9 hours until Stellaris release!
Let's make space great again!
literally who
Soundtrack is already out if you care about that stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ9J38UU4BY&index=17&list=PLMLFOdnxoUGasq1pD_7isUSVF78vPwEXB
Redpill me on this game, /v/.
HAHAHAHA!!!!
Allow me to open this thread properly by presenting a naive fool.
HAHAHAHA!!!
May the fool be witnessed >>336990551
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
>>336990925
Paradox LITERALLY withholds easily-implemented features in order to pump out $15 DLC every 4 to 5 months.
>>336990925
It's like distant worlds, but actually good
>>336991026
This. Please stop buying their games.
The wait is short if you sleep now
>>336990925
>be race that is only different by some stats and a picture from others
>be on planet
>grow too much
>colonize new planet
>GSG in space
>get bored after you've done everything
>pay 15$ for DLC that add little content every 3-4 month
>Pay 100-200 Dollar for a game you played 20 hours
>....
>profit
Will keep me busy until HOI4. Hopefully they didn't fuck that up.
Hopefully we finally get Vicky III with the support it deserves.
>>336990925
>Redpill me on this game, /v/.
You pirate it.
You wait and see if Paradox goes full-jew with DLC (as they always do)
If they do? Congrats you saved money.
If they don't? Maybe they are not shit anymore - feel free to buy the game and support them.
First for furries.
http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=23339&game=Stellaris
Suffering
>>336991091
Fungoid rollin.
Last numbers deciedes.
If the there is a 1 before the last number it counts too except the last number goes above 5.
THEY SEE ME ROLLIN
>>336991253
Two options:
1) No DLC, but Paradox essentially abandons the game.
2) DLC
You can't win with those fucks. They're lucky no one has stolen their ideas.
>>336991253
pretty much this, i could easly buy it, but i know paradox and i know thye will try to literally steal from me, so im just gonna pirate. im sure they would get more money if they'd change their tactics
>>336991312
>12
noice
>>336990757
Why no countdown...what faggotry...
Also, from the gameplay videos its obvious the game mechanics are clunky as shit...
Like the whole exploration fatal failure crap where everyone has to simply level up their explorer till the failure rate is super low on any anomaly they want to try..
No choice since risking the explorer is way too dangerous especially if he is leveled up..
Also, all races feel the same..You dont look or are organized in a different manner, just changes in stats..
No unique gameplay, game plays like you were playing with different civilizations on earth as oppose to alien life forms.
Game has no soul. And combat, as usual is simplistic as fuck.
No ability to choose strategy or assign commanders to speciality ships or divide your fleet into squads with commander that use different tactics...
Inventions have no character, just tiny icons. Compare that to Moo2, that game had a soul cause many stuff had cool visual representations.
In this game we have to invent the game's soul ourselves ala blorg friendly empire nonesense, cause the game is tabula rasa when it comes to characterization and lore.
>>336991423
That's because the game was literally pumped out in like 14 months lol, and they didn't have better games in the past to draw and improve upon.
>>336991091
wow these look retarded
>>336991276
I built this computer 4 or 5 years ago with money I made working at McDonald's.
The CPU is overclocked to 4.4GHz, btw.
>>336991253
>(as they always do)
I'VE NEVER SEEN JEWERY LIKE THIS BEFORE
looks boring
>>336990915
just another shitty pc game that will be forgotten on 2 days
>>336991423
all of this
>>336991423
>Moo2
What is this very interesting thing?
>>336990915
>>336990915
>>336990915
OH MY GOSH IT SOUNDS LIKE INTERSTELLAR AND 80S SYNTH IM IN SOUNDTRACK HEAVEN
>>336991686
>sonycuck this mad
>>336991574
lel that's like 150 real Dollars.
>>336991253
Is that a brown elf I see?
Sauce? Google isn't showing me anything, presumably because of the shooped hat.
>>336991423
>In this game we have to invent the game's soul ourselves ala blorg friendly empire nonesense, cause the game is tabula rasa when it comes to characterization and lore.
they've explained that is the point of the game since day 1 though?
>>336992007
>He didn't recognize glorious nipponjin demon blade folded over 3 million times
laughinggiantrobot.jpg
>>336990915
>when it hits the 2 minute mark
goddamn son, I approve
>>336991423
>In this game we have to invent the game's soul ourselves ala blorg friendly empire nonesense, cause the game is tabula rasa when it comes to characterization and lore.
That's all paradox games you nonce
I can't wait seeing all the crying children here after game release.
What a waste of time and money.
What are improvements or differences in this game over Distant Worlds?
>>336991091
They look cool but are there seriously only 1 human portrait or is it just choosing the general style? I'm postive there will be a $3.00 DLCs for portraits down the line though.
>>336992357
Massive amount of DLC and broken features and bugged release
>>336992376
You choose race
After that you choose your subrace/phenotype and sex, and other unimportant shit
>>336992376
You can customise it, those are just the type yes. But your first leader will die at some point.
>>336992357
Distant Worlds to this is like total war to the ck and eu, too shallow and boring
>>336992729
Can you elaborate?
>>336992841
Sure I can, but I don't want to write long post
>>336991247
>vicky3
Be careful with what you wish for.
Can you imagine EU4 style vicky?
>>336992946
Why? Aren't you excited for Liberal and Conservative mana?
>>336992937
Please do.
Stellaris looks pretty shitty so far.
>>336992946
>>336993016
EU3 had mana too, like colonists/spies/diplomats/traders
You have 10 seconds to explain why vici2 didn't had any mana shit, but vici3 will
>>336993181
HoI2 and HoI3 didn't have mana, but HoI4 does.
>>336992502
This is pretty underrated post.
9/10
>>336993181
>EU3 had mana too, like colonists/spies/diplomats/traders
Don't be fucking stupid.
>>336993348
>Don't be fucking stupid.
Are you retarded?
>>336992224
Are you literally calling the entire history of the human race tabula rasa? Fucking what?
>>336993405
Nope. But you definitely are if you think traders/dip/etc. equal Mana in EU 3.
>>336993268
>HoI2 and HoI3 didn't have mana
So you never played this games...
Go back to your /gsg/ shithole
vici and ck are the only paradox games without mana, and maybe rome don't remember
>>336993348
How they weren't mana? Are you braindead retarded or something?
They are literally worked like adm/dip/mil, you spend them and waited until they restore to spend again
Why do you call one thing mana but not other? Because it's hurt your narration?
>>336993405
Why are you ccomparing representation of resources to a ridiculous gameplay abstraction tthat can be used to fit everything
>>336993626
You are real fucking idiot. Sorry that being Paradox fanboys turned you this stupid.
They are not mana because they aren't some magic points that you can instantly spend to immediately benefit your empire like the monarch point.
Admin Mana? Spend those to immediately reduc War Exhaustion or increase your stability.
And you're comparing this shit to sending your traders to trade center to accumulate money.
You're fucking stupid.
>>336993790
>Spend those to immediately reduc War Exhaustion or increase your stability.
Oh, so you never played EU3 too...
>>336992019
Thats just a cop out. They could have thought about a way to add lore without compromising their desire for randomality.
the game needs more traits, its need more specialization and focus. Different alien life has to have radically different organization and control schemes...They are masters of making menues, well, traits should effect if for example you have commanders that you assign to different tasks or if you have some other control mechanics where a master insect brain levels up and controls everything himself, which means experience always levels up and no leaders can die (cause its one giant hive) but the master mind has other caps which offset the fact the experiecne is always preserved...
We need radical stuff of this nature..We need originality.
This is not EU or CK, where you play with different human countries, these are alien life forms...
Never really played strategy or grand strategy games, so I'll probably get my ass kicked hard but the allure of being able to create my own species and empire and take over the universe, or at least co-exist with others in it is too much for me, I know I will probably get my ass beat and not understand wtf happened but I have to try.
>>336991091
Why do people shit on Distant Worlds so
The game gets so little attention and now that it actually does get attention with Stellaris coming out it gets nothing but insults
Paradox fans are some of the biggest cocksuckers on the internet. I guess all those DLCs melted their brains.
>>336993937
Fucking shills, that's what they are.
Prior to Stellaris release/hype thread nobody shit on DW, or even cared about it.
>>336993875
You can spend imaginary points to immediately increase stability in EU3?
How?
