with a shitty run
>end up 1cc'ing the game with a high score
>>125148503
I'm just starting to get into shmups and I still play through after I die. I'm currently playing Gun wings but the bosses are a bit difficult for me.
>>125148503
>>125148845
Man, these days I get salty and reset if I die in stage 2. I need to learn to push through after; I'm not good enough to play for score anyway, it's not like it'll be an nmnb.
>>125148503
Lucky bastard
I just get a useless run when I get hit.
Are there any worthwhile STG on 3DS aside from Recca?
>>125153354
Not exactly 3DS but there's always Nanostray 2.
>>125153354
>Recca on the 3DS
The hell
How did I not know this
Is Siter Skain working on anything right now? It's been a long time since Alltynex Second.
Is it just me, or is Stage 5 of Alltynex a bit bullshit? I cant deal with those explosive barrels at all and those enemies that come from the bottom if the screen are so annoying.
>>125141857
>he still plays CC when it's all-style-no-substance: The Shmup
it's time to buy Mooshy and leave that doujin filth behind, anon
>>125165030
Let anon play whatever shmup his heart desires.
Slow day over at /shmupg/ today. You guys better bring tales of the great 1ccs you achieved today.
>>125169839
no 1cc, but I did beat sine mora today for the first time. going to take a little break and then I'll play through again on challenging
I know it gets a lot of hate, but I enjoyed it
>>125148503
Funny you should say that, because after a disastrous start I FINALLY beat Alltynex Second
>>125144167
I use an XBox 360 controller with Turbo support, which is quite good. The d-pad sucks but playing with analogue stick is ok.
An arcade stick still would be much better though.
>>125169839
I almost 1cced Ikaruga on Normal. Died 2 seconds before the Stone-Like would have been finished. Still beat my old highscore though, so it's not too bad.
How hard is RefleX? From what little I've played it looks like you can just spam your shield and avoid almost everything.
>>125169839
I keep fucking up the stage 2 midboss link
I can't build up hypers fast enough
>>125178915
What game is that again?
>>125179117
daioujou black label
>>125177137
No one? Cmon guys you must have played this, this game is awesome.
>>125188797
red > blue
Futari slowdown is fucking awful. I don't know how anyone copes with this shit.
Why couldn't they have made it so it doesn't just cut off in the middle of an attack with absolutely no warning.
>>125169839
Ikaruga anon here again. After a bit more practice, I finally beat Ikaruga now. Zero lives were left though. 19 mil score
Now the real challenge begins...
I wish Sega would start manufacturing Saturn pads again
>>125194285
Dont worry anon, >>125174000 here. I also cleared the game with exactly one life left.
You planning to do Hard Mode now?
>>125194889
>You planning to do Hard Mode now?
Yea, I guess it would be the best time to start practicing it now, before I adjust myself too much on normal.
>>125195335
Good luck with that anon. I couldnt even begin to image how you're supposed to clear the game when everything you destroy returns fire.
>>125195934
Thanks, I will need the luck. It will be hard, especially at the start, because I totally have to change my tactics in many areas, but with enough practice everything is possible.
Can't stop listening to this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beUOvi62pVY
>>125197457
And I cant stop listening to this
https://youtu.be/kOiElpgrH9I
>>125194314
Are they really that good?
>>125200826
Yes
Best shmup track coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzMBDx7JdBQ&list=PL2F13F24AA3DB7744&index=14&spfreload=10
>>125204346
That's pretty meh senpai. Now here's a real kicker.
https://youtu.be/-zUZmWe_fRY
>>125205249
Not bad, but too melodramatic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9COjyJVqQsU&index=1&list=PL9BCCFBD565EC0834
>>125205641
>too melodramatic
Alright, how about a more humble track then?
https://youtu.be/06AUob1JVdM
>>125206449
>this
>humble
Pick one. Or have some real humbleness insted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzIogZMp4_Y
>>125207265
I said it was more humble, not that it was humble in general.
But whatevs, have another track.
https://youtu.be/f_UTj1Q-2kM
>Thousand knives/bullets
>Insane stare
>Hungry gluttons
They are all kicking my ass.
>>125208005
Stop eating so many prunes you fat cow!
>>125208303
I dont have any more pictures of Chaika eating prunes, so I guess you win today anon.
Should I buy Dariusburst or GGXrd, /shmupg/?
>>125208640
Darius obviously, fighting games are shit.
>>125208640
Follow your heart anon.That means support DariusNo pressure though.
>>125208640
Xrd will be dead soon so play that while you can
>>125208720
>he doesn't play shmups, fightans and hack n slashes while listening to underground hip-hop and doujin music
Come THE FUCK on, Anon. Come the fuck on.
>>125169839
No 1ccs, but I did play Dariusburst over at a friend's place on his PC, then give him pointers that almost got him a CCWI 1cc.
>>125177137
>>125185421
I find that it gets a lot trickier as it goes on.
>>125209813
Yeah I got a bit farther and found out that while it might look like the shield trivializes a lot of the game, you will need that fucking shield to survive.
The game looks really long too. I can already tell this is going to be quite the adventure.
>>125204346
Whoa! Someone put Final Fantasy Tactics' music into a shump?!
Warning!!
A huge Battleship
Page 10
Is approaching fast!
>>125218510
Dead genre
Dead general
>>125219225
That's not true, we've got Dariusburst at least.
>>125219463
Woo, a port of a 30 year old PSP game. Big focking deal.
More Ketsui at http://www.ustream .tv/channel/taito-hey going on right now.
I want to hear some thoughts.
What attracts you to STGs?
What do you think would attract new blood to STGs?
>>125221385
>What attracts you to STGs?
I own more than 1 sega console
>>125221385
>What attracts you to STGs?
Challenge and that sense of pride when you survive the onslaught, where you can die anytime.
>What do you think would attract new blood to STGs?
Multiple difficulties and the shmup community not being a bunch of eltists, who expect too much out the beginners from the start.
>>125221924
I was wondering more about of what gameplay/aesthetics/musical styles draw you to the genre.
>>125221385
I think the difficulty and personal gratification I get from beating one. Like practicing a long time and when it finally pays off is a good ass feeling.
>>125215327
Same composers, so it's going to sound a bit similar. And fantastic.
>>125222052
I appreciate games I can turn on and play and feel engaged. A lot of games, especially modern ones are quite long and make you work for content (open world style games for example.)
I like typical arcade games, lightgun, shooters, fighting, pinball because I can just enjoy the gameplay.
Girly dress-up games with Reco.
How do you guys feel about shmups being so mixed with animu loli shit these past years?
Personally I hate it and would probably never buy a game that has that shit.
>>125226202
I dunno, don't really care as long as the gameplay is fun.
>>125226202
What if it was something in between? Cute young girls, but without the raw paedophile sex appeal and with a more serious tone?
Picture somewhat related.
>>125226964
>cute young girls
>without raw paedophile sex appeal
Yeah I dunno but that sounds kind of contradictory.
I just like my spaceships
>>125226202
I don't like most modern anime girls. I like anime girls like Akane and Hikaru
>>125226202
Speaking of animu loli shit, which game has it the most? Are there shmups that surpass Otomedius in that regard?
>>125227087
Oh, c'mon. I am sure you can tell there is a world of difference.
>>125227431
right pic is not pedo. Look at those legs and tits.
>>125227406
well deathsmiles is pretty much all lolis but it's not very lewd
>>125227525
My mistake, Otomedius is clearly geared towards mature, grown men with mature and refined tastes in both women and shooters.
It is the type of game best served along scotch, straight black coffee, and fine cigars.
Cave on the other hand.
>>125226553
This
>>125210350
I don't want to spoil anything but the fights near the end are awesome.They got me really pumped
>>125227760
I don't see how that is loli however I look at it. They're teenage girls.
>>125230160
And you are right. But the thing was
>cute young girls
>without raw paedophile sex appeal
Yeah, ok, to be fair, I fucked up. I should have never written paedophile sex appeal, but rather just raw sex appeal.
What I wanted to know from >>125227087 was if he could imagine himself enjoying/buying a anime children or teenage girls shooter where they weren't sexulised. Or if the practice of having little girls in video games was outright a no-buy for whatever reason.
>>125230951
>>125230951
>if the practice of having little girls in video games was outright a no-buy for whatever reason.
Depends on if there is 1 or 2 little girls in there along with a few other characters. A game full of little girls and one guy is too slice of life otaku for me.
>>125231726
I see, so it really is just a matter of context and shitty fanservice then?
>>125232218
yes
>>125226202
yeah If the aesthetics are loli candy land shit i'll probably pass.
>>125234141
how about these aesthetics??
>>125234781
>>125177137
I think it's the easiest game of the trilogy to 1cc.
>>125221385
>What attracts you to STGs?
The challenging and rewarding gameplay. Playing shmups on a high level is just one badass trip. I also like that it's a very introspective genre. I'm rather introverted in real life myself, and avoid contact to people wherever I can, so I guess that fits.
Also, the music and artstyle in shmups is just ultra cool. It just feels much more mature and beautiful when you compare it to other genres (except for the waifu stuff, but stuff like Mushihime is also still very aesthetic).
>>125226202
Shmups have always been mixed with anime stuff. Also with lolis (Cotton for example). I have no problem with this, as long as it is well made and we also still get games with just spaceships.
The genre is just not really popular anymore, so we see a lot of cheap rehashes, but I guess that's better than nothing.
>>125237581
Also, the gameplay of many modern Cave games for example is really not bad. The aesthetics are just full of otaku pandering, but like I said, it's better than nothing.
http://transition.tokyo/en
do you think we'll see some new games, or just more ports? we obviously know cave will be announcing the next steam port here, but hopefully someone else announces a brand new game
>>125239802
I'd like to think they'd have at least one new game to reveal to make this seem like a big deal.
>>125239802
Its possible
>>125239802
I thought they just anounced another Dodonpachi waifu game?
>>125241381
its some phone game that has to do with sdoj. Funnily enough its being programmed by Yagawa.
>>125234647
>>125234781
>>125234915
How big is the hitbox in Cho Aniki? The whole sprite or the crotch?
>>125221385
>What attracts you to STGs?
The sense of gratification from conquering a portion of the game that gives me trouble, and then the satisfaction of getting a 1cc.
>What do you think would attract new blood to STGs?
What >>125222032 said.
>>125226202
>How do you guys feel about shmups being so mixed with animu loli shit these past years?
