First homepage redesign in almost a decade.
But why..?
he wants more people to see the malware ads
>>393938
I like the new front page.
>>393963
Me too, it's like a small randomized catalog.
I think it's more useful.
>>393985
Isn't the Pokemon board for both the anime and games?
>>393985
It is useful. It's a nice little meta-catalog that gives a good taste of what's going in 4chan when you pop in.
>>393992
I see, but still it seems more fitting in Japanese Culture
>>393985
Agreed. But Hiro now that you're here, some things you might need to be aware of:
>>391133
>People are interested in a video industry and culture board. What is your opinion on it? /v/ is a mess and it needs help badly
>People want to be allowed to post western fetish art on /d/ again. Its a major topic brought up over and over again.
>The constant spam about Reddit needs to stop. Its shitposting to the extreme and its ruining this place big time.
>There is still malware on the front page, and thus people are using adblock
>The Reddit spam needs to stop. Word filter Reddit to something, like say 4chan if you could.
>Please talk to the mods. They are acting out of control and are not doing their jobs properly
>>393985
Too old for us.
Change the color to rainbow flag to piss off /pol/ and /b/
>>393990
picrel?
>>393997
picrel = picrelated
it's just another way of saying "the image I posted"
>>393985
i just dislike it that the recent posts got removed.
why tho?
>>393540
Also important you see this Hiro. Its regarding the hatred toward and the massive amount of Reddit spam
>>394005
https://4ch.be/_/search/text/reddit/
That's how bad things are Hiro. I'm glad you fixed the front page, but this Reddit spam has got to be stopped
>>393985
Hiro, will you stay around and answer some questions here on /qa/? There's a bunch of people who are looking for attention for their boards.
Why not make a separate thread where you can listen to people's issues?
>>394008
Holy fuck this! Hiro if you could do this that would be fantastic! Make a thread just for you where we can relay our problems
>>393995
nobody cares, asshole
>>394008
>There's a bunch of people who are looking for attention for their boards
You mean a bunch of whiners looking to order the mod team around and dictate policy like this is some /q/ 2.0.
>>394012
Apparently they do since people making threads about them. Fuck off back to Reddit
>>394008
i tought the q in /qa/ could be used for preblems
>>394015
>everyone
I'm more sick if /s4s/ whining about "comfy" tbqh
>>394015
>comfy
Kill yourself brony fatass
Hiro, bro! You should start pulling off jokes on 4chan.
I miss the old days
Maybe you could turn off /pol/ or /r9k/ for a day or a week, just to see what would happen.
>>394023
Subtle.
>>394035
or just filter posts containing:"just delete/remove 'board'".
>>393997
Please reinstate Rule 15 (No posting of ponies outside /mlp) on /trash/, Hiro.
They are flooding the bloard.
>>394038
>>393985
Cool.
>>394046
>trying to force standards on /trash/
Fuck off
>>393997
>>394046
Also, please move all Quest threads to /trash/
If hunger games go to trash, so should quest threads
>>394015
This so much, or at least make a anti duplicated thread rule so /q/ posting can be contained into single threads rather than /v/ tier spam
>>394064
>standards
>implying
Rule 15 exists for a reason, just make /mlp/ a red board, half the threads are thinly veiled fetish/roleplay threads anyway, if not NSW all together.
>>394068
>trying to "clean" the literal trash board
Again, fuck off
>>394046
That is literally the entire purpose of /trash/. A red board for ponies.
>>394072
>clean
/mlp/ used to exist for this exact reason until mods started to crack down.
Please re-instate rule 15 on /trash/ and make /mlp/ red, Hiro.
>>394068
The mods don't want that though. Ever herd of an incident called "The Scruffening"? It all started when Lauren Faust, the creator of MLP actually came to /mlp/ one day. Next day afterwords porn threads, tulpa threads, international language threads, all started getting deleted en masse. This went on for almost two weeks without any explanatoin from mods or janitors.
Then finally a mod came in and said they were banning all NSFW content from /mlp/, mostly due to the visit, and because /mlp/ happened to show up on the front page on Google and moot was worried little girls were gonna click on it and be directed here. Then came the Barney defense, in which the mod made the dumbest reasoning of all time for banning NSFW from /mlp/
>>394077
No, /trash/ is the offtopic board, ponies have no reason to be there
>>394078
Removing ponies from /trash/ while keeping furshit is fucking retarded, fags like you are the reason why /mlp/ was created in the first place, getting this fucking butthurt over reaction images
>B-But muh pony porn
See above, /mlp/ likes /trash/ and we are there to stay, its a nice place to pay a visit to once a while and everybody is nice with each other because nobody expects the board to get better in any way, forcing /trash/ to change would fucking destroy it because people would see that as the chance to censor shit they don't like, turning /trash/ into another /b/, so please, take your uneducated opinions and keep them to yourself, fucking retard
>>394079
Yes I know about Scruffy, that's why now is a good time to undo that.
The show isn't as popular as it used to be, and neither is the spam/hate of ponies either. /mlp/ isn't as relevant as it used to be so there's no need to fear wayward clicks.
>>394094
>wants to enforce r15
>claims its outdated and pointless
>>394088
>ponies have no reason to be there
The reason is that they are allowed there, because it was created as a place where NSFW ponies are allowed to be posted.
>>394101
Even though the majority of /mlp/ wants NSFW on the board
>>394088
It looks like the only butthurt one is you, anon.
>implying I like furries
I go for hunger games.
And /trash/ IS another /b/. Stop deluding yourself. The only real difference is no Rule 15,
>>394100
I never claimed rule 15 was pointless.
>>394068
>just make /mlp/ a red board
>catering to ponyfags
>>394107
How? Would you like us to keep our mouths shut and not tell Hiro the problems 4chan is currently facing?
>>394101
you're right, but its still mostly an offtopic board, ponies are just part of it, not all of it
>I never claimed rule 15 was pointless.
You just said the show isn't as popular as it used t obe, and neither the spam/hate of ponies either, why would rule 15 need to exist if nobody cares anymore?
>implying I like furries
I never implied that though, i just said that removing ponies while keeping furry porn is unfair and makes no sense, why not also remove pokemon porn and make /vp/ red them? Its a slower board and i bet they would be into that, am i right?
>It looks like the only butthurt one is you, anon.
