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Loyal servant of the Empire edition

>New DLC December 3.
http://www.vermintide.com/dlc-plans-2015/

>Official Site:
http://www.vermintide.com/

>Wiki:
http://vermintide.gamepedia.com/Vermintide_Wiki

>Tome/Grimoire Locations and Other Info:
http://www.vermintidedb.com/

>The Game:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/235540/

>The Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/whvtg

>Lore Stuff, Books, and Collector's Edition things:
https://mega.nz/#F!w0UERTga!d9uXX9ZnHATnuBGAFk38rg

>Previous Thread:
>>123228094
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Kruber is best vermin
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>>123680858
HOLY SIGMAR
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>>123680858
What do the tallies on his purity seal stand for?
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>>123681547
All of the witches he's purged.
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>>123680858
He looks better without his hat.
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how do i troll with an elf
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>>123682249
>tfw no-hat hat ever.
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>>123682457
Play really well.
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Anyone tried to ring the bell in Enemies below (that mine shaft map, forgot if its this or the other)? Does anything happen?
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>>123683498
Tried it, nothing happens.
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>get a trinket with deep pockets on it

is this it, lumberfoots? do i never need worry about medpacks again?
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>>123686856
The fish proc chance is higher and yet is qutie rare. It definitely happens at least twice per round tho.

Not that you should be healing that much but grab medpacks and heal retards and have it proc.

I personally tried "spamming" deep pockets by switching from tome to health and it's so fucking rare I'd rather this fucking fish right here.
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14th for legs day is best day
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>>123688978
that's actually way better. i haven't had much luck in the way of trinket rolls
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Trading fucking when
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>>123689338
>implying I'd give you my extra fish
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DED THREAD
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>>123689421
I want that fish.
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>bardin's hammer+shield
>2 AoE attacks, 1 shitty single target hit on 3rd attack
Why?
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>>123696076
Just do 2 normal hits and a shove like a normal person. Same deal for kruber's mace and shield.
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>>123696076
quality balance
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Why are the 1h hammer and mace supposed to be good again?
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>>123698094
Fucking christ, how do people not know how to edit out white space.
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>>123699326
it wasnt that, i was in the middle of a game and wanted to screencap it and post it on paint before it disappeared. I just had an image made earlier that was larger than that and forgot to realign it
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>>123699582
You know you can screenshot through Steam right? The hotkey is F12 I think. You can change it yourself.
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>>123699852
Not him but I didn't know that. That's useful as fuck.
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>>123698017
You trade a bit of knockback for damage, speed and versatility. Possibly the best melee weapon type in the game, good balance of AoE, single target, speed and crowd control.
The alternatives are worse in most ways to specialize in one aspect, eg. 2h hammer for more AoE and knockback, shields if you want to play on a higher difficulty than you can handle and just want to survive while your team plays the game.
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>>123702656

Shields are a must for cata though.
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>>123702656
>just want to survive while your team plays the game.
nice bait
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>>123703225
Nice meme.
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fucking shit

it took me weeks to realize that connoiseur requires an orange helmet to trigger

and I have all these elf terrorist balaclavas lying around
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So why doesn't the aoe heal trinket work sometimes? Is it bugged? The only way I get it to work is by unequiping and requiping it
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damn the longbow is hard to use

would zoom make it less difficult?
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aww

and game ded now

3rd Dec can't come soon enough

http://steamcharts.com/app/235540
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>level 130
>bored af
>still play for the odd chance of getting that orange revive people trinket
Updates when, more content when.


What kind of content could this even get? I mean the story is complete with the main game. Another campaing?
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>>123713098
Perfect time to cheat farm.
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Is the fire sword complete shit? It takes me 3 charged hits to kill clans on Cata while the sword needs only 2 and heads fly all over the place.

>Sword
Earthing rune(charged), Berserking, Improved pommel.

>Flaming sword
Earthing rune(normal), Perfect balance, Dev blow.

I imagine that if the charged one was in the flaming sword then it would be decent.
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>>123714961
Well there's going to be an update Dec 3rd. I know that it will include a bunch of changes to the loot system, but I can't remember what else.

