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PARTY HAT EDITION

>[PDF] Fallout 4 Vault Dweller's Survival Guide: Prima Official Game Guide
https://kat.cr/fallout-4-vault-dweller-s-survival-guide-prima-official-game-guide-t11452906.html

>Guide Hosted on Imgur
[Pages 1-281] http://imgur.com/a/fkRyo
[Pages 282-543] http://imgur.com/a/K8hym

>Fallout 4 comprehensive map
https://imgur.com/34sis9V

>Fallout 4 system requirements
http://pastebin.com/nYWLx1VH

>Fallout 4 spoken player names list
http://pastebin.com/2CBz47Y8

>Collectible Checklist and Interactive Map
http://fallouttracker.com/#!/

>Character Builders
http://www.nukahub.com/tools/special
http://www.gameplorer.de/fo4/#1

>Fallout 4 Mods Removed from Nexus
http://pastebin.com/2a6ePuTb

>Fallout 3/NV
http://pastebin.com/bAxesvPv

>/aco/ Fallout Thread [NSFW goes here]
>>>/aco/fallout

Pre-War Thread: >>124083780
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>expecting good writing and dialogue from Beth
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Nora a best
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>>124096427
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I'm not even a waifufag but nora a best
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>There's finally a clean Red Rocket mod

Thank fuck. Now we just need a mod to stop shit falling through shelves.
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>>124095692
My mishmash of raider power armor and unique power armor, wish there were a left leg and right arm unique so I dont feel SO FUCKING UNBALANCED
AND WHY THE FUCK CANT I PAINT RAIDER POWER ARMOR
FUCK
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silent majority love curie
fuck the obnoxious piper radicals
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how to side with minutemen but not destroy BoS?
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>>124096651
But I like them both.
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>>124096742
You can like both but you can only love one.
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>>124096651
The obnoxious piperfags moved to nora. The stupid ones still take the bait. The best ones let you like whoever the fuck you want to like.
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>finding another lover only days after your wife died

degenerates
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Point me towards melee build.

I can't finish the game continuing using guns, it's so fucking easy I want to vomit.
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>>124096698
just dont make the BoS hostile?
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>>124096809
Post approved by Todd Howard.
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>>124096839
yeah is there a certain point where I need to make a decision or something?
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I want a boat. I want a boat to make into my mobile base.
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Post tough moms
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>>124096651
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>>124096651
obnoxious min love piper
silent maj lovie curie
silent min love cait
I love Daisy
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>>124096838
You wanna be a sneak, or upfront fuck you heres my bat type of melee?
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>Not joining the Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0z08OpmEPc
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>>124096614
>not Curie
Am I being trolled? is /fog/ LITERALLY trolling me?

Why is Curie never mentioned in all the waifu discussions? She's literally perfect, super cute, extremely innocent, says stuff that makes your heart melt, and her accent is absolutely gorgeous.

She also created a cure for every virus known to mankind
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Threadly reminder to enjoy all Noraposts and reply to all Noraposters
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>>124096792
As a matter of fact I love them both every night. Sanctuary echoes with the lesbian threeways happening in my shack.
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reminder that "the writing is shit" = "I dont have any valid criticism against the game but feel like talking shit cause beth made it"
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>not waiting for page 8-10 to make a new thread

>>124096195
>as people associated discover it and either lie to themselves or set about trying to make things right
That's actually exactly what happens. Ayo is a good example of the former, and Liam is a good example of the latter. Liam's father is an interesting example of the latter- He unabashedly believes synths are conscious, sentient and sapient, but he doesn't want them to be free because he thinks they will suffer more in the wasteland than in the Institute.

>Though naturally I expect Bethesda to screw up any such explorations.
My entire run of FO4 was mostly just this, continually expecting Bethesda to fuck up and being pleasantly surprised when they didn't about 90% of the time. The dialogue is always laughably bad though.
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Where my minutemen bros at
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>>124097025
Minimum amount of sneaking. Blitz is my target.
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>>124096635
Curie dislikes drugs because she knows the physical and mental side effects that come with continuous use.

Strong dislikes them because you're using them to make you more powerful and aren't using the milk of human kindness instead.

Piper dislikes it and hates addiction because seeing her only friend and her true love deteriorate physically and mentally to the drug usage scares and upsets her.

Cait loves it because she knows what it's like to do them and how it makes you feel, but then hates you doing it after you white knight her because that machine didn't cure her mental addiction to the drugs, it only flushed it out of her system so she didn't have any physical withdrawals.
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>>124097058
>She also created a cure for every virus known to mankind
I have a question about that. It was revealed Father is dying to the common cold, and the vial Curie gives you can cure any virus in the world. How come there was no option to just give that vial to Father and cure him?
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>>124096809
Mind of Steel end is best end
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>>124097093
>continually expecting Bethesda to fuck up and being pleasantly surprised
FO4 is a fun game but incredibly mediocre.

I'm just glad I didn't pay for it.
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>>124097173
>Strong dislikes them because you're using them to make you more powerful and aren't using the milk of human kindness instead.
>Strong is a milkdrinker
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>>124097104
Ganna be tough point spread then, I only copied down a tank and rogue specs here from other anons, one is built around blitz/vats/stealth, the other is built for taking damage.
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>>124097093
>implying the old thread isn't still being posted in
>implying it's not already on page 8
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>>124097198
Bethesda literally wrote it out of their asses. "Hey this kid is sick, good thing there's a hole in the wall nearby and inside there's a cure to every disease known to man!"