>implying
>>394115
>implying Hiro is still here
>implying /qa/ is a suggetion box
>muh "We can do it" mentality
Fuck off back to /v/, /q/fag newfag
>>394115
Fuck off, /qa/ isn't /q/, stop treating it as such. He needs to get off the fucking thing, not fucking listen to stupid retards who know nothing about the shit they are trying to govern
>>394124
Actually he needs to listen to the users, not just do what the mods tell him.
We had too many years of moot's silent treatment, and look where it got us.
>>394115
>implying they actually listen to us
As you can see, most of the new ideas are implemented by the mods, and just agreed upon by Hiro.
>>393992
Hope you had a nice week! Come visit us more often Hiro, we really need you.
>>394115
Those people don't think 4chan has problems.
>>394126
/qa/ isn't the users, its a small minority of fucking newfags who are talking out of their stupid ignorant ass and trying to govern the site, because 'they know best'. Fuck off and kill yourself
>>394126
Who would want literal shitters from /qa/ to drive a website like 4chan?
mootocracy is million times better than random metawhining false-flagging shitmaestros pushing their agendas disguised as "people's will".
FUCK YOU. FUCK. YOU.
>>394134
No Reddit, once again /qa/ is mostly made up of people on 4chan who are concerned about the degrading quality of the site.
>>394126
Yes, but remember that 90% of the users you're talking about only browse a few boards and don't have enough meta knowledge to speak for the whole website, also remember that Hiro browses 4chan like everybody else, even when he isn't working, just because he replies to some people here on /qa/ it doesn't mean its a special snowflake board and posting here will make your voice be heard, Hiro goes to other boards and he probably already saw shit that wasn't even mentioned here
>But muh strawpolls
Also remember that all the new boards were created after Hiro visited other boards related to them, /aco/ existed not because of /qa/, but because of /co/ threads asking for a rule 34 board, same can be said about the other boards
>Them why the fuck would you come here?
Some people just like meta discussion, be it rules and moderation, board tans, etc, just because a giant wave of newfags who only came here after Hiro took over are shitposting the board with /q/posting it doesn't mean its the board's only purpose, /q/posting is barely scratching the surface of how much you can do with a meta board
>>394104
>I go for hunger games.
>And /trash/ IS another /b/. Stop deluding yourself.
The whole purpose of /trash/ is so that threads that aren't related to their homeboard have a place to be moved to, and by posting in hunger games threads, you are killing /trash/ just as much as the cloppers are.
I don't even see how you can be so hypocritical as to think YOUR trash that got you kicked off your home board is acceptable, but THEIR trash isn't. I absolutely hated hunger games threads because they're fucking stupid. Yet, you don't see me petitioning to ban them just because I don't like them.
>>394115
Maybe he would come here and post more often if with every post he didn't get 30 replies about LISTEN TO ME AND MY PROBLEMS
>>394134
You need to learn what the word 'newfag' means before you decide to throw it around.
>>394146
>, once again /qa/ is mostly made up of people on 4chan who are concerned about the degrading quality of the site.
AHAHAHA
No its not, the fucking board is mostly stupid redditors and newfags. If the people here gave a shit about their boards, they would be trying to get hiro on them, not fucking saying "DO X HIRO TRUST ME ITS GOOD FOR Y". Anyone trying to get hiro to change the site based on things said from /qa/ doesn't give two fucks about the actual site and only care about fueling their own personal usage, which is mainly shitposting for these sort of people
>>394148
>Yes, but remember that 90% of the users you're talking about only browse a few boards and don't have enough meta knowledge to speak for the whole website
The majority of the threads are asking for things specifically for their board.
>>394165
>REDDIT! NEWFAGS! ITS THOSE NEWFAG REDDITORS!
Calm down.
>>394164
What are you talking about, he used newfag corrrectly, newfags aren't just people new to 4chan as a whole, they can also be people who are new to individual boards or even generals
>>394168
And how can you be so sure that the people browsing these threads are from the boards? Its not like we are dealing with flags here where you can tell someone doesn't know shit about that country, nothing is stopping me from going to a thread related to /d/ or /a/ (boards i don't use) and say and suggest a bunch of stupid shit based on my limited visions of both boards, you can see that clearly on /mlp/ threads, where there are always retards who don't even use the fucking board suggest stupid shit
>>393985
Hiro, stop listening to /qa/, they're going to burn this site down to the ground.
How to fix /qa/:
>Anti duplicated thread rule, duplicated threads are deleted and can get you banned
>Sticky
>No rule 15 for specific things like screencaps, but still banning in case of shitposting ( for the sake of false flagging and actual ponyfag shitposters)
>Sticky explaining above, also the purpose of the board
>sticky also telling the users to use the feedback option (functional or not is going to keep some oblivious retards from making shitty threads)
Done, i just fixed the board
>>394177
>Please stop listening to the users! Be just like moot, and let the site go to shit!
Fuck off. Some of us don't want our boards to be fucking killed, and its not like we can say anything about it. You know as well as I do that mods always delete meta threads.
>>394173
You realize that more than one person can post in a thread, right? If you make a stupid uninformed suggestion, other people can argue against it.
>>394185
How to fix /qa/:
>delete it
>or nazi mod it
Not /q/
>>394192
>defending Nazi modding
Congratulations, you are the problem with 4chan. Go to SomethingAwful. I'm sure you'd be quite happy there.
>>394190
>If you make a stupid uninformed suggestion, other people can argue against it.
Didn't stopped the retards in this thread, and not everybody is going to listen to reason, some people are just too stupid to realize their opinions are uneducated and biased to look at different perspectives, there are people on this board right now who believe on the /pol/ invasion for example
>>394192
/q/posting is part of /qa/, like it or not, as chaotic as it may be it does create some nice discussion once in a while and it should be allowed, it just needs to be properly controlled so it doesn't go out of control
>>394190
Moots not doing anything is 10x better than hiro's listen to 1 or 2 people who don't even know what they are fucking talking about and make changes from those people for a site used by millions of people
>>394195
Pretty sure he meant more strict moderation lad, which in /qa/'s case wouldn't be that bad
>>394115
No, we would like you to stop using /qa/ as a feedback box since the site already has one, and then desperately begging Hiro to ban memes you don't like and create more useless boards for you every time he appears on the board.
There's a reason he doesn't post here very often anymore.