After the December update the devs have announced they plan to add a bunch of new game modes, and it's speculated that they will be adding new hero's as well as a new campaign sometime down the line.
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>>123716318
rolling stats is what seems to be decent in that update
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Why do I have such a furious hardon for rapiers? I don't know where it all began but it was surely strengthen with Dark Souls.
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>>123716920
It's like the most unique melee weapon in the game in terms of play style.
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Tell me why a masterwork repeater handgun isn't better than a brace of pistols
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>>123719050
Because it doesn't have arpen. Because no reload is better than faster reload. Because Brace is more accurate and deals more damage faster.

Are we done yet?
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>>123719321
What? of course the repeater handgun has arpen. It also definitely seems more accurate than the pistols

I suppose the pistols might do more burst damage, but by how much I'm not sure
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>>123719050
Because the brace is better in just about every way.
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>>123718097
That has nothing to do with my question.

I guess I see them as noble, exquisite and graceful.

For the record I fucking katanas with a burning pasion. All of them, the tachi, the ushigatana, the nagitana, the wakizaki and so on. I know I didn't get the names right but they are recognizable enough.
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>>123720095
You ain't too good at reading are you?
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>>123720141
what the shit wrong image

I also said I fucking HATE katanas, all of them in every form and shape.
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>>123720171
Masterwork is faster reload right? If so, it's still shit compared to the brace.
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>>123720438
h-a-n-d-g-u-n
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>>123720141
>noble, exquisite and graceful
It's a fucking sharp stick used to kill things you ponce.
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>>123720495
Oh, my fault.

As someone who owns guns, handgun and pistol are pretty much interchangeable in my head. I forgot the soldier's was called the handgun as opposed to the WH's pistol. It made more sense in my head that we were comparing WH weapons.
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>>123720141
>I fucking katanas
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Save her!
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>join normal because why not
>2 bots 1 level 74 Saltz with Flamberge and orange brace.
>ok this should be a blast
>the guy seems completely lost and doesn't speak a word
>is oblivious to voice and chat suggestions
>gets destroyed one to many times
>we reach the Kislevite bitch
>game ends
>roll an 8, blue confalg staff(blue ores ftw)

I wonder what the hell was that. I like to think it was somebody who let his retarded son playing the game or something.
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>>123725282
Look at that ass anon. She's imploring disgusting smelly furry cum all over it.
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>>123725892
>roll an 8
>playing on normal
m8...
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>>123726143
I had the 5 grims on and we got 1 dice, so the las 2 numbers were pure luck.
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>>123726279
He means you rolled a 7 because there aren't 8 dice.
Also
>5 grims
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Why do some people pronounce tomes as "tombs"? Are they just retarded or is it some regional thing?
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why pubbies keep playing hard mode when they are new ?

and why the hosts are always elves ?
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>>123727792
>join hard S&D for shits and giggles
>elf host is level 3
It's kind of fun feeling like a god among mortals and cleaving through hordes carelessly though. Good break from NM.
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Does friendly fire actually do a lot of dmg on nightmare?

>Have an orange blunderbuss, don't have anything better so i guess ill use it.
>shoot it during a horde, graze the elf once or twice
>she's still at 75% hp
>2 of the party vote to kick me, but its stalemated
>later on take on a rat ogre
>I'm at white health
>someone chucks a bomb, teamwhipes
>clearly you had the superior aim
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>join game
>hold block during load so I'm blocking when I actually join and don't get gangbanged before I can get my bearings
>see this
Kruber confirmed for chaos worshiper?
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>>123729430
Taking a full blast of a blunderbuss does quite a bit of team damage but otherwise, no single hits do like 1% health damage.

Bombs are fucking horrifying though, they can potentially wipe teams, rarely.
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>>123729430
Depends on the weapon. Things that can set you on fire=bad, as is poison and bombs. I think the shotguns also hurt a bit more than normal.

Hagbane is by far the worst though, one shot and you lose one little bar segment of your health which is an entire 25% of your health with grims. If you see someone with hagbane on NM or Cata just leave.