What were they thinking
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>>124097173
>because seeing her only friend and her true love deteriorate physically and mentally to the drug usage scares and upsets her.

What
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>>124096809
I don't care, Nate was just a beard anyway.
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>>124097308
I want to take bloody mess and love wanderer, towards melee damage and blitz. Everything else into endurance probably.
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>>124097058
She's worse at stealth than Strong is, is extremely ditzy and that voice becomes infuriating fast, and she spent 100 years creating a cure without writing down her procedure, something any real scientist would do. She also doesn't come with a default gun with magic ammo once you complete her quest.

I don't hate on her, I fuck her regularly alongside all the rest, but there are reasons not to like her
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>>124097104
>Str for damage, Ag for AP, Luck for crits
>Huff some ultrajet
>Teleport around the place murdering everything.
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>>124096427
Best hidden shit in game? I havent found anything coooowl that didnt had a massive sign pointing at it
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>>124097282
Hey, neither did I. It's still blown my expectations away though. It has good gameplay, which is actually the most surprising. A few of the Elder Scrolls games have had good writing and they all have good setting, but Bethesda has never been able to do anything but really fucking garbage horrible gameplay. Oblivion's the closest they've come before this and its combat still needed mods to fix it and it had a lot of little annoying gameplay foibles that added up to shitty game feel overall.
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>>124097198
>Cancer
>the common cold
Cancer isn't a disease you fuckface.

Its a mutation in the cells, you can just jam antibotics in and its gone
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>there are people who
>literally
>haven't built a settlement solely for their harem to live in comfort
>they don't have negro settlers in tuxedos as help so they don't have to dirty their hands with menial labour

Shibbydibbydibs anons.
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>>124096646
>the consoled effect
Smh thqh family guy
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>>124097198
There isn't? I did that Vault 81 quest yesterday and i'm pretty sure i could keep it. I didn't though.
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>>124097425
>She also doesn't come with a default gun with magic ammo once you complete her quest.
Who the fuck leaves followers with their default weapon? They're always un-modded trash and don't tell me you don't have the caps/spare ammo to give them better shit.
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>>124097425
>I don't hate on her, I fuck her regularly alongside all the rest
Wow what a fucking playa.
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>>124097198
>Have magical technology that lets Kellogg not age for 60 years
>Clone Synth bodies in bulk
>Fuck with FEV virus
>Can't fix cancer
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>>124097456
Which elder scrolls game had good writing?
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>>124096965
>tfw cant turn chinese sub into comfy base
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>>124097470
>you can just jam antibotics in and its gone
can't*
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>>124097424
Well, you are going to want Rooted (9 str), Blitz (9 agi), Lone Wanderer (3 cha), and Bloody Mess 3 LUC)

Thats... 22 points right there. you start with 21, the SPECIAL book, and bobbleheads.

Its going to be one tight as fuck build, unless you dont care about Rooted's 25/50% melee damage bonus
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>>124097198
>cancer
>a virus
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>>124097582
Daggerfall
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Finally got Fallout 4 and have been playing for several hours, and I'm wondering, does anybody else get a strange sort of Gears of War vibe from playing it?
From the way the graphics and the death animations work, to some of the weapons designs, it really feels like I'm playing some sort of weird expansion of GoW.
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>>124097456
>Oblivion
>good gameplay
fucker, Skyrim had better gameplay then Oblivion.

And Skyrim had shit gameplay.
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>>124097352
Repeatedly take drugs in front of Piper outside of combat. She gets genuinely scared and upset. She tells you to be careful, they'll take you to a bad place, and then when you're addicted she tells you she hates what they are doing to you.

>>124097448
Not really hidden but I got a pretty good laugh out of the toilet fisherman in the looney bin. The joke is he actually caught the fish.
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>>124097198
>It was revealed Father is dying to the common cold
Err....what
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>>124097592

>tfw can't take control of Saugus Ironworks
>tfw you just have a tiny little shitshack sitting 50 yards away

WHY
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>>124097641
I will work my way towards Blitz. I don't want to start with it.
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>>124097582
Redguard, Morrowind, Oblivion. I'd say Daggerfall but it had a lot of inconsistencies and things that read like a teenage dnd nerd's first serious attempt at writing a short story, which bogged down the better parts unfortunately.

I also conveniently forgot Arena, which did not have a good setting, or good anything for that matter, but it wasn't even originally intended to be an rpg from what I've heard.
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Post Noras
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>Hey Blue, we'll take Shaun back and we'll be a happy family with Nat and Dogmeat.
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>>124097746
>Skyrim had better gameplay then Oblivion
Absolutely >>>/v/
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Alright /fog/, what the fuck is this?

I visited Teagan after becoming Sentinel to check out the cool new shit he had in stock for me. In his mods tab I saw for the first time a spare missile launcher targeting computer, so I snagged that shit right up and went home to install it. It showed up in the workbench as this instead, which was never an option to craft before. Is it just a unique mod? It's not listed in the wiki or anything, but I don't have any mods that add items like this to my game
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>>124097058
>>124097198
It was a cure to 60% of all known diseases in 2077, not a cure to all diseases in 2277. Her cure did not take in to account any mutations that happened to diseases after prolonged exposure to radiation over multiple generations.
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>>124097820
What about Skyrim?
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>>124097448
My favorite is still Mentats and Rad-Away in the trash bin on mutant base.

Small but amusing detail.
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>>124097642
>>124097580
>>124097567
I thought for sure Fathers doctor said something along the lines of "We can create synthetic humans yet we can't cure the common cold." as Father announced that he was sick. Where is it mentioned that it's cancer?