>>336993626
You're not going to win this argument. The mana fags are too simple minded to understand abstraction. They like sending diplomats or spending ducats to instantly have some sort of effect in the world because they know that people and money exist in the real world. It doesn't matter that you and I know that the diplomat is just an abstraction of the political agency of a massive nation state. They can't understand that. All they see is the little portrait of a man. And men do things, don't you know?
>>336993875
He's about to tell you that money isn't mana. Really. These people don't understand. You're just going to get frustrated as he becomes more angry over his own confusion.
>>336993875
Please point out where you spend admin mana to do those things in eu3. I've played that game to death but I must have missed that
>>336994076
>He's about to tell you that money isn't mana.
Damn, son. You sure got me good.
How much did Parajew paid you?
>>336994076
What gets me, is the way that people that talk about mana insist heavily that it's more realistic to spend money or something when it's just divorced entirely from how things worked at the time. EU 4 at least outright doesn't have you develop technolgoy, just adopt it really.
>>336993937
Fuck if I know. I kept asking what's wrong with DW yet nobody tells me, apart from it's shit and shallow and such.
>>336994161
See. He's so confused that he has to fall back on memespeak even if it makes no sense in this context. These people are very, very stupid.
>>336991026
>Paradox LITERALLY found a great financial tactic to keep their company running, and buying is completely optional
FTFY, cunt.
>>336994235
Near to nobody played DW here.
Fuck off already this game is shit and people in this thread are shit too.
40$ for a game on early access level that will have 100DLC.
>still buying poorly coded dlc fest swedish cuck games
lmoa
>>336994220
The problem with influence is that it's just not a very good mechanic. You get these points that can be used in so many different ways, itI doesn't make any sense. Why would suppressing a revolt cost progress in the next military tech?
>>336994220
>>336994251
Actually, the funniest is when people say shit like "why do I have to choose between diplomacy or boats" when several eminent ship designers and naval reformers were also MP's, and natual philsophers and they couldn't be doing everything at once.
>>336991423
Welp, considered this game out of my list then.
Thanks for the heads up.
>>336993937
>>336994235
>Why do people shit on Distant Worlds
Because they tried to make big game but it ended up being a shallow garbage in many aspects
Want to develop properly? Just build neccesery amount of buildings on the planet with needed resourse and tax it. Nothing else needed!
Diplomacy and espionage? Fucking joke even compared to the turn based strategies
And I won't even start with how much little shit you need delegate to the AI if you want even start playing properly
>>336994463
>your army is out putting down rebels
>can't drill in the latest tactics becuase they're putting down a rebellion
You never develop any technolgoy in EU, that's just not how that time period works, that gets done on it's own, you just adopt it and incorporate it.
>>336994463
Bruh, it's all abstract and shit.
Ok, so EU3 has mana.
Then why did you say that Vicky 2 has no mana then? Isn't that a bit hypocritical?
>>336994251
Guys look, this rretarded so conditioned to gobbling Swedish cock he's convinced himself influence is a good mechanic instead of an oversimplification of complex institutions, isn't that hilarious you guys??? XDD
Can you maybe present your point like an actual human being, this is getting obnoxious
>>336992502
cunning post ya git
>>336994667
Because game literally doesn't have resources you can spend?
Even goods and budget you don't spend directly
Can we get release time zone lists, gmt to aest does not translate well friendly /v/'s
>>336994854
8 hours from now for all timezones
My god, Paradox has to fire its concept artists and lore people. Gameplay looks solid but everything else screams conveyor belt McScience-Fiction. Even Startdock managed to do better.
>tfw you'll never have Amplitude tier UI/Art/Lore in Stellaris
>>336994831
Leadership point.
Diplo point.
>>336994854
I-I HEAR THAT IT WILL RELEASE AT 6PM
6 FUCKING PM GMT TIME
I HAVE AN EXAM ON THURSDAY
THIS WAS GOING TO BE MY GAMING DAY
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>336994854
Why do you care? Swedes have made clear they only care about american release time and don't give a shit about europe. Cucks
>>336991894
Master Of Orion 2, a good game
Uhm, guys? Every gameplay vid I've watched has brown humans and nothing else. Light brown, giganigga brown, but no white...
>>336994903
Oh you right
And both of them are actually EU4 style mana if you think about it
torrent when?
>>336995003
It's from Sweden after all.
>>336995003
Look where developer is from
>>336995093
>>336995120
Why is Sweden so progressive?
>it's already been 9 May for a whole fucking day
>game will actually come out on the 10th
Fuck this shit.
can someone toss me the link for the faction customizer?
>>336994891
I honestly agree, as much as i love paradox the lore department lacks. Granted from what i've seen in Stellaris is quite an improvement (fictional setting as compared to previous titles which are heavily historical based so need to be some what believable) but it doesn't top what Amplitude has.
Don't get me wrong their artists work is amazeballs but amplitude just has something about their style that captures that unique feeling of a fantasy science fiction / fantasy universe especially with Endless legend and Space. You ain't wrong either, the UI/Lore is definitely more developed too but then again, stellaris is just making up a story as you go compared to pre-set stories like ES/L so you kind of gotta give them some leeway there.
Speaking of, has their been any record of "magic" or some form of basis that explains the possibility of magical elements in stellaris? I've heard its got some mystical elements to it according to some lets players but im not 100% sure.
>>336995142
Because nordic men are evil.
>>336995219
Only in asian countries like japan and thailand
Even in China it will came out at the 23:00
Is it possible to choose islam as your main religion?
>>336990757
I watched some lets plays.
Looks more casualized then EU4.
>>336995318
I'm pretty sure the description of "magic" is going to be an ethos related one as in a spiritual government is going to be describing anomalies as magical phenomena while more materialistic species will simply be describing it in more scientific terms
>>336990915
>Organs
Oh god yes please
>>336995347
And Ausfuckingstralia.
It will come out at 4AM on the 10th of May here, as far as I can tell.
Look , i get why people hate the DLC policy. I usually only buy the base game and pirate myself but man, these games are by far the ones i put the most hours into. So lets say all in all you spend a 100 bucks on it with all the dlc and you put 400 hours into it, isn't that like...okay? If you don't like it just pirate it , i don't give a fuck
>>336994854
Just fucking google "Stellaris countdown". First result you lazy piece of shit.
>>336995318
What magicial elements?
>>336995802
My MO for Pair-o-ducks games is just to buy the base game and pirate all the DLC after that
its possible to transplant pirated DLC onto legit steam copies
>>336995802
There is literally nothing wrong with DLC.
This DLC is bad meme is the most annoying shit. People got mad at DLC practices originally because it either was a total scam (horse armor) or cut content. But now the difference has been lost and its "ALL DLC BAD".
>>336995318
>Speaking of, has their been any record of "magic" or some form of basis that explains the possibility of magical elements in stellaris? I've heard its got some mystical elements to it according to some lets players but im not 100% sure.
The whatever faster than light technology that goes through hell and has a chance of unleashing a daemonic invasion. I am not kidding, Paradox straight up copied this.
>>336995936
>>336995940
I mean what developer continiously supports their game years after release? I think the main complaint is that EU4 was shit to begin with and still is shit with the Mana
>>336995968
>copied
They are doing lots of tie ins with other scifi themes and stories
Like Terminators and 40k.I like it.
>>336995968
no it doesn't go through hell, it has a chance of opening a hole to another dimension through which otherworldly beings can enter
its less 40k more lovecraft
and besides, given that literally nothing in 40k is original, there's no problems borrowing anything from it
>>336996202
>there's no problems borrowing anything from it
Except shoulderpads, apparently.
>>336996202
>given that literally nothing in 40k is original, there's no problems borrowing anything from it
Shitty logic is shitty
>>336996202
or the movie Event Horizon
>>336996293
dunno warcraft has reached the pauldron threshold
>just only found out about this game today
Well it's a great feeling to be surprised and only have to wait 1 day.
>>336996041
Can we do a thought experiment?
Does anyone remember the 30-40 dollar expansion packs PC games from a generation ago would have
Would two or three pieces of content (non-reskin) DLC released for EU IV, each of which were like 15 dollars at their launch, equal the amount of additions that came with a typical expansion pack
im not making some kind of rhetorical point, i really dont know
>>336996365
not really, if you're borrowing something from 40k you're actually borrowing it from the same source 40k borrowed it from, therefor the creators and fans of 40k have literally zero argument by which to claim borrowing from them is somehow improper
>>336996457
Like I said, thats some real shitty logic.