>>394202
>Didn't stopped the retards in this thread
From doing...what, exactly?
>>394195
There is nothing wrong with nazi modding when its actually needed to kill something. For example, nazi modding /v/ would kill a lot of its traffic and the majority of its culture, something in needs in some form that isn't stupid splits
>>394205
Nazi moderation has never been a good thing. It would be especially stupid to give the mods free reign to delete things here on /qa/, where half the complaints are about the mods themselves.
Do you not see how that creates a conflict of interests?
>>394208
The feedback box is fucking worthless. Unless you can get an actual conversation going with a mod or Hiro, you're just pissing in the wind.
>>394218
I'd rather you piss in the wind, then you shitting where people drink
>>394211
>For example, nazi modding /v/ would kill a lot of its traffic and the majority of its culture
Okay, thanks for sharing that? Yes, Nazi modding does kill boards. That is a bad thing.
>something in needs in some form that isn't stupid splits
Because nothing could be worse than making another board, right? We'll run out of internet!
>>394210
Meant it never stopped retards in this board from not being called in the first place, my bad
>>394211
/v/ is one of the big boards, pulling a /pol/ocaust on it would just make dedicated shitposters spam the board because "muh fight the powah", half of /v/ doesn't give a shit about fixing the board, the other half is too dumb to know what is best for it in the first place
>>394215
that would only happen if /q/posting was against the rules, which it isn't, mods aren't dictators, they are referees, they can't create their own rules, they can only distort rules to fit their own personal moral codes
>>394218
The feedback box is a "retard box", it helps against newfags trying to shit up the board with dumb suggestions, the same breed of retard that populates /qa/ right now, it may not bait people who are already here for a while but it will surely bait new users who think it actually works
>>394190
>>Please stop listening to the users!
/qa/ is not the users, it's a small subset of mostly [s4s] migrants, tripfag rejects, autistic rulefags from /a/ and /d/, and retard whiners from fast boards who have no idea how to run a website.
>>394218
Yeah, so let's mindlessly shittalk the mods on /d/'s super secret unlisted personal blog. That's sure gonna bring 'em out and open them up to alternative forms of moderation.
>>394221
Then you should stop drinking out of the toilet
>>393938
Why did Recent Posts disappear? They were always useful for finding interesting threads for boards you don't frequent, and now they're gone.
>>394227
There's more you can do with a meta board then fucking endlessly beg for retard changes
>>394226
You seem really triggered by /d/
>>394223
not the same guy but creating /vg/, /vr/ and /vp/ didn't fixed the board anyway, /vr/ became its own thing, /vg/ kinda of helped but many of the games discussed on it are also discussed on /v/ (plus it being a bunch of circlejerks) and /vp/ is just one big general, i've seen people suggesting shit like a nintendo board, a "weeb game" board and a video games community board, but /v/ itself is so big that the people posting on it would also post on the other board, you wouldn't split the community, just the content, people would still use both and both would be shit
>>394233
>, /vg/ kinda of helped
/vg/ only fueled general culture for the rest of the site. It didn't help anything
>>394223
>Board splitting will fix everything!
No it won't you retard. /v/ was split several times, and you only need to look at it's current state to see how well that's turned out. The only remotely good thing that came out of it was /vr/, and that board's pretty much dead to begin with.
>>394236
It helped by keeping some fotm away from /v/ after it growing too much, you see all those undertale threads? That was /vg/ failing at its purpose, that usually doesn't happen so much, at least not with games "not approved by /v/"
>>394233
You realize that those boards weren't created to "fix" /v/, right? They both had specific, very niche purposes.
I'm not sure you understand how popular video games are. They are far and away the most popular topic on the whole site, and they're growing in popularity every year. To put that in perspective, if you combine all the Japanese Culture, and the anime porn boards, that still doesn't reach the speed of /v/.
/v/ is many, many boards worth of content shoved into one board. That speed attracts even more people, as well as shitposters looking for a quick shitposting fix.
>>394244
>To put that in perspective, if you combine all the Japanese Culture, and the anime porn boards, that still doesn't reach the speed of /v/.
I wish people would stop spouting this. If you removed all the off topic posting and shitposting from /v/, it would become one of the slowest boards on the site
>>394244
>/v/ is many, many boards worth of content shoved into one board
That's how 4chan has ran for many years and thats how the majority of its users like it. You don't need to split it, its userbase needs to be culled
>>394239
Because creating a board for retro games will certainly stem the tide of people drawn in by modern video games' increasing popularity
Hey, now that all that Steven Universe stuff is popular, we need a board to stop it too. Let's make a Looney Tunes board! That'll help!
You seriously can't be this fucking dense.
when's /v/ split?
>>394251
That's what it needs, but that's not what's gonna happen. A split is the next best thing
>>394253
Never, kill yourself
You faggots scared him.
>>394256
>A split is the next best thing
No its fucking not. A split would only intensify the issue you fucking idiot, it won't fix or help anything.
>>394247
I wish you would stop spouting this.
>>394251
>That's how 4chan has ran for many years
4chan also had a smaller userbase
>thats how the majority of its users like it
And yet /v/ is one of the most complained about boards
>You don't need to split it
>its userbase needs to be culled
Yes, intentionally shrinking the site and reducing traffic will slow the board down.
Now I want you to suggest to hiro that he chase users off the site. I'm sure he'd be open to getting less money.
>>394252
I didn't say /vr/ was a good idea, I said it was the best result that came out of /v/'s multiple splits.
>>394257
Hi /v/'s cancer
>>394244
You're not getting it m8, like you said, /v/ is fast as fuck and it has a lot of people AND content to work with, but you can't just expect everybody from /v/ to use either one board or the other, there are going to be a lot of people using both, plus all the extra people from other boards also using the new board, if the board came as "the new, less worst /v/", this would only attract shitposters who would fuck with the board in the same way /qa/ was fucked months ago, you can't split /v/, you can only do something to decrease the traffic, but that would mean taking away the freedom /v/ loves so much, which i can guarantee you they won't allow, /v/ would rather have a shitty board just so they can continue to shitpost without giving a fuck, also these
>>394247
>>394251
>>394256
None of them help, actually, /pol/'s cuckening didn't fixed the board and /pol/ is smaller than /v/, you would just make the users leave for a while but they would slowly come back after hearing the board is back, as for splitting, what i said above
>>394260
If you can't see why a split is a good thing, then you really are retarded.