I'm far too /jp/ to outright hate lolis in anything, but I wish there were more sugoi spaceships doing ganbatte things.
>>125243826
what about lolis that ARE sugoi spaceships?
>>125245373
Acceptable.
>>125243005
In one of those he dies from a bullet in the chest, so it's got to be bigger than just the crotch.
>>125234647
>>125234781
>>125234915
One of these days I need to give Cho Aniki a real try.
>tfw just pracicing Ikaruga hard mode on steam a bit and suddenly I'm already in the top 10
Feels like I'm almost the only one who plays this game on hard.
Also, what's up with all these hackers in highscore lists? Can't the devs just simply ban them? Kinda lazy from the devs.
>>125252537
They probably just gave up. You cant just get rid of hackers.
>>125252808
They probably wouldn't even notice it. I mean they obviously don't play the game anyway, so they also wouldn't notice if their score just got deleted.
>>125221385
>What attracts you to STGs?
I find the gameplay better when compared to other shooters. When I play platformers or run and gun games for example, I just feel cribbled somehow due to the lack movement options.
Even if he is easier than the Ultra version he is still annoying.
>>125254958
That attack is pretty much a forced bomb once the small bullets build up for long enough. I hate attacks like that.
>>125256262
I fucked up in the previous patterns way too much (even after a bit practice), so I was out of bombs at that point.
>>125254958
>>125256262
Yeah, resource checks as a final boss, even a tlb, are awful practice.
>>125226202
I wont lie, I'm getting a bit burned out on the somewhat generic anime style that a lot of japanese games have nowadays, but that's not enough to make me turn down a game if the gameplay is good enough.
>>125219771
Hey man, PSP games from 30 years ago are the shit, fuck everything from the last few years.
>>125221385
I think the main reasons I play shmups is that sense of accomplishment you get once you finally git gud. That, and the fact that shmups tend to have god-tier OST and art style.
In my opinion shmups are niche by nature, I doubt most people would want to invest the time and effort it takes to get the most out of this genre.
>>125208640
Late response, but Dariusburst is new.
how's Syder Arcade? I'll probably pick it up if it ever goes for $.99 again, but I'm curious if anyone here has played it
>you'll never play the complete version
>page 10
breh
Look /shmupg/, a free shmup!
>>>/v/320058336
>>125281693
I gotta be honest with you family, it looks like shit.
>>125283740
That *might* be true, but at least it's free to try.
Plus, dont tell me that. Go tell the guy making it.
>>125275370
Dont worry anon, I'll try it after finals and report back.
Hey /shmupg/, hopefully you can answer this question I have.
Why is there so much hate or dislike for Ikaruga? I'm not that well versed in shmups but it didnt seem THAT bad when I played it.
>>125295280
> I'm not that well versed in shmups
exactly.
>>125295280
I just don't like it.
>>125295382
Well can you at least help me understand a bit anon?
>>125296006
Overrated by people who don't know anything about shmups when it isn't that great.
Similar to how people who know little about touhou disproportionately like Cirno, or people who know little about videogames talk about a handful of mainstream games.
>>125295280
There isn't anything wrong with it. I know a common complaint is the game has you absorb bullets instead of dodging them. Also Lord Xoxak doesn't like it.Play Dimahoo instead.
>>125295280
Wait im not in the shump world just peeking in but inst that game a classic? even more so a dreamcast classic?
>>125296196
>>125296006
>>125295280
Not him.
So is it popular because it was a rare shump that was translated and brought over at the time?
>>125296337
As far as I know, Ikaruga got really popular amongst people outside of the usual shmup crowd, so it gets a disproportionate amount of praise by people who cant identify its flaws.
At least that's what I understand.
>>125296480
It wasn't particularly rare. It looked kinda cool and had good music. It was praised by people who didn't really play shmups and got talked about by a bunch of people who didn't play shmups very much.
I mean, think about Smash Bros and other fighting games.
>>125296337
>>125296757
yup, kind of like how europa universalis 4 and crusader kings 2 are hugely popular yet people in /gsg/ constantly shit on them and chose to play victoria 2 or hearts of iron instead
Is Tyrian a good game?
>>125295280
As a few people here have said, it mostly seems like a case where it's not bad, but it's liked by people that don't normally play shmups and they have a different perspective on what makes a shmup enjoyable.
>>125297950
I didn't like it, but I know several people that do so it might be.
>>125287381
I take it you own it but just haven't gotten around to playing it yet?
also fuck I didn't realize I was posting a fuckhuge png
>>125301030
Pretty much.
I have all these shmups I could be discussing here but cant because of fucking college.
>>125301030
>also fuck I didn't realize I was posting a fuckhuge png
At least it was cool looking.
>>125287381
Good luck on your finals.
>>125305958
Thanks anon, I'll need it.
What's the most impressive attack/bullet pattern you've seen in a shmup /vg/?
Is there a steam group or something? I just wanna chat about life and stuff with people that plays shmups.
>>125295280
It's basically Silvergun Lite with an improved (but still shit) scoring system and a gay as fuck gimmick: the bullet absorbing ship.
People only like it for the graphics and music.
>>125311148
The Mushi Ultra stage 3 boss's final attack is so cool looking, even if it's virtually impossible to actually dodge the thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2tLjXYULfY
You can see the attack I'm talking about at around 10:39, along with the rest of the Ultra boss patterns.
>>125311586
>Steam
Harmful. Use this instead:
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?nick=Anon?&theme=cli#shmups
>>125312090
Just looking at that makes me nervous. How do people even manage to dodge shit like that?
>>125312727
By going full shmup. These superplayers seriously play their game all day every day to reach that kind of level.
>>125311148
The second part of the Maelstrom fight in Crimzon Clover on Unlimited is crazy. Visually stunning, at the very least.
https://youtu.be/aeWSCooKthE?t=57s
>>125313594
If only I had that kind of dedication.
>>125321992
Sometimes I do too, but then I realize how much fun I have playing lots of games at a decent level, and to me I feel like going full autist with a single game wouldn't be as fun.
>>125321992
You sure anon? Pic related took 7 years to clear. 7 y e a r s
>>125322243
If I enjoyed it, sure. Sometimes I don't feel I have it in me to get a really shitty clear, let alone work on actually getting good at a game.
>>125322413
More power to ya then. Hopefully I'll see you in 5 years once you cleared one of those crazy modes no one has ever done before anon.
>>125322996
Nah dude, I barely have the drive to do modes that lots of people have done.
>>125323150
No excuses. I'll be expecting to hear about you in 5 years anon.
if you arent asian you should give up on bullet hells
>>125324432
>most of the achievements in vidya that require obscene amounts of work and dedications are all done by asians
Really makes you wonder what's going up with their lives.
>>125324432
It's just asian parents pressuring them into shit.
>>125324432
But a lot of bullet hells aren't that bad if you play for survival, and there's literally nothing wrong with that.
>>125326452
He probably meant accomplishing things like >>125322243
>>125324432
>>125324619
>tfw asian
>tfw terrible at bullet hells
>tfw terrible at fighting games
>>125239802
>no mention of Siter Skain anywhere
Huh, that's weird. I wonder what they're up to.
>the Steam page of RefleX spoils the whole plot
Why would you do that?
>>125153354
Radirgy
>>125332702
More like shitter stain
I'm thinking DDP Ichimen Bancho is promotion for the SDOJ port since it's just a grinding version of SDOJ.
What is your favourite way of putting up an excuse so you can bump a thread that's about shmups?
>>125324432
>tfw shit at shmups because I'm not asian
>tfw shit at hack n slashes because I'm not asian
>tfw shit at fighting games because I'm not asian or black
W-well at l-least I have my white male privilege.
>>125342497
Thats what I am thinking also.
>>125343460
It's because you don't play enough.
>Yusemi: Each time I practiced, I would continue after dying and play through to the end. During each session I spent about 2000 yen (1 play is 50 yen, so ~40 credits worth). I spent most of the time refining my patterns, and I would also practice just dodging (without firing) boss patterns that I still felt unsure about or wanted to increase my experience with. The most I ever spent in a single day practicing was 20000 yen (~400 credits).
>>125295280
Modern STG community is cancerous as fuck, since it's pretty much dead. It's just full of danmaku waifu tards and hipsters, especially here.
And they simply can't stand it when a modern shmup which is not generic danmaku crap gets relatively popular.
>>125342497
Makes sense. Is SDOJ confirmed to be coming at any time? I'm pretty sure they announced privately on system11 that MushiFutari is the next game in the pipe.
>>125345003
Man, this is my favorite meme. Especially since Ikaruga is a bullet hell.
>>125345176
>Especially since Ikaruga is a bullet hell.
Ikaruga is not bullethell. It has bullethell elements but it's mainly a methodical shooters in the veine of R-Type. Same goes for Radiant Silvergun or Gradius V.
Gradius V also has a smaller hitbox and can have a shitton of bullets on screen, but this doesn't mean it's bullethell.
>>125345176
The new port is going to be announced on the 26th. I haven't seen anything about Futari on system11.
Everyone ignore this retard >>125345364
>>125345713
>The new port is going to be announced on the 26th. I haven't seen anything about Futari on system11.
Maybe it's just a rumor that's going around, but I've seen it in several other threads here and on other sites.
>>125148503
I try that, but the first death just sends me into a spiral of bad play following it.
>>125153354
Some cool classics on there like Twinbee that have a really fun layered 3d effect, or the non-traditional Space Harrier is dope for similar good use of 3d.
>>125209076
He gets it. HE GETS IT! I was playing Darius and blasting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ5ZcPBdfns.
>>125295280
Because it's edgy, anon. There really isn't anything wrong with it, but average gamers picked it up back in the Dreamcast / Gamecube releases and ranted about how hard it was, triggering all the crazy fringe stgers. Just like what you like.
Also fuck me, I still keep dying on ADH. I don't want to be Violently Ruled anymore.
>>125343436
I usually ask what people think about a game
what do you guys think about raystorm? I love rayforce, but haven't checked out either of the sequels yet. should I go with mame or ps1?
New CAVE iOS a shit
Cannot read moon
Twitter pop-ups everywhere
Mandatory ads following each stage clear
>>125350165
It just looks like a quick teaser of a SDOJ port (hopefully).
>>125343460
I'm white, but that doesn't stop me from being good at shmups (and fightans to some degree).
>>125345364
Aren't gradius v's higher loops danmaku though?