Also a blue handgun works fine on NM if you have it, doesn't need to be orange. The only things that don't die to 1 bodyshot are storms and gasrats which both can be killed with 1 HS or 2 bodyshots. Don't be one of those people who disregards things as viable options just because it's not orange.
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>>123716278
It's good for crowd control but I don't find it useful for anything else. I've started using 1h mace myself, though I can get surrounded by swarms pretty easily now.
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Why are people in SUCH A FUCKING RUSH? I keep running into people who don't stop for anything; they don't take the five seconds needed to go open that chest and get those useful consumables. They run way the hell ahead, and get the team killed when we are all strung out and a horde spawns. Mr. Speedy Pants gets mad at the guy in the rear when he is slowing down because he is being hit from behind, but Mr. Speedy Pants can't be bothered to help Mr. Rear fight off the horde trailing him... I guess that would take too much time. Mr. Speedy Pants gets pissed off when the guy in the rear hides for 10 seconds to avoid getting shot up by a ratling gun, but Mr. Speedy Pants ran way the hell ahead and can't be bothered to go back and help people who are pinned down; he just yells at them.

Slow the fuck down you fucking faggots; the best way to do a quick run is to support your damn team. If you stick together, you can kill rats far more effectively, clearing the way for everyone to move forward.
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how many times do i have to farm horn of magnus with loser pubs before i can roll some drakefire pistols?

or are they tied to a certain difficulty?
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>>123734838
Just random.
rolled my first set in 140 hours of play while replying to this. Spooky.
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>>123731607
Holy shit, and the Speedy Gonzales fuckers always say shit like:

>"omg why my team away from me wtf"

And then completely fail to see the irony in that shit.
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>>123731607
Best way is actually to rush and bug the AI. I'll grant you it isn't fun, but it is the best. So, now you know why.
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>>123727563
>on normal

You share this general with that shitter
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>join Nightmare Horn of Magnus
>elf host
>inn has the appearance of a level 1 inn; no banners, no lights, no green in the window, etc.
>level 118
????
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>>123738378
CE
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>>123738378

Lots of HoM runs.
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>>123738378
>lights
>green in the window

What?
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>>123737869
And most likely many more. Doesn't bother me, I play with shitters all day.
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This new update looks pretty nice actually. However they better fucking put out some good support for this game after it sold so much.
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>>123738654
They should realize there's a good market for DLC if the update causes a decent playerbase spike. Basically tells them people are still interested but want to see new content pumped out.

Warrior Priest when
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>>123738517
As you progress through the campaign you get more lights, a door opens near the bar, and there's a bunch of green light from Morrslieb coming in through the window.
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>>123738517
As you complete and unlock new missions, the inn will get more candles, things like explosions can be heard outside, justMorrsliebcomesandgoeswiththeseasons starts shining through the window, and the music changes.
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>>123739389
>>123739445
Huh, cool.
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>>123702656

Are 1h axes shit?
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>>123683498

It spawned an ambush when I did it.
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>>123688978

That trinket only works when you first pick up an item, so no spamming deep pockets.
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>>123729674
Definetly.

He even m u r d e r e d his whole regiment with one of those soul sucking void orb magic things.
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>>123748698
For which class?
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>>123748698
They're fine if paired with a shield on a dorf. If you bring one as a WH though you should jump off a tall bridge. Anyone who defends that trash tier weapon is baiting.
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>>123737676
That only really works if the whole team is working together to do that. I doubt most people who so it in pub games are even aware of it.

Basically the pace of the group is set by the two slowest members. I find that groups wipe rarely due to attrition unless it's stuff like wheat and chaff. More often than not it's some spectacular clusterfuck see: packmaster that takes the group all at once anyway.
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>>123739152

Hard to do a good warrior priest because

A.) You've already got two classes with 1hand/2hand hammers/maces, so you risk feeling repetitive with weapons.

B.) Healing would trivialize medical supplies, while buffs would trivialize potions.

C.) Even supposing you balance healing/buffs against items, you run the risk of 'needing' to have the only Support class to manage higher-end content.

The best I can see them doing for Warrior Priest is maybe something like the Bright Wizard, with a series of Tome secondary weapons offering various Smite Evil-themed spells. Blind a Rat Ogre with holy light. Maybe get some AoE field effects, like consecrating a circle to slow vermin or something.
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>>123755927
>risk feeling repetitive with weapons
Sure didn't stop them so far. Really a lot of what's reasonable story wise is going to be similar to what we already have. For melee there's what, halberds and flails left? Both of which a Warrior Priest could conceivably have but that's not the point

And to be fair you already kind of do need certain classes/loadouts for high end content. Having a soldier/dorf with a handgun on NM/Cata is almost mandetory, as is a shield or at least someone good enough to keep the rats off his team for extended durations without one.