>>394258
was the /v/ shitposter asking for the board split.
>>394261
>/v/
>knowing what they want
We are talking about the same board that complains about reddit and /pol/ invasion, /v/ is easily the board with the blindest, most ignorant community you can find
Also there is no need for witch hunting, just something to make people calm the fuck down a bit, a lot of /v/ traffic is offtopic shitposting, and some people only do that because everybody else is doing anyway
>>394268
No, you are the retarded one. An anon in this thread has already given good reason why splits are stupid. Go refer to them
>>394278
I read your reason. It was retarded.
>>393938
I think it's cool and useful.
Not only does it show popular topics, site-wide, but it also gives you a chance to have a glimpse into other boards you don't really visit, potentially broadening your commonly board list if something catches your eye.
>>394285
It was already there though. All Hiro did was, rearrange some boards, remove Most Recent Posts and give Most Popular images.
>>394288
>it was already there though
But it wasn't. The other thing was latest posts and latest image posts. I'd imagine this takes into account posts per minute.
>>394292
There was, it just only showed the first few words of each sentence, and no pic.
>>394232
First time I've mentioned it ITT but yeah, I really don't like their /q/posting especially, sometimes it feels like half the board is shitty whiny walls of text spammed by one guy and all the replies are him bumping it, apparently the mods are autosaging a bunch of them so that's cool.
Nonetheless, /q/posting is annoying, useless shit mostly in that it often calls for unrealistic action on some trivial personal or vocal minority issue that the poster doesn't like clouding up their perfect hugbox, and dilutes actually good ideas and advice for the site in a torrent of "I don't like this BAN IT!" bullshit.
Also, it's amusing watching people make threads asking the mods to stop being dicks and then proceeding to exemplify everything that causes the mods to be dicks in the first place.
>>394292
It was there, you were just blind, anon.
>>394293
>>394296
That was the little blue window on the bottom right, right?
I've been here for nine years. Maybe I just totally misunderstood what that was for because I always knew what board I wanted anyway.
>>394000
thanks
How long has this been a thing?
>>394306
Do you have any other changes like this lined up, Hiro? Because I think this was pretty cool.
Hiro, please consider this thread >>393160.
As you can see, most people agreed in the creation of that board.
>>394313
Fuck off.
>>394317
No love for Sonichu?
>>394313
Hiro, could you please not take any suggestions from /qa/, such as this one here. Most people on the outside of it don't like most of the changes made from here. Site and board changes should only be done after asking actual boards of the site, not /qa/ which is mostly people with a agenda and don't really care about the board they are trying to govern
>>394320
This, i love this board, its fun for meta discussion besides /q/ shit, but i really wish you stopped coming here
>>394295
You're being massively hyperbolic, friend. When half the complaints are things like "please actually moderate my board" or "please stop deleting everything on my board," that's a pretty legitimate issue. That those complaints are being autosaged is just another example of the mod overreach.
>Also, it's amusing watching people make threads asking the mods to stop being dicks and then proceeding to exemplify everything that causes the mods to be dicks in the first place.
Again, you're being hyperbolic. There's nothing that "causes" the mods to be dicks. The fact of the matter is that the mods have more responsibility to use their power for the benefit of the site than an individual user does, since a mod's actions affect more people. As >>394225 says, mods aren't dictators. They're supposed to enforce rules, not make them, yet time and time again we see that that is not the case.
>>394306
Hiro, are you making any more changes soon?
>>394320
>Most people on the outside of it don't like most of the changes made from here.
Which are?
>Site and board changes should only be done after asking actual boards of the site, not /qa/
I agree with this completely. He needs to enable a meta-thread on boards with pressing issues and allow people to actually discuss it to find out what needs to be done.
>which is mostly people with a agenda and don't really care about the board they are trying to govern
That's a pretty bold statement, though. Do you have anything to back that up?
>>393985
>>394067
>anti duplicate thread rule
this
>>394015
not this
>>394324
Uh, what? He definitely needs to keep coming here. You remember moot, right? Moot refused to actually communicate with the users, and look where it got us.
One of the biggest complaints about 4chan is that the mods refuse to listen to the users, or even communicate with us outside of bans.
>>394336
>That's a pretty bold statement, though. Do you have anything to back that up?
Different guy here, there are occasions when the individuals don't actually browse the board but still go around spreading either incomplete or just copy pasted arguments and opinions about said boards, besides your average "delete thing cause i don't like it" there is also the that guy who only hard about that thing about that board from someone else and suddendly he acts like he knows what is best for that board, which does happens once in a while, there are also of course people who want to fuck with boards they don't browse just to improve their own boards because they don't care about those boards
>>394341
Hiro can continue to come here, he just can't (or at least shouldn't) directly reply to people, he is allowed to take ideas from /qa/ as much as he wants, but before doing anything he should publicly consult the boards being affected so he can make sure /qa/ isn't full of shit, we solve the "voices being heard" issue and save /qa/ at the same time
>>394035
Not a good idea. /pol/, /b/, and /r9k/ act as containment boards for their variety of cancer, /v/ and /tv/ just need less shitty moderation, and the rest are memey but should be left alone (except for waifushitters on /tv/ and /mu/)
>>394306
Hiroyuki, can you please be more active and try to take some control over the site? 4chan needs more communication between the moderators and the users.
I know you administrated 2ch for years, I'm sure you can clean up 4chan and get rid of the current shitposting epidemic.
>>394336
>That's a pretty bold statement, though. Do you have anything to back that up?
I can confirm. I don't browse /qa/ at all, but I have
http://desustorage.org/_/search/capcode/admin/
bookmarked and I check for Hiro's activity twice a day, in the hopes of catching him and tricking him into enacting my hidden agendas.
>>394306
Hi Hiro! Happy Boxing Day!
I hope you got your internet fixed up. I really look forward to seeing you fix /co/ someday by removing all 3DPD /cpsht/ from it.
>>394035
Kill yourself weeaboo cunt
>>394306
Hiro please tell me you've seen some of the major threads on here.
