FTM ONLY. Post pictures of yourself and get feedback on how well you pass. Brutal honesty preferred but only when it comes to passing ability or lack thereof (i.e. dont shit on someone for being unattractive because that isn't the point).
We already have /ftmg/ and /passgen/. Why do we need another thread
Who here flies under the gaydar
Besides my insatiable desire to boink cute boys in their cute fuzzy butts I'm indistinguishable from your typical dude bro.
I feel like some gay gays ignore me because they don't consider trying because I don't come off as homo.
>>5709275
No one guesses that I'm gay because I'm a chubby guy with a beard that loves hockey and beer.
I don't make a conscious effort to come off as gay or straight one way or another I just try to be myself.
We're actually the majority, the only reason you feel this way is because we aren't instantly recognizable as gay, etc. etc.
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Old thread >>5708938
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>>5709831
my edition
>>5709834
>implying your vote counts
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Last thread >>5707745
First
>you will never pass
>>5708935
I'm an expert, I've once dated both of them.
>tfw masculine cavemanish fivehead
>tfw small deep set eyes
>tfw apeish brow bossing
>tfw big nose
>tfw weird balding-like hairline even though I am not balding
>tfw enormous feet and hands
>tfw ugly square chin
>tfw old dudeish vascular hands
>tfw pancake flat manbutt
>tfw you will always have ugly Popeye sized square elbows
>tfw you will always have ugly massive square knees
>tfw you will always have a narrow pelvis
>tfw you will always have wide shoulders
>tfw you will always have a large ribcage
>tfw too tall to be cute and petite (5'11)
>tfw hormones changed my face changed from handsome guy to ugly weird-looking man
It wasn't this bad a couple of years back before puberty ruined me beyond repair and in fact I looked androgynous and had many soft features as a kid but not anymore. This is so unfair I want to scream at the top of my lungs because thanks to four years of bathing in testosterone I will have to spend the rest of my life as a masculine forever hon.
"bathing in testosterone"
How old are you senpai?
You sound hot.
>be me
>be gay
>female friends are talking about how guys who send them dick pics
>they all think it's gross
>they're all "straight" too
What do """"straight"""" women even like about men? They all seem to be repulsed by their bodies and sexuality. It makes me feel sad because I guarantee I could be a better lover than most but i was born with inferior boypucci.
You were born with an anus? Be glad. People not born with one have it bad.
Btw the only ones that like dic pics are gay dudes. Primarily because guys can see one body part and become aroused. Women cant. In my experience it's pretty easy to be a female and get laid with other females. Whatever their orientation. Just be relatively ok looking, be nice to them, make them aware you are gay and they suddenly interpret everything you do around them as you wanting to fuck. Which you might. And you can. Women are flattered by the idea an even average woman might want her. Excites them and makes them feel attractive, speshul. It's ez pz to get laid as an average woman. Getting a relationship is substantially harder.
It's biology, dude. It's literally a natural thing for a woman to lust after a male for reproductive reasons.
That said, most of the straight women I know are thirsty as FUCK for cock. Not all straight women are repulsed by dick.
>>5708825
I really hope you're just baiting, bro.
>>5708861
Being a good looking tomboy lez is really this easy.
So I'm in a situation right now, where I'm quite possibly the most problematic element.
I'm a 23 year old gay guy who hates gay people and the gay scene. I'm not straight acting, and I don't deny who I am, I just mind my own fucking bussiness. I've been single for 6 years, and only had the occasional one-night stand. Mainly oral. I was raped once by an older guy, whom I blackmailed into getting tested for HIV afterwards. Ever since then my sex drive was on the low, and I didn't really try to get to know guys much.
Trying to make this short:
- I lost my brother a couple of months ago. He was very young (younger than 30).
- His death made me realize that I have to get out and live life, and experience the things that interest me.
- I want to have a healthy life, and that includes a healthy sexual and emotional life too, so I decided to up my game and get to know people.
- Met up this guy. He is 34, very nice body, kind, delightfully aggressive and initiates stuff without any problems. We didn't specify our intentions for each other, we just met up a couple of times, had sex, watched movies, talked, went on trips, We had a good time, and that was okay with me.
- He cheated on his previous BF, because their sex life was on the decline. He confessed the cheating, and declined to repair the relationship when his ex offered a second chance.
- The guy he cheated with is one of his good friends andthey meets up from time to time. When I expressed concern, he told me to not worry at all, because they won't have sex again.
- We scheduled a date for friday and saturday (as we always do), but when I offer to see him for a couple of minutes or to go with him to the bus station (I live near his workplace) he always rejects me, saying that we should stick to the schedule.
I am concerned. I admit that the problem is me. I am insecure and I have a hard time trusting this. It doesn't feel okay, somehow I have a bad feeling about this whole thing.
Ask claraifications if needed.
>>5708444
Bump goddamnit.
>>5708444
- The majority of people on this planet, straight or gay, are or were at one some point cheaters.
- It is not true that someone who cheated once will cheat again, nor does it mean that they are more likely to cheat.