Really all it comes down to is implementing the spells in a balanced way. They've proven with BW they can make things that sound OP as fuck on paper turn out underwhelming to downright useless.

It'd actually be pretty easy to balance something like buffs or healing. Intentionally make it as downright useless as possible from the start and just keep tweaking it from there until it feels OK to use.
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>>123755927
>>123756717
The biggest problem with a warrior priest is that he has no viable ranged option, and they've clearly gone hard on the idea that every class gets a missile weapon
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>>123757252
You just balance it out with defensive or buff options in place of ranged ones. Probably options that don't reset at ammo boxes.
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So it's basically L4D with some RPG-like elements and no versus mode?
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>>123762171
Sort of. It's a good game. Having a blast and I can say it's one of the good purchases this year. If you can get it for around 20 quid, go for it.
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>>123762506
I don't know if I should trust the words of a bear.
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>>123762171
there are no rpg like elements
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>>123762640
That bear's pretty much right. It's L4D with better atmosphere and bantz, with a loot progression system. The loot thing is pretty random and frustrating right now, but they're rejigging it in a few days
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>>123757252
They could just give him a bible with which he shoots bolts
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>>123762640
He's pretty much right.
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>>123755927
I like the idea of secondary books doing different things like the BW staves. That sounds pretty cool.
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>tfw you will never be a runt slave rat
>tfw you will never get picked on and gangbanged by a pack of Stormvermin
>tfw you will never be used like a cheap fucktoy for hours on end until you pass out
>tfw you will never wake up covered in rat jizz and piss, your abused asshole still leaking juices
Although playing White Rat on Nightmare sort of works like this as well.
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>>123769323
Anonymous please, the stormvermin are saving themselves for elves.
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Level 37 and I do not have a single trinket yet. 7 levels ago the game rubbed it in my face by flashing some Trinkaholic achievement.

Am I missing a trick or is it just dumb luck?
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>>123771490
Dumb luck. I have 3 at level 25.
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Does drakefire pistol do friendly fire damage on the charged shot? Seems like beamstaff primary fire which doesn't do FF.
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Post your horde face.
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>>123778414
I can't trust anyone else but me to watch the flanks.
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What if they made it so that the special button had different moves for a certain weapon? I think it would certainly make all weapons viable if they had aoe control and single target capabilities.
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HOL-HOL UP
*plagues brettonian*
SO YOU
*hails skavenblight*
YOU SAY TO ME
*stab-stabs man-thing*
THAT WE
*applies skalm*
WE SKAVEN
*spawns in front of you*
WE WUZ GREY SEERS N' SHIT-SHIT?
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>>123775194
>Seems like beamstaff primary fire which doesn't do FF
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ok I got the hang of the 1h hammer and I can see why it is good. I can't seem to make it worth in cata tho.

Is the mace the same thing? Don't have a single one.
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>A great Saltzpyre of scorched and broken Skaven bodies, burning in the night.
Bots are fucking superb btw. As long as you keep things of off their backs they'll clear hordes without taking a drop of damage. And the fact you all share trinkets makes it that much better. Or maybe you could strategically distribute trinkets but that would work only if you could give them commands. Which on its own would be excellent, some M&B tier things like "hold here", "follow me", "fall back", "advance" and shit.
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>>123785209
I fucked up
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What the fuck.

So if a weapon trait says: 20-40% chance to wathever.

This means that the moment you acquire that in the forge it will "roll" between 20 and 40 and give you a result? Holy shit.
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>>123786563
Basically, but we're going to be able to reroll traits when the first free DLC hits.
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>>123786740
That's been confirmed? That's great news, I was hoping for it.
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>>123786740
Oh god so that's what re roll stands for.

I thought it meant that you could "roll" between all traits until you got the one you wanted.

In example, say you don't want Savenger and thus you rolled for a chacne at Mastercrafted.

Welp, at least farming will have meaning again.
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After all this Cata playing NM feels like babby mode.