Cancer makes a lot more sense, even though I'd thought for sure that was cured in this timeline considering every single human on earth has radiation damage yet there's a fuckton of old people.
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>>124097603
Which is why pot is the only thing that legit cures it.
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>>124097883
>playing as a man

What a faggot
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>>124097815
Here is some copied and pasted advice then:

The Tank, for starting SPECIAL you want Rooted, which is 9 STR. Lone Wanderer, which is 3 CHA. Bloody Mess, which is 3 LUC. Rest is your choosing. Heres the required perks:

Lone Wanderer, no companion besides Dogmeat. Rank 1 offers 15% damage reduction across the board, Rank 2 offers another 15% damage reduction

Toughness, most of the game is Ballistic damage, 10/20/30/40/50 DT is great, unless you plan to always be in Power Armor or join the railroad, then this is not that great.

Armorer. You are going to get shot at a lot when running into melee, Metal Armor provides amazing Ballistic resistance, moreso than combat armor, but combat armor has more energy resist. Once you start polishing metal armor as well as applying Strengthened sub-mods to arm/legs, and Pneumatic to your chest.. it'll be great being melee at all levels. If you have enough END for Adamantium Skeleton you can apply different sub-mods like explosive damage resistance to take missles to the face and laugh at mines.

I am unable to stress at how awesome the Pneumatic mod is for melee characters, sometimes you shrug off a bash/power attack, sometimes the bash/power attack does not do much stagger. Pneumatic is a required chestpiece sub-mod for all levels its available

Blacksmith, for melee mods, etc. Ignore armor piercing mods and bleeding mods, go for the mods with the highest damage increase.

Rooted, this gives you 25/50 DT and 25%/50% melee/unarmed damage standing still and using VATS.

****Warning, third person camera power attacks will move your character canceling out the Rooted perk bonus. VATS and first person are fine.****

Bloody Mess is more damage, plus some giggle moments watching things explode when you club them with a bat.
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>>124097820
>Oblivion
>good writing
this has to be a /v/ tier meme
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>>124097746
>>124097963
Can either of you actually define "gameplay"?
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Is rooted worth it for melee builds? The only difficult things (on survival) are enemies with guns and I'm constantly chasing after their back-pedaling.

If it's a death claw, well then you can't stand and fight it anyway, it'll just throw you on your ass, I usually just pop some jet and keep circling to it's back.
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>>124097871
>freckles
the intensity slider works well with my erection
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Cheeky.
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>>124097784
Are you on PC?
Spawn a workshop.
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>>124097248
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3983/?
That's neat and all, but I hope people make it like a charm and wearable like they did for 3 and NV
>it's in your mouth when running around
>you take it out and hold it in your hand during dialogues
>tfw your shit at making mods and can only pray someone else has the same idea
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>>124097746

There's almost no difference, they're both garbage.
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Howdy folks! Glad I caught you!
Do you have time for some questions about Vault-Tec's newest fiction-immersion product, Fallout 4?

Here are the polls for my last questions. Please, only answer once!

>How does the SPECIAL Perks system stack up against the SPECIAL + Skills + Perks system?
http://strawpoll.me/6145212

>How do you feel about the removal of Skill Checks (Speech, Charisma, Guns, etc) and Special Checks (Strength, Perception, etc)?
http://strawpoll.me/6146567


Today, I'd like to ask you a few questions about the story of Fallout 4.

Did you like the storytelling in Fallout 4? Was it engaging to you?
http://strawpoll.me/6160943

Feel free to elaborate in a comment; How did the story compare to others in the Fallout series? If something seemed off, what was it?
Please pick an option closest to your opinion. If you feel as though none of the options suit you, tell me, and I will try to incorporate it into a new poll.
Secondly, how do you feel the change in the way dialogue is handled effected storytelling?
Does the 4-choice dialogue system work for a game like Fallout? Did you feel like it effected the way you engaged in the story?
http://strawpoll.me/6160981

Again, feel free to elaborate in a comment, and let me know if you feel as though none of the answers suit you.

Thank you very much for your time!
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>>124098013
His remark about the common cold had nothing to do with Father's problem. That's just a random comment he makes. Father has cancer.
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>>124096427
>blow up the institute and evacuate
>LITERALLY NOTHING CHANGES AFTERWARDS

Not a single fucking person from inside will reappear except Madison Li if you BoS'ed her.

No ghouls if you blow it up, no survivors if you evacuate. Just a few commonwealth NPCs mention it. No OC and meetups.

Bravo Bethesda for getting worse than FO3.
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>>124097967
>immortalguys phsyhic gun mod
>daedric dagger mod
yep, there are uniques. Not sure you found one but its possible.
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>>124098052
Thanks, I don't like 3rd person anyway. 3rd person is more suited for cover based shooters.
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>>124098123

That's a real qt.
Which preset did you start with?
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>>124098264
Wait for DLC
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So my settlement has more Power, Food and Water resources combined far surpassing my Defense rating.

How often will it be raided?
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>>124096612
>>124096427
whoever makes these, those dialogues are atrocious

>>124096638
Erin mod when?
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>>124098408
once every 200 years because raiders never attack
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>>124098234
There are still SPECIAL and Speech checks. There are various quests that let you bypass fetch steps via INT skill checks.
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>>124098073
First poster, but gameplay is all the mechanical systems that one uses to actually play the game.

In regards to Oblivion, its attribute/skill system as complete and utter shit for the same reason Fallout 3 was, it was an action game trying to masquerade as an RPG, and nothing fucking matter because of it.