>>125345176
Ikaruga isn't even modern if you really want to get your STG panties in a twist think about Nuclear Throne for a second.
>>125350165
>Mandatory ads following each stage clear
Well of course. Did you think they were going to release a free game with no way to get money out of it?
So the "new" Cave game is just ad-ridden phone port of SDOJ. Whatever. Just give me SDOJ on Steam please.
>>125278240
I'm still waiting to see what those 2 other upgrades would be.
What's the best version of MAME if I want to play DFK/Deathsmiles? Shmupmame hasn't been updated since 2013.
>>125343436
Hey, at least I try to disguise my bumps.
>>125359705
I thought one needed a very outdated version of MAME to even run DFK and Deathsmiles.
Or was that just SDOJ?
>>125363605
there was a time where they had removed the driver that could play newer caves games, but it's back in regular mame now
>>125363809
But is there a version that deals with input lag, like shmupmame, but for sh3 games?
>>125363968
No. The SH3 emulation is also terrible.
>>125364487
>The SH3 emulation is also terrible.
Such a shame.
>>125329114
Are you Asian, or Asian American? There is an important difference
>>125345364
Just because Ikaruga has some levels with walls doesn't make it not a bullet hell, anon.
Also, most shmups with good scoring systems are methodical, bullet hell or otherwise.
Do you guys always play with in-game music, or do you mute the game and put your own music in the background?
>>125372685
False advertising, no lolis in any of the images
>>125374040
While practicing I'll play my own music, but if I'm actually playing I go by in-game.
>>125374040
Muted unless the OST was by Manabu Namiki, then I have it turned all the way up.
Which do you prefer, /stg/:
>shmup where the ship moves ~0.5x speed diagonally
>shmups where the ship moves the same speed diagonally
>>125374040
In-game all the way, unless the game has truly horrible audio.
>>125374040
I have something on in the background while practicing, usually video, so I just have the game on low volume. If I'm getting annoyed I turn the voices and possibly the bgm completely off. There's only so many times I can hear Larsa say '私の…私のかわいいアキを…よくも~!" and retain my sanity.
>>125374040
Depends on the game. If the game has voices they get shut off. If the OST is good I turn it up.
>>125372685
Factual errors, I fixed it up for you.
>>125375105
>voices
Oh god, yeah those get muted almost immediately.
>>125376939
>brain damage.jpg
Show me a game where the wall is a square with the word wall painted on it.
>>125381230
Right after you show me one with "static wall" painted on it.
>>125381469
There's not one that's my point. All frames in that image are the result of brain damage.
>>125381629
So you're taking something that's figurative, demanding a literal representation, and then saying others have brain damage?
>>125374040
Usually I listen to touhou music while playing videogames.
>>125374040
I play Ketsui and you really need the backround music to play that fucking game, at least on stage 1, 2 and 5, the music syncing is key.
>>125374820
Shmup where the ship moves ~0.5x speed diagonally. By the way, why is the movement speed on Garegga so weird?, I don't really get adapted to it.
>>125382930
Some ships are faster than others.
>>125384253
Your mothership been telling you stories about me again eh?
>>125385175
okay, I laughed
Are Mushi's leaderboards suddenly fucked for anyone else? I get permanent slowdown whenever I try to see them or when I finish a run and enter my score. Also my last highscore didn't update on the leaderboards.
THAT'S IT
I'VE HAD IT
IT'S TIME WE SETTLED THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL
http://strawpoll.me/6270322
>>125389381
>implying there was ever a doubt of jets being way cooler.
>>125389874
>jets
>cooler
But that's wrong, you retarded faggot.
>>125389874
Jets are for dogfight games like Ace Combat. Helicopters actually can move like a shmup ship.
>>125389997
It's about 50/50 at this moment.
>>125382930
Because Yagawa doesn't know how to program correctly.
>>125388131
Huh, that's weird. Something similar happens to me. Every time I turn on the game the framerate just tanks for a couple of seconds.
I have no idea what's up with that.
>>125393826
You're just getting the full experience of CAVE's patented slowdown. Sit back and enjoy the deliberateness.
>>125374040
Why would I mute the music when most shmups have god-tier OST? Seriously, muting them would be a waste, especially when some shmups sync the best part of the songs with the best parts of boss fights.
>>125374820
>>shmup where the ship moves ~0.5x speed diagonally
Can you give some examples of shmups like this?
>>125400349
dodonpachi
strikers 1945
gradius
truxton
I've seen that remix of Thunder Force 4 posted everywhere so I wanted to ask, is it worth playing? Or is that one track all that's noteworthy about it?
>>125372685
You can play Ikaruga with hardly seeing any bullets at all. It's completely different from bullethell cancer.
>>125410421
I love this meme.
>>125410421
>It's completely different from bullethell cancer
Just fuck off back to /vr/ with your "methodical > everything else" garbage.
>>125410421
Yeah man, practically nothing. You tell these danmaku waifu somethingu faggots to get the hell out of OUR type of video games!
This time without some fag's watermark.
Why does every shump community devolve into "what I like is good, everything else is cancerous bullshit that should die out already"?
>>125416191
inherently autistic genre
plus it's super small. when very few games come out you don't want the majority of them to be things you hate
it's not like rpgs where there's something for everyone all the time
>>125416191
The non-subgenre-war-shitposters are too busy playing.
>>125416191
STG cult memes.
>>125416191
It's very normal for people who like a genre to fight over what's best for it (see: Dota vs LoL, CS vs COD, Quake vs UT, etc).
Bullet hells got me into playing shmups seriously but I have also played and respect more traditional shmups.
>>125410679
>>125414289
>boss cherry picking
Also, most of the "bullets" are basically just lasers anyway.
>>125416191
welcome to 4chan
if you don't like it, there's a nice hugbox community at reddit.com/r/shmups
>>125416191
It's because the community is pretty damn cancerous.
When the most popular developer of the genre earns its money with advertising loli bukakke Iphone apps, you don't really have to wonder that the community is pretty cancerous.
>>125418779
>implying shitposting is a good argument
>>125418779
Dude, I didn't realize system11 was also 4chan!
If you want to shitpost be my guest, there's jack shit I can do, but don't pretend your stupid bullshit has any value.
>>125418661
>cherry picking
Only "cherry picking" I did was skipping around to bosses. Very first boss of the game can fill the screen, anon.
Grow up. Just because you like it doesn't make it not a bullet hell.
>>125419196
Sys11 doesn't even play the games. They just jackoff to their Reco figmas and brag about their arcade cabz.
>>125419303
Do a dot eater run in Ikaruga and then come back at me you fucking danmakutard. The game is not bullet hell at all. Even Satazius has more bullets than this. And even if it would have many bullets, the polarity gimmick negates half of them anyway.
But whatever... There is more to bullethell than just small hitboxes and lots of bullets anyway. In bullethell games you for example have a much more twitch based gameplay and constantly hold down the fire button. This is basically the complete opposite of Ikaruga, but I wouldn't expect a retard like you to understand this.
>>125406249
I like it, shmups do well with set pieces.
>>125420434
Anyone who's serious about playing these games beyond a scrubby bombspam 1cc knows that holding down the fire button constantly is suboptimal to say the least.
>>125420935
I'm starting to think the phrase "playing these games" is some kind of STG cult code.
>>125421071
You got us. It means "turning the game on and pressing buttons in such a way that shit happens." Excellent detective work, anon.
>>125421241
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming you're not repeatedly going out of your way to make the point that you play shmups in a shmup thread.
>>125420935
this is why people call shmups autistic
>>125420935
Not bombing because you're a tryhard sounds suboptimal to me.
>>125421071
>STG cult
Hating people because they like certain types of games is something new
>>125422029
That's impossible, STG cult has been doing it for a while.
>STG cult ruining the thread with autistic elitism shitposting
Why is this allowed?
>>>/vr/2855807
superior general coming through
>>125423623
STG cult please leave.
>>125423623
>superior
It's the exact some shit but condensed.
>>125423623
>superior general
>immediate shitposting in the first few posts
yea, naw
Let's decide on the worst shmup mechanic:
>bullet grazing
>bullet reflecting
>bullet absorbing
>bullet cancelling
>>125425226
grazing and cancelling are good
absorbing and reflecting are bad
>>125425226
Not a fan of reflecting or absorbing either.
>>125425226
I like grazing in Ibara Kuro.
I like reflecting in Giga Wing and Mars Matrix.
I'm not too keen on absorbing.
I like small amounts of cancelling, not DFK/Bullet Soul level of cancelling.
>>125165030
>playing mushihimesama, babby's first shmup
>looking down on anyone
>>125165030
>having a superiority complex because you play CAVE games
>baby's first non 2hu shmup at that
That disparity
http://varstray.com/index.html
https://steamdb.info/app/416380/subs/
I wonder if this is actually being released today as planned.
>>125429873
>still no gameplay
I'll probably buy it day one anyways but why the fuck?
>>125322228
You just haven't found "the one" yet. I used to feel the same before I foundRaiden Fighters Jet.
>>125429560
>>125429661
Post your Mushi Ultra scores or kill yourselves you meme-spewing Crimzonfag sperglords.
>>125431701
>replying to bait that is already replying to bait
How hard will you shit yourself when they announce a new Cave game at Transition?
>>125432234
If they cut out with the otaku shit I'm in
>>125432234
Couldn't care less.
I'm hoping Treasure will have something up their sleeve for it though.
>>125432234
I will be moderately happy I guess.Havent even finished Mushi yet though
>>125177137
I found it to be the hardest of the 3, not counting stuff like return shot hard mode in Alltynex Second. It may seem easy but managing your shield can be tricky at times, bosses take forever to kill if you don't know the tricks, the room for error is relatively small and the final level doesn't allow you any mistakes at all even if you arrive there at full health. It's also easily the longest game in the series, so that doesn't help. I'm still yet to 1cc it while I finished both KAMUI and Alltynex Second on hard no problem.
![[zantzu]Galaxy_Angel_A_-_19_-_20_[D3B928CC].mkv_snapshot_21.26_[2015.08.17_15.12.25].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jsCo3St.jpg "[zantzu]Galaxy Angel A - 19 - 20 [D3B928CC].mkv snapshot 21.26 [2015.08.17 15.12.25]")
Are Bangai-O, Undertale and Nuclear Throne shmups?
>>125429746
>you will never dedicate so much time of your life into a shmup to the point your score is billions above everyone else.
>>125437480
Are you actually being serious now anon
>>125438047
I think it's a valid question.