I don't want to get used to actually killing things with a few hits.
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>>123787000
That may be what it means. Frankly I'm not 100% sure on it. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Does Kruber's 2h hammer not have a massive AoE sweep as it's secondary? Came across someone using it as him whose response to a massive horde was to bop them individually on the head until getting eviscerated.

Don't have one of my own yet to find out.
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>>123791246
It does have a big sweep as the charge attack. That other person sounds retarded.
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>>123791246
it does, the bop is normal attack
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I want more variants of the orange weapons.
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>healing scum
>heal trinket procs
>heal another fag
>heal trinket procs yet again
>heal myself
>it doesn't proc
It was a good feeling.

If you have that trinket I'd encourage you to hog the medkits.
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>>123786740
>>123786816
>>123787000
>>123787281
They said both the option to reroll traits into something different and change values will be coming sometime after this first DLC, but not with it. I'm curious how that will work with red weapons with their supposed preset traits.
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>>123791246
it's probably the best aoe in the game, not only has a large effect and good damage, but stuns/knocks back a huge amount
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>join game in progress
>take 1 down
>"alright I still have another down before I have to heal"
>die instead
every time

there really needs to be some visual representation of this shit, or else it should reset when you join in
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>>123792217
go back to /pdg/ hoxfag
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>>123791993
Any news to what they're going to "do" to the haxors?
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I hope red weapon traits require a conjuction of all 3 ores to unlock.

Otherwise what the fuck am I to do with white and green ores?
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>>123792724
Someone already posted that their items and progress got wiped. Don't think he provided any proof though.
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>>123793139
Oh? That was a very clever and decent bait.

He only said "All my items I got through CE where wiped" implying that what he got legit stood there.
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>>123793251
Well anyway, that's all we got to go on. No clue if shits actually going to go down or not.
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>>123792217
you only get 1 fuckup, your hp goes white you blind fuck
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"Ok guys one at a time, who's going first?"
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>>123792217
>there really needs to be some visual representation of this shit

It's called "pay attention to what difficulty you're joining."
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>>123792217
Stop playing below Nightmare then. Also you must be blind because even with 2 downs on hard and below your screen edges start to go red when you get low on your final down.
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>>123794715
huh I thought that was just when you go low on any down
>>123794620
>>123794505
I usually play nightmare but there was literally only 1 (full) lobby for it near me at that time
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>>123794601
I love how much thought they put into the skaven AI.
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>>123762171

>and no versus mode?

That's the best thing about the game.
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>>123794601
>"waiting for black friday in ubersreik"
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>>123796268
They confirmed that they'll add versus mode at some point.
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>>123785209

Bots can do brilliantly against Rat ogres too; they can take the thing down without taking a spot of damage because they always block with lightning reflexes.

This is find is balanced by their sheer incompetence when taking on any of the other specials. Especially Ratling Guns. I've had solo runs just fail because one Ratling Gun has all three bots completely pinned down whilst I'm dangling from a Packmaster half a map away.
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>>123796658
>>123785209
bots are really good at certain things but on the whole I really hate them

I've had bots backtrack 5 stories of the mage tower to go kill a single ratling gunner and attract 2 hordes while they do so
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>>123785209
>>123796658
My only real issue with bots is their priorities at times. I've had moments where they absolutely needed to clear out every last rat rather than pick up a downed person.
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>>123796862
Those happen, yeah. But in light of the moments I had before the last patch, where they would stand around my body doing absoultely nothing while I bled to death...
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>>123799210
That's cute as fuck. Is there more?
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>>123796574
Pretty sure they only said they'd consider it. If they do, prepare to have just about every weapon and trinket nerfed for the sake of balance.
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>>123800057
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>>123800057
>>123800275
Reminder to play the fuck out of the game before that happens so that you can happily drop it when versus mode is finally implemented and never look back.
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>>123800057
it would be easier to simply disable trinkets and traits entirely for versus mode
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>>123800275
Why does everything I like have to turn to shit