>>394341
No, he needs to stop coming here. Instead of coming here, he needs to go to the actual boards of the site. I love how whenever its suggested that hiro should stop coming here, retards go "BUT HIRO SHOULD LISTEN TO ANONS DONT BE MOOT", like as if there isn't actual fucking boards on the site he can actually go to and use and hear the actual users of the site. /qa/ isn't the fucking voice of reason for 4chan and taking suggestions for the site from here is no different to doing it on /b/
>>394357
Fuck off
>>394357
Don't worry, he is already considering the Sonichu board.
>>394347
>Hiro can continue to come here, he just can't (or at least shouldn't) directly reply to people,
But then we get to the exact same problem we had with moot: everyone shouting at a wall of silence that never actually does anything.
>before doing anything he should publicly consult the boards being affected so he can make sure /qa/ isn't full of shit
I agree with this, though. The best thing would be to open a thread on the affected board, then crosslink it on /qa/ to confirm that the request has been opened.
>save /qa/ at the same time
There's nothing to save, though? Unless you're concerned for [s4s]'s secret clubhouse, I guess.
>>394364
Wow, rude.
Who hurt you?
>>394358
Do you think Hiro is going to go to /tg/? Or /co/?
If you take away a platform for the less visible boards, then its going to be EXACTLY the same as moot. The only boards that actually get any attention will be /a/ and maybe /jp/, or /v/ if things get bad enough.
It would be ideal if he'd do rounds to every single board on the site, but as we've seen in the past, that literally never happens.
>>394367
>But then we get to the exact same problem we had with moot: everyone shouting at a wall of silence that never actually does anything.
This is a good thing under this context, people shouldn't come to /qa/ expecting change in the first place, if people start sticking around because they are interested in meta discussion rather than "We can do it, Hiro senpai will notice us" they will start fucking listening and stop saying stupid shit, quality of posting in general will increase because the people populating this board are going to actually give a fuck about learning before talking about this subject in particular
>There's nothing to save, though? Unless you're concerned for [s4s]'s secret clubhouse, I guess.
There is still a small part of the community that gives a fuck about /qa/, [s4s] shit is there but some people just come here because they enjoy meta discussion (even if 90% is /q/ shit anyway) and i can guarantee you others will come back when they discover /qa/ is "back from the dead"
>>394374
>comes to a metaboard
>expecting anything but autism
Ask me how i know you're a newfag
>>394379
It never stops being amusing
>>394319
We don't need more autists trying to ruin his life, he does that well enough on his own.
>>394320
>telling hiroshima to not take suggestions from /qa/
>while posting a suggestion on /qa/
Wall of autism ahead.
For better or worse, this is his attempt at connecting with the site at large. Personally, I see 2 issues with Hiro mainly taking his suggestions from /qa/.
>1. Ineffective/inaccurate representation of boards.
This is largely due to this both being a hidden board and having a relatively small userbase. Since the board is hidden, this means that this board is relatively well insulated to new users, since it doesn't appear on the front page of the site, and thus stops new blood from entering the board. The small userbase just reinforces this and insulates it further.
>2. Inability to accurately measure the real demand of /r/equests and /q/uestions.
This is mostly due to the site lacking a built-in polling device, and how insecure most polling devices actually are. Due to the lack of site-wide polling capabilities, people frequently use Strawpoll for polling. It's really easy to just spam proxies to shift the vote in a certain direction.
As a result of both of these, it's relatively easy to make it look like there's a widespread demand for something, when there actually isn't.
>>394372
It's not happening because you screaming retards keep bringing him back here instead of letting and encouraging him to roam the actual boards. You only have yourself to fucking blame
>>394378
>>But then we get to the exact same problem we had with moot: everyone shouting at a wall of silence that never actually does anything.
>This is a good thing under this context
Woah there. You can't be defending moot's Fisher King stance on the site.
You need to understand that most people only care about the meta aspects of their board when there's something wrong with it. It's the same as with IRL politics: most of the time it's background noise to the majority until something goes tits up.
The problem with /qa/ is that you have a lot of people from other boards trying to get attention for their board, and the few "old /qa/" posters who don't want that. So you have those "old /qa/" users trying to shrug off the issues of the rest of the site just so they can have a clubhouse board. It's going to cause conflict on both sides.
I agree that Hiro needs to take a more proactive approach to addressing each board individually, but right now /qa/ is filling a vital function for the site at large.
>>394306
>multiple correct solutions required
ive only made four posts today you fucking kike
>>394399
Fuck off.
>>394401
FUCK YOU CAPCTHA DEFENDING KIKE
SUCK JOOGLES COCK HARDER
>>394397
My point is that /qa/ doesn't need to help the website, it can just be its own thing that happens to indirectly do that anyway, even if mods ignored this board there would be crossposters and newfags who would come here, be informed by whatever we say, and go back to their own boards and "spread the word", so in any way the board would already help, what makes /qa/ worst is the idea of it being the Luke Skywalker of 4chan, the board that will save us all, this only brings the worst kind of people here and makes the board worst for everybody, if you only come here to shitpost about how your board is going to shit without bothering to check if that is true, them you should seriously fuck off already
>>394306
please remove furry porn and ponies off of /trash/
>>393985
New people discover 4chan through the front page. This only allow them to shit up every thread with decent discussion. It's not useful for us, it's useful for newfags.
>>394306
please remove ponies from /trash/
>>394383
Ideally Hiro would make a meta-thread for each board.
Currently mods delete any and all meta-threads, so /qa/ is the only place people can voice their opinions. So you need people to not only know about /qa/, but be willing to stay around and post about it.
Like politics, its about who has the most driven voters. Ideally you would get fully representative vote, but unless you actually take the time to try and get it, you're just going to be polling the people who care the most.
It's much better when you can get an actual thread going on the affected boards, because then you get the actual opinions of the majority of the board.
>>393985
make /oven/ for mlp and furries
>>394404
>My point is that /qa/ doesn't need to help the website, it can just be its own thing that happens to indirectly do that anyway
And my point is that /qa/ is currently doing what it needs to do. We don't need a blue /b/.
>there would be crossposters and newfags who would come here, be informed by whatever we say, and go back to their own boards and "spread the word"
Spread the word of what? How? How would it help anything?
Hiro do you think you can set up a reliable way to communicate with you? An email or something?
>>394412
This is actually the best suggestion I've seen on /qa/ so far.
I think /oven/ should have shitting dick nipples or goatse or [insert disgusting shit here] in the background and shitty background music just to piss them all off.