STR and melee weapon skill damage increases were so small you could go 15+ levels and never notice them, attributes were so poorly calculated the difference between 80 and 100 INT amount to all of two medium level spells.

Skyrim played far better because it stopped pretending it was an RPG, and just went ful on action game.
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>>124098408
Depends on how many other settlements you have.
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>>124096427
>tumblr
remove yourself
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>>124098384
9 i think. only changed the nose and hair. +freckles ofcourse. and some eye shadow
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>>124097973
Good setting still but the writing is all "my thing was taken, go kill these draugrs to get it back!" and "we need to perform this complex ritual, so go kill some draugr to get the thing we need to do it!" and the books are mostly shit that was in previous games while the new ones are just reinforcing the whole "by the way shouting was actually dragon language and the nords were super obsessed with dragons even though that has never been mentioned before now" thing. Then the actual questlines are just terrible, from casting one spell to get into the college and being the most important person there after two quests to the companions revealing they're werewolves and trying to get you to join their furry orgy because you saw Farkas in his underwear.

>>124098061
/v/ hates Oblivion because it wasn't Morrowind and /v/'s demographic mostly overlaps with people who played Morrowind when they were kids.
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>>124097746
Oblivion was shit in 2006.
Skyrim was the SAME shit in 2011.

Oblivion is more forgivable, and thus less worse.
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>>124098447
Do you have one with Hancock playing with his knife?
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>>124098390
shill marketer, get out

>>124096983
stop avatarfagging, baseball vest curie spammer
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>>124098514
where do you get cute fanart then? shad?
tumblr is good for one thing and one thing only and that is volumes of cute art
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>>124098514
Cool meme bro.
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"YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN TAKE ON THE USA AND WIN, "SURVIVOR"? SO ARROGANT. TIME TO PUT YOU IN YOUR PLACE."
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>>124098234
Instead of doing a strawpoll you should do a google docs survey. Worked great for /twg/
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>>124098667
Don't tell them to stop, because they won't. Just report and ignore.
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>reaching The Slog
>meet Arlen Glass
>"oh another radiant quest"
ended in feels I didn't want ;_;
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>>124098578
Skyrim wasn't the same shit, not by a logn shot.

Oblivion's scaling system was so bad, even if you focused on weapon and armor skills, you could STILL reach a point where everything out damaged you and made the game impossible.

In Skyrim, the only way for that to happen is if you focus only on non-combat skill y not playing the fucking game.

Skyrim also introduced far larger ranges for shit like HP/Macgicka/Stamina, and made the forced perks from Oblivion, which made every character the same, into optional perks that allowed for at least SOME character diversity.

Skyrim's gameplay still sucked, but it was MILES better then Oblivion.
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If I blow up the Prydwen with the Minutemen will I still get random BoS patrols to fight?
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>>124098514
Like it or not, tumblr is where pretty much every artist posts their art nowadays. You either have deviantart or tumblr for art posting, and only weebs and fetishists visit DA anymore. You want art, you go to tumblr. It's as simple as that. The fact that a tumblr filename triggers people is just a bonus.
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what to do, /fog/?
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MAAAAYBE
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AR-15/AR-10 when?
This Machine when?
1911 when?
That Gun when?
FG-42 when?
M3 Grease Gun when?
Browning Hi-Power when?
Pump shotguns when?
CETME when?
Literally any guns from the previous games when?

I am SEVERELY disappointed in the lack of weapons. This game was touted to have HUNDREDS of weapons, yet they're all modifications of the same couple guns.
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>>124098975
>This game was touted to have HUNDREDS of weapons
Uhh no.

todd said shortly after e3 that there was around 50 base weapon

dont know where yo u got hundreds from
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>>124098874

I don't give a shit about that.
I abused magic in both games.

I meant the combat, the dialogue, the motion, the world design.
It's the same shit. And Skyrim's over simplification was a step down.

Not to mention the graphics, which is another case of Oblivion being bad for 2006, but Skyrim coming out in 2011 and looking like something from 2006.
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>>124098956
They're ferals. Kill em all
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>>124098513
Sanctuary and Red Rocket as well as the far that's nearby. They all have their Defense rating surpassing all resources combined.

Castle is undermanned and separated from my resource caravan and the only other active one is Hangman's Alley which actually got attacked.
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The recent Samurai Jack announcement made me remember X-9. Whoever was writing Nick Valentine's story must have just watched that episode.
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>>124098956
What did he say?
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>>124098956
This quest was fucking pathetic.
>this is what Bethesda thinks that it is morally grey


kek
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>>124098956
kill them obviously, they're ferals. this isn't supposed to be some moral dilemma, this guy is just a traumatized retard who can't tell the difference between prescient ghouls and ferals
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>>124097448
I'm sure everyone and their mothers have seen this already, but I don't care.
MATT DAMON.
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>>124099087
some idiot is feeding feral ghouls
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>>124099061
>I meant the combat, the dialogue, the motion, the world design.
All of which were far better then Oblivion,s even if still shit.
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my attempt at nazi ideal stormfag fantasy
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>>124096838
Blitz, Reaper, Rockville Slugger (Chao's Revenge for Assaultrons) and you're good to go.