Also, 40k has plenty of original stories involved. Go read a book.
>>336996417
They occasionally had one or sometimes (rarely) at max two expansions.
The costs were here most time 20-30€.
No cosmetic useless mini DLC for 3$.
No Sims kind 20 big DLC for 15$.
>>336994534
I think the biggest problem with Distant Worlds is that it was a 4x that tried to be a grand strategy, but lacked the good parts from both (like a god awful tech tree that with laser>laser2>laser3>laser4>etc being a 5% boost difference)
>>336996457
>if you're borrowing something from 40k you're actually borrowing it from the same source 40k borrowed it from, therefor the creators and fans of 40k have literally zero argument by which to claim borrowing from them is somehow improper
>I ONLY READ MATURE ORIGINAL STORIES. EVERYTHING NOT ORIGINAL IS SHIT.
You sound like a cunt.
>>336996513
we were talking about setting here, not content
and 40k's setting ranges from inspired by to blatant copyright violation
>>336996054
>I like it.
I'd like it if they did it better. The AI rebellion was already done in AI War and it was fantastic. Seeing a MEDIOCRE copy of warp travel, of AI rebellion, of Tyranids invasion, of basically everything else that's a standard sci-fi trope is not going to make me pay full price.
Going to wait for a sale. By then they might actually fix the end-game melting your rig.
>>336996202
>literally nothing in 40k is original,
True
>there's no problems borrowing anything from it
WRONG! Originality is no virtue, doing something well is what matters. 40k and Fantasy does it great, Paradox is just soulless.
>>336996417
Well the problem with gsg in general is you can't just put together a different campaign right? So they constantly have to change the gameplay or add new nations but also do meaningful additions to the game.
So the last 2 DLCs (wich run you around 30-40 dollars together I guess) added a bunch of new mechanics. I'd say its still less then an expansion was back in the day, but it keeps me coming back to the game and sink another 24-40 hours into it. So the way i see it (if i bought the DLC or eu4 which i didn't) its an okay $/Entertainment ratio
>>336996608
>Im trying to move the goalposts to save face, please stop calling my logic shitty :(
Shitty logic is shitty. Period.
>>336996607
>when 40k rips off something its a-ok
>HOW DARE THIS OTHER SETTING HAVE SOMETHING VAGUELY SIMILAR TO 40K THEY CANNOT GET AWAY WITH THIS CRIME
>>336996675
I never said that though, its good they copy other good scifi settings, you're the one being a cunt claiming everything non original is bad.
>>336996675
We have a saying here.
A good imitation is better than a bad invention.
Just think about what you would enjoy more.
>>336996649
>40k
>doing something well
how to create 40k lore
1: read a scifi/fantasy work
2: remove anything ambiguous about it
3: add grimdark
>>336996781
Anyone can be a minimalist cunt and pretend a work is unoriginal. You're not doing yourself any favors.
>>336996654
well, there's also the addition of mechanics that make absolutely no impact or sense, that can be completely ignored.
I miss the days when expansions were just chock full of content, like getting an entire new campaign for Neverwinter Nights, and not a DLC class with no balance thought for the same price tag
>>336996763
problem is the original argument started with a 40k fan ripping on stellaris for using something which 40k actually didn't invent but rather imitated from yet another source, and somehow claiming this as a major reason for why it sucks
>>336996729
nothing wrong with copying, everything wrong with copying, then demanding you don't be copied in return
I will buy this in 4 years on a steam sale with all the dlc for like $25 and have fun then.
>>336996781
how to create Paradox lore
1: read a history/sci/fantasy book
2: remove anything unique and notable about it
3: use the barebones idea to sell your DLC because muh players should make up their own lore
>>336996892
>everything wrong with copying, then demanding you don't be copied in return
But 40k never did that. So well done for disproving yourself.
>>336996875
that's not being a minimalist cunt, that's pretty much literally how several parts of 40k's setting were created
I mean, everything about the Emperor is basically Dune, minus the intrigue that made Dune interesting
>>336996892
>problem is the original argument started with a 40k fan ripping on stellaris for using something which 40k actually didn't invent but rather imitated from yet another source, and somehow claiming this as a major reason for why it sucks
Literally no one in this thread said this. Stop making shit up to save face.
>>336996948
40k maybe not, but its fans sure as hell do
>The whatever faster than light technology that goes through hell and has a chance of unleashing a daemonic invasion. I am not kidding, Paradox straight up copied this.
>>336996892
The telling of storries as a whole can be seen as a ripodff of old greek dramaes that where a rip off from levante eposes.
Everyone gets an influence and developes Ideas. It's done in music, games, science in just everything.
Some of those is just worse and some better.
This whole discussion is senseless since original content is near to non existent.
>>336996950
How to create Dune lore
1. Copy any scifi ever
2. Add Spice
See how much of a minimalist cunt you are? No more replies for you cunt.
>>336996763
>A good imitation is better than a bad invention.
Mah niggah.
>>336996950
>I mean, everything about the Emperor is basically Dune, minus the intrigue that made Dune interesting
>Dune is literally just any generic history book about politics + scifi + spice
Its unoriginal trash by your shitty logic. This is literally what you are saying.
>>336997125
but if you copy something at least have the integrity to not demand nobody does the same to you
don't go around claiming (insert setting) ripped off 40k because its method of FTL carries risks
>>336997045
He wasn't complaining you moron. Jesus stop being so thin skinned.
>>336997280
Except that dune is a majorly ecological work which was actually a new thing especially for sci-fi at that point.
>>336997340
Not by your shitty logic. But well done proving you're a moron by saying Dune is shit.
>take a nap
>stellaris STILL isnt out
this is worse then hell
how many more hours?
>>336996892
>problem is the original argument started with a 40k fan ripping on stellaris for using something which 40k actually didn't invent but rather imitated from yet another source, and somehow claiming this as a major reason for why it sucks
Improve your reading comprehension. I started the argument by saying Paradox was shit for being bad at copying. When GW copies, it improves on the source material.
Amplitude also copies standard sci-fi concepts. But it improves on them.
Whoever the Pandora devs are also copied SMAC but improved on it.
Contrast with Beyond Earth which is just as much of a soulless copy cash-grab as Paradox.
post empires
>>336997406
I'm not even him, you're just being a fucking tool by even comparing literature to 40k.
And the term you're looking for is reductionist, not minimalist.
obligatory
>>336997573
>Whoever the Pandora devs are also copied SMAC but improved on it.
It's pretty hard to beat SMAC, the steam reviews are leaving me skeptical
>>336997535
7 hours!!!!
>>336996946
>He doesn't have an imagination because he has been spoonfed anime his entire life
whats that empire building sited?
>muh original Dune, totally revolutionary
God-Emperors has existed since before writing had been created. Epic of Gilgamesh, anyone?
>Spice
Guess what LITERAL spices were the object of trade/war since fucking forever.
>>336997724
Well, it's all >opinions but Pandora tried. BE didn't.
>>336997792
>He's paying money so that he can imagine stuff
Reminder that Streamers were embargoed and couldn't talk about how bad the middle to late game stutters/lags. Guy was playing on a fucking server and it was shitting the bed.
Protip: wait for reviews/cpu patch (tho their engine is old as fuck) or play only on the smallest galaxy
>>336997792
Gamers today lack any form of imagination or creativity because the graphics lack any form of vagueness.
IT'S UP
>>336990915
I will conquer space with this
>>336991091
roll for bird master race
TORRENT WHEN?
TORRENT WHEN?
>space 4x
oh neat that could be-
>paradox
oh nevermind. Maybe in a year when it's actually done and the "complete" version is $5 on sale.
I can't wait to see how paradox ruins mountain bladew 2
>>336997669
What website?
>>336998212
probably 10 hours or so. I'm not sure how long it will take for the torrent to be released after it releases on steam but 10 hours would be a safe bet.
>>336991423
>he wants a predefined story instead of emergent gameplay
JUST
>>336997045
The warp isn't hell...
>>336997634
Yeah look pretending to be someone else wont help you either idiot
>>336998301
K cool anon, I'll be having fun playing this for over a year before you buy it.
>>336998403
I'm actually not him, but the fact you don't know the difference between minimalist and reductionist is all we need to know.