>>394419
>And my point is that /qa/ is currently doing what it needs to do.
Yes but this is bringing the wrong crowd and making the overall quality of posting worst
>We don't need a blue /b/.
But we need a metaboard, you can't discuss meta on any other board right now
>Spread the word of what? How? How would it help anything?
When i mean spreading the word i mean whatever ideals, concepts or just opinions they hear here, if i started defending this one thing and used arguments X and Y, even if mods didn't do what i said, someone would see them, and when someone else confront them they would use these arguments they heard because they are both the truth and strong, sometimes all it takes is one person with strong arguments to completely change the way thousands of people think, and doing the above with help with that
>>394423
they would block that with user css pretty quickly
better to have a full auschwitz theme, arbeit macht frei banner and all. maybe animated gas or flames at the bottom of the page
>>394428
This is fucking art.
Hiro, get the fuck off of your ass and make /oven/ for the furfags and ponyfags to burn in.
>>394406
I think this is limited, because every time you refresh the page, there are new threads.
>>394411
>Ideally Hiro would make a meta-thread for each board.
I'm a bit mixed on this. I can see it being much easier for moderators/Hiro to read and summarize what's going on in each respective board, but a lot of people/boards hate forced stickies just hanging around [spoiler]even though they could just filter them out if they didn't want to pay attention to them, but whatever[/spoiler].
Ah well, if it does ever happen, you can guarantee a much wider response than virtually anything this board will ever get.
>>394439
Kek, i can guarantee shitposting and false flagging would be everywhere, with extra failed strawpolls and memes everywhere
>>394427
>Yes but this is bringing the wrong crowd and making the overall quality of posting worst[sic]
There is a big difference between "Here is what is wrong with my board, please fix it" and the thousandth "Make Reddit not be mean to anime!" or "xfags will NEBBER EBBER get x" thread. There is a clear difference in intent, and the mods should actually delete those shitposts rather than letting them stay.
>But we need a metaboard, you can't discuss meta on any other board right now
I agree with that. That's why people come here.
>When i mean spreading the word i mean whatever ideals, concepts or just opinions they hear here
See, the problem with this is, like you said, you can't talk about metatopics on other boards.
Now he just needs to remove that cancerous longcat banner.
>>394443
That also came to mind. Still, you'd end up with a far more representative sample-size of the boards, and I can't really get a better idea to come to mind right now that'd avoid those things.
>>394445
By "wrong crowd" i mean people who come here expecting results all the time and who keep spamming and samefagging so Hiro can see them, we don't need this shit, if Hiro is going to listen to us or not is up to him, but getting rid of those "suggestion box" fags will make people actually discuss those subjects, find consensus, learn, and maybe even solutions to the issues, but first we need to get rid of the cancer that only came here to shit up the board and doesn't care about the "hobby"
>See, the problem with this is, like you said, you can't talk about metatopics on other boards.
And /qa/ can be the place for that, in the same way ponies are a /mlp/ thing and politics is (mostly) a /pol/ or /int/ thing, /qa/ doesn't need to be a containment board for meta discussion, but being the safe haven where talking about your board is not only allowed by recommended is good for the board itself, but without the above the only kind of people who will stick around are the kind of people i already mentioned
>>394446
>cancerous
Fuck off, longcat is wonderful.
>>394454
I'm trying to make you understand, though. Meta discussion isn't a "hobby." People are going to come here specifically when they have a problem with their board, precisely because there's no other outlet for it. If you want fewer posts asking for change, then it's better to look towards ways of addressing those issues in a more timely manner. There needs to be more communication between hiro, the mods, and the users. That's the only way to make less people try to get that attention.
>>394463
I see what you mean, but "fixing" 4chan would take too long, we need a way to help /qa/ right now rather than just waiting for Hiro to do shit while watching this board go to shit, which is why i suggest at least controlling the amount of /q/ posting for the sake of variety, make sure this is not going to distract people too much and make them forget this board is more than just that, i can't describe how much it would suck if suddenly everybody forgot old /qa/ and started acting like it never existed, i don't want /qa/ to end like /v/, if you know what i mean
>>394466
>I see what you mean, but "fixing" 4chan would take too long
>we need a way to help /qa/ right now rather than just waiting for Hiro to do shit while watching this board go to shit
Which, again, comes to the crux of the matter: people are more interested in metaposting when they have a problem to solve, so its always going to be the most popular topic.
You yourself are doing exactly what you're complaining about everyone else doing.
Considering that /qa/ has come to be the meta discussion board, and that "helping /qa/" means getting rid of that meta discussion, I can't really see why that would be a desirable outcome for anybody but the [s4s] "comfy" crew
What if for the time being we reinstated the textboards, and allowed those to encompass both the board topic and meta-discussion?
>>394528
ITT
>>393985
You know what would be even more useful? A board or rule change to get rid of the off-topic superhero threads on /co/.
>>394580
Fuck off
>>393985
[b]Hey, Hiro.[/b]
Can we have [b]bold[/b] and [i]italic[/i] tags?
>>394624
Fuck off
>>394624
I this is a pretty neat idea.
We used to have this on the old text boards after all.
>>394624
Fuck off, we don't need that shit. It's useless clutter and will only ever be used for shitposting. Image boards don't need that shit, it belongs on text boards and forums
>>394648
I think it's a neat idea, and we are a forum. A forum by definition is a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
Shitposting is just a buzzword for "things I don't like", if you're going to argue at least use reason and logic instead of crying about a bogeyman.
It will make posts neater and more readable when used appropriately and it's not like bold and italic tags can be abused any more than posting text can be abused.
>>393985
>hiroyuki ## Admin
Please remove the rest of the words from the word filter.
Thanks.
>>394677
This.
I've had so many URLs corrupted because of the silly word filters.
And people are just using alternatives like "tbqh", "smdh", and "family."
>>394669
You damn well knew what I meant by forum.
>Shitposting is just a buzzword for "things I don't like",
Oh wow, you can't be serious? There is a clear difference between complaining about things you don't like and shitposting and you fucking know it. Greentexting is already misused and used for shitposting, we don't need to add more fuel to the flame. There is also no real need for the tags either. On a text board? Yea, they are a great idea, but not on a image board. We don't need em. It doesn't make posts neater nor more readable and it isn't a feature that's actually needed. They will just be abused and there is no need for the tags either as there are already ways to present the same effect without them
>>394677
Fuck off.