>>125433478
Alltynex 2nd is the only one I have yet to 1cc. But to be honest I haven't played it as much as the other two because it hasn't appealed to me that much.
>>125432278
nigga, you're playing japanese games, you're already otaku
>>125438327
>I think it's a valid question.
I guess, it's just that he did mention Nuclear Throne.
>But to be honest I haven't played it as much as the other two because it hasn't appealed to me that much.
You dont like the sword mechanics? I thought they were nicely integrated, except that cutting bullets sometimes made certain patterns rather easy.
>>125438327
That's weird to me because Alltynex Second is the game I love the most out of them all. KAMUI is great too but the difficulty is uneven (final boss is a massive spike while the rest of the game's pretty easy) and the scoring system is a bit too simple. Reflex has the most fun scoring system but it's too long and drawn out for my liking. Alltynex Second is so good though. The only thing I didn't like about it is how easy the bosses go down thanks to the sword, but even that is fun in its own way.
>>125437480
>>125438327
Bangai-O is
Undertale is an RPG with occasional shmup-like mechanics
Nuclear Throne is a topdown shooter, it's closer to a twinstick shooter than a shmup
>>125438569
I preferred the lightning lock of Kamui, I think it is more forgiving but more fun to use than the sword of Alltynex 2nd. Especially in the last two stages where you constantly need to choose between speedkilling and destroying targets below.
>page 10
brehs...
>>125406249
Thunderforce IV is a god damn master piece. Yes it's worth playing.
>>125442354
We're gonna make it brah
No continues needed
Sexy Parodius sure has a weird soundtrack
>>125442712
Sexy Parodius itself is a weird ass name and game
I dont really know what you were expecting anon.
>>125442908
No I love it thank you based 90s Konami
Why is Gunnail so boring?
>>125444146
I dont know, why do you think it's boring anon?
>>125432234
It'll be okay I guess.
I just want my DDPs (DOJ, DFK, SDOJ) on steam god dammit.
Time for opinions:
Mushihimesama 1.5 or original?
>>125447414
Both are good
>>125447414
Original first.
>>125447414
I prefer 1.5
>>125447414
Mushi 1.5 looks like an updated version so I'm going to go with that.
>tfw finally done with my finals
Who /finallydonewithcollegeandreadytospendtheentiremonthshmupping/?
I can feel it in my bones /shmupg/
>>125447414
Original for 1cc, 1.5 for scoring + 1cc.
>>125462242
Losing your last live when you have the final boss on the ropes is the worst.
Still, you cant let him win. Better luck next time anon.
>>125425226
I like the idea of closer = more points but I fucking hate grazing.
>>125425226
>every mechanic is a bullet
Danmakufags everyone.
>>125460239
I wish. This is my finals week.
>>125462567
Does anyone even know how 1.5 scoring works? I can't imagine the stupid lock-on options being anything but a hindrance for scoring.
>>125462909
You can play PCB where some enemy hitboxes themselves are grazeable during certain attacks. It's exploited extensively for score in both stage 2 and Phantasm. But then again it's a filthy 2hu game.
>>125462590
Thanks anon, I feel like its going to happen soon enough (I hope) but I need to get the silly mistakes out of the way.
>>125463298
>Does anyone even know how 1.5 scoring works? I can't imagine the stupid lock-on options being anything but a hindrance for scoring.
Pretty sure the only differences are that counters roll down far, far slower and that being in close proximity makes enemies drop amber/jewels/whatever.
>>125463298
1.5's scoring is less memory-intensive. Counter drops off slower + there are more enemies so keeping it up is WAAAY easier.
You don't have to be a mushi god to shit out extradudesin 1.5, so I think it's easier to 1cc 1.5.
>>125463776
I find 1.5 hard to play through than 1.0
>>125464134
Overall it's harder, but with the amount of extra lives and bombs you get, you can cheese your way to a 1cc with a bit of planning.
>>125463776
I like the strictness of 1.0, even if it's frustrating at times.
>>125464471
I agree. The freedom in 1.5 is fun for just fucking around, but 1.0 feels much more satisfying to get down.
>>125462242
Keep at it! I'll bet you'll clear it this week.
Bumping with a bad R-Type game.
>>125470185
why's it bad? I recently downloaded it but haven't gotten around to playing it
What is the best Donpachi game?
>>125470279
It's the latest epic meme, my friend.
>>125470279
It's just a slog to play through. There's parts that will literally put you to sleep, and there's parts where the slowdown will kill your enthusiasm to finish. And the developers want you to do this 101 times to unlock all of the ships. At least the graphics are nice, though.
>>125471120
>What is the best Donpachi game?
I like DOJ.
>>125471120Ketsui
>>125471120
>meme
I don't think you know what this word means.
>>125470279
I wouldn't call it bad, but what is really annoying about the game are the many moments where basically nothing happens and the camera is just scrolling slowly and you wait for sometimes 30 seconds or so until finally another enemy appears.
They really should have focused less on the ships. Only put in the important main ships from known series and left out all the filler crap. If the stages would have more smartly placed enemies, the game would have been much better.
>>125425226
nothing wrong with any of them.
Milking, that's shit though
>>125471120
DOJ even though I am so sick of it for the rest of this lifetime
>No miss up to stage 5
>Get nervous, mind goes blank, forget my routes
>Die about three times in total before getting to the TLB
fml senpai
>>125476821
I hate that more than anything else.
Is Xevious 3D/G+ good? It's on sale at psn right now.
>>125476821
Same shit happens to me on the Crimzon Clover TLB's.
Them bullets are just too damn fast, man.
>>125476821
>do good
>notice you're doing good
>suddenly get nervous you're going to fuck it all up
>immediately fuck it all up
Why
It's my brain wants me to fail
>>125487412
thought I was the only one that had this shitty problem.
>>125487412
yeah, that's the absolute worst
I think that's why I don't even try for high scores or 1cc, because if I did I'd end up fucking up at stupid points. I just play to have fun and I'll naturally get better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE-4wnfVVZE
Remember you're going to have many runs that end like this before you get the one you want. The name of the game is perseverance.
>>125492621
>[YouTube] THE HARDEST GAME EVER!
>>125487412
I love this meme.
>>125492857
True.
I liked THE HARDEST VIDEO GAME BOSS EVER a lot more.
>>125433478
>the final level doesn't allow you any mistakes at all even if you arrive there at full health.
Wow you were not kidding. I think this is the most shit I've seen thrown at me in a shmup.
Still, I'm determined to kill this fucker and avenge Virgo.That whole sequence were you gained the improved shield was hype as fuck
>>125498423
while it's a spectacular encounter, I think RefleX has the easiest final boss in the trilogy, even though you can't suffer a single hit for the 1cc. None of its patterns are threatening except the final one with the purple waves - which you don't get to see anyway when you're gud.
>>125499965
Just to make sure, you're counting ALLTYNEX Second hard mode? I already 1cced AS in normal and I didnt thinkSatarielwas that bad.
Also thanks for that comic, these might be mediocre quality but they're still cute.
>>125501170
not too sure about AS. But the worst boss seemed to be that tank cunt.
>>125501497
Oh no argument there. Hated this fucker as well.
It's just unsatisfying to fight.
The "canon" order for the Siter Skain games are Alltynex Second - > RefleX - > Kamui, right?
>>125503771
Yup. You're gonna be seeing a lot of references to past titles in AS, but you dont need to get them to enjoy the game.
>>125504331
Cool. Was working on Kamui first, but I might start doing it in order afterwards.
Beep boop motherfucker
Does "The Lost Code" ring a bell to any of you people? I recall a shmup I used to play when I was around 6 or 7 on my parents' computer, but I only remember the title of the last stage.
>>125511124
Nope, sorry anon.
You should ask the /vr/ too, maybe you'll have better luck there.
>>125487412
I dont know how many times I'm going to tell you guys
Do not think aboutthe game
>>125511124
Could use a bit more. I don't know when you were 6/7, and something like "vertically scrolling" would do a lot as well.
>>125517383
Only if it was that easy.
How bad are the Yagawa games in survival for someone that's fairly new to the genre? Pink Sweets 1.01 and Muchi Muchi Pork specifically.
>>125502016
This fucker killed more runs than anything else. It's always either the cannons that fire lasers in the beginning or that one fucking ship that manages to sneak in a shot while you're too busy doing something else.
>>125523906
Given that the gimmick he's in love with is rank control, it's probably about as difficult as Battle Garegga/Bakraid and Batrider.
Oh god yes... Finally...
>>125527046
Great work, anon.
>>125499965
This comic is really cute. Where'd you find 'em?
>>125530190
Not him, but image search led me to
http://www.pixiv.net/tags.php?tag=%E3%83%91%E3%83%8A%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BB%E3%83%87%E3%83%BB%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B9
>>125532216
Ah. Thanks.
>>125466720
What am I looking at here?
>>125475805
>Milking
I dont think shmups is the genre for you then, aniki.
One last bump for the night.
>>125543928
>tfw all alone in the thread now
>tfw practicing Ikaruga on hard mode
>>125523906
MMP is one of the most simple and straightforward games he's ever made. The port with 1.01 is more fun to play than the PCB.
>>125540409
a good scoring system doesn't have milking. Example: StB
https://twitter.com/cavegames/status/677031565663211520
Ichimen Bancho has to be promotion for a SDOJ Steam port.
huh, reflex was removed from steam just a couple of hours ago
I wonder if someone buys the trilogy now when it's not available if they'll have the game once it's back up
ne ne, veegee, how come Dariusburst is not insanely popular given it has 4 player coop?
There's many people who buy games because of this feature.
>>125551264
Local only barring the use of that one visual feature.
>>125552548
*nvidia
>>125552548
Wat nvidia feature?
I'm thinking on picking up the Raiden Steam Dotemu rubbish just so I can legally play the roms on mame.
No, I won't play if I don't legally own them, I know you hate dotemu and let me tell you I don't like what they do, but I need to be moral to the end, until it hurts
>>125547853
I'm crossing my fingers for a SDOJ steam port.
I like DOJ as much as the next guy, but if I was Cave, making my debut on steam I'd put my 2 prettiest games there first (Mushi is there, Mushi Futari would be redundant as the second release, SDOJ has kawaii uguu anime girls opening perfect for the store page and more than 1 color for bullets, etc).