>>336998491
Again, keep pretending to be someone else and trying to move the goalposts with your semantics
>>336995003
I've seen white.
Hell, look on the list of races thing posted further up in the thread. White woman, right there. Furthermore, check out anyone who got prerelease copies and is playing human, and you'll see the different portraits for humans.
The people who really got gypped were the Asians, Middle Easterners, Indians, and Hispanics.
It's just White and Black.
Are any reviews up yet? Or is that fucking embargo going to last until actual release? Why are review embargos even allowed? Did Paradox pay reviewers, so they don't show how bugged/broken their game is again at release?
>>336991574
>songs
>portraits
>implying the majority of those aren't completely ancillary dlc that you can ignore without it impacting your enjoyment of the series in the slightest
Well chaps.
I want to tell you my plan. Even I know that you won't give any fuck about it.
So:
I'll go to sleep soon. Wake up at 6pm. And play Stellaris until 9pm when I will have to go to work.
That means I will only get about 5 hours of sleep since I can't fall asleep before 1pm.
I will then drink Energy drinks to stay awake and be able to work.
My timezone is GMT+1.
Damn that's a motherfucking awesome plan, isn't it?
>>336995318
Picking the Spiritualist ethos unlocks some powerful late game "psi" techs.
>>336997573
>send them into the military
Now that's cynical.
>>336998021
Damn, I'll take your word for it. Learning the game through a small galaxy will becomfyif nothing else.
>>336998824
Whatever works, we're building a colony at the edge of human space not a theme park.
Whos ready to play orks at release? doing the split up for animations and adding him some armor to make the "generic" ork first
>>336998945
>>336997573
Is this GalCiv3?
I loved GalCiv 2. Is 3 any good?
>>336998945
Wow, what a shitty writing
Bravo paradox, another reason to pirate your garbage
>>336999007
Orcs would be so fuckable if they had more chest and less face.
>>336998945
Shit this looks a bit like Galactic Civs 2, is this the new 3rd one?
How is it?
>>336999007
Lookin good anon
>>336999007
No, fuck you and your gay orcs with a special k. I'm playing as the Gorn.
>>336999027
this isn't stellaris lmao
>>336999182
>lmao
Say this again and I fuck your boipussi rough.
>>336999345
l m a o
: ^ )
>>336997573
>>336998945
Anyone not selecting the 3rd option in both those cases is a fucking leftie communist that should end themselves.
>>336999421
Wow pretty gay.
>>336991026
>WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR WORK A COMPANY CONTINUES TO DO ON A GAME THEY RELEASED YEARS AGO
Maybe you'll understand how money and jobs work once you stop being a NEET.
I heard it's gonna be open for dwnload in 30 mins
Can't wait to play reptilian slavers, decadent motherfuckers that like to get their cock sucked by their slaves in between conq of galaxy
>>336999015
>Is this GalCiv3?
Yes.
>Is 3 any good?
No.
>>336999583
What is this slave thing I hear going around in Stellaris? Will there be enslaved races?
>>336991343
>im sure they would get more money if they'd change their tactics
Really? I'm sure you don't really know how the world works. Here's a hint, companies only make money when people pay them for the work they spent money doing.
>>336999607
>No.
The fuck of a hell, WHY?
I can't fucking wait the found the Holy Penguin Empire led by the great Emperor Penguin. All races will bow down to penguin superiority.
>>336999004
>solitary collectivists
>>336999663
Praise the Holy Spheniscidae
>>336999679
>What is pre-WW1 Japan
>>336999679
Believing in the greater good doesn't necessarily entail constant contact with people.
Autistic internet commies should have taught you that.
>>336999643
slavery is in and going to be pretty op at the start of the game given slave revolts are bugged and never happen
>>336999756
>>336999747
>loner-fags having a concept of greater good
>loner-fags doing something for other people
>>336999282
>>336999004
>>336997669
what game?
>>336999852
You're an idiot.
>>336999870
Danganronpa
>>336999015
>>336999027
>>336999091
It's GalCiv3.
It's good.
>>336998321
>>336999870
stellarisspeciesgen.com
Can immortality be researched ingame? I dont want my god emperor dying of old age
>>336999870
Boku no Pico.
>>336999978
play pretend the successor is the soul of the dead god emperor incarnate
>Still no GMG key >:(
>>337000029
Or play pretend the emperor is still alive.
You know, just like 40k.
>>336999978
Just worship a pile of bones like they do in 40k.
>>336997669
>Welfarius
>Bootlipians
>>336999978
if you want an immortal rulership there is the one advanced government form where you basically hand control to friend computer
>>336999978
Just make him vulnerable and he will live for a bunch of time and when he dies just rename the next one with his name like parents swaping the dogs so the children don't get sad.
>>336999663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWH_9VRWn8Y
How would this reflect in traits?
>>336999974
>>337000013
I see now, It would really be a challenge run.
>>336999645
it's like with taxes, high taxes actually give less money, because ppl avoid them, if they wouldnt charge 150$ for a full game more ppl would buy it
WHERE IS THE TORRENT
>>337000538
Game isn't out yet
Torrent available yet? Don't worry, I'll buy the game when it's complete and available in one package
>>336990915
That's GOAT material
Help me out here, /v/: Should I get the preorder bonus or hold out and see if Paradox is trying to jew me again?
Early review problems:
>No Map Modes
>Federations and Alliances don't do anything but give you ship access
>Can't tell allies/AI not to research things via force or Diplomacy so Unbidden from researching jump drives will almost always happen
>Only 4 endgame events
>Slavery has 0 downsides if specced properly
>Having too many Pops is responsible for slowdowns
So if there's no real commerce or diplomacy beyond what's in Beyond Earth/vanilla Civ V and military blobbing is only the real play-style where's the grand strategy? The depth?
I get roleplaying different gov types, but fuck does this stink like Paradox rushed this out to milk DLC/push free mod labor
>all these governments
>all this potential for roleplaying story
Fuckkkkkk there goes 200 hours of my life
>>337000735
>Only 4 endgame events
still more than any pure other 4x
>>337000730
Hold out, you're almost 100% getting jewed, Paradox can't release anything solid day 1
>>337000693
>when it's complete and available in one package
>Paradox game
>>337000735
AKA EU IV problem
>Vanilla is shit
>Make expansions that add small fixes/content
>Also Cosmetic DLC
>Repeat, repeat
is cheapest place greenman? $30 USD for the standard edition with their discount code
>>337000902
>love EU4
>think of buying it for a friend
>vanilla is so barebones compared to the rest
>realize I'd be boning him by giving him a barebones version of the game
the world is cruel
I'm looking forward to a barebones version of this game so a retard like me can understand how to play it and then slowly pirate the dlc as it comes out to enhance my experience once I've learned how to play
I have tried so hard to play Paradox games in the past and I've come to one simple conclusion.
These games are for autists.
It's as simple as that. And no, I'm not a casual, I've played Dwarf Fortress, Planescape: Torment, all kinds of shit.
What's the difference between "normal", "nova" and "galaxy"?
Also
>Cross-platform multiplayer
>Linux/Windows
>Cross-platform
ayy
I'm so fucking hyped for this shit right now I can't fucking wait 6 more fucking hours, fuck.
>>337000902
>>337000978
If you play multiplayer with somebody who has DLC and you don´t you automaticly can use that DLC in that game.
rate.
Insect that believe they have to serve a god who punished them by turning the home world into a barren ice land.
They seek for forgivness to make Kryosis great again.
I WILL BREED THEM ALL.
>>336999978
Stellaris is a dry as fuck game. It has no "cool" inventive stuff. It just has generic average shit and even that is used only as decoration, hardly altering anything about the gameplay.
>>337001127
im sure those endless dlc's fuel your salary well, mr paradox pr office employee
>>337001104
Nova gets you a single species picture the soundtrack and a digital artbook if I recall correctly.
It didn't sound worth it.
>>337001091
How the fuck is Planet Escape Tournament a "hardcore" game?
>>337001214
How many hours have you played?
>>337000851
Shills pls leave, I'm glad streamers are actually telling people how average your game actually is. It might be solid one day but it's looking like it'll have the same problem those other space 4x's have: boring ass middle games that you quit unless you're warring because the other half doesn't hold up
i dont even know
>>337001104
The price.