Fuck those wankers asking for that shit gamemode and fuck Fatshark for listening to them
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>>123801268
Yeah but at the very least they'll nerf every sniping weapon capable of 1-shotting specials because people will bitch and moan about being instakilled while playing rats.
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>>123801451
It's probably going to be quite a while before that's implemented. I'm just kinda curious how it would turn out.
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>>123800275
CRASHING THIS GAME
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>>123801937
WITH THE ONLY SURVIVORS BEING RUSSIANS AND SOME SHIT-TASTE TEENAGERS

Seriously. L4D versus was/is populated by the most cancerous playerbase I've ever met in any game ever. Jesus.
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>>123801778
also easier to just give specials more hp in versus mode.

you could kill any special in l4d with 2 shots from a hunting rifle. there are ways of balancing the versus mode without destroying the coop experience the game was tailored to. you just have to hope fatshark has this in mind if/when versus gets implemented.
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>>123802259
I was going to respond that there's no way that this could attract as many autistic retards as zombies but then I remembered that this is Warhammer. It's a lot more of a possibility than I had hoped.
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>>123799210
cancerous
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>>123802604
Actually I dont think that the groups overlap as much as you're thinking.
Autism is certainly a part of those fuckos who play versus, but there's definitely large quantities of extremely shitty taste and being poor.

And Warhammer Fantasy doesn't attract poor people, that's the saving grace.

But there will always be mouthbreathers who want to play versus, so at the point when it is added it'll be time to abandon this game, since Fatshark will listen to them and them only.
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DID I EVER TELL YOU ABOUT MY COUSIN OKRI?
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>>123803193
A lot of people will play it regardless of the setting. Before vermintide my understanding of Fantasy was pretty much "that thing they put into space to make 40k". I only bought it because it looked like a fun co-op game. Be prepared for l4d vs fags to migrate in force with the same logic. Hell a lot of them are already here jusging by how many people keep begging for versus.
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>>123804004
Literally the southern guy and his friend Keith.
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>Just a couple more days before the DLC
I know it won't be much, but I'm still so happy.
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So I was curious about how cost effective the PCs are in this game and got my answer;

>>>/tg/43897604

Now the last question is why can't anyone else in the whole of Reikland do their job properly?
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>>123809356
Because video games.
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>>123809356
>packmasters with the smallest point collective cost
FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS THEM THAT DESTROY AN ENTIRE TEAM
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>>123810123
The right rat in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.
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>>123809356
>storms only cost 7 points
Holy Sigmar how horrifying
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>>123809356
>Chieftains
Are those the non-patrol storms or something?
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>>123810814
Yup. The commanders.
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>>123800473
>>123801451
>>123801937
Why does /vtg/ meme against Versus?

Is it just the cancerous playerbase?
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>>123811541
The playerbase and the inevitable balancing of the game for versus which will make it either laughably easy or impossibly hard against AI.
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>>123811541
That and the balance implications. I also really hate to see them put resources into an entire new mode that I know I personally will never touch.
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My first run on hard, my first pair of sword and dagger. Did I do good?
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>>123812207
>elf weapon
The answer is no. Literally only good for orange salvage on the 3rd.
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>>123812207
You can get a pretty orange crystal out of it in a few days.
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>>123812207
Looks good. Bloodlust and Devastating Blow are pretty nice.
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>>123811541
I don't hate it, but I doubt it will have any of the charm the normal game has. There's too many procs you'll have to nerf in order to make it not grind2win shit, and you can't really capture the magic of having a player-controlled gutter runner fly to the moon.

That said, I would dig the chance to play a PC-stormvermin squad.
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How would more characters work? Will they share bunkbeds similar to what Bardin has for ale/beer kegs?

Will there be taverns to choose from? Or will they not give a shit about it and just have them spawn on whichever room?

Also. That boarded up room. At first I imagined it led to a storage room but after thinking I assume it is related to one of the sewer missions so it can't be used either.
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>>123813871
In case you didn't notice, the rooms actually change depending on what characters are being played. Same thing will happen.
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>pub Morr cata
>run going well
>dumbass picks up second grim
>another aggos a stuck stormvermin pack before we are ready
>die

I'm never getting this done
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>>123813976
Correct. And every room belongs to a character. So the question is: If more characters were to be added, will more rooms also be necessary?
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>>123814280
No, you misunderstand. The rooms will actually move around as well. There's four rooms slots and depending on what order the heroes are picked in, the rooms get shuffled around.
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>>123814629
huh really