I also like having Moving Target to close in on enemies. There are unique combat armor leg pieces that increase speed by 10% each, which you can mod further to reduce AP usage when sprinting.
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>the institute is the only faction with a unique final mission

and there are still people who think they aren't the best
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>>124098956
I killed him, but only cause it wouldn't let me chastise him for stealing a shit load of food.
Its post apocolyptic. Stop stealing food.
Especially for a bunch of mutie shitlords that can't even not go feral.
Wiped out the ferals just cause they are a nuisance.
Almost as bad as the fucking super mutants.
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>>124099102
I sent him to prison and then broke him out of prison when I killed the BoS.
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>>124099184
>that nora
lmao cute in an insane way
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>>124099184
Jaw is a bit too wide. His eyes, nose, and mouth are fine, but the jaw and chin line fuck it up.

That, and the fact that your Nora looks like a big eyed jew.
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>No way to move a companion into home plate in diamond city
>can't even do it with mods or cc

What a shit game

Is there anyway I can get Macready to move into diamond city with me or am I fucked until geck comes out?
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>>124099202
Are luck and crits worth it?
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>>124099102
wat
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>>124098234
Todd? Is that you?
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>NMA is spergining out over the ghoul kid in a fridge quest
hilarious.
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>>124099184
Your Nora looks like a homicidal maniac
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>>124099184
Look at the guy from wolfensten. The perfect man.
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>>124097493
>Consoled effect
Are you fucking daft you nigger?
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>>124099175

No.
You still swing a sword around like a retard swatting bees. There's no difference between a level 5 in one-hand and a level 100, unless you count the damage and the swing speed.

I've replayed both fairly recently and there's almost no difference.
They're both equally shit. But Skyrim came out 5 years later. So it's worse.

New Vegas had more improvements over Fallout 3 than Skyrim did over Oblivion. They practically even had the same landscape.
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>>124098956
I sent him to jail because he's a fucking moron.
I get trying to protect non-feral ghouls. But Feral's only act on absolute basic instincts. Fight or light, and eat. That's it.

He's a liability and is endangering all the BoS there. (not that they couldn't handle the ferals, but they're also losing food supplies daily)
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>>124099528
>ghoul kid in a fridge quest

Haven't run into this. Details and how to trigger it?
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>computer won't play the game
>appears to be a problem with my video drivers that haven't been updated since win 8
Shit, thats what I get for using a shit computer.
At least a replacement isn't far off.
And I have it on my bone, so its not like I can't play it. Just no console which is annoying as nick has disappeared and I can't find him at all.
I still have to play through fallout 3 though.
And I have it and all the dlc on steam, so that will be cool.
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>>124099561
>They practically even had the same landscape.
Ok, now I know this is a troll.
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>>124099372
Absolutely. The thing about melee is that you either have 0% chance or 95% chance to hit in VATS, so perception is a dump stat. Agility/luck are your bread and butter. I don't even have maxed out strength. You can get plenty of strength bonuses from outfits, power armor, chems, liquor, etc. Sneaking is okay, but I'm usually too impatient for that. Blitz is really key, since it increases your damage immensely. You're gonna want to bounce between enemies like a pinball.
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is anyone else already getting bored of fo4?
Can you guys recommend me some fun quests,places to explore,items, anything??
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>>124099528
To be fair, it is a really, really, really shitty and dumb quest.
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>>124099665

>Cyrodiil
Slightly forested plains

>Skyrim
Slightly forested plains + more snow, and useless mountains

Cyrodiil even had a lot of snow, too. And more interesting monsters.
Shit, I see it now. Oblivion is the better game!
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>>124099641
Go to university point, and travel south, eventually you will run into a fridge with a kid trapped inside it saying he is stuck and needs you to open the door.

You find out hes been stuck in there since the war, having been ghoulified by the radiation.

He aks you to take him to his house to see if his parents are still there(they are) and some Gunners try to get you to sell the kid and his family to them so they can sell them as slaves.

You can either sell them, fight the gunners, or lie via a speech check and say the family is gone
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>>124097746
>>124098578
Oblivion had
>actual RPG mechanics beyond dialogue choices and incrementing skills
>a dodge roll
>more weapon diversity and weapon types
>unlockable directional flourishes/power attacks with various effects
>classes
>shouldn't really count but modded in parries, better dodge rolls, rebalanced combat that actually makes it play like a knockoff version of a decent ARPG a la Dark Souls and a huge variety of weapon types with distinct movesets
>a shitty leveling system that rewarded choosing skills you wouldn't use much as your primaries and punished using a variety of skills or those you had chosen as your primaries
>Daedric-armoured bandits

Skyrim had
>the shittiest possible implementation of dual wielding, a dumb idea to begin with, but at least it had it
>sprinting
>diagonal running animations
>logically armed and armoured enemies
>entirely hack n slash action gameplay with no features more complex than blocking, during which you still receive partial damage and can be easily guard broken with a power attack and staggered, meaning there is no point to ever actually blocking; in other words it's a dps race
>almost no weapon diversity, no moveset diveristy, no moves beyond the tap-tap "combo" and power attacks
>still shouldn't count but it's apparently impossible to add fully functioning new weapon classes, or at least nobody has figured it out yet, with the best attempts that have been made being painfully shoddy, while combat mods all still feel like the same vanilla dps race except now your stamina decreases and everyone does more dps; implementation of things like parries are hacky and unreliable at best due to the script engine's incredible slowness, only script dragon mods have any kind of reliable responsiveness

I feel Oblivion's pros heavily outweigh Skyrim's and vice versa for the cons, but hey, opinions, right?
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>>124099174
>some idiot is feeding feral ghouls
Sounds familiar.
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>>124099759

You can do 90% of the quests in one playthrough.
Just look up a list.
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>tfw your nora looks like a mix between that merchant girl /pol/tards love to quote and anne hathaway
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>>124099184
Looks weird
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>>124098234
I have a MAJOR fucking problem with the pacing in the game's story
>Given 10mm pistol right off the bat
>given good power armor only a few minutes in

Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it for the most part but a few things should have been expanded upon

First off a standard police issue .38 revolver should have been added to the game as the original gun you get, the absolute lowest tier of gun.