>>337001354
>boring ass middle games that you quit unless you're warring
4X games are supposed to be about permanent war
Stellaris doesn't even have that because it becomes EU4 in space once all planets are claimed
>>337001354
>implying shills are real
>implying you aren't a shill for a different company for being negative
Wow your logic is so sound
>>337001104
"super rare" desktop wallpaper signed by johann-kun
>>336991102
But they only charge $30 for a base game that'll last me literally hundreds of hours.
Muh Stargates
>>337001354
It stops being a 4x game about halfway through and becomes a regular paradox gs game.
ok who's got the cdkeys discount code for this?
Is there literally no downside to all the "- other species happiness" modifiers if you just exterminate every foreigner on your planets?
I thought I would make a kind and peaceful faction
>>337001578
other than having to exterminate all foreigners which is guaranteed to piss of the galaxy
>>337001091
Always when I get into a game of Vicky 2 or even EU4, I just quit after 15 minutes because the game has no real goal, no real mission that keeps you playing, just the prospect of making your country look prettier on the map. And in order to achieve that you have to literally scroll through boring menus for hours. It bores me. I hope Stellaris will be more casualized
>>337000735
>>Slavery has 0 downsides if specced properly
True to life.
>>337001672
>being such an unimaginative and dull casual you are unable to set your own goals and work towards them if the game doesn't explicitly tell you what to do
>>337001339
Stop living in a fantasy world. I have watched hours on end of gameplay. Its so uninventive its crazy.
For a game that mostly has menues, they couldnt create several control schemes..Instead all races, insectoid collectives, and human individualist materialists act and are governed in the exact same way, using the exact same menues with the exact same options.
Its pure fucking faggory and once you get the game and play a few hours you WILL be dissapointed.
This game will not live up to expectations. That is guaranteed.
Its dry.
D
R
Y
everything is boring. Their symmatric traits and world type circles..
There is no uniqueness, only a dry system that distributes stats a bit differently.
CK2 is much better.
Not only does it have history lore but way more features.
This cant rely on existing real life lore and invents none itself.
Its dry mcsci fi menues and identical gameplay for all races.
Why are people excited for this? you wont have a Paradox dev whispering and inventing lore for you when you will be playing alone.
you wont have a "blorg" friendless empire..
You will just have generic menues and portraits all with the exact same gameplay and zero personality.
>>336998781
Doesn't really matter, mongol faces, which are a pack of jaypeg portraits that people used to import into Baldur's Gate for free costs 2€.
>>336990757
You got your playlist together yet /stellaris/?
Here's something to get you started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIUeE9gFGZc
>>337001791
>Instead all races, insectoid collectives, and human individualist materialists act and are governed in the exact same way, using the exact same menues with the exact same options.
Stopped reading. This is completely false.
>>337000424
>fox
Paradox stream is go.
Bye fags.
>>337001791
I'm going to assume there'll be DLC's in the future that further diversify the various species and we'll eventually end up with CK2 like experience where you have a variety of playstyles
>>337001870
link?
>>337001848
>not exclusively listening to SIMPSONWAVE in every game you play
>>337001871
>end up with CK2 like experience where you have a variety of playstyles
Except there are a variety of playstyles in the game right now
Hes just shitposting
>>337001870
>not linking stream
dont reply to me or my son ever again
Which one of you faggots want to try MP when it's out?
>>337001786
Thats not true though. Even their most devved game, CK2 does not really allow you to do as you please since As long as you have blood relatives you keep being the rules. The game does not randomly present you with conditions for doing anything else but steadily conquer and blob up.
There is no tall game, there are no other cool stuff to do except conquer.
conquer, conquer conquer until you get bored.
>>337001926
show me bruh
>>337001917
twitchdottv/paradoxinteractive
>>337000063
Try Gamesplanet next time.
>>337001976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvmbL99ErUo
>That "hair"
>That cumstreak in beard
>le anarchy fist
SWEDEN YES
>>337001791
>symmatric traits
>and identical gameplay for all races.
Biggest downsides. But other than Amplitude there is literally no other 4X dev that does asymmetric factions.
>>337002019
I'm feelin it
>>337002043
>that Humanity
so progressive
>>337001929
No im not. Same menues, same options. Oh I can get lasers instead of rockets? holy shit, amazing.
Oh a tech that add 5 attack? WOW!!!!!! so fun.
I can get shields and my enemy will get armor.
Holy this this game is revolutionary..
P
L
E
A
S
E
Stop shilling the hype.
Even the fucking backgrouns are copy pasted shit.
Want interesting races with personality(cause artwork was created for them) look at endless legends.
This shit suffers from the same thing randomly generated games have always suffered.
The devs make on shitty system that governs everything instead of making unique stuff for each race/ trait, and then let it generate a gazzillion amount of blend samey shit.
>no two races unique
More like no two races different.
>>337002246
The way you format your posts is very annoying, cease and desist.
>>337002075
Have they fixed the AI and other crappy shit in Endless legends yet?
>>337002075
man why can't more games have factions that play fundamentally different like endless legend?
One thing I don't like about Stellaris is how small it is. I want an empire of hundreds of planets and dozens of those explorer ships
>>337002246
it's time to stop posting
>>337002307
Three months ago. Get in, game just got space moth-bat people race.
>>336991947
I'm an idort, and this game looks pretty bad.
>>337002294
>>337002360
heh, deal with it idiots. Preordered already?
I hope you got the galaxy edition cause you suckers never learn.
Torrent where? Is it true that it uses denuvo?
>I always play xenophiles
>I hate encountering xenophobes
SWEEEEEEEEEEDEEEEEEEEEEEN!
>>336993937
YO dawg I heard you like borders
>>336998301
>I can't wait to see how paradox ruins mountain bladew 2
Good news, they no longer publishing it.
>>337000424
As funny as that is. It will probably be actual interesting play through
>>336991091
Molluscoid 5
>>337002465
I've only now paid attention to Stellaris, literally today but I think it looks interesting. But you're just being annoying.
>>337002465
>heh,
kek
>>337002390
How many dlc does the game have? I see 1.4.4 with 9 dlc and 1.4.2 with 11 dlc wtf..
Which version do I get?
Are there some non gameplay DLC that can be skipped?
>>337000063
Came here to post this.
>>337002627
>Eldritch
>weak
reeee etc
>>337001531
That's the whole point, it actually doesn't. Put the brakes on the hype, they made it so "accessible" that the post 4x part of the game pulls off being more if not as boring as the predecessors because their mechanics are half baked.
Wait for reviews if you don't believe me.
>>337001104
Just scroll down further you dipshit.
Are all those going to be part of the randomly generated worlds or somethigns?
Fuck Paradox and their focus on MP. I guarantee this will have horrendous balance because the entire game is focused around MP.
>>337002684
>Which version do I get?
All the DLCs and base game are on sale for $20. They're all full expansions. Nothing can be skipped.
>>337002701
There is tons of Eldritch races through the void
you silly goose
I'm kind of annoyed that there's not more randomization / customization for the appearances of races. The game boasts procedural content but I have a feeling they didn't go far enough with it.
Where can I get this the cheapest? Any discount codes? I love spess but I suck at paradox games. I'm gonna buy it but when I can't enjoy it I want it to not hurt too much.
>I like to be a trump empire
>Militarist, Individualist, Xenophobe
Ayyy
>>337002884
inb4 /pol/itical debate
>>337002926
BUILD HYPERSPACE INHIBITORS
>>337002246
man I was wondering why /gsg/ had little to no shitposts today, guess all the steamgroup went here now that you got kicked out of the general huh? :^)
>>337002884
>xenophobe
>>337001381
mien nigger
can't wait to pirate another paradox game and all it's dlc
>>337002804
Where? I don't see any sale on steam
>>337003004
I bet you bought CoD
>>337003063
Go away Jewhan.
>>337002246
Literally everything you said is entirely false, and proven so by all the videos and information we already have on the game.
>>337003004
Good luck with denuvo in place dirty poorfag
>>337003125
That's a yes.
>>336991026
>watching the streams they do for stellaris
>one guy asking questions about the sectors you can have
>do they have capitals? one asks
>we haven't implemented that, maybe in the future
>numerous questions saying they haven't got this or that
I can already sense a dlc announcement by next month.
>>337002768
Nope, its just for hype and marketing. Game is gonna be pretty underwhelming.
But it might get good in 2-3 years after several expansions.