>>393985
get rid of it doesn't help the site at all, only decreases the quality of the threads
>>394722
No it doesn't.
At least remove the shuttle photo and longcat.
>>394581
If you don't want to talk about comics or cartoons then you shouldn't be making threads on /co/.
/tv/, /v/, /vg/, /cgl/ etc... already exist so there's no point making a new board, but you faggots are too retarded to use them.
>>394736
Don't fucking reply to Hiro with unrelated shit. That drives him away, and I now think more highly of the group you disagree with.
>>393985
The front page isn't useful. Change it back faggot.
>>393938
>First homepage redesign in almost a decade.
Wasn't it updated just a few months ago with the addition of Atlantis and then longcat?
>>394743
It isn't useful in either format. I honestly don't care which way it is as I never use it
>>394742
>Don't fucking reply to Hiro with unrelated shit
Talking to the owner of 4chan about 4chan is unrelated shit?
>That drives him away
Says who?
It looks decent, but no one is going to use it while the malware ads remain on it
>>394742
But he keeps replying to us.
>>394748
>Talking to the owner of 4chan about 4chan is unrelated shit?
And here is the reason moot preferred to post as anon instead of sticking his trip or admin tag on every post
>>394748
>Talking to the owner of 4chan about 4chan is unrelated shit?
Yes when his post, and this thread is about the front page redesign, and the front page redesign only.
>Says who?
Him saying his internet is out, but keeps replying whenever there's a pressing issue? He's just trying to be nice, his internet IS working.
>>394752
He's stopped doing that, thank god.
>>394756
That's why admin posts, mod posts and public bans should be more commonplace so that they don't derail every thread they're seen in, but that's just my two cents.
I'd rather there be open conversation between the staff and users but that's not gonna happen with the current mods in place.
>>394759
Admins post to interact with their community, not fucking listen to people whine about inane bullshit. Keep the inane bullshit at the very least on fucking topic
>>394758
His post was about something being more useful, it's relevant to talk about other useful suggestions.
>Him saying his internet is out, but keeps replying whenever there's a pressing issue? He's just trying to be nice, his internet IS working.
So you're assuming that he's been driven away by whatever you don't like?
>>394624
Hey, Hiro.
Can we have bold and it
>>394764
Then superheros are related to /co/ because they're comic book based. (I don't know I don't browse /co)
>So you're assuming that he's been driven away by whatever you don't like?
Do you honestly believe his internet is out, when he just so happens to reply to every actual important thread, and the "what happened to hiro" ones?
>>394761
>>394766
>>394770
It's not going to work, you fucking moron
>>394770
What? Why can I use italic and bold text on /b/ but not here?
eg. >>>/b/659661398
>>394773
I tested it on /b/ and it works fine?
>>394777
And these are the sort of people asking for stupid shit on /qa/
>>394771
That's the logic behind it, for comic fans to talk about comic adaptions, but that's no longer the case. It's not relevant if you're going to ignore the comic aspect and just talk about movies, tv shows and games because you don't want to go to the appropriate board.
>Do you honestly believe his internet is out, when he just so happens to reply to every actual important thread, and the "what happened to hiro" ones?
So a thread is only important if Hiro replies to it?
>>394771
>when he just so happens to reply to every actual important thread,
Would you rather he reply to the unimportant ones?
>>394780
And your post isn't relevant because you're ignoring the discussion aspect, which is NOT about things that could be improved, it's about the front page.
>So a thread is only important if Hiro replies to it?
A quick search in the archive shows in the past month, he replied to this thread, the one that got cuck unfiltered, and the one about malware on the front page. Seeing how there are 14 /pol/s, and 16 reddits on /qa/ right now, I'm going to say yes.
>>394783
What?
>>394783
Yes. I'd rather hiro to not talk about change and rather talk to the users about things like him and whatever is the board topic. Stop asking for change out of a stupid ignorant newfag
>>394786
>you're ignoring the discussion aspect, which is NOT about things that could be improved, it's about the front page
The discussion was why Hiro changed something and the response was >>393985, it's a matter of perspective.
>A quick search in the archive shows in the past month, he replied to this thread, the one that got cuck unfiltered, and the one about malware on the front page. Seeing how there are 14 /pol/s, and 16 reddits on /qa/ right now, I'm going to say yes
Well in the Q&A he was in favour of making /cpsht/, so that's important by your logic.
>>394786
He replied to the malware thread? What'd he say?
>>394798
>it's a matter of perspective
Same with superheros.
>Well in the Q&A he was in favour of making /cpsht/, so that's important by your logic
Answering questions in a Q&A on a site he's never been on before! *gasp* This clearly high priority stuff right here.
He used to reply to everything. He doesn't now.
>>394801
http://desustorage.org/qa/thread/362590/#363883
>>394802
>Same with superheros
Except that live-action superhero movies & tv shows and superhero video games aren't comics or cartoons in any way, shape or form.
>Answering questions in a Q&A on a site he's never been on before! *gasp* This clearly high priority stuff right here.
So it's high priority when you deem it to be? Gotcha. Also, he said he'd been on the site before.
>He used to reply to everything
Not really.
>>394798
>Well in the Q&A he was in favour of making /cpsht/, so that's important by your logic.
Hiro in the Q&A thought 4chan is le anonmouse jaxor and le memes. He said that because he thought of treating the site like 2chan. It's not
>>394803
But it didn't work, and he has not replied since
>>394758
OP starts a conversation. They don't set the topic.
>>394805
>Except that live-action superhero movies & tv shows and superhero video games aren't comics or cartoons in any way, shape or form.
They literally are though, as they're essentially comic book characters and stories rendered in a different format. If they made a Rick & Morty videogame, would everyone be saying >>>/tv/?
>So it's high priority when you deem it to be? Gotcha.
So if the CEO of Nintendo answered questions at a Q&A, it would be as important as him personally responding to your letter? Gotcha.
>Not really.
I'm exaggerating to make a point. You know what I mean.
>>394811
Don't know what to tell ya.
>>394812
Yes, it's only natural that threads change their discussion as time goes on, but that doesn't happen after three posts.