Second Super mutant armor should have been added to the available items that can be attatched to the power armor suits, as of right now super mutant armor is usesless, and to reference my second point you should have been given an arm and a helmet from T-45 power armor at most, having to use super mutant power armor to fill in the gaps until you find some raiders in raider power armor by luck, the fact that by exploring the world for a total of thirty seconds can net you a whole nother suit of nearly complete armor is fucking idiotic and ruins the skill leveling in this game.

TL;DR
>shittier pistol to start with instead of the 10mm
>power armor should have been introduced differently
>power armor levels should have gone
-super mutant
-raider
-t-45
-t-60
-t-51
-X-01
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>>124100020
> merchant girl
The country singer cockmongler?
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>>124100048

>It smells here
>My feet hurt
>I wish I was home cleansing the fatherland of undesirables.
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>>124100020
Why would you make a ginger?
He will get both radiation and sun burns.
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>>124099184
>my attempt at nazi ideal stormfag fantasy
Hope the irony is not lost on you.
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>>124099882
>unlockable directional flourishes/power attacks with various effects
Skyrim had the exact same thing in its perks which were literally the same perks from Oblivion

>actual RPG mechanics beyond dialogue choices and incrementing skills
None of which mattered because the game was an action game and not an RPG.

>more weapon diversity and weapon types
all of which were just slightly better versions of the previous tier weapons that gave you no reason to use anything but daedric.

>>classes
None of which mattered in the slightest and were nothing but labels on the screen since you could raise every skill and attribute to 100, as well as do every guild, regardless of your class.

Basically, all of your pros for Oblivion are cosmetic shit that changed nothing about how the game played and literally amount to MOAR for the sake of MOAR!
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Rate my qt.
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>>124100228
Gross/nasty
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>take fort independence
>forget that completing it makes Preston stop following you, so you have to ask him again
>can't find him after fast traveling somewhere
>decide to do one of the quests for the marker to appear above him
>do the infinite quest
>Preston is somewhere in the middle of the map
>go there
>he's stuck in a rock
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>>124100228
>old woman's grey mane
>fish lips
>lipstick
6/10
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>>124100228

Bethesda Hair Texture/10
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>>124100228
>can't make Nick wear the Silver Shroud costume and hat
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can we get a NPC ghoul ranking?

Kent > Arlen > Vault-Tec > Daisy
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>talk to teagan
>hey sentinel, we could use some food, go talk to these guys at greentop nursery

sure, sounds reasonable. americans in my day paid taxes for shit like national defense, i'll go have a talk

>persuasion success, didn't even have to whip out the sword or the crazy eyes
>ok, we know what this is, but raiders usually aren't this polite about it, you'll get some food after the harvest
>wentbetterthanexpected.jpg
>the brotherhood now controls this settlement

oh cool, the brotherhood expands, wonder what happens now?

>try to use workbench
>you aren't allied to this settlement

HOLD THE FUCK UP. I'm the god damned sentinel of the brotherhood, why the fuck can't I use the goddamned workbench? Is there any benefit to doing these quests at all? Why shouldn't I just claim it for my minutemen instead? Does the brotherhood gain anything tangible from this or am I just locking myself out of this settlement for nothing?
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>>124100228
The thumbnail looked like she was wearing a hijab/10
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>>124098975
THAT GUN IS ABSENT FROM A GAME WITH SYNTHS DISGUISED AS HUMANS
WITH A PSYCHOLOGICAL TEST TO DETERMINE HUMAN STATUS
WITH A JAPANESE NOODLE STAND WHERE THE ROBOT LITERALLY SAYS THE LINE FROM THE MOVIE

GODDAMNIT BETHESDA YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB
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>>124100218
>MOAR for the sake of MOAR!

Protip: Skyrim having less in it than Oblivion is a flaw. That's how it works.

Just like Fallout 4 having less guns than Fallout 3.
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>>124100228
underbite/10
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>>124100350

I'm guessing you didn't go to the FEV lab. That's like SCP Foundation-tier moral bankruptcy.
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Okay, see; the plot makes no sense to me. This would be "my way".

1. Do the first part of the game normally, growing the minutemen; looking for son. The usual.

2. Introduced to your gramps son. Over the next few missions, realize he's trying to white wash your view of the institute, but play it smart. Yes, some synths suffer; but hear me out. Keep contact with minutemen, let them know you're working on something.

3. Son reveals he is of teh dyeins [oh noes!] (Stupid fucking plot point I could see when he was introduced, what the Fuck, todd?), and names you as the next "Father". Okay, right. Son, you're as crazy as that nutjob who kidnapped you. We're bringing the reactor online, but I'm calling in some external help.

3. Bring in the minutemen, effectively lumping the two groups into one. While meanwhile introducing some minutemen into the council, acting as the restraint these scientists desperately need. Give some bs speech about what the institute used to be, the nature of man, and why synth production beyond gen1 is to be (at least, temporarily) halted.

4. Warn the BOS that while we're willing to be allies; that this is our turf, Fuck off. Minutemen with Gen1 synthetic squads, allowing better tactics and knowledge can fight better than TemplarNova(tm) from out of town.