I was sure that as bardin, with pubs, friends and solo I was always spawning right in front of the broken handrail.
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>>123814923
...you are. Because your game has a dwarf, that room spawns. If you weren't there, it'd be the missing character's room. Which part of this aren't you getting? Picrelated?
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>>123816470
He's talking about the rooms moving around. The Dwarf room will always be there if there's a Dwarf, but not necessarily in the same spot. The room being in the same spot is what he finds weird.
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>dwarf player shoots Kruber with handgun
>"That looks like it hurts, sergeant!"
this cheeky fucker
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>>123814923
The room position is determined by the game considering you Player 1, Player 2, Player 3 etc.
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I'm level 42 and I haven't found a single pair of drake pistols
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>>123818160
I'm level 90 and I haven't found a single pair of drake pistols.
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>>123818257
I'm level 102 and haven't found a hat yet.
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>>123817391
I've heard the WH yell at the elf so many times for friendly fire.
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>>123822553
How do you even FF as the elf?
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>>123825626

By playing as the elf
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>>123818514
>>123818257
>>123818160
I wish I had a decent pair of
drakes(targeteer, heat build up, mastercrafted)
and a decent handgun(mastercrafted, ammunition holder, penetration).
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>>123826186
What the fuck is wrong with your aspect ratio? Please tell me you just squished the image.
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>>123812207
The effectiveness of fast weapons like SnD and rapier would be greatly enhanced by chance to kill on hit with the standard devastating blow and extra stamina.
Honestly it doesn't have that great traits.
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>>123827448
Well, come dec 3rd I can maybe do something about that.
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.

"Fuego" stands for fire in Mexican.
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>>123826186

Master crafted is completely useless on drakes, the primary attack is shit even with targeteer and master crafted. Since you will be spamming the shotgun which has a knockback, the faster attack speed is largely useless and the reduction on heat is better.
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>>123828047
I use the normal attack a lot to snipe things on cata. With the current green thing I can also get health back often.

You can stunlock storms and rattlinguns as if it was a confalg/fireball staff lmb.
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>>123699582
Literally all you do is paste and hit the crop button.
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>run into a corner of the underground map on Enemy Below
>kruber says "I know this place, it's a dead end!"

I got a feeling all this elf-hate is a false flag by soldier turncoats. The skaven have to have someone on the inside, or else how would you explain why the rats ALWAYS know where you are?
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JUST A DAILY REMINDER
that if ANY

AND I MEAN ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY fucking one below level 20 tries joining the party on hard you should autoboot them. Not even fucking joking.

It's the fith fucking time in a row where some dumbtard level 11 or 9 joined and he fucked everything up by running past the bench.

Christ
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>>123832419
Maybe try helping them by giving advice instead of sperging out like a neckbeard over the fact that not everyone is born with your level of autistic knowledge of every tiny facet of the game
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What does 50% luck do?
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>>123833189
50% chance to spawn the hidden Leprechaun boss after you kill the White Rat on Cata
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>>123832419
How does the bench thing even work? I've had people tell the group to stay behind it but someone has always went beyond the bench so I'm not sure if it's enough to just stay behind or what.
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>>123832419
>can't handle Horn on HARD
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>>123833401
It's not some sort of trick. It's just that all the spawns for rats are at the bench or in front of it, so you won't get flanked if you stay behind it.
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>>123833474
I handle it just fine. It's fucking low levels who are fucking tards who can't
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>>123833291

so nobody knows then

weapon procs read the same and still getting blues in dice roll
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>>123833518
Ah alright, I saw some webm where the rats went full retard with AI so I thought maybe that was what was actually supposed to happen.
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>>123833587
>can't carry people through hard horn
>calling others shitters
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>>123833756
>tard jumps down
>Doesn't block against Stormskaven
>Hogs up the meds
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how do we cancel the vermintide?
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>>123832419

>lvl 12 attracts patrol on hardhorn
>lvl 12, 20+, 20+ ditch and leave me to solo
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>>123833913
You don't. The lore is set in stone. Age of fucking Shitmar happens no matter what we do.
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>>123725892
>thinking level means jack shit
>roll an 8
>getting excited about blue shit
>normal