>>125547853
PLEASE port futari
I will love you forever cave-sama
>>125558741
SDOJ would be neat, I was thinking it could be DFK since it has a bunch of content they could realease. But like the other anon in this thread was saying all signs are pointing towards SDOJ at this time.
>>125558969
It'd be cool to have 1.01 as permanent DLC so more people can see how silly it is
Quick question, how would you setup obs to be able to correctly display a video feed from a capture card when playing in tate? It can't rotate images so how do people do it?
>>125562124
OBS rotates images for me just fine.
>>125562734
Oh I guess I had a different version of OBS, thanks for the help.
who /toaplan/ here?
>>125558732
Well, I did it, picked the Raiden dotemu thingie, not as horrible, but I'm not getting a fullscreen proper, will still use mame.
>>125564091
I liked Dogyuun....
>>125551264
>shmup
>co-op
Get the FUCK out casual normie scum!
>>125565010
Not everything is about competing, you have the ability to have fun in a more relaxed way with enemies you invite home to chill with, you have enemies, right?
>>125549806
I was going to buy the package next week during the sales, I hope it comes back by then.
>>125567436
I wonder if there's ever going to be a shmup with good online multiplayer. PoFV was okay I guess but
>Touhou
>Shitty netcode
>tfw passed discrete math
Thanks shmupg!
>>125572450
You're welcome?
>>125569204
Shame about the netcode too, as PoFV is pretty fun.
>>125572450
No problem, I guess?
>>125572450
Now get that 1cc.
Metal Slug X > 3 > 6 > 1 >>> 4 >> Cow shit >> XX > 5
Debate me atheists.
>>125572450
Nice, have this free wallpaper.
>>125582470
?????
>>125585053
it's a ranking for the Metal Slug games.
>>125583162
God, Reco is so adorable
>>125585892
Metal Slug isn't shmup.
>>125582470
I like all metal slug games, maybe some aren't that great, but I dare say there are truly no black sheeps.
Not a shmup series, though
>>125586129
I find both character of Futari freakin adorable.
>>125583162
I like Futari's art better than the weird alien look they have in the original.
Ello, new to this general. Do you play jets n guns at all? I checked the past few days and never noticed it being mentioned. I really like it, although still haven't managed to get past the fourth level yet. What do you guys think of it? Any tips for someone getting into it?
>>125591059
Don't use energy weapons, they overheat like nuts.
>>125547181
StB ain't a shmup, dummy.
>>125583162
Why does she have a pokeball?
>>125592807
Photo-shoot 'em up then?
>>125593405
photo 'em up
doho
>>125593405
Dodge 'em up, like every other 2hu/bullet hell snoozefest.
Shooting/aiming is absolutely pointless in them.
>>125593537
>aiming is absolutely pointless in them
Wow, it's stupid enough anyway but it's even dumber when you're talking about Shoot the Bullet.
10/10, probably the funniest post I've read in a while.
>>125591059
I played it for a couple of hours and I dropped it at the part wherethe giant cube is chasing you because you stole some giant container, full of beer IIRC.At that point, the game started being bullshit with bullet sponges. Especially that fuckingmouse with a hat boss.
>>125594017
I wish 2hufags would gas themselves already.
>>125594641
You first desu
>>125594641
And I wish you would pull the stick out of your ass and beat yourself to death with it, but I don't get what I want either.
>want to play battle garegga
>both semi-functional saturn emus run like complete shit on PC and I have no idea why or how to fix it
>my actual saturn is busted as fuck and is lucky to boot to a game after 30 attempts
>>125594017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4z2HEjF-as
Show me where any aiming takes place in this video. You just get close and push a button for bullet cancel, it's frankly even more pathetic than using homing shottypes.
>>125594716
>>125594807
Touhou and doujin shitters: the cancer that killed the shumps genre in action, everyone.
>>125595021
>All doujin games are bad!
>>125595108
Care to show an example of an actually good doujin shump?
Inb4 trash like Hellsinker or Crimzon Clover.
>>125595340HellsinkerandCrimzon Clover
Patriot Dark now that was a good donjon game.
>>125594641
>>125595021
Elitists who overvalue their own opinions: the cancer that killed shmups in action, everyone.
Since you bullet hell faggots have a hard time understanding what real aim is, I'm going to show you something that takes real aim. See those blue glowy parts? They are the weak point of the enemy. In your bullet hell trash the whole ship would have a hitbox that you can kill, but in shumps that take real aiming skill like this you have to shoot a weak spot in order to kill it. Hence why you danmaku shitters prefer to play mindless games like CAVE or 2hu when you could be playing real shumps instead, but you're too braindead to do so.
The more you know.
>>125595752
Yes, keep threadshitting! Soon, both the shmup threads on /vg/ and /vr/ will be the worst on their respective boards.
>>125595664
I'd rather a community of elitists who actually play these fucking games and know what they're talking about than clueless collector cunts and nostalgia tards like you who know absolutely fuck all about this genre at all. Please give us more ill informed opinions on how you like some shmup based on aesthetics alone or maybe some ill informed bullshit claim about some game being to hard or lacking some design that you aren't even good enough to recognize in the first place. Elitist just means dedicated individuals with a real passion for what they do and is a term coined by casual cry babies who don't have it in them to not be lazy degenerate fucks who collect things to make up for their lack of skill at everything that requires effort. The shmups community is to busy playing and enjoying what it does to care what outsiders think anyway. You stupid cunt with the i.q of a carrot.
>>125595901
nah, the threads here will just die for 2-3 years like last time
>>125595340
Cho Ren Sha 68k, Crimzon Clover, Touhou, Hellsinker, Blue Wish Resurrection, Tale of ALLTYNEX, and Judgement Silversword.
>>125595926
>this fucking pasta again
>>125596006
nice shit taste you got there, family
>>125595752
what if we liked all types of shmup?
>>125596367
>Cho Ren Sha 68k, Blue Wish Resurrection, Tale of ALLTYNEX, and Judgement Silversword
>shit
>>125595340
>crimson clover
>trash
I understand shitting on touhou garbage, but this is ridiculous.
>>125592951
Gotta get funding somehow. I'm sure they got big bucks for advertising.
>page 10
brehs...
>>125582470
Only played 3, X and 1, but I guess those are the best anyway.
>>125595926
>play these fucking games
There's that meme again. Amazing. What is it about the phrase 'play these games' that elitists love?
>>125606002
Play something that isn't just touhou trash, for a start.
>>125606278
I'm playing decode the cult psychology. It goes without saying that if you're in a shmup thread you play shmups, so why does this recurring phrase appear over and over? It's memespeak for 'play STG-cult approved games in the STG-cult approved fashion'.
>>125606002
They believe it's impossible to enjoy something that they don't, or to enjoy something they enjoy in a way that they don't.
Just treat it like normal shitposting: ignore and talk around it.
>>125606819
To elaborate, it plays into that whole "I'm right and they can't see it" thing that a lot of people have. They believe that if you begin to do what they do exactly as they do it, you will come to and realize you were having fun wrong, or that you'll at least agree that what they like is good and better than what you were doing.
Anyway, what's everyone planning to play over the holidays? I'm thinking of finishing up Mushihimesama on maniac, then either spending winter break on Dariusburst or maybe putting actual effort in Darius Gaiden.
>>125606819
That's not even true.
There are lots of horis people enjoy that I can accept are great games, for instance, but 2hu is genuinely trash.
>>125607449
I'm planning to get that 1cc of PCB, I've been saving this game just for the winter.
Then I'll probably pick up Dariusburst if it goes on sale and see what the Darius games are all about.
>>125607620
>Touhou is shit because I say so!
baka desu senpai
>>125607852
>I'm planning to get that 1cc of PCB, I've been saving this game just for the winter.
Good pick, I love that one. What difficulty? I almost had my hard 1cc down before I got sidetracked.
I get sidetracked too damn often...
>>125608448
>What difficulty?
Normal. I'm not good enough for hard yet, plus I already decided to 1cc ALLTYNEX Second Hard Mode so I dont want PCB eating too much of my time.
>>125609078
Cool. Enjoy it, the final boss is one of my favorites.
I don't mind 2huposters and euroshmupposters.
>>125609707
I can live with the euroshmup posting, but I think I've just about had it with the 2hu shitters.
>>125609605
> the final boss is one of my favorites.
I really like it as well, but my favorite Stage 6 boss will always be Utsuho.
Yuyuko does have the better theme though.
ZUN can't die of cirrhosis soon enough so this shitty cancerous lump can fuck off of my STG genre.
>>125609938
The Euroshmuppers are just unenlightened. The 2hufags are subhuman filth that only play the games to pretend they're "badass" little girls and then go jack off to 2D CP.
>>125610379
True, true.
>>125607449
I'm planning on making a small shitty game after I finish writing my final paper.
>>125609938
>>125610379
I've yet to see /jp/ cuteposters and secondaries on these thread so I don't see the problem.
They are fine as long they only discuss the games.
>>125611947
They're shitters no matter what.
But yes, it could get even worse than it is now...
>>125611947
>I've yet to see /jp/ cuteposters
Been a few, but it's hard to tell if it's actual /jp/ bullshit or just someone acting like it to try to cause snafu.
>>125612274
I just hope /shmupg/ won't take the path of /vr/.
>>125612829
Seems like the more toxic assholes from /vr/'s threads like to threadshit here too, but so far this general has been a lot... Nicer, I guess, as gay as that sounds.
Can't wait for another round of cross-board shitflinging for pointing it out, though. That was hilarious.
>people complaining about shmupg
>one of the very few generals where people actually discuss videogames
>>125613465
I love this meme.
I like Great Fairy Wars at least because of the freezing mechanic, not because of Cirno, Fairies or whatever.
>>125612805
Reco is cute, though
>>125614991
I never really could get used to the freezing mechanics. I did like how since Cirno is immortal, you have a motivation gauge instead of lives.
>>125613060
>toxic
Thank god /vr/ doesn't have your tumblr kind around to fag it up.
Again, if you fags want a hugbox circlejerk, there is Reddit.
>>125616631
Who says I haven't been in the /vr/ shmup threads since the early days of the board? It's shit now, no matter how much you try to convince yourself that it's "just 4chan." There is no discussion, there is just shitting all over the place and acting like it's impressive.
Honestly, when it gets to the point that /v/ has better threads than /vr/, on any subject, it should be a sign that something has gone terribly wrong.
>>125617139
You are probably that butthurt Treasure drone who always gets blown the fuck out whenever Ikaruga is brought up. Either grow some thick skin or fuck off back to some safe space you can feel "comfy" in you pussy ass bitch.