This allows your son to learn a lesson, the above ground to benefit from the institute, and the institute to benefit as well.

>This isn't even an option, what the actual Fuck, todd? It just works, my ass.

Transplanted to this thread because "ME3-the 50's strike back" is not a good way to end your game.
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>>124100436
>Just like Fallout 4 having less guns than Fallout 3.
No fucking way.
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>>124100091
>more untouched pre-war locations
>more military shelters with different equipment and power armors
>more research places with unique weapons/armors

I dont mind the pacing desu, if you got the power armor 10 hours in you would still spend most of the game having access to it. More uniques would have made a significiant difference. Also uniques should look unique too...
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>>124100303
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>>124100403
So many rude anons.
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>>124098936
shut the fuck up and kill yourself tumblrfaggot
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>>124098234
I liked the skill checks a lot more, probably what I miss most from the older games, it gave the feeling that the main character had more personality because you could respond to things according to the skill set you chose for them. Now it feels rigid and like everything is going to be the same in every playthrough even if my character is a completely different person.
I also think the factions' stories could use a lot of work, I liked that in NV you could see and understand the implications of the choices you made and how it would affect things later on. Currently, everything just feels so inconsequential, but I'm hoping DLC will expand on the factions' stories.
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>>124099163
>adjustment bureau
what
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>>124097059
>you will never smell Nora's sweaty vault suit
Why even live?
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>>124100136
>it smells here
Indeed

>tfw Dr.Crocker killed himself
He was a pretty cool guy

>>124100089
Best girl

Bethesda should really "update" her at some point,make her a follower in some future DLC or som',its no fun without unique dialogue

>>124100228
Looks weird/10
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>>124100551
with what?
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>>124100541
>gives green text advice to fix her
>gets told I'm rude
unless you want to play a 60 year old menopause'd female I ahve bad news for you
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>>124100436
I would rather have a game with 10 guns that let me modify them to do all sort of thing the a game with 100 weapons were all are just incremental stat increases over the previous ones and theres only really like 10 guns you have any reason to use.

both are the same thing in the end. One just makes it more fun by letting you mod those 10 weapons in a variety of ways, rather then not allowing you to do so because they spent all their time making guns that don't mater.

Quality > quantity
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I went to Lancer-Captain Kells to report on Brandis and he told me I got a new suit. Where can I find it? It's not in the repair bay, could this be because I'm a Sentinel and I already got two BoS Power Armors?
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>>124097026

I did, but not for your probable edgelord reasons. With the resources of the Institute, Cabot's immortality serum could most likely be reproduced on a large scale and.... well, that's the good end to the entire universe.

And if SS doesn't take over the facility, one of the other batshit insane morally grey scientists will take up Shaun's place.
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>>124100140
>blue eyes
>blonde hair
>perfect face
yep, exactly what the germans wanted. Also being an invincible murdermachine who can think, he clearly fits the role.
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>>124100551
Why?
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Reminder to filter Nora and Piper posts
It saves you from the cancer
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>>124100543
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>>124100502

If you couldn't just tell, there's something wrong with you.
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>find ron staple
>send him to sanctuary
>he ends up in the shadow realm
Is there any fix for this? absolute bullshit i got fucked out of a special merchant because of a bug
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>>124100730
she never asked for this
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How do you set shit upright in this game?

Also, anyone have any good building mods yet? The default building materials and snapping sucks ass.
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>>124100551
Ratted you out for advertising your piss poor general in here.
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>>124100353
Piper says something along the lines of, "Be careful, Blue. Those drugs will really mess you up." pre addiction, and post addiction drug use has her say something like, "Blue...I really hate what those have done to you. Please...Just..." and then she stops there.
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>>124100730
>those clipping goggles
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Where's the cat-lady located with the house full of cats?
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>>124100850
>Piper deeply cares about you

Truly silver medal
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>>124100780
you're not alone
happened to two of my merchants as well, in a single playthrough
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>>124100805
pick it up in build mode.
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>tfw will never bareback anal daisy and die of super aids a week later
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>>124099729
Can you share starting build using this tool

Something like this?

http://www.nukahub.com/tools/special?build=69.4!!931.9.8
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>>124100091
You have a major problem with getting a less shitty pistol at the beginning? That's dumb as far as complaints about this game go
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>>124100540
Holy fuck yes there was so much bad design idea when it came to this map
There was a fucking BUNKER that was locked in the middle of fuck off nowhere glowing sea that had a pipe pistol in it that I never figured out why you need to turn on the reactor

I'm not talking about NOT giving you the PA until ten hours in, just how the game gives you /GOOD/ PA 5 minutes in and how the game allows you to find easily /BETTER/ PA without trouble in about half an hour.

I just don't understand this whole "PA IS SUPER FUCKING NUMEROUS GUYS" shit Bethesda pulled with Fo4, I can understand that the BOS is a literal walking piggy bank of PA but they dont show up until halfway through, and even then they're covered in fucking T-60 the magical "I said it's better because it is even though it's slightly different than T-45-Todd Howard" bullshit power armor
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>>124100932
im scared to find the scribe and send him to a settlement. losing a level 4 bar is tolerable, but losing a level 4 armor merchant would be fucking infuriating. i just want my legendary synth armor
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>>124100648

Too bad there's only like six fucking guns in Fallout 4 that have meaningful, distinct upgrades.

90% of them are only increased damage, stability, or range.

Also your argument is shit.