>>337003063
>>337003183
>people actively fund the jews happily
>>336990757
Why is this game so popular?
Since I haven't seen anything about it anywhere, I'm guessing it's Youtubers and E-celebs shilling it?
>>337003183
y... you're kidding, right?
>>337003279
Because it's literally everything I want from a space-themed game.
>>337001660
It's a Paradox game so I'll just blob to the point where I won't need allies
Why do /gsg/ autists want this to fail so hard? Just because its not historical shit?
>>337003279
Because it's good, son. Now get out and help your mother do the chores.
>>337003279
I have no idea.
It's for autists.
>>337003226
He mentioned "expansions" within the first 15 minutes of the stream...
>>337003331
The steamgroup hates anything that isn't Vicky 2, it has become a tradition at this point.
>>336990757
4x games. I don't know why the fuck anyone could enjoy these and also get amped for a new one, just play the one you already have you boring fuck.
You wanna make space great again come help me discover all these mother fucking planets and species in no man's sky.
Thats about the only greatness that awaits outside of a NEET who plays EVE 22 hours a day, and we can all agree on how subjective such greatness is.
>>337003174
He's annoying, but right on a few things...there really aren't different 'playstyles', you get custom event chains and tech modifiers based on gov type, but playing peaceful or as an actual trading civ or diplomat is not really possible.
>>337003331
Because it's EU4 i space and EU4 is shit
Paradox just keeps making it worse with every patch, as well, and they did the same to CK2
Just in general, modern Paradox is terrible and can't do anything right
>>337003412
>Steamgruppen
RAUS
RAUS
>>337003279
why are you even here
>>337003331
true /gsg/ autists (liqueur lords) hate anything that isn't vicky 2
>>336991091
rolling on the space slugs
>>337003448
t. rad yugo
>>337002541
>As funny as that is. It will probably be actual interesting play through
that's why I said it would be cool as a challenge run.
>>337001865you know that every /v/irgin is a closet furry.
>>337003408
Not talking about the current one, I was watching youtube videos m8
>>337003459
Liquor lords, prussia pros, willy wagglers, beurocrat bosses.
>>337003512
Fuck off, that's even worse than all the /v/ IS GAY FOR TRAPS fags
>>337003587
b-but m-muh German armee
>>337003226
>>337003408
>>337003417
>>337003442
silence you ungrateful goyims, you're undoing all of my hard work
>>337003306
They're not using Denuvo.
>>337003324
Good luck with end-game crisis.
>>337003440
You can kind of do that in Vic2, if you find a strong ally to protect you, but in most of their games and 4X in general it's impossible NOT to focus on weaponry and military.
Atleast they've shown us that there is stuff to do in peace time.
>>337001516
gold?
>>337003459
t. baby who started with EU4
>>337003324
This...They never let you go tall..
I mean why can i play with only 1 planet? Get super high tech, get a crazy ass planatery shield and robot soldiers that fight wars outside my planet...using drones and transformers and robots to see whats going on around the galaxy, capture and study the different races and planets to improve my tech even further etc..
warp space around my planet, get access to another dimension and expand the surface of my planet into it...
Paradox cant into imagination...
>>336993423
You can play EU games as historically accurate if you want, but I'd say 90% of playthroughs are 'alternate history' playthroughs (resurgent Byzantium, African empires, etc etc)
>>337003587
>prussia pros
>be Prussia
>lose all wars
>get disbanded
Ebin history
>>337003639
>They're not using Denuvo.
actually when I said "you're kidding" I meant, "Are you seriously implying denuvo is gonna stop pirates? holy shit you can't be serious"
>>337003629
muh unified german empire
t. prussia pro
>>337003692
You can probably do that in Aurora
>>337003674
Like fucking clockwork, you liquor lord subhumans never cease to amuse me.
>>337003674
Don't you have beurocrats to encourage?
>>337003674
t. liquor lord
>>337003709
Are you seriously implying denuvo doesn't work? Most of the games still aren't cracked
>>337003639
The end - game crisises look fucking easy. The unbidden are hard at first but then become easy to push back. The prethoryn can be your slaves if you captre their queen. And the AI rebellion can be crush quickly if you have fallen empire tech at that point which you probably will
>>336995318
Agreed, Amplitude's art and sound is A*. Really draws you into the universe.
>>337003739
But im not autistic enough to play Aurora.
>>337003793
>>337003781
>>337003741
Yeah V2 is a better game, so what?
HoI3, EU3 and V1 are better as well, what's your point?
Even fucking CK2 is better
>>337003793
>liquor lord
what the fuck is a liquor lord? it sounds like a compliment. I fucking love alcohol, I'd probably make a fantastic liquor lord, hell I could be a goddamn king sign me the fuck up senpai
>>337003860
Do you get money through liquor?
i've never had anyone look at my specs, can someone tell me how good or shit my 2011 prebuilt is?
>>337004003
Looks pretty minimalist.
>>337004003
forgot the fucking image
>>336995318
The issue with Endless Space is that it is highly boring, and not a really good game all things taken. The art, design and setting is A++, but the gameplay is C+ at best.
Yes, Stellaris' setting seem to be less focused, but the gameplay is just plain better.
What's the space combat like in this game?
>>337004058
pass the minimum at least.
Paradox games are more on the CPU side of things so you'll be fine
>>337004058
graphics should be able to be tinkered with, you pass both cpu and ram which will matter in the long term.
If you're on the fence pirate it obviously.
>>337002329
Play Sword of the Stars.The first one, not the bad sequel.
>>337004098
like Gal Civ/SotS, you design ships and watch 'em fight
>>337003881
/gsg/ meme about Vic2 players who spam liquor factories because they give the most income.
>>337003709
Majority of Denuvo-based games haven't been cracked yet.
>>337003860
Vicky 2 is a pretty bad game. As an illiterate country you have a wait decades to get a working economy because of the way the POP system works, if laissez faire economics gets voted in the mean time you are screwed. The infamy mechanic is stupid, you either wait for years or ignore it because you are too powerful to worry about it, at least with coalitions in EU4 you can work to mitigate some of the hate, and finally the influence system is boring and involves potentially huge micromanagement if you want to get the most influence.
>>337004165
You don't watch ships fight in SotS you tactically command them.
>>336991091
>Only one furfag race
Dropped
>>336991574
How dare they release 150$ worth of mostly cosmetic DLC over 4 years, while putting as many features into free patches as there are in gameplay DLC. HOW DARE THEY!
>>336991574
the game is 4 years old and they never stop updating it.
can we please stop arguing about whether or not Stellaris is going to be bad, and focus on the good stuff? I for one am super hyped and have already pre-ordered the galaxy edition, I can't wait to play it later today. I'm gonna have tons of fun just designing my species, and the gameplay will be awesome too.
So please stop with all of the negativity for once, let's just talk about how great the game is so we can get more people to pre-order with us and have a big community with lots of people to talk to the game about.
t. someone who enjoys playing/discussing vidya, supporting developers, not some salty /v/irgin who whines about everything and pirates games like the cancerous faggot he is.
Ok, not vid related, but gime me movies or anime settled in space!
>Galactica
>Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199
>>336991091
What does the asterisk mean?
>>337004058
Why do you have such shitty GPU with an i7??
>>337004186
>As an illiterate country you have a wait decades to get a working economy because of the way the POP system works
Typical EU4 baby wanting everything handed to him on a silver plate, regardless of the country he's playing
>The infamy mechanic is stupid, you either wait for years or ignore it because you are too powerful to worry about it
Oh no, you can't blob non-stop unless you're insanely powerful, I hate realistic mechanics :(((((
>finally the influence system is boring
Just puppet everyone
>>337004208
Not if you auto-resolve :^)
When are they going to make space games as reaching as Star Ruler again?
This game, I've seen things you people wouldn't believe
I've only really played Civ5 and Endless Legend, never a space strategy thing like this. Is it worth a shot?
>>337004329
t. liquor lord
Make sure to pre order Hearts of Universalis 4 while you are at it fellow anons!
>>337004337
Never, because the company is dead.
Which is a fucking shame because making ships that were bigger than entire planets or even entire star systems was fucking hilarious.
>>337004348
If you enjoy strategy games then yes.