- Very few relationships last forever. Most relationships don't even last more than a few months. It is highly unlikely that you will find a lasting relationship immediately out of the dating gate.
- Communication and honesty are essential to any healthy relationship.
Basically: you should express your worries to him and discuss what you could each do to build trust and help you feel more secure in the relationship. If you feel like you are still too emotionally fragile to handle the possibility of infidelity or anything else breakup-worthy, you shouldn't be dating in the first place. If dating is doing you more emotional harm than it is emotional good, you need to take a step back and reevaluate.
>>5708552
We are meeting tomorrow, and wanted to make things clear. I don't want to attack him though, but I suspct that this will end in a break up. It saddens me.
Sorry if this question has been asked alot
but how does one come out (as trans) to parents, what to say and what to do if they react a certain way, also your experience with coming out?
any help appreciated
>>5708269
Just think of all the bad things they put you through and then just think about how much it will break there hearts.If you have cool parents then everything will go just fine.
need more answers desu senpai
would you?
>>5708042
would I what? you have to be clear with these things anon god
>>5708042
yup
why does every ftm have bad tattoos?
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Am i the only gay guy here that doesn't hate trans?
Why do gay's hate trans?
> I hate fucking fairy gay faggots
> Why?
> U NO FAIRY
>>5707986
Because everyone hates trans, including gays, the funny thing is gays hate trans less than the average people, so it's all a matter of perspective
>>5707990
See, That i don't believe, I never hear a bad thing about trans here in britfag land, unless it's from a faggot fairy.
My 2 main theories are that Gay men are almost over in terms of legal rights so the next big thing is trannies, they are not ready to be out of the spot light and take to working to more social acceptance (where the black community is atm) so they act out aganist them
The other reason is Because transwomen (the ones they hate) have an easier time fucking the straights and as we all know gay men love straight men
>tfw master of submission
How old were you when you found out you liked getting it rough and hard?
>>5708014
I was 24 when I found out, still a few twinkly years left :p
Can porn alter your sexual preference permanently? Or is it only the result of porn addiction?
>>5707620
no, you were always a fag OP
Permanently? As in, your sexual preference was impermanent before and porn solidified it on some result?
Doubt it. But I can see porn altering it impermanently, 'permanent' to the extent that your environment and actions are 'permanently' perpetuated.
E.g. Furries aren't born furries.
Why haven't a group of trans people and/or allies come together to help transmen and women with the financial side of monitored, safe transitioning? It seems to me that the reason a lot of uninsured trans people (especially MTF) resort to self-meddling because of the high costs of seeing a qualified therapist. I feel like that shouldn't be a thing in 2016.
I know for FTM, there is a foundation for helping to cover the costs of top surgery (and maybe bottom surgery/hysto?). That's pretty cool, imo, but I think it'd be great for something more inclusive to help cover the costs of seeing a therapist and hormones and SRS for all trans people.
What gives, society?
>>5707090
Why haven't you done it yourself? Be an activist. Fundraise. Wave the flag of social justice and get some shekels thrown to you. Or, just sit here and shitpost about your feels and how society's bad for not helping people with a thing like this.
>>5707090
>I feel like that shouldn't be a thing in 2016.
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>>5707090
>In a world where money needs to be raised to fight real diseases like Ebola, Cancer and AIDS, why haven't people raised money to help people fulfill a sexuality issue?
It's a mystery OP.
Do people transition as an alternative to gender nonconforming? Are there people out there who are transitioning to align themselves with what is expected, rather than to quell dysphoria?
Conversely, are people who would otherwise transition being scared off by a hostile social climate? Would these same people readily transition in a friendlier world?
I made a short survey to find out what this board thinks: (The system thinks this is spam, so I'll post a link in a subsequent sage'd post.)
It's only three questions, and should take less than a minute of your time: surveymonkey/r/8LS6FC9
>>5706781
This is dumb. I took it anyway, but people don't transition because of social pressure, they transition because of sex dysphoria
More people would transition if trans people weren't treated like shite tho, yes. Lots of people choose not to transition b/c their family would disown them if they did
Your survey is a little weak, but the discussion can certainly salvage it.
There are some people transitioning because it is more acceptable than being gender non-conforming in the way that they are, and there are some transitioning as an aid to the kind of gender non-conforming they prefer (think the guys on femgen for a readily-observed example).
There are people being scared off from transition by social pressures, yes, and there would be slightly more people transitioning, with many earlier, in a society that didn't place such a huge stigma on it. Homelessness is a heavy price to pay for being wrong about your parents', employer's, or landlord's reaction, and many trans youth have had to pay it.
Has anyone tried estrogen supplements to help their menstrual cycle and/or to make their breasts grow? I've been considering ordering some, but I don't know if they would help.
>>5706292
you won't get bigger tits and you're only going to fuck up your menstruation even more.
>>5706312
I've gone to multiple doctors and all they'll do is put me on birth control, which isn't working. I don't know what else to do.
>>5706327
relax
let it flow