>I would rather quality over quantity
>both are the same in the end
>quality > quantity

And there is no quality in the guns of Fallout 4. The gunplay is fun, but the dichotomy of firearms and melee weapons is shallow as fuck.

I'd rather have three automatic rifles that look different than one I can 'upgrade'
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>>124100947
I'm gonna go kill myself for spending ~20 minutes throwing this thing up against a wall trying to get it upright.

Thanks and goodbye world.
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>>124100689
bj kills nazi scum
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>>123990523
Mods that give me this when?
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>>124101041
It's not a problem in and of its self but it's the mood the game sets, the hand holding, you get a 10mm pistol early on and ammo is abundant as a mother fucker, give me some pain bethesda come on.
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>>124096427
>people are still playing this abortion of an RPG
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>>124099184

tell me, why did Hitler write fanfiction for the master race when he himself bore none of their features and was a disgusting little brown eyed black haired manlet?
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>>124100689
>http://wolfenstein.wikia.com/wiki/William_Joseph_B.J._Blazkowicz

>is the protagonist in every Wolfenstein game, with the exception of Enemy Territory. He was an American secret agent who works for the OSA (Office of Secret Actions) and performs important missions in Europe killing Nazis.
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>>124099184
>nazi ideal stormfag fantasy
Ironically, he looks like BJ Blazkowicz
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>>124100485
I think everyone would have done things that way after their first playthrough.

BOS isnt as bad as some think, its the wasteland, a strong military-centered group is the only way to make big changes without actually wiping everyone out.

Also, gen2's are ok.
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>>124101170
Yes, he was designed to look like an ideal specimen according to the nazis due to the irony that he murders and despises nazis. Like a kick in the face.
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>>124101258

what are you playing, doctor superiority

probably not anything better, we're talking about the video games industry in 2015 after all
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>>124101258
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>>124101362
>Blazkowicz
>Doesnt look Polish at all

Polish men have potato face.
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>>124100662
Also how do I get one of those jackets the lancrs wear?
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>>124101304
He wasn't a manlet and his hair was brown; his eyes were also steel blue, it is actually noted that he looked very intimidating with those eyes. Not stormfag, btw.
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>>124101304
Even though manlets should all be exterminated, some of them recognize superiority.
Hitler was one of them.
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>>124101469
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>>124101356
>can't play Wolfenstein in Germany since it's censored and only available in german language

Haha wie wärs mit nein
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>>124101112
You would do well in MMORPgs where all high end armor has the same stats, but has different skins, and idiots go out and spend hundreds of hours collecting skins for no real reason beyond "MUH DRESS UP SIMULATOR!"
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>>124101471
I'm not sure if they kept up with his polish origins in TNO.
He wears an american flag in his uniform in the first mission, plus he struggles to speak Polish in the second one.

>>124101569
Why not pirate it?
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>>124100048
i couldn't get the nose thin like yours, to be quite honest familiar i would make the nose thinner and better cheekbones like your dude. im >>124099184
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>put some weapons I'm not using in the armory
>carefully position them on the shelf and lay them resting against it
>go work on weapon mods
>little miss French Robot runs in to give me a stimpak
>hear clanking noises
>this happened
Curie you ditz.
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>>124101026
>implying the ultra high levels of radiation hasn't completely destroyed all viruses and diseases in her body

She's probably the purest thing you can fuck in the wasteland besides Nora
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>>124101661
Polish heritage lad,not Polish national
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>>124101469
hello
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>>124101132
don't worry, you didn't miss anything, if you set junk items on furniture it just falls through it when you fast travel back, either by setting it there in build mode or otherwise
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>>124101496

>liberal or christfag white people are the most likely to be deluded into giving to a druggie with brand new $60 Adidas shoes on

color me surprised
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>>124101496
>no money in the Jewish bowl
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>>124101549
delete this, norafag
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>>124101496
>jewish
>only bowl that it's empty
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>>124101496
kek that empty bowl on the left

>>124101569
what the fuck are you smoking? go back to krautchan or learn proper English
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>>124101496
>no money in the jewish bowl
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>>124101496
Just wait for a vertibird to go down and nab it from the pilot's corpse.
Shouldn't take long, the things are about as tough as damp toiletpaper and the pilots are all drunk.
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>>124101768
Well that's incredibly disappointing.
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>>124101059
There isnt much difference in pa's thou, 45 is the cheapest one and the raider armors only exist to handicap them.
60 is barely better than 51 unless someone makes a mod that adds bullshit functions.
The pre-war story doesnt allow any more versions so basically they had to work with these 3.

The x01, however is a good starting point for something new. BOS should have them in very limited numbers so the t-60 would have that "not-the-best" vibe
And ofcourse game should have more advanced armors.
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>>124101758

Your dick won't feel too pure. Be glad I didn't post the Japanese reactor tech who fucked up and got a dose over his whole body so high he literally was a ghoul for the 60 days til he died.
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Any cool mods that arent on nexus top files?
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>>124101672
When you start making a character start from face 14(I think,the one with gray hair) its the base for mine,its easy from there
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If you don't care about building size and scrapping everything, is Covenant the most comfy settlement?
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>>124101036
This should get you started; you'll want to increase charisma if/when you want to get into settlement building, and personally I think Party Boy/Girl is worth it. Intelligence isn't great to start out, because you won't have the materials to make use of Science. But you're gonna want them eventually. Chem Resistant/Chemist work really well together. I also suggest getting Aqua Boy/Girl at some point, but you don't need it right away. There's just a lot of fucking water in the game.

http://www.nukahub.com/tools/special?build=75!15411.3!!5212619111121811
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