>>125617372
Try again, I hated every second of Ikaruga.
>>125617464
Sounds to me like you must really suck at it.
>>125617464
Thin skin and shit taste a winning combination.
>>125609938
the people who bring up touhou here tend to actually talk about the games, so I don't mind them
it's the kind of people who post in touhou threads on /v/ that I hate. the majority of the posts in a touhou thread on /v/ will be about cute girls or puppets. if you want to talk about which 2hu ud fuc then go to /jp/. if you want to talk about tohomon then go to /vp/.
>>125616068
that's accurate. not really useful to post nothing but that though. I know people are trying to find material to bump with, but dig a little deeper.
>>125616631
I'd rather have reddit or tumblr kids than the human garbage that shits up the /vr/ threads to be honest family
>>125618493
>the human garbage that shits up the /vr/ threads
It's called danmakutards FYI
>>125618493
and this is why nobody takes the shmup threads on this board seriously
Why aren't you streaming your runs, /vg/?
http://stg.cow.no/
>>125618064
At least puppets is actually a game.
Touhou as a whole isn't just about shmup, anyway, but shallow cuteposting and funposting are still trash.
>>125618493
>anyone that doesn't spend the entire thread shitposting is from Reddit or Tumblr
I agree desu senpai
>>125619301
I don't do runs, I justpractice
>>125619301
Because I probably generate as much power taking a shit as this computer can output entirely. I'm just happy I can play the games at all.
>>125619301
Who enjoys watching that and why? I can't see what value people could possibly see in someone continually failing runs for hours while being silent the majority of the time.
>>125620016
Stop watching bad players who don't talk then.
>>125620692
Yeah right, as if other types of shmup streamers exist
>>125621934
Or that if they did it would make shmups not boring to watch.
>>125621934
twitchtv/aquas_
He talks while doing solo 1cc's of Batrider.
>>125622450
Is he back to doing Batrider? I thought he's been doing Ghouls and Ghosts (or whichever, I can't keep them straight) lately.
To any anons who are going to play RefleX, do not press Esc. Press Enter to pause the game and dont do what I did.
>>125628638
Closes the game?
God, why is that even a thing. I hate that so much.
>>125549806
>>125568130
it's back
that's really weird, it was gone for only 12 hours
https://steamdb.info/app/281860/history/
>>125628727
Yup
Just thought I should warn anyone who didnt know so they dont have to suffer like I did.
>>125628837
Does this happen often with Steam?
Maybe it's problems with the publisher or something.
>>125595752
Sure is hard to hit stuff with four options
>>125632489
Anon it's been hours, it's time to let that discussion go.
>>125632890
It's worse than that, he's been ranting about this same shit since the threads began
>>125633337
It's time to just ignore shitty posts, anon.
>>125632489
Because you're totally going to always have 4 options in a run of a Gradius game.
Actually play these games before you post you ignorant dumbass wanker.
>>125634919
Not always, but for the vast majority of the time.
>>125635792
In most Gradius games rank is going to fuck you hard if you get 4 options. You danmakutards don't know fucking shit.
>>125635928
They have no tolerance for losses like a death in Gradius, they all restart or ragequit when it happens.
>>125635928
Most being which? You can play through 1 and 2 just fine with all 4 options, and V is a casual shitfest when it comes to that. Are you just too bad?
>>125636783
4 and Gaiden are pretty ranky.
>>125635928
Rank makes almost no difference in most Gradius games, unless you're playing Nemesis US or some shit, and even there it goes up on its own over time so there's nothing you can do about it. Being underpowered is worse than anything the rank can do to you.
>>125636058
We're talking about the one Gradius game with no checkpoints by default, and you can just pick up the options you dropped after you die.
Compare that to any of the others where you actually have to learn a recovery route for any given checkpoint. Hell, I'd say half the fun of Gradius is in successfully coming back after a death. But what do I know, I'm just a danmaku tard on a break from grinding out some DOJ routes.
>>125470185
loved that it had so many ships. That at least gave it something interesting to do. But they unlocked so slowly. I think I had only 89 of all ships before I couldn't take it anymore.
Friendly reminder that Gradius is shit and hands down the worst of the three big horis.
Gradius more like Shitdius.2poo is also shit
>>125647132
Thanks for the reminder /r9k/
>>125647132
Back to your containment board you fucking frogposter.
>>125636783
Try playing the games beyond the first loop, casual faggot.
>>125648196
You mean where your powerup level accounts for an even smaller fraction of the overall rank?
Have you purchased Raiden Legacy so you can feel morally entitled to play the games in mame, veegee?
>>125651160
Why the fuck would I support DotEmu?
>>125651246
It's more about paying for the games to have a quiet conscience, really
>>125651160
No, I buy whatever console version has an arcade perfect port because I can always just sell the game for at least what I paid for it if not more 90% of the time.
>>125651160
>morally entitled
>dotemu roms have torrent metadata in them
>>125648640
Not sure what you're talking about... shields, lazers and options will always use the most rank unless you're very deep into the loops.
>>125651986
Don't they have agreements and so on?
>>125654352
I dare say they do have agreements, since dotemu is in the Raiden official facebook and all, it's their property, so if they wanna grab it from a torrent, they can.
Nothing irregular about it.
The problem here is being entitled to play them anon
>>125654352
They have agreements, but what they do then is torrent the roms and grab an emulator (without permission) and put all of that into a package and sell it.
I believe that some games offer little in terms of dodging practice while others will make anyone a "superplayer" in a relatively short amount of time. Case in point being touhou games. And here is the main idea:Anyone who plays enough touhou to clear a few of them on Lunatic (and at least one of the really tough ones: SA or UFO) will be able to clear the vast majority of arcade shmups with minimal effort.
One might reply that this could be said about any though shmup "achievement", that is anyone who gets a DOJ 2-all can clear other shmups with minimal effort, while this is somewhat true, the main difference is in the amount of time it takes for one to reach that level.
With touhou games (played on lunatic) it seems to take around a year to reach that level of "shmup mastery", while it might take 2-3 years if you are playing "standard" Arcade shmups. The reasons why touhou makes for such great shmup practice are not simple and probably beyond what anyone on these forums would care to know about, but the fact remains, touhou (on lunatic) makes you better at shmups quicker than any other game out there.
A nice thing about this theory is that it can be tested rather easily, take a shmup you have played very little or not at all and compare your score with someone else. then player A will practice for X hours on touhou lunatic and player B can practice on anything he wants (except touhou or a clone, obviously) for the same amount of hours. Then a few days/weeks/months later the two players pick another game (or the same if they havent played since) and compare their "blind run" scores. I am willing to bet that 19 times out of 20, the player who practiced on touhou will have improved much faster.
>>125654746
Yup, I wish they just sold licenses of use for the roms, that would be perfect. This way we'd pick the romset we want, for the emulator version we want.
It's really all I want, you can't really do better.
>>125655042
2hu requires a different skill set to most arcade shmups. They'll make you good at some bosses and that's pretty much it.
hey guys i want to get into mame and shumps, is there a huge pack of most of the shumps around for it? I only found this mame pack with 254 roms, not sure if it has all the new one though and its not a torrent..
>>125655912
Buy the games, play the games, set high scores in the games, talk about the games, marry with a qt that also does the same.
The cycle of life
But seriously, support the niche by buying the games, it's the right thing
>>125655042
Wow, I haven't seen this copypasta in forever. Reading it again makes me feel so nostalgic.
>>125657151
No I just what a torrent of them all, thank you. im not really into these games yet anyway and im a neet.
>>125655042
Why the fuck would you waste time on 2hu when you could be learning a shmup that has greater depth for superplaying.
Also, most western 2hu "superplayers" are trash and can barely play any real shmups outside of Cave's easier shit.
>>125658223
>Also, most western 2hu "superplayers"
>2hu superplayers
Why do people keep saying this? In my opinion, a game that doesn't have any actual superplays available, can't have any superplayers.
I mean, for example, DOJBL has HFD as a superplayer, thus you can say that anyone that has broken his score or can rival it, is a superplayer.
Same for Deathsmiles, Psyvariar, Battle Garegga etc etc, albeit with different players doing them.
You can't proclaim yourself to be a superplayer unless you can rival actual superplays. Anything else is just being conceited about your own achievements.
>>125658769
I don't know, ゆ~すけ is pretty good
>>125657654
>im not really into these games
But you will be, and you will want them, you will want them all, and you will play them, and even dream about them.
>>125658910
You can be a good player and not be a superplayer, that's not a problem at all.
But I still wouldn't call him a superplayer, because like I said, there are no superplays to use as a basis for comparison. So I'll just stick with calling him amazing instead.
>>125659173
can mame play the newest ones?
>>125141348
can this version play all of them?
the roms in here are very small.
I was looking for the newer 3d ones and that famous dreamcast game.
>>125659356
I'd say being a world record holder is usually enough to qualify someone as a superplayer. And there are plenty of 'superplays' on royalflare
>>125659571
>the newest ones
Anon, there are many shmups that aren't even in arcade and are quite new, they can't possibly be on mame
Say, since you want to try games, there's this free game called 'final boss' that you could look for in google, made by shmup aficcionados, you might like it
>>125659845
Oh, final boss is retrostyle, you might not like it if you want 3d stuff
>>125659820
>I'd say being a world record holder is usually enough to qualify someone as a superplayer.
That depends on the game, doesn't it? There are way too many people in the community that play some obscure doujin game just so that they can say "Look guys, I have WR!" It's also important to note the amount of dedicated players a game has and has had.
>And there are plenty of 'superplays' on royalflare
But are they official superplays? Are they something you can actually buy in a store?Do they come with an artbook? Please say yes.
>>125659968
It's worth just credit feeding through second loop.
>>125660532
I don't know where you got the idea that superplays are always released in stores, it just refers to any run that showcases exceptional skill.
>>125661072
That's because my definition of a superplay is a video of high-level play that actually got released by a company or group, something you can actually buy. And the scores provided therein are the ones I use as a baseline to decide whether or not someone is a superplayer.
>somehow survive an entire wave of final attack
>thisisit.jpg
>throw last bomb to setup safespot
>choke and bump into boss
fucking hell
>>125666389
Fug, I know how it is. Just glad I was able to overcome that bastard a few days ago.
>>125666389
Damn dude. My condolences.