>>337004350
Cool beans, enjoy your fucked mana mechanics
I'm waiting for your posts about the other Paradox games but you probably never played them
>>336991091
>>336991091
Rolling, gonna get trolled hard probably
>>337004324
>i7 automagically means a CPU is good
Get outta here ya donut, that CPU isn't that great.
i'll just buy it and then torrent all the dlc
>all these people buying into parajew's marketing
I hope you're ready to die disappointed
>>337004317
Not ready, if you preordered will get for free sometime latter
>>337002329
Because you can see at the Civilisation games how unbalanced this gets, especially in Multiplayer.
>playing with friends and random Civs
>getting either Poland, Korea , Babylon or Russia
>instant win
>>336991091
rollan rollan
>>337004439
That anon didin't said anything about that
God you are retarded.
>>337004410
>ships that were bigger than entire planets or even entire star systems
NOT DREAMING BIG ENOUGH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJJEMmzKzR4
I don't think I can enjoy this. I just vastly prefer the historical/fantasy setting over the sci-fi cosmic one.
Shame, game looks ambitious.
>>337004410
>If you enjoy strategy games then yes.
Is it more like a 4X or grand strategy? I haven't been able to get into grand strategy, at least not yet.
>>337004434
t. liquor lord
I only have Civ 5 experience. Will I like this?
>>337004410
>If you enjoy strategy games then yes.
Not him, but that's such a bullshit answer and you know it. Civ5 and Endless Legend are not grand strategy games and furthermore 4X games are easily the most casual turn based strategies out there
>>337004518
Nope
>>337004410
>Which is a fucking shame because making ships that were bigger than entire planets or even entire star systems was fucking hilarious.
That one moment in a game
When the main means of assault on your enemies switches over to the stellar collapse of their stars
Jesus Christ IS IT EVEN WORTH IT ANYMORE AT THAT STAGE? Lesser species with populations of billions sitting in their sole owned solar system and you just collapse their star and destroying everything in their solar system in one huge super-novae simply to deny resources to your arch-nemesis empire who holds so many stars, like you, that one star is a mere drop in the bucket but you just can't risk letting them have it.
>>337004503
grand strat
there's warscore, for fucks sake
>>337004518
No, its much larger. Unless you played Civ5 on the modded HUGE map, and on the slowest marathon speed.
>>337004503
4x at the beginning while you explore, colonize and start getting your empire up its feet
After that the grand strategy elements slowly take over, you'll be managing pops and what not and play the diplomacy game with other empires.
This is how you make a game with character.
>>337004503
it's supposed to be a blend of both.
in a game like crusader kings, you enter a pre-established world filled with people, choose a spot to sit down and then continue playing in their place.
in stellaris you start from basically scratch, like civilization, and slowly grow into a huge empire, like crusader kings.
at least: that's my basic understanding of it.
>>337004479
>technology in star ruler becomes so advanced that the main means of attack your ships do is simply expanding their shields outwards
>they warp into solar systems and just expand their shields, destroying anything, even planets, that can not resist their power in a single pulse
>>337004478
It's inferred.
>>337004503
Its real time with pause, and its large scale, and the combat is strategical, not tactical.
>>337004306
>look at this moron shilling the game to himself
Hey, you should grab a bunch of bills with one hand and pass them over to the other, then tap yourself on the shoulder and look at your shit eating grin in the mirror.
>>337004481
Setting isn't everything. You should at least give it a try. I'm not a fan of space stuff, and I'm a bigger medieval history buff than anyone I know personally, but I still enjoy sci-fi stuff from time to time.
>>337004741
did you not look at the spoiler image? or are you just pretending to be retarded
>>337004613
This is how you make a game with character:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ci5vQ0Snc
>>337004815
Have you played Endless Space 1? It's Civ in space but with even less depth, somehow
>>337004778
>Look at this guy who doesnt understand post-honesty irony.
>>337004815
2 years after buying it, I still havent finished a single game of Endless Legend, despite starting like 20-30.
>>337004520
How the hell is that a bullshit answer? EL is a 4X game, and so is Civ5.
>are easily the most casual turn based strategies out there
I don't even know what your argument is with this sentence.
>>337004503
>I haven't been able to get into grand strategy, at least not yet.
Stellaris seems to be a good spot to try out the genre, or EU4. To be honest the only complex grand strategy games out there made by Paradox are HoI3 and Vic2.
Then of course you have Aurora, which is a spreadsheet simulator with a UI literally from 1992.
>they still haven't started playing the game in this fucking stream
>>337004815
First game was butchered galciv2
Why should I care about second?
>>337004856
Yeah endless space was their first effort. Look what they did with endlgess legend.
This vid shows a very promising game, full of character.
>>337004630
Is there any other videogame universe that can actually compare to Star Ruler?
People mainly cite Supreme Commander as being one of the most powerful fictional videogame entities, but once you look into SR and see where the technology leads it just ends up being frightful.
>>337004878
not him, but you misread what he said. try again.
Hope you niggers are watching based quills playthrough of this.
>Game says May 9th release
>Actually is released late at night may 9th, and may 10th in the majority of the world
Fucking Swedes
>>337004815
looks like shit.
>>336991574
think I bought just about everything and spent over 200 euros on this game
dont regret it at all this game is great fun
inb4 it's shit
>>336994505
You're retarded
>>337004947
can i preload it or anything? :(
>>337004947
Time is a relative concept.
>>337004561
Medium and Large galaxies are too slow late game, there's a really bad CPU/ lag problem they haven't been able to fix yet.
>>337004572
Don't lie to him, you clearly haven't played it. It really is casual, the "grand strat" part of this game is nonexistent, it has less diplomacy options than Civ V with all expacs. The quest chains (might be boring after a play through though) and pop management are alright, but again just managing tiles
>>337005021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaR3sVpTB98
>>336991263
>implying that I'm not a fungy
>>337005069
huge civ5 marathon maps with 25-30 AIs can take up to 3-5 minutes later in the game per turn
this is just bad code, it can't possibly require so much computation
>>336991091
Not synthetic ? I want to be space robots
>>337004925
>Look what they did with endlgess legend.
AoW, but with less depth
>>337001657
But that looks like Turks to me
>>337005182
you can research AI later in the game, as well as cybernetics, genetic engineering, and various other stuff.
>>337004947
Australia isn't the "majority of the world"
>>337005182
buy our DLC goy
>>336996669
But he's right lol. You're moving the goldpost you git
Is this online only or can i iplay it offline too?
>>337005182
>lol let's make one species with totally different gameplay from all others
Sounds stupid
Maybe as a optional dlc, but garbage like this doesn't needed in the main game
>>337005072
>George Carlin
>>337005213
So you can become cyborgs later in the game ? Does it really affect the gameplay or is it just a tech like any other one ?
>>337005319
>underage b&
>>337005341
>tech like any other one ?
What does this even mean
A huge number of techs open up entirely different gameplay possibilities. Becoming robots is just one of them.
>Not playing fungi collectivist slavers
>Not being bodysnaters
>>337004410
>>337004550
>>337004337
Are you three talking about Star Ruler? The one that I know of never had ships that could collapse fucking stars.
Or planetary sized vessels as far as I could recall.
But that was Star Ruler 2.
Someone post a damn link I must see an example of this Foreruner tier faggotry.
>>337005069
>It really is casual, the "grand strat" part of this game is nonexistent, it has less diplomacy options than Civ V with all expacs
What ? What kind of advanced diplomacy option do you have in CIV V compared to Stellaris ? You cant even share charts any longer, you can see their main capital but nothing more. The only thing i would say is the Spy system but we all know this will be a future DLC.
>>337005370
George Carlin is the patron saint of fedora redditors and edgy /b/tards kiddo
>>337005341
>Does it really affect the gameplay
Nothing effects the gameplay.
All the cool shit you hear of just boils down to a +X% modifier.
This is the eternal Paradox.
>>337005294
I don't care if they're not really different I just want to roleplay, but either way, not wanting more variety in the gameplay is retarded. Endless legend is dope for this, each factions feels and plays actually different instead of the same thing copypasted x times
>>337005069
>it has less diplomacy options than Civ V with all expacs.
Pfthahahahahah. No.
>>337005417
What form of government do angry mushrooms have?
>>337005421
>forerunner tier faggotry
Star Ruler 1 surpasses Forerunner tech by miles.
I haven't played much of Star Ruler 2 but from what I've seen they've brought back the scale a lot. I'm not even sure you can build ringworlds in 2 anymore like you can in 1.