>>394812
Yes, but trying to forcefully change the topic about something completely different is not just retarded, its also rude. Demanding change from something because the admin showed up makes you a fucking moron
>>394816
I'm not normally one to say "BOARD CULTURE" but do you honestly think you can expect 4chan users to not be rude?
>>394816
Not him, and I agree, but it shouldn't surprise anyone. With how impossible it is to get in touch with the administration (no email anymore, feedback page hasn't been updated for months, hiro doesn't post very often), they grasp at whatever chance they get to try and get their worries heard.
>>394820
>but do you honestly think you can expect 4chan users to not be rude?
Stop using /b/ as your example of what 4chan is. The site isn't as abusive as you think it is
>>394815
>They literally are though, as they're essentially comic book characters and stories rendered in a different format
Exactly, they're different mediums. It's a comics and cartoons board, you cant justify casting and cosplay threads just because it's tangentially related to comics.
>If they made a Rick & Morty videogame, would everyone be saying >>>/tv/?
No, they should say >>>/v/ because it would be a video game and not a cartoon.
>So if the CEO of Nintendo answered questions at a Q&A, it would be as important as him personally responding to your letter?
Well if it's going to be the CEO and company's official stance on an issue, yes.
>>394824
So do you just never leave /po/?
>>394830
I'm an /a/non. Again, the site isn't as abusive as you think it is. People are quick to shit fling and throw insults, but they aren't straight up cunts for no reason constantly. Stop visiting shit boards with a tainted view of what the site is
>>394834
I'm glad you fit in with the board you call home. Do you think naruto fans consider /a/ to not be "abusive"?
>>394836
Anyone who acts like a stupid newfag and an idiot deserves all the abuse they get
>>394838
Well there you go.
4chan is abusive.
Everybody looks like a newfag sometimes, and if they never do, they never step outside their comfort zone so they never grow.
Which I guess describes most of /a/ doesn't it?
>>394825
>Exactly, they're different mediums. It's a comics and cartoons board, you cant justify casting and cosplay threads just because it's tangentially related to comics.
Yes, you can. I can talk about Scarlett Johansson on /tv/.
>No, they should say >>>/v/ because it would be a video game and not a cartoon.
They should, but how many would?
>Well if it's going to be the CEO and company's official stance on an issue, yes.
No it's not. The reason why I used Nintendo is because he likely gets letters from a bunch of eight year olds all day, the kind who would ask questions at a Q&A. The whole point of a Q&A is to ask questions you normally wouldn't get an answer too.
>>394839
Fucking hell you are stupid.
>Everybody looks like a newfag sometimes, and if they never do, they never step outside their comfort zone so they never grow.
No, people really don't. Not every looks like a newfag, because not everyone goes out and acts like a stupid moron and they also actually fucking lurk. Being a newfag has nothing to do with getting out of your comfort zone, stop projecting.
Stop formating your posts like that as well, you fucking redditor
>>394841
>Yes, you can. I can talk about Scarlett Johansson on /tv/.
Your thread would probably be deleted.
>They should, but how many would?
Not that many, video game threads aren't a dominating presence like /tv/ threads. But I did see it a fair few times when the newest Arkham game had about 10 threads in the catalog.
>The whole point of a Q&A is to ask questions you normally wouldn't get an answer too
But that wasn't the point of the Q&A with Hiro.
>>394843
For somebody who's taking the position that 4chan isn't abusive, you sure are being exclusionary, accusatory, and insulting.
>>394853
You seem to have missed every I've said in my posts, but I'll forgive you. As you're a fucking idiot
>>394850
>Your thread would probably be deleted.
No it wouldn't. See how simple that was?
?Not that many, video game threads aren't a dominating presence like /tv/ threads. But I did see it a fair few times when the newest Arkham game had about 10 threads in the catalog.
Arkham =/= Rick and Morty. There's a reason I chose that show.
>But that wasn't the point of the Q&A with Hiro.
Then what was it?
>>394854
I didn't miss anything. I disagree with you. 4chan is abusive.
>>394854
You can't even avoid insulting people long enough to defend the point that 4chan isn't "abusive". Pitiful.
>>394859
Once anon made it was obvious he was an idiot, I treated him like one
>>394855
>No it wouldn't. See how simple that was?
>2. All actress and actor discussion should pertain directly to their roles and careers. Off-topic discussion will be deleted.
If the thread is just about Scarlett Johansson, it'll probably get deleted.
>Arkham =/= Rick and Morty
>There's a reason I chose that show
Doesn't change the fact that at least some people will rightly say that threads about video games belong on /v/.
>Then what was it?
Introducing the site's new owner as well addressing any concerns and criticism people may have.
>>394866
>If the thread is just about Scarlett Johansson, it'll probably get deleted
But within context, it's allowed.
>Doesn't change the fact that at least some people will rightly say that threads about video games belong on /v/.
How many, two?
>Introducing the site's new owner as well addressing any concerns and criticism people may have.
>as well addressing any concerns and criticism people may have
Because this wouldn't be able to be done any other time.
>>394870
>>394866
>>394850
>>394841
>>394825
>>394824
>>394815
>>394807
>>394805
>>394798
>tiny piece of the post
Nuh uh.
>second tiny piece of the paragraph
Question?
>third tiny piece of the post
No I disagree
>big chunk of the post
Because you're wrong.
>additional fisking
You're an idiot. Go back to reddit.
>Greentext
I think that anybody cares what I have to say!
>the final piece of the post
I can't synthesize a point from all the pieces so I'm forced to take each individual piece down one at a time and explode the argument into thousands of sub arguments!
>>394870
>But within context, it's allowed
If it pertains directly to her roles and career, sure. But you cant just say "ScarJo thread, go!" and expect it not to be deleted (unless the moderation is lax for some reason).
>How many, two?
Depends on how many people see the thread and care enough to post on it. It wouldn't be "everyone" like you asked about in >>394815.
>Because this wouldn't be able to be done any other time
Hey, I'm just saying that that was the main reason for the Q&A.
>popular threads
>/vg/
Very good for porn.
>>394306
You ever gonna put /pol/ user mods on /pol/ so we can stop bitching here about our problems. We're the fourth largest board and the lest you can do is put one mod thats not some faggot.
How does it determine "Popular threads"?
I clicked through one and it had 29 replies in around 20 hours. Granted, it was on /biz/ but still I'd imagine there were more popular threads there currently up