>>125666389
Dammit anon
Cmon you can do this
>>125666389
You tried so hard and you got so far but in the end it doesn't even matter, anon.
>>125666389
It's like the game is fucking mocking you.
>>125660668
game name?
>>125666389
Be positive about it, now you can play the game more
>>125671990
Final boss, google it, it's free.
>>125672026
But I don't want to play Gunnail anymore. It's so bad.
Twice I made it to the final boss with the resources I need for an easy kill, twice I tilted and died anyway. Fuck everything.
>>125660668
How do you unlock that ship in the game?
>>125672276
P1 and P2 are different shot types in this game. You get the drill/sword during the final boss fight in a cutscene, and can activate it freely during the second loop that follows.
>>125672120
Cool. Thanks
>>125672354
>You get the drill/sword during the final boss fight in a cutscene
Well fuck, I can barely make it to the Stage 2 boss without getting horribly murdered.
Thanks anyway
>>125675301
don't tell me what to do
>>125666389
This is the stuff of nightmares. You poor bastard.
>>125675331
You're gonna have to if you want that 1cc anon
>>125675572
I don't
needs more hits
This kusoge isn't that bad, familiares.
>>125677040
Do you still get 5 hypers at the end of stage 2?
Parodius > Gradius
>>125678821
>not the webm
>>125678606
Yeah. It seems strange that you wait until the end of the stage to get all those hits instead of building it up as early as possible, I guess that doesn't actually give you more points.
>>125679148
Sometimes it's more worthwhile to use all your hypers in an area in which the amount of enemies is the highest. Same thing is done in stage 4 during the bit before the midboss.
Doing the out-of-bounds trick during the last section in stage 2 while you're in hyper-mode also nets you some extra points.
>>125678289
I cant even decipher what game is that
But I'll take your word for it anon
>>125678289
I could swear this game's been mentioned here, but I can't remember the name.
>>125679025
Someone POST it
>>125683023
>>125685927
Aqua Kitty - Milk Mine Defender
You're welcome.
>not buying Raiden Legacy to have the roms legally
These games are the milk, the tits, and possibly part of the horns of the cow
Except for the first raiden, on the insane grounds that reminds me too much of raiden 2 while being much shittier and not being exactly raiden 2 which riles me to no end.
Raiden's 2 blue laser is so fucking rewarding, yos
Which one and why?
>>125693565
Right for single player left for multi.
>>125693565
I prefer the left one because the screen is centered.
>>125693565
Left. I don't mind game screens that aren't centered, but I certainly prefer when they are centered.
>>125693565
I like left because of what >>125693950 and >>125693971 said
>>125693565
I prefer relevant game information to be relayed to my avatar through gameworld symbols or tokens and not abstractions like HUD elements.
>>125695532
Is there even a shmup like that? I'd like to see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfl6yPTOCXQ
gameplay footage finally
>>125693565
I choose something on a different plane of understanding
>>125691517
>playing Reset Fighters at all
No thanks. Seibu a shit.
>>125698605
>giant screen clearing lasers
>all those other weapons
Day 1 buy.
>There was a ~2 month gap between steam Mushi announcement and release
>Still 9 days left for the next announcement
Being a PC Cave fan is suffering.
they finally patched mushihime's screen size issues!
...now all that's left is proper button remapping so start isn't permanently on R1 and reset on L2
>>125698605
Fucking finally
>it's a star soldier-like
All of my money
>>125698605
Looks pretty cool, I'll keep an eye out for more.
>>125693565
None.
>>125697781
It wouldn't be hard to go halfway and dress up the HUD as your actual ship's dashboard instruments but I've never even seen that done.
>2hu doesn't have TATE by default
I feel sorry for you doujinbabies.
>>125693565
Left is better, but it should also have TATE support. Rotating stands are everywhere on panels these days, there's no excuse not to have it.
Hell, just let the player move the window around with adjustments, rotate it, and put it wherever they like, and move the shit on the side too if it's important.
>>125701651
Indeed, but at least there's a lot of stuff that's playable in MAME.
>dat final battle in RefleX
That has to be one of the best final bosses I've seen holy shit
>>125698605
Wow, that looks a lot more tolerable than I thought it was going to be.
>>125719652
Too many bullets and medals but eh.
>>125657404
Wait it's copy pasta? Shit, I'm usually really good at recognizing pasta but this one just flew past me.
Alltynex Second, RefleX and Kamui. Which one do you think is the best /shmupg/?
I will also accept >Shiter Stain as an answer.
>>125727812
They are all doujin trash. Go play a real shump like Mushihime-sama you casual fuck.
>>125728643
Dont worry anon, Mushi is on my to-do-list right after PCB.
>>125727812
I like Kamui the most, but AS is pretty baller. Can't wrap my head around the reflecting gimmick in Reflex, but that's because I'm stupid.
>>125730223
That's alright anon, RefleX probably has the trickiest gimmick out of the three. I've found that it's much better to use the shield aggressively getting right up to the enemies face.
Like when you're fighting up against Pisces, just get right on the side of it, almost touching him, when it's doing that spread attack after it's main gun has been destroyed. He'll drop off in two hits like that.
Is it me or is a 6x6 hitbox relatively big for a DDP game?
>>125732981
It is. I believe they're normally 4x4, or possibly 3x3..
>>125731651
I'll have to try that next time I do RefleX, as shielding defensively didn't work out well for me.
>>125734830
Here's a webm to better demonstrate.
You're gonna have to experiment quite a bit to see what attacks are most efficient to reflect back at the bosses, which ones are safe and whatnot. Just remember that your shield extends longer than where your hitbox is, so dont be afraid of getting too close to the enemies.
>>125727812
Where are all the high scoring niggas for Alltynex Second? The steam leaderboards for it are pathetic
>>125735503
Bumping into those bendy lasers is so much fun. I fuckin love bendy lasers.
I can't take SDOJ seriously with heliumbachi
>>125738183
But what aboutloli mecha?
>>125738174
I love the sound they make.
But the best reflect effect in the game is easily theKamui'slaser.
So wait, let me get this straight. They turned Hibachi into a loli? How come?
>>125743347
otakus
>>125727812
I prefer Kamui, but i havent given the others a lot of time yet
>>125594868
interesting that it tries something different though. Maybe a melee system would be fun too.
>>125595752
>aiming in a shmup
I'm new here but is this for real
>>125745553
Shhh it's been a day since, better leave it like that.
>>125724579
Yeah, just checked again because I couldn't remember the original source. It came from a thread on S11.
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=867115
>barely made it to the second loop in daioujou by using less than 3 bombs
>get too excited and lose my last life on 2-1
It's not like I could have gotten anywhere anyway, but fuck.
>>125746387
>posted 2 years
I figured it would be a lot older than that.
Still, why post it again here?
does anyone know who directed/designed dangun feveron?
>>125747663
Good job! Are you going to try and make it further into the 2nd loop?
>>125747965
He was probably trying to incite discussion or tempt responses.
>>125748570
Yeaah, I'm hoping to work on getting a 2-ALL. Doesn't seem like it's going to happen any time soon, but that won't stop me from working at it.
>>125749181
I love your attitude, it's a good one.
Most people forget that a 2-ALL or a difficult 1cc is a very long-term project. They get demotivated when they don't get it quickly. But as long as you work at it, slow and steadily, you'll start getting better and better results. It might take a couple months but you can do it! Good luck anon!
>>125743347
Why do bosses turn into loli mecha in DFK? CAVE really fell in love with otaku..
>>125749181
>>125747663
Good luck dude, I hope to hear about your progress as time goes on!
>>125749181
Good luck anon, you'll need it.
>>125749678
They sold their souls to milk cash from the scum of Japanese society.
New guy, I got dariusburst.
So what other shmup games are on pc?
I like shmups with cute anime girls on it.
>>125749876
Tale of Alltynex
Mushihimesama
Crimson Clover
Hellsinker
Final Boss
All touhous
I cant think of anything else.
>>125749876
Quite a lot, even if you just count Steam http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Shoot%20%27Em%20Up/, though Sturgeon's Law still applies.
An unfortunate trend is that most you'll find being made these days are bullet hell rather than the classic types, but if you like bullet hell there are some great ones, like Crimzon Clover and Mushihimesama.
Do you know what you like yet, or is Dariusburst one of your first?
>>125750180
Jamestown, Raiden 4, Satazius, Danmaku Unlimited 2, Exceed 2/3, ESCHATOS, QP Shooting Dangerous, Hydorah, Suguri
>>125750304
I have played some arcade shmups before but yeah pretty much just a casual.
I don't like bullet hell though, it sucks because that really limits my game choices but oh well.
>>125749876
IMO those are must-haves on steam
>Crimzon Clover
>Mushihimesama
>Alltynex Second
>eXceed 3rd - Jade Penetrate
>Ikaruga
>>125750778
>I don't like bullet hell though, it sucks because that really limits my game choices but oh well.
I feel ya. I like bullet hell, but the lack of variety is boring.
Regardless, you should give Hydorah a try, as it's free and really good. If you can get past the cringier shit in it, Xydonia's looking like a traditional game too.
>>125749876
Strania
Ether Vapor
I like Sine Mora, but lots of people here hated it
>>125748337
I'm interested in this as well, but can't find anything on it.
donpachi hk is so brutal
>>125756002
I don't understand regional difficulties. Not just DonPachi Hong Kong, but Battle Garegga doesn't give score 1ups outside of Japan, IIRC.
>>125756002
Doesn't change how shit it is though.
>>125757614
They're more likely to credit feed their way through maybe
>>125757805
>Donpatch
>shit
Fuck off back to MotK, diaperhead.
>>125758496
It's generic trash, completely overrated by modern Touhou tards.
>>125759006
>>>/jp/
>>>/v/
>>>/b/
>>>/a place where shitty posters go/
>>125727812
>Which one do you think is the best /shmupg/?
RefleX for plot and music, Kamui for everything else
>>125759006
Back to your containment board.
>>>/vr/2855807
>>125743347
Ikeda is otaku as fuck.
>>125736663
>Where are all the high scoring niggas for Alltynex Second? The steam leaderboards for it are pathetic
that just means that hackers haven't discovered it yet
>>125761549
Whenever that happens it's usually extremely obvious to anyone who actuallyplays these gamesfor score
>>125761645
>plays these games
pls dun trigger me
>>125761549
Too late, the #1 for easy/normal modes has a score of over 45 million
>>125759068
>>>>/jp/
Implying that's not where all you Touhou fans and Cavedrones come from
>>125762031
And that's why I'm telling the poster to go back there. Please try to keep up.