>>337005451
You're the same idiot spamming the /gsg/ threads, aren't you?
If you're going to try and discredit a game at least say things that are true
>>337005452
>Endless legend is dope for this, each factions feels and plays actually different instead of the same thing copypasted x times
They all play the same after first 10 hours
Why are you lying about endless garbage? Their games are more basic than 10 years old analogues
>>337005534
>liquor lord
>saying things that are true
lel
>>337005447
>Some other people I've never met like someone so I must hate him
>>337005513
Not sure. What do you think would be the best suited?
>>337005534
>You're the same idiot spamming the /gsg/ threads, aren't you?
No, I'm not. I spent the last 2 hours playing Doom 3.
I'm the furry from last thread.
But still,
>implying it isn't true
The only Paradox game that has government actually effect playstyle is Vicky 2. In EU4 all changing government is is literally a +X% modifier, and the same will be true in Stellaris.
Prove. Me. Wrong.
I want to be wrong. I want to believe this game will be good and fun. But I'm not.
>>337005646
>I'm the furry from last thread.
Opinion disregarded. You are too stupid to know anything and you proved that last time.
>>337005556
>first 10 hours
This is how I know you never played it
Where is the counter for the release time? I don't see one on steam. Is there one on the Paradox website or something?
>>337005653
>I'm right and anyone who disagrees with me wears a hat
>>337005678
I have over 2500 hours in Paradox games, including 800 in EU3.
>>337005646
Oh you're THAT idiot. Makes sense.
Go shitpost somewhere else, you have no clue about any of these games.
>>337005678
Doesn't change the argument that governments only give a static bonus and doesn't change the gameplay one bit.
You do get some special stuff like Nomads and shit but generally it's all the same.
>>337005704
There is no counter. It's released at 18:00 CEST.
>>337005712
>I like George Carlin
>>337005742
Whatever you say, m8.
>>337005735
No you dont, fuck off idiot.
>>337005743
Completely false. Technologies, policies, relations with other species as well as fallen empires and game ending scenarios, weapons, ships, stations, buildings and population are all changed by your government type.
This is shit we've known since the moment they revealed the first gameplay videos, the fact is you're just shitposting mindlessly saying the game has nothing when everyone already knows you are wrong.
>>337005743
And again, still better than shit like CIV where some Civs were utter garbage and no one would use them while you had no progress or effect on them while moving through the ages.
Which- by looking at the streams - will be different in Stellaris.
>>336991091
asdasd
>>337005743
>Doesn't change the argument that governments only give a static bonus and doesn't change the gameplay one bit.
Except that isnt true at all. For example you cant be a slaver faction if you dont take a slaver trait or government type. You cant research Psionics if you don't take religion in some sort. You cant get certain ships if you dont take military. ect ect ect.
Government type dictates a lot of what you can and cant do, you'll have to play the game multiple times to actually see everything.
>>337005815
>No you dont, fuck off idiot.
Yes, I do.
>Technologies, policies, relations with other species as well as fallen empires and game ending scenarios, weapons, ships, stations, buildings and population are all changed by your government type.
How, exactly?
They didn't tell you that, did they? They're just spouting bullshit, anon. You're falling for their lies.
How come this shit gets finished but they cannot pick the pieces of east vs west and release it as a working full game?
>>337005917
Because we've fucking seen it in action in all the videos.
Holy shit you are ignorant as fuck.
>>337005917
>How, exactly?
Gee I dunno anon, maybe all this gameplay footage that shows us how the game works?
>>337005943
Point me to one, with a timestamp if it's a long one.
It boils down to "can't do X if you don't pick the X culture", which isn't exactly groundbreaking and when X itself is just a static bonus it doesn't even matter. "If you're from government 1 you can't get static bonus A" doesn't exactly thrill me.
Paradox games are like accounting software. It's just a numbers game.
>>337005917
I honestly hope you fall down a set of stairs in real life.
>>337006049
Go educate yourself. Im not going to waste anymore of my time trying to help someone who is being purposely idiotic.
You're wrong and that's a fact. Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant.
>>337006069
From the way you communicate it sounds like you already have.
>>337005926
>east vs west
that will be DLC for hearts of iron IV
>>337006049
>It boils down to "can't do X if you don't pick the X culture", which isn't exactly groundbreaking and when X itself is just a static bonus it doesn't even matter.
This is objectively false.
>>337005917
>How, exactly?
>They didn't tell you that, did they?
Oh they did and it was seen at the streams and general gameplay footage you Moron.
>>337006049
>If you're from government 1 you can't get static bonus A" doesn't exactly thrill me.
Then fuck off. No one is forcing you to play it. Just because you are too stupid to understand how Stellaris works doesnt mean everyone else is.
>>337006096
If you say so, senpai, but if you were as self-evidently correct as you believe that you are it wouldn't take you any time at all to educate me.
I'm not a drooling retard, regardless of what you believe. I'm open to listening to your point of view, and like I said - I want to be wrong. You are simply unconvincing.
This fucking stupid, subhuman furfaggot is triggering me hard, goddammit.
>>337005479
>>337005426
That's what I'm saying you dumb cunts, it doesn't have anything different in terms of diplomacy or interacting with AI that Civ doesn't (on fact it has less, at least Civs like Austria could basically buyout entire city states, not to mention espionage) It's barebones. This is from someone that got a preview copy and played most of their other titles, it might be their worst vanilla title.
While perfect for 4x players, I 100% guarantee most looking for anything revolutionary or cpmplex will be disappointed. Though I optimistically expect DLC like Conclave (more diplo options for federations and alliances), Republics (for megacorps), Nomads, and Superstructures/weapons in the first 2 years.
>>337006049
>Point me to one, with a timestamp if it's a long one.
Are you fucking serious? You get mad and rant about Stellaris being a shit game but havnt even bothered to watch any videos of its gameplay and proceed to spout entirely incorrect bullshit, and think you have a valid opinion on the game?
End yourself you degenerate.
>>337006154
>>337006162
Then provide the evidence.
>>337006208
Did typing out that post make you feel good?
>>337006252
>That's what I'm saying you dumb cunts, it doesn't have anything different in terms of diplomacy or interacting with AI that Civ doesn't
More entirely false statements. You should go hang out with >>337006123 this idiot. He likes making baseless claims too.
>>337006123
Nothing wrong with what he said, degenerate.
>>337006253
>but havnt even bothered to watch any videos of its gameplay
I have watched them, and I don't remember seeing any of this revolutionary gameplay that is being touted.
Hence why I want someone to point me in the right direction.
>>337005881
Not that guy, but you're dead wrong. Things like psionics are just modifiers, dice rolls. If you have a scientist as an expert in it you can research it regardless of your type. Read the wiki, can't believe you people watch a stream for 10 minutes then pretend to be experts.
>>337006280
>Did typing out that post make you feel good?
Yes, putting you in your place and seeing everyone else realize how stupid you are does feel good. Now fuck off. And you know you're in the wrong too, at this point your just shitposting to save face.
>>337006349
No you dont, and no you didnt. You are just shitposting now because everyone is calling you out on how retarded you sound.
No more replies for you
>>337006420
>>337006420
And better ignore furry poster
>>337006397
I assume you are referring to combat Psionics, which is entirely different from the other forms of Psionics you can research when you are a religious faction.
Why dont YOU go educate yourself idiot.
>>337006408
based sligs
>>337006404
>putting you in your place
Do you really think that's what happened?
>No you dont, and no you didnt
Yes, you are the authority on what I did with my time, not me. My apologies, I didn't realise.
Jesus Christ. Are you people literally paid by Paradox. All I'm asking for is a source for your wild claims that Stellaris has totally distinct playstyles for each type of government and your response is pants-on-head screaming that no Stellaris is the perfect game and anyone who doesn't think so is just ignorant.
I don't get it.
>>337006408
God damn, thanks for pointing that out
>>337006349
>I have watched them, and I don't remember seeing any of this
Do you live in Germany ? If yes we can make a quick appointment and i could ceck for any brain trauma you may have received in the past, influencing your short and long term memory.
For any further treatment i would transfer you to a collegue specialized in young Alzheimer patients.
>>337006468
>>337006253
>>337006306
Good goys, now please link your steam account so I can give you your well deserved keys
I only bought this game because you can be a genocidal despotic xenphobic slaver empire.
>>336990757
looks like shit. go away shill.