Good god I think your post gave me cancer of the casual variety.
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>guy talking about WH games
>saying there's been a heap of bad ones so it's surprising this one's good

There are so many things wrong with that statement it hurts.
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>>123755927
>warrior pirest
>Healing

Obviously you haven't seen a Warhams warrior priest. They're more about buffs than heals.
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>>123785209
>don't pick up tomes
>don't pick up grims
>only occasionally will pick up medkits, pots or bombs
>if you go down they have like an 80% chance of tarding out and not helping you back up

The bots are shit.
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>>123794601
I played with a guy who, when he hosts, the AI just goes fucking full retard mode for. Anything spawned in at the start of the map loading is free to move as it pleases, but anything spawning in later will move a bit (so like climb over a fence, or jump down a level) and then stop moving. Made it actually pretty hard (on Cataclysm of course), because if too much spawned it would all lag and you'd run into a crowd of Skaven standing around by accident, or sometimes a Skaven or two would unlock from their invisible bindings and just bumrush you. Still, the finale for Horn of Magnus was super easy.
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>>123811541
I think it'd be fun
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>>123841579
Good morning Victor. Time for a coffee before work.
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>>123841579
>holy sigmar why do you forsake me to commute with these non-believers
>it smells like warpstone in here
>this briefcase is too heavy
>I wish I was on the streets shooting ratmen
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>>123762854
It has more RPG elements than Fallout Effect 4
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>>123814262
>trying to get every map done on Nightmare
>whenever I get a more unfavourable map it's always with incompetent players
>the competent players just keep grinding Horn of Magnus for gear
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>>123825626
>spam arrows
>hurr how did I hit you?

Elf players are the worst I swear.
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>>123843094
Actually got morr done with a different group.

Just supply and demand and well watch to go
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>>123843256
You lucky fucker, I've got a good 5 maps to do including fucking Wheat and Chaff and The White Rat. I'm never going to get these done.
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>>123834220
Come on now, AoS really isn't that bad. The worst part of it is how they Squatted Kislev, but the whole idea of constantly new scenarios and shit, an evolving, ever-moving general plot to the world is cool as shit. Also, being able to field whatever you want.
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>>123843256
I'll do Well Watch with you if you want. It's easy.
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>>123729430
There is one weapon I urge complete and utter caution using, and it is the beam staff. The damage-over-time of setting a teammate on fire with the beam is deadly. On Cataclysm, it can take off nearly 1/7th or more of your total health when it's all said and done. Nightmare is a little less, but it's still very prevalent.

Be careful.
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>>123843783
I can probably do it another day since I'm beat from tonight.

With a good group it seems like you just camp in a spot and use the breaks to quickly look for supplies. Then defend the second well when it is being attacked.
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>>123843581
Having no Points system or balancing factor at all instantly makes it garbage as a game system.
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>>123843813
>There is one weapon
>Not the hagbane
Elf-shitter apologist detected
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>>123844062
I never said the Hagbane wasn't dangerous to teammates. If you re-read, I said that there is one weapon that I urge you caution while using.

I don't suggest using the Hagbane. Ever. If you really want that poison effect, go for the flask or whatever. It's good shit.
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>>123844407
Speaking of the flask, how often does the beam staff tick? Is it in the region of 5 chances for on-hit effects to proc a second?

I'd test but a beam staff has yet to drop for me, not even a white one.
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>>123844569
Beam staff procs orange flask pretty often. 6% chance on hit * 5 roughly translates to a good 30% chance to guarantee a kill on whatever you hit each shotgun shot. If you're lucky and have 15% chance for multishot on your staff (and I'm lucky), that chance increases.

I don't know if I would 100% recommend it over other trinkets (ex: the group healing, healing yourself, not being interrupted with revives, etc) but if you're shy on trinkets I'd highly recommend it for a moderately lucky chance. It pretty much guarantees stormvermin kills with a single hit and does insane damage to the Ogre if you manage to hit it with poison.
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>>123844897
Sounds great. Where can I purchase one?
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>>123844036
But that's wrong you bumbling retard. I used to run an EotE game, a PnP RPG which has no way to balance NPCs via points or anything, and I still managed to make fair and challenging fights. Instantly dismissing it for not having points is just immature.
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