>Touhou fans and Cavedrones
Done getting roasted in the /vr/ thread so you've come back here? Pathetic.
>>125762081
Then why don't you go back to /jp/? Are you retarded? You are obviously the cavedrone here.
>>125762352
>Are you retarded?
Are you? I very clearly am telling that person to get the fuck out of here and go back to whatever hole they came from. Does your retainer know you're posting on 4chan? Go put your helmet back on and play with your blocks.
>>125762490
Why don't you get the fuck out of here, and go back to /jp/ yourself? Since that's obviously where you come from. You just said it yourself, fucktard.
>>125762701
You need to work on your reading comprehension, champ. Go look at all these posts you're getting fanny-flustered about and tell me which ones say I'm from /jp/.
Or are you just new. Do you not know what a >>>/jp/ means? Not familiar enough with the goings on to figure out that means "go away"? Maybe you should stop posting and lurk more.
>>125762860
You fucking retard just agreed with me that /jp/ is where all you Touhou fans and Cavedrones come from. That's why it's rather you should go there.
You are so stupid that you can't even understand what you are saying yourself..
>>125763108
Nah CAVE fans are cool, they can stay. You should probably fuck off, though.
>>125763179
>says the Cavedrone from /jp/
>>125763108
>you Touhou fans and Cavedrones come from
Point me to the post where I said I was either of those things, anon. I'll be waiting.
Or don't. You really ought to lurk more.
>>125763248
Me:
>Implying that's not where all you Touhou fans and Cavedrones come from
You:
>And that's why I'm telling the poster to go back there
You retard just agreed with me that you are a cavedrone/Touhou fan and that you come from /jp/. Yet, for some reason in the same post ypu try to tell me that I should go there.
You are so fucking stupid you make no sense and don't even know what you are saying.
>>125763248
Why are you still replying to the guy?
>>125763394
No, that's the post where I explained to you that I was telling a shitposter to go back to his shitposting boards. Try again, this time REALLY think about it.
>>125763441
Free bumps and entertainment before my C++ final.
>>125763507
You are really too dumb. It doesn't make any sense talking with you, since you obviously can't even understand your own words.
You agreed with me in this post. You agreed that /jp/ is where all you touhou fans and cavedrones come from. If you can't see this, you really should seek mental help.
>>125763649
You're not looking for posts where I agreed with you, you're looking for posts where I said I was from /jp/.
>>125763801
If you agree with me that you come from /jp/, it means the same as when you say it yourself, fucktard.
>>125759275
This is how I feel, except instead of Kamui it's AS.
I still havent gotten used to Kamui, so that might change.
>>125728643
Hey guys, do you see this post?
This is actually a 2poo poster flaseflagging against ACTUAL quality doujin games because he's buttmad no one likes his 2poo trash.
Don't fall for their tricks anon!
sdoj on steam when?
>>125772456
When does Cave announce it's next steam port again
>>125772456
I have started to play this recently, I can see the massive refund spike happening for it already like with Mushi.
>>125772856
>massive refund spike
>Mushi
>Owners: 12,134
U wot
There's nothing massive about the refunds of mushi
>>125375105
Heh, reminds me with SDOJ 360 Version.
>>125772456
Either it or MushiFutari is next, I'll bet.
>>125772856
>I can see the massive refund spike happening for it already like with Mushi.
Pretty sure that was Steam Spy being Steam Spy. It's a handy thing, but it's not 100% accurate.
>>125772695
26th
>>125677040
I figured out you have to delay shooting that big tank. If you shoot it while it's exiting the building it dies almost instantly for some reason and you lose a lot of hits.
I started hypering later too so I can get some of those things in the top right corner before it wears off.
>>125778682
>26th
>only 8 days left to 1cc Mushihimesama
Fug, I dont know if I can do it with how bad I am at shmups.
>>125782174
That may depend on how much pride do you have. Bombing more often/playing on Novice should do the trick, but that's up to you.
>>125782720
>playing on Novice
I dont mind the bombs, but that's going too far anon.
>>125782720
Novice mode doesn't count.
>>125782174
Don't worry Anon you can do it I believe in you.
>>125782174
Well, you can always try Original.
I can barely clear stage 3 no miss and stage 4 destroys my posterior on Maniac. But as soon as I read this I tried Original and 1cc'd it on my first try.
Do yourselves a favor and never play Gunnail. If you make the mistake of playing it anyway, be sure to not play it for score.
>>125785976
Really? I have 1cc'd Maniac and Arrange but I can't even beat Stage 4 in Original...
>>125782174
I got my first 1cc of original in a week, and my maniac is coming along nicely. Just keep at it.
>>125768804
I like how this post got deleted by the shitposting above it was left in tact
>>125772695
transition.tokyo/en
>>125786387
>>125788474
Nevermind. I just noticed I cleared 1.5's Original, which is piss easy compared to 1.0's Original. But it's still easier than 1.0's Maniac IMO.
I thought 1.5's original would be harder than 1.0's because Maniac is balls harder in 1.5. I was wrong.
>>125786162
I'll do what I want bitch.
Looks like Varstray comes out the 21ist and it has a store page now.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/416380
I hope it's good.
>>125797381
That art tho.
>>125763649
I see you're still salty as fuck you can't 1cc Dawn-patch or Touhou games because they don't give you infinite shields to block/absorb bullets in. You are such a fucking loser, jesus.
>>125803381
I see you're still brain damaged to not understand anything except in terms of 1cc and rectangles meme. Go tate yourself.
Hold on I'm making an infograph.
>>125804409
>rectangles
Perhaps you're the brain-damaged one, R-Type fuccboi. We weren't even discussing hitboxes this time around.
Are you like a poorly made bot programmed to respond to danmaku games by shitting on them? I'm starting to believe so.
>>125805097
You're thinking of the other guy.I haven't said anything about danmaku however you will never not be on blast for your cult affiliation.
>>125763649
>/jp/ is where all you touhou fans and cavedrones come from
I like cave and I have stepped in /jp/ 2 times in my whole life at best
>>125806381
Oh you're the bullet hell doesn't have level design troll. You're even more autistic than the buttdevastated Ikarugafag. Maybe you two should start dating and forget about imageboards, getting this upset surely isn't good on your health.
>>125806381
>stg cult
Nuclear Throne still isn't a shmup
The pic you presented is more defining of you than us, since you're the one wanting weird things as a shmup
Anon, why aren't you just happy and let it go?
>>125806381
>he doesn't care about score
Confirmed for casual as fuck.
>playing Mushihimesama
>tons of giant bugs around spewing tons of bullets all over the place
>90% of my deaths come from those small beetles that swarm in from one side of the screen
I've never hated an enemy in shmups this much before
>>125815202
Are you referring to the ones in stage 3 or 4? For stage three, the best method I found to dealing with them is to use Trace and have your options positioned on the sides so that they at least die before they shoot too much. Currently working on a consistent way to get through stage 4.
>>125817319
Both stages
While I'm dealing with the big bugs they just come out of the sides and swarm me
I'll try out the trace option, even though I like the formation a bit more
>>125818613
Yeah, I used to really like the formation option too, but I was watching someone stream it, I think it was aquas, and the way he described it made me see the value in it more. Something like "trace might not always be where you want it, but it's always on screen; formation can easily spend so much time off screen and not doing anything, even if it is easier to control."
>>125818613
As far as stage 4 goes, the main problem is the big green bugs you have to kill them asap so you can position yourself to herd bullets. Those and the Kamikaze bugs in Stage 3 are just smoke and mirrors in the end.
>>125797381
Looks pretty cool, at least.
>>125786162
Nice dude.
>tfw gaining consistency
>>125820989
If you're into scoring too you need trace. When you do the slow A tapping trick you have to keep all your lasers on the target, while hitting it as little as possible with your main shot, and you can't do that with formation, some of the lasers won't get on and you'll lose like 50% of your potential counter gain.
Made it into stage 5 on Mushi maniac! It's getting close, I can feel it.
>>125833050
Nice job anon, now take down that stage 5 and boss!
>>125594868
You're a fucking idiot. You use a video titled 'Shoot the Bullet Done Quick' to prove that aiming isn't important, when of course a speedrun isn't going to prioritize scoring where aiming is critical.
>>125839984
>responding to 2 day old posts
The only idiot here is you, friend.
>>125842017
I don't care. The disingenuous fuck might as well have used a pacifist run to prove that aiming doesn't matter in a touhou game. Of course nobody points this out in /shmupg/ because confirmation bias.
>Alltynex Second Hard mode
That's a ridiculous difficulty spike, it makes normal feel like Easy.
How about those thread competitions? Are we going to do any of that?
>>125839984
>>125842779
Don't let it bother you, he's gone for now anyway.
>>125853767
Nobody could decide on a game, but I'm up for it as soon as we do.
>>125846482
It gives that impression with stage 2 and the stage 3 boss but it's not that much harder overall. The boss fights for example are almost identical, and the difference in enemy attacks won't force you to do anything new either. At least that's how it was with my normal mode strategies.
>>125859106
Pick Mushihime-sama you indecisive piece of shit.
Should I buy Dariusburst on winter sale?
>>125865661
>Should I buy Dariusburst
Yes
what's the best vertical shmups to attract casuals?
i got a colleague of mine hooked up to dodonpachi
>>125867983
Giga Wing
>>125868143
Given that they're going to announce a second port on December 26, that seems very likely. If it was a complete failure, you wouldn't expect them to try it again right away.
Do you guys think this is good enough for CAVE?fixed a typo
>>125868202
If I'm not mistaken they were going to port 2 games to test steam's waters, so they're going to decide whether they continue porting games taking into account mushi's and the next game's sales.
>>125868162
1 or 2?
also we have a shitty pentium 4 with xp to play at work, the last fba run a tad slow, what can i use?
>>125868676
Both should be good, all of my casual friends loved playing the first one in co-op because of its over the top nature and the fact that bullet reflecting made them feel less intimidated when they see a nasty pattern.
>>125869338
I don't know about 1, but you are literally satan if you are suggesting 2 for a casual.
>>125869971
Well they aren't going to be aiming for a 1cc if they're casuals. They'll be too busy bathing in a sea of medals.
Kamui remake when?
New thread when
New thread, we made it!
>>125876695
>>125811978
http://imgur.com/a/q6BUr#